Unlimited with Automatic Only???
04-07-2004, 03:57 PM
#41
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Re: Unlimited with Automatic Only???
"cactuscowboy" <cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote in message
:
: The majority of people who buy Jeeps would be far better served with a
: minivan. I can't tell you how tiring it is to sell SUV's to poseurs who
: insist on wasting money on a 4WD vehicle that will rarely if ever get
: shifted out of 2WD High. It's all about impressing the neighbors....
"Look
: at me, I'm a badass in a tough SUV".
:
That has to be the dumbest statement I've heard in a long time. The next
time a perspective customer comes in looking at a GC because they go camping
twice a year and they want a towing package because they want to take stuff
to the dump from time to time - tell them they would be better off with a
used Windstar and see how long they stick around. For that matter, see how
long you stick around.
May I remind you that if Jeep only sold to people that promised to utilize
the vehicle to its utmost potential, the brand would cease to exist. To
avoid any further sleepless nights be sure to screen Viper owners that won't
commit to 4.5 second 0-60 launches, 3/4 ton Ram buyers hauling yard waste
well under 500 lbs, mini-van buyers with only one child and the worst
offenders of all - people ordering two-tone paint when one colour would
suffice...lunatics!
Let us know when you have returned all your commissions back to your
employer from sales to poseurs.
-Brian
:
: The majority of people who buy Jeeps would be far better served with a
: minivan. I can't tell you how tiring it is to sell SUV's to poseurs who
: insist on wasting money on a 4WD vehicle that will rarely if ever get
: shifted out of 2WD High. It's all about impressing the neighbors....
"Look
: at me, I'm a badass in a tough SUV".
:
That has to be the dumbest statement I've heard in a long time. The next
time a perspective customer comes in looking at a GC because they go camping
twice a year and they want a towing package because they want to take stuff
to the dump from time to time - tell them they would be better off with a
used Windstar and see how long they stick around. For that matter, see how
long you stick around.
May I remind you that if Jeep only sold to people that promised to utilize
the vehicle to its utmost potential, the brand would cease to exist. To
avoid any further sleepless nights be sure to screen Viper owners that won't
commit to 4.5 second 0-60 launches, 3/4 ton Ram buyers hauling yard waste
well under 500 lbs, mini-van buyers with only one child and the worst
offenders of all - people ordering two-tone paint when one colour would
suffice...lunatics!
Let us know when you have returned all your commissions back to your
employer from sales to poseurs.
-Brian
04-07-2004, 05:33 PM
#42
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Posts: n/a
Re: Unlimited with Automatic Only???
I understand what you are saying, but it is nothing more than a stretched
TJ, and TJs come with manuals. I get the whole Marketing Thing, it just
didn't occur to me that this would happen. AT least the other examples you
cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it is
just a new configuration of an existing model.
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
news:20040406225718.08081.00000290@mb-m18.aol.com...
> In article <1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR"
<beerman@yahoo.com>
> writes:
>
> >I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy took
her
> >for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
> >available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
>
> Similar to the introduction of the Liberty, and further back, the Grand
> Cherokee. Even though the base model (and I think the mid model as well)
had a
> manual tranny standard, very few if any were made in the first few years
> because D-C felt the autos would appeal to a wider audience. In the case
of the
> Grand Cherokee, so few were ordered with the manual that it was dropped
after a
> short time.
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> "We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
>
>
>
>
TJ, and TJs come with manuals. I get the whole Marketing Thing, it just
didn't occur to me that this would happen. AT least the other examples you
cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it is
just a new configuration of an existing model.
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
news:20040406225718.08081.00000290@mb-m18.aol.com...
> In article <1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR"
<beerman@yahoo.com>
> writes:
>
> >I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy took
her
> >for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
> >available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
>
> Similar to the introduction of the Liberty, and further back, the Grand
> Cherokee. Even though the base model (and I think the mid model as well)
had a
> manual tranny standard, very few if any were made in the first few years
> because D-C felt the autos would appeal to a wider audience. In the case
of the
> Grand Cherokee, so few were ordered with the manual that it was dropped
after a
> short time.
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> "We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
>
>
>
>
04-07-2004, 05:33 PM
#43
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Unlimited with Automatic Only???
I understand what you are saying, but it is nothing more than a stretched
TJ, and TJs come with manuals. I get the whole Marketing Thing, it just
didn't occur to me that this would happen. AT least the other examples you
cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it is
just a new configuration of an existing model.
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
news:20040406225718.08081.00000290@mb-m18.aol.com...
> In article <1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR"
<beerman@yahoo.com>
> writes:
>
> >I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy took
her
> >for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
> >available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
>
> Similar to the introduction of the Liberty, and further back, the Grand
> Cherokee. Even though the base model (and I think the mid model as well)
had a
> manual tranny standard, very few if any were made in the first few years
> because D-C felt the autos would appeal to a wider audience. In the case
of the
> Grand Cherokee, so few were ordered with the manual that it was dropped
after a
> short time.
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> "We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
>
>
>
>
TJ, and TJs come with manuals. I get the whole Marketing Thing, it just
didn't occur to me that this would happen. AT least the other examples you
cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it is
just a new configuration of an existing model.
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
news:20040406225718.08081.00000290@mb-m18.aol.com...
> In article <1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR"
<beerman@yahoo.com>
> writes:
>
> >I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy took
her
> >for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
> >available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
>
> Similar to the introduction of the Liberty, and further back, the Grand
> Cherokee. Even though the base model (and I think the mid model as well)
had a
> manual tranny standard, very few if any were made in the first few years
> because D-C felt the autos would appeal to a wider audience. In the case
of the
> Grand Cherokee, so few were ordered with the manual that it was dropped
after a
> short time.
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> "We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
>
>
>
>
04-07-2004, 05:33 PM
#44
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Unlimited with Automatic Only???
I understand what you are saying, but it is nothing more than a stretched
TJ, and TJs come with manuals. I get the whole Marketing Thing, it just
didn't occur to me that this would happen. AT least the other examples you
cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it is
just a new configuration of an existing model.
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
news:20040406225718.08081.00000290@mb-m18.aol.com...
> In article <1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR"
<beerman@yahoo.com>
> writes:
>
> >I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy took
her
> >for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
> >available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
>
> Similar to the introduction of the Liberty, and further back, the Grand
> Cherokee. Even though the base model (and I think the mid model as well)
had a
> manual tranny standard, very few if any were made in the first few years
> because D-C felt the autos would appeal to a wider audience. In the case
of the
> Grand Cherokee, so few were ordered with the manual that it was dropped
after a
> short time.
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> "We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
>
>
>
>
TJ, and TJs come with manuals. I get the whole Marketing Thing, it just
didn't occur to me that this would happen. AT least the other examples you
cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it is
just a new configuration of an existing model.
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
news:20040406225718.08081.00000290@mb-m18.aol.com...
> In article <1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR"
<beerman@yahoo.com>
> writes:
>
> >I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy took
her
> >for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
> >available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
>
> Similar to the introduction of the Liberty, and further back, the Grand
> Cherokee. Even though the base model (and I think the mid model as well)
had a
> manual tranny standard, very few if any were made in the first few years
> because D-C felt the autos would appeal to a wider audience. In the case
of the
> Grand Cherokee, so few were ordered with the manual that it was dropped
after a
> short time.
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> "We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
>
>
>
>
04-07-2004, 05:33 PM
#45
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Unlimited with Automatic Only???
I understand what you are saying, but it is nothing more than a stretched
TJ, and TJs come with manuals. I get the whole Marketing Thing, it just
didn't occur to me that this would happen. AT least the other examples you
cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it is
just a new configuration of an existing model.
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
news:20040406225718.08081.00000290@mb-m18.aol.com...
> In article <1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR"
<beerman@yahoo.com>
> writes:
>
> >I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy took
her
> >for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
> >available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
>
> Similar to the introduction of the Liberty, and further back, the Grand
> Cherokee. Even though the base model (and I think the mid model as well)
had a
> manual tranny standard, very few if any were made in the first few years
> because D-C felt the autos would appeal to a wider audience. In the case
of the
> Grand Cherokee, so few were ordered with the manual that it was dropped
after a
> short time.
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> "We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
>
>
>
>
TJ, and TJs come with manuals. I get the whole Marketing Thing, it just
didn't occur to me that this would happen. AT least the other examples you
cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it is
just a new configuration of an existing model.
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
news:20040406225718.08081.00000290@mb-m18.aol.com...
> In article <1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR"
<beerman@yahoo.com>
> writes:
>
> >I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy took
her
> >for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
> >available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
>
> Similar to the introduction of the Liberty, and further back, the Grand
> Cherokee. Even though the base model (and I think the mid model as well)
had a
> manual tranny standard, very few if any were made in the first few years
> because D-C felt the autos would appeal to a wider audience. In the case
of the
> Grand Cherokee, so few were ordered with the manual that it was dropped
after a
> short time.
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> "We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
>
>
>
>
04-07-2004, 05:39 PM
#46
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Unlimited with Automatic Only???
I think they will find that they have a larger customer base desiring a
standard trans in the Unltd. than they anticipate. I could see owning a
std. Unltd. far more than a std. Grand Cherokee.
CRWLR wrote:
> I understand what you are saying, but it is nothing more than a stretched
> TJ, and TJs come with manuals. I get the whole Marketing Thing, it just
> didn't occur to me that this would happen. AT least the other examples you
> cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it is
> just a new configuration of an existing model.
>
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
> news:20040406225718.08081.00000290@mb-m18.aol.com...
>
>>In article <1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR"
>
> <beerman@yahoo.com>
>
>>writes:
>>
>>
>>>I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy took
>
> her
>
>>>for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
>>>available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
>>
>>Similar to the introduction of the Liberty, and further back, the Grand
>>Cherokee. Even though the base model (and I think the mid model as well)
>
> had a
>
>>manual tranny standard, very few if any were made in the first few years
>>because D-C felt the autos would appeal to a wider audience. In the case
>
> of the
>
>>Grand Cherokee, so few were ordered with the manual that it was dropped
>
> after a
>
>>short time.
>>* * *
>>Matt Macchiarolo
>>www.townpeddler.com
>>www.wolverine4wd.org
>>"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
standard trans in the Unltd. than they anticipate. I could see owning a
std. Unltd. far more than a std. Grand Cherokee.
CRWLR wrote:
> I understand what you are saying, but it is nothing more than a stretched
> TJ, and TJs come with manuals. I get the whole Marketing Thing, it just
> didn't occur to me that this would happen. AT least the other examples you
> cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it is
> just a new configuration of an existing model.
>
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
> news:20040406225718.08081.00000290@mb-m18.aol.com...
>
>>In article <1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR"
>
> <beerman@yahoo.com>
>
>>writes:
>>
>>
>>>I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy took
>
> her
>
>>>for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
>>>available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
>>
>>Similar to the introduction of the Liberty, and further back, the Grand
>>Cherokee. Even though the base model (and I think the mid model as well)
>
> had a
>
>>manual tranny standard, very few if any were made in the first few years
>>because D-C felt the autos would appeal to a wider audience. In the case
>
> of the
>
>>Grand Cherokee, so few were ordered with the manual that it was dropped
>
> after a
>
>>short time.
>>* * *
>>Matt Macchiarolo
>>www.townpeddler.com
>>www.wolverine4wd.org
>>"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
04-07-2004, 05:39 PM
#47
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Unlimited with Automatic Only???
I think they will find that they have a larger customer base desiring a
standard trans in the Unltd. than they anticipate. I could see owning a
std. Unltd. far more than a std. Grand Cherokee.
CRWLR wrote:
> I understand what you are saying, but it is nothing more than a stretched
> TJ, and TJs come with manuals. I get the whole Marketing Thing, it just
> didn't occur to me that this would happen. AT least the other examples you
> cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it is
> just a new configuration of an existing model.
>
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
> news:20040406225718.08081.00000290@mb-m18.aol.com...
>
>>In article <1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR"
>
> <beerman@yahoo.com>
>
>>writes:
>>
>>
>>>I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy took
>
> her
>
>>>for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
>>>available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
>>
>>Similar to the introduction of the Liberty, and further back, the Grand
>>Cherokee. Even though the base model (and I think the mid model as well)
>
> had a
>
>>manual tranny standard, very few if any were made in the first few years
>>because D-C felt the autos would appeal to a wider audience. In the case
>
> of the
>
>>Grand Cherokee, so few were ordered with the manual that it was dropped
>
> after a
>
>>short time.
>>* * *
>>Matt Macchiarolo
>>www.townpeddler.com
>>www.wolverine4wd.org
>>"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
standard trans in the Unltd. than they anticipate. I could see owning a
std. Unltd. far more than a std. Grand Cherokee.
CRWLR wrote:
> I understand what you are saying, but it is nothing more than a stretched
> TJ, and TJs come with manuals. I get the whole Marketing Thing, it just
> didn't occur to me that this would happen. AT least the other examples you
> cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it is
> just a new configuration of an existing model.
>
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
> news:20040406225718.08081.00000290@mb-m18.aol.com...
>
>>In article <1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR"
>
> <beerman@yahoo.com>
>
>>writes:
>>
>>
>>>I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy took
>
> her
>
>>>for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
>>>available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
>>
>>Similar to the introduction of the Liberty, and further back, the Grand
>>Cherokee. Even though the base model (and I think the mid model as well)
>
> had a
>
>>manual tranny standard, very few if any were made in the first few years
>>because D-C felt the autos would appeal to a wider audience. In the case
>
> of the
>
>>Grand Cherokee, so few were ordered with the manual that it was dropped
>
> after a
>
>>short time.
>>* * *
>>Matt Macchiarolo
>>www.townpeddler.com
>>www.wolverine4wd.org
>>"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
04-07-2004, 05:39 PM
#48
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Unlimited with Automatic Only???
I think they will find that they have a larger customer base desiring a
standard trans in the Unltd. than they anticipate. I could see owning a
std. Unltd. far more than a std. Grand Cherokee.
CRWLR wrote:
> I understand what you are saying, but it is nothing more than a stretched
> TJ, and TJs come with manuals. I get the whole Marketing Thing, it just
> didn't occur to me that this would happen. AT least the other examples you
> cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it is
> just a new configuration of an existing model.
>
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
> news:20040406225718.08081.00000290@mb-m18.aol.com...
>
>>In article <1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR"
>
> <beerman@yahoo.com>
>
>>writes:
>>
>>
>>>I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy took
>
> her
>
>>>for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
>>>available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
>>
>>Similar to the introduction of the Liberty, and further back, the Grand
>>Cherokee. Even though the base model (and I think the mid model as well)
>
> had a
>
>>manual tranny standard, very few if any were made in the first few years
>>because D-C felt the autos would appeal to a wider audience. In the case
>
> of the
>
>>Grand Cherokee, so few were ordered with the manual that it was dropped
>
> after a
>
>>short time.
>>* * *
>>Matt Macchiarolo
>>www.townpeddler.com
>>www.wolverine4wd.org
>>"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
standard trans in the Unltd. than they anticipate. I could see owning a
std. Unltd. far more than a std. Grand Cherokee.
CRWLR wrote:
> I understand what you are saying, but it is nothing more than a stretched
> TJ, and TJs come with manuals. I get the whole Marketing Thing, it just
> didn't occur to me that this would happen. AT least the other examples you
> cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it is
> just a new configuration of an existing model.
>
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
> news:20040406225718.08081.00000290@mb-m18.aol.com...
>
>>In article <1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR"
>
> <beerman@yahoo.com>
>
>>writes:
>>
>>
>>>I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy took
>
> her
>
>>>for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
>>>available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
>>
>>Similar to the introduction of the Liberty, and further back, the Grand
>>Cherokee. Even though the base model (and I think the mid model as well)
>
> had a
>
>>manual tranny standard, very few if any were made in the first few years
>>because D-C felt the autos would appeal to a wider audience. In the case
>
> of the
>
>>Grand Cherokee, so few were ordered with the manual that it was dropped
>
> after a
>
>>short time.
>>* * *
>>Matt Macchiarolo
>>www.townpeddler.com
>>www.wolverine4wd.org
>>"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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04-07-2004, 05:39 PM
#49
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Unlimited with Automatic Only???
I think they will find that they have a larger customer base desiring a
standard trans in the Unltd. than they anticipate. I could see owning a
std. Unltd. far more than a std. Grand Cherokee.
CRWLR wrote:
> I understand what you are saying, but it is nothing more than a stretched
> TJ, and TJs come with manuals. I get the whole Marketing Thing, it just
> didn't occur to me that this would happen. AT least the other examples you
> cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it is
> just a new configuration of an existing model.
>
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
> news:20040406225718.08081.00000290@mb-m18.aol.com...
>
>>In article <1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR"
>
> <beerman@yahoo.com>
>
>>writes:
>>
>>
>>>I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy took
>
> her
>
>>>for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
>>>available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
>>
>>Similar to the introduction of the Liberty, and further back, the Grand
>>Cherokee. Even though the base model (and I think the mid model as well)
>
> had a
>
>>manual tranny standard, very few if any were made in the first few years
>>because D-C felt the autos would appeal to a wider audience. In the case
>
> of the
>
>>Grand Cherokee, so few were ordered with the manual that it was dropped
>
> after a
>
>>short time.
>>* * *
>>Matt Macchiarolo
>>www.townpeddler.com
>>www.wolverine4wd.org
>>"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
standard trans in the Unltd. than they anticipate. I could see owning a
std. Unltd. far more than a std. Grand Cherokee.
CRWLR wrote:
> I understand what you are saying, but it is nothing more than a stretched
> TJ, and TJs come with manuals. I get the whole Marketing Thing, it just
> didn't occur to me that this would happen. AT least the other examples you
> cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it is
> just a new configuration of an existing model.
>
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
> news:20040406225718.08081.00000290@mb-m18.aol.com...
>
>>In article <1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR"
>
> <beerman@yahoo.com>
>
>>writes:
>>
>>
>>>I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy took
>
> her
>
>>>for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
>>>available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
>>
>>Similar to the introduction of the Liberty, and further back, the Grand
>>Cherokee. Even though the base model (and I think the mid model as well)
>
> had a
>
>>manual tranny standard, very few if any were made in the first few years
>>because D-C felt the autos would appeal to a wider audience. In the case
>
> of the
>
>>Grand Cherokee, so few were ordered with the manual that it was dropped
>
> after a
>
>>short time.
>>* * *
>>Matt Macchiarolo
>>www.townpeddler.com
>>www.wolverine4wd.org
>>"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
04-07-2004, 08:13 PM
#50
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Unlimited with Automatic Only???
My point exactly.
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:Ky_cc.5981$Ro1.2396@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> I think they will find that they have a larger customer base desiring a
> standard trans in the Unltd. than they anticipate. I could see owning a
> std. Unltd. far more than a std. Grand Cherokee.
>
> CRWLR wrote:
>
> > I understand what you are saying, but it is nothing more than a
stretched
> > TJ, and TJs come with manuals. I get the whole Marketing Thing, it just
> > didn't occur to me that this would happen. AT least the other examples
you
> > cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it
is
> > just a new configuration of an existing model.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
> > news:20040406225718.08081.00000290@mb-m18.aol.com...
> >
> >>In article <1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR"
> >
> > <beerman@yahoo.com>
> >
> >>writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy
took
> >
> > her
> >
> >>>for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
> >>>available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
> >>
> >>Similar to the introduction of the Liberty, and further back, the Grand
> >>Cherokee. Even though the base model (and I think the mid model as well)
> >
> > had a
> >
> >>manual tranny standard, very few if any were made in the first few years
> >>because D-C felt the autos would appeal to a wider audience. In the case
> >
> > of the
> >
> >>Grand Cherokee, so few were ordered with the manual that it was dropped
> >
> > after a
> >
> >>short time.
> >>* * *
> >>Matt Macchiarolo
> >>www.townpeddler.com
> >>www.wolverine4wd.org
> >>"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:Ky_cc.5981$Ro1.2396@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> I think they will find that they have a larger customer base desiring a
> standard trans in the Unltd. than they anticipate. I could see owning a
> std. Unltd. far more than a std. Grand Cherokee.
>
> CRWLR wrote:
>
> > I understand what you are saying, but it is nothing more than a
stretched
> > TJ, and TJs come with manuals. I get the whole Marketing Thing, it just
> > didn't occur to me that this would happen. AT least the other examples
you
> > cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it
is
> > just a new configuration of an existing model.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
> > news:20040406225718.08081.00000290@mb-m18.aol.com...
> >
> >>In article <1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR"
> >
> > <beerman@yahoo.com>
> >
> >>writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy
took
> >
> > her
> >
> >>>for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
> >>>available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
> >>
> >>Similar to the introduction of the Liberty, and further back, the Grand
> >>Cherokee. Even though the base model (and I think the mid model as well)
> >
> > had a
> >
> >>manual tranny standard, very few if any were made in the first few years
> >>because D-C felt the autos would appeal to a wider audience. In the case
> >
> > of the
> >
> >>Grand Cherokee, so few were ordered with the manual that it was dropped
> >
> > after a
> >
> >>short time.
> >>* * *
> >>Matt Macchiarolo
> >>www.townpeddler.com
> >>www.wolverine4wd.org
> >>"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
