Unlock hubs in 94 Cherokee
02-25-2005, 04:03 PM
#51
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Re: Unlock hubs in 94 Cherokee
Jeff Strickland wrote:
> "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote ...
>
>>Incorrect. You won't find the vacuum disconnect axle on a 1994 Cherokee.
>>Last model year for that was 1991 for XJ/MJ and 1995 for YJ. The hubs on
>>a 94 Cherokee are permanently connected straight through the axles to
>>the differential.
>
> Just like the TJ?
>
> I thought the Cherokee in '94 would have the same system as the YJ of the
> same year.
Yup, they ditched the problematic disconnect in '92 in the XJ coil link
suspensions. They didn't bother investing the same change for the YJ's
leaf-sprung Dana 30 knowing it was a dead duck soon to be replaced by
the XJ coil link Dana 30 in the TJ.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
> "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote ...
>
>>Incorrect. You won't find the vacuum disconnect axle on a 1994 Cherokee.
>>Last model year for that was 1991 for XJ/MJ and 1995 for YJ. The hubs on
>>a 94 Cherokee are permanently connected straight through the axles to
>>the differential.
>
> Just like the TJ?
>
> I thought the Cherokee in '94 would have the same system as the YJ of the
> same year.
Yup, they ditched the problematic disconnect in '92 in the XJ coil link
suspensions. They didn't bother investing the same change for the YJ's
leaf-sprung Dana 30 knowing it was a dead duck soon to be replaced by
the XJ coil link Dana 30 in the TJ.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
02-25-2005, 04:03 PM
#52
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Re: Unlock hubs in 94 Cherokee
Jeff Strickland wrote:
> "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote ...
>
>>Incorrect. You won't find the vacuum disconnect axle on a 1994 Cherokee.
>>Last model year for that was 1991 for XJ/MJ and 1995 for YJ. The hubs on
>>a 94 Cherokee are permanently connected straight through the axles to
>>the differential.
>
> Just like the TJ?
>
> I thought the Cherokee in '94 would have the same system as the YJ of the
> same year.
Yup, they ditched the problematic disconnect in '92 in the XJ coil link
suspensions. They didn't bother investing the same change for the YJ's
leaf-sprung Dana 30 knowing it was a dead duck soon to be replaced by
the XJ coil link Dana 30 in the TJ.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
> "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote ...
>
>>Incorrect. You won't find the vacuum disconnect axle on a 1994 Cherokee.
>>Last model year for that was 1991 for XJ/MJ and 1995 for YJ. The hubs on
>>a 94 Cherokee are permanently connected straight through the axles to
>>the differential.
>
> Just like the TJ?
>
> I thought the Cherokee in '94 would have the same system as the YJ of the
> same year.
Yup, they ditched the problematic disconnect in '92 in the XJ coil link
suspensions. They didn't bother investing the same change for the YJ's
leaf-sprung Dana 30 knowing it was a dead duck soon to be replaced by
the XJ coil link Dana 30 in the TJ.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
02-25-2005, 04:05 PM
#53
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Re: Unlock hubs in 94 Cherokee
That still has absolutely 'nothing' to do with unlocking the front
hubs!!!!
That is the t-case binding up. It happens on my dana set up too because
of the high traction muds I run.
I thought the real bad set was the 410/411 splits on some of them.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Our Transfer cases are likely to bind coming out of four wheel
> drive on good traction, because your AMC 20 and My nine inch do not
> exactly match ratios with our front ends. Something Mike doesn't
> experience having both front and rear Danas.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > But Mike, he was told to go in reverse to allow the mechanism to unlock. I
> > was thinking he has the system like that in the YJ. It turns out he has the
> > system that is like the TJ.
> >
> > This is not entirely true. Well, it is true in theory. That is there is no
> > requirement, but we all know that the YJ's front axle can balk at unlocking
> > when the tcase lever is moved back to 2WD, the work-around for this
> > balkiness is to back up a few yards.
hubs!!!!
That is the t-case binding up. It happens on my dana set up too because
of the high traction muds I run.
I thought the real bad set was the 410/411 splits on some of them.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Our Transfer cases are likely to bind coming out of four wheel
> drive on good traction, because your AMC 20 and My nine inch do not
> exactly match ratios with our front ends. Something Mike doesn't
> experience having both front and rear Danas.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > But Mike, he was told to go in reverse to allow the mechanism to unlock. I
> > was thinking he has the system like that in the YJ. It turns out he has the
> > system that is like the TJ.
> >
> > This is not entirely true. Well, it is true in theory. That is there is no
> > requirement, but we all know that the YJ's front axle can balk at unlocking
> > when the tcase lever is moved back to 2WD, the work-around for this
> > balkiness is to back up a few yards.
02-25-2005, 04:05 PM
#54
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Re: Unlock hubs in 94 Cherokee
That still has absolutely 'nothing' to do with unlocking the front
hubs!!!!
That is the t-case binding up. It happens on my dana set up too because
of the high traction muds I run.
I thought the real bad set was the 410/411 splits on some of them.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Our Transfer cases are likely to bind coming out of four wheel
> drive on good traction, because your AMC 20 and My nine inch do not
> exactly match ratios with our front ends. Something Mike doesn't
> experience having both front and rear Danas.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > But Mike, he was told to go in reverse to allow the mechanism to unlock. I
> > was thinking he has the system like that in the YJ. It turns out he has the
> > system that is like the TJ.
> >
> > This is not entirely true. Well, it is true in theory. That is there is no
> > requirement, but we all know that the YJ's front axle can balk at unlocking
> > when the tcase lever is moved back to 2WD, the work-around for this
> > balkiness is to back up a few yards.
hubs!!!!
That is the t-case binding up. It happens on my dana set up too because
of the high traction muds I run.
I thought the real bad set was the 410/411 splits on some of them.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Our Transfer cases are likely to bind coming out of four wheel
> drive on good traction, because your AMC 20 and My nine inch do not
> exactly match ratios with our front ends. Something Mike doesn't
> experience having both front and rear Danas.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > But Mike, he was told to go in reverse to allow the mechanism to unlock. I
> > was thinking he has the system like that in the YJ. It turns out he has the
> > system that is like the TJ.
> >
> > This is not entirely true. Well, it is true in theory. That is there is no
> > requirement, but we all know that the YJ's front axle can balk at unlocking
> > when the tcase lever is moved back to 2WD, the work-around for this
> > balkiness is to back up a few yards.
02-25-2005, 04:05 PM
#55
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Re: Unlock hubs in 94 Cherokee
That still has absolutely 'nothing' to do with unlocking the front
hubs!!!!
That is the t-case binding up. It happens on my dana set up too because
of the high traction muds I run.
I thought the real bad set was the 410/411 splits on some of them.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Our Transfer cases are likely to bind coming out of four wheel
> drive on good traction, because your AMC 20 and My nine inch do not
> exactly match ratios with our front ends. Something Mike doesn't
> experience having both front and rear Danas.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > But Mike, he was told to go in reverse to allow the mechanism to unlock. I
> > was thinking he has the system like that in the YJ. It turns out he has the
> > system that is like the TJ.
> >
> > This is not entirely true. Well, it is true in theory. That is there is no
> > requirement, but we all know that the YJ's front axle can balk at unlocking
> > when the tcase lever is moved back to 2WD, the work-around for this
> > balkiness is to back up a few yards.
hubs!!!!
That is the t-case binding up. It happens on my dana set up too because
of the high traction muds I run.
I thought the real bad set was the 410/411 splits on some of them.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Our Transfer cases are likely to bind coming out of four wheel
> drive on good traction, because your AMC 20 and My nine inch do not
> exactly match ratios with our front ends. Something Mike doesn't
> experience having both front and rear Danas.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > But Mike, he was told to go in reverse to allow the mechanism to unlock. I
> > was thinking he has the system like that in the YJ. It turns out he has the
> > system that is like the TJ.
> >
> > This is not entirely true. Well, it is true in theory. That is there is no
> > requirement, but we all know that the YJ's front axle can balk at unlocking
> > when the tcase lever is moved back to 2WD, the work-around for this
> > balkiness is to back up a few yards.
02-25-2005, 04:10 PM
#56
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Re: Unlock hubs in 94 Cherokee
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:421F6844.BCC3559B@sympatico.ca...
>
> > There is no such thing as having to go into reverse to 'unlock' front
> > hubs or axles period! That cannot happen on "ANY" Jeep!
> >
>
> This is not entirely true. Well, it is true in theory. That is there is no
> requirement, but we all know that the YJ's front axle can balk at unlocking
> when the tcase lever is moved back to 2WD, the work-around for this
> balkiness is to back up a few yards.
The best work around it to hit 3000 rpm and let off the gas for maximum
vacuum.
Going in reverse has 0 effect except at the idle point when the vacuum
comes up because the transfer case is already in 2 wheel drive so the
driveshaft is loose already.
Mike
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:421F6844.BCC3559B@sympatico.ca...
>
> > There is no such thing as having to go into reverse to 'unlock' front
> > hubs or axles period! That cannot happen on "ANY" Jeep!
> >
>
> This is not entirely true. Well, it is true in theory. That is there is no
> requirement, but we all know that the YJ's front axle can balk at unlocking
> when the tcase lever is moved back to 2WD, the work-around for this
> balkiness is to back up a few yards.
The best work around it to hit 3000 rpm and let off the gas for maximum
vacuum.
Going in reverse has 0 effect except at the idle point when the vacuum
comes up because the transfer case is already in 2 wheel drive so the
driveshaft is loose already.
Mike
02-25-2005, 04:10 PM
#57
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Re: Unlock hubs in 94 Cherokee
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:421F6844.BCC3559B@sympatico.ca...
>
> > There is no such thing as having to go into reverse to 'unlock' front
> > hubs or axles period! That cannot happen on "ANY" Jeep!
> >
>
> This is not entirely true. Well, it is true in theory. That is there is no
> requirement, but we all know that the YJ's front axle can balk at unlocking
> when the tcase lever is moved back to 2WD, the work-around for this
> balkiness is to back up a few yards.
The best work around it to hit 3000 rpm and let off the gas for maximum
vacuum.
Going in reverse has 0 effect except at the idle point when the vacuum
comes up because the transfer case is already in 2 wheel drive so the
driveshaft is loose already.
Mike
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:421F6844.BCC3559B@sympatico.ca...
>
> > There is no such thing as having to go into reverse to 'unlock' front
> > hubs or axles period! That cannot happen on "ANY" Jeep!
> >
>
> This is not entirely true. Well, it is true in theory. That is there is no
> requirement, but we all know that the YJ's front axle can balk at unlocking
> when the tcase lever is moved back to 2WD, the work-around for this
> balkiness is to back up a few yards.
The best work around it to hit 3000 rpm and let off the gas for maximum
vacuum.
Going in reverse has 0 effect except at the idle point when the vacuum
comes up because the transfer case is already in 2 wheel drive so the
driveshaft is loose already.
Mike
02-25-2005, 04:10 PM
#58
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Re: Unlock hubs in 94 Cherokee
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:421F6844.BCC3559B@sympatico.ca...
>
> > There is no such thing as having to go into reverse to 'unlock' front
> > hubs or axles period! That cannot happen on "ANY" Jeep!
> >
>
> This is not entirely true. Well, it is true in theory. That is there is no
> requirement, but we all know that the YJ's front axle can balk at unlocking
> when the tcase lever is moved back to 2WD, the work-around for this
> balkiness is to back up a few yards.
The best work around it to hit 3000 rpm and let off the gas for maximum
vacuum.
Going in reverse has 0 effect except at the idle point when the vacuum
comes up because the transfer case is already in 2 wheel drive so the
driveshaft is loose already.
Mike
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:421F6844.BCC3559B@sympatico.ca...
>
> > There is no such thing as having to go into reverse to 'unlock' front
> > hubs or axles period! That cannot happen on "ANY" Jeep!
> >
>
> This is not entirely true. Well, it is true in theory. That is there is no
> requirement, but we all know that the YJ's front axle can balk at unlocking
> when the tcase lever is moved back to 2WD, the work-around for this
> balkiness is to back up a few yards.
The best work around it to hit 3000 rpm and let off the gas for maximum
vacuum.
Going in reverse has 0 effect except at the idle point when the vacuum
comes up because the transfer case is already in 2 wheel drive so the
driveshaft is loose already.
Mike
02-25-2005, 04:33 PM
#59
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Re: Unlock hubs in 94 Cherokee
Yup, that's it and that's enough not to be able to release four
drive in just a couple of feet after getting up on the road.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> That still has absolutely 'nothing' to do with unlocking the front
> hubs!!!!
>
> That is the t-case binding up. It happens on my dana set up too because
> of the high traction muds I run.
>
> I thought the real bad set was the 410/411 splits on some of them.
>
> Mike
drive in just a couple of feet after getting up on the road.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> That still has absolutely 'nothing' to do with unlocking the front
> hubs!!!!
>
> That is the t-case binding up. It happens on my dana set up too because
> of the high traction muds I run.
>
> I thought the real bad set was the 410/411 splits on some of them.
>
> Mike
02-25-2005, 04:33 PM
#60
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Re: Unlock hubs in 94 Cherokee
Yup, that's it and that's enough not to be able to release four
drive in just a couple of feet after getting up on the road.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> That still has absolutely 'nothing' to do with unlocking the front
> hubs!!!!
>
> That is the t-case binding up. It happens on my dana set up too because
> of the high traction muds I run.
>
> I thought the real bad set was the 410/411 splits on some of them.
>
> Mike
drive in just a couple of feet after getting up on the road.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> That still has absolutely 'nothing' to do with unlocking the front
> hubs!!!!
>
> That is the t-case binding up. It happens on my dana set up too because
> of the high traction muds I run.
>
> I thought the real bad set was the 410/411 splits on some of them.
>
> Mike