Unlimited with Automatic Only???
04-06-2004, 11:05 PM
#21
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Re: Unlimited with Automatic Only???
The type of people that would order a Libby or Cherokeette wouldn't
know how to drive a manual transmission.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Similar to the introduction of the Liberty, and further back, the Grand
> Cherokee. Even though the base model (and I think the mid model as well) had a
> manual tranny standard, very few if any were made in the first few years
> because D-C felt the autos would appeal to a wider audience. In the case of the
> Grand Cherokee, so few were ordered with the manual that it was dropped after a
> short time.
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> "We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
know how to drive a manual transmission.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Similar to the introduction of the Liberty, and further back, the Grand
> Cherokee. Even though the base model (and I think the mid model as well) had a
> manual tranny standard, very few if any were made in the first few years
> because D-C felt the autos would appeal to a wider audience. In the case of the
> Grand Cherokee, so few were ordered with the manual that it was dropped after a
> short time.
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> "We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
04-07-2004, 12:06 AM
#22
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Re: Unlimited with Automatic Only???
Right, auto only in the Unlimited. I sell Ford/Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep and I'm
totally disgusted with the poor or nonexistant availability of manual
transmissions in general, e.g. can't get a MT in the new '04 F150 or Grand
Cherokee. I wouldn't own a vehicle with an automatic. I sold a new Mustang
GT coupe (5 speed) yesterday. Thank God for customers who insist on manual
transmissions. Maybe if enough customers demanded it, DC will build an
Unlimited Rubicon with manual transmission as standard equipment.
The majority of people who buy Jeeps would be far better served with a
minivan. I can't tell you how tiring it is to sell SUV's to poseurs who
insist on wasting money on a 4WD vehicle that will rarely if ever get
shifted out of 2WD High. It's all about impressing the neighbors.... "Look
at me, I'm a badass in a tough SUV".
--
Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O
"Ichabod Shagnasti" <murfysflaw@nospamhere.com> wrote in message
news:1MJcc.5848$DY6.5771@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> That's what I was told as well... I've had both now (5 sp & auto), and
> would likely purchase the auto again given the opportunity, particularly
> with the 4 speed. I do know some prefer the standards though. I suspect
> the marketing guys believe most people buying the unlimited will be using
it
> as more of a traditional SUV and that a 5 sp wouldn't sell as well. Seems
> they could at least make it optional though.
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com...
> > I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy took
> her
> > for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
> > available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
> >
> >
>
>
totally disgusted with the poor or nonexistant availability of manual
transmissions in general, e.g. can't get a MT in the new '04 F150 or Grand
Cherokee. I wouldn't own a vehicle with an automatic. I sold a new Mustang
GT coupe (5 speed) yesterday. Thank God for customers who insist on manual
transmissions. Maybe if enough customers demanded it, DC will build an
Unlimited Rubicon with manual transmission as standard equipment.
The majority of people who buy Jeeps would be far better served with a
minivan. I can't tell you how tiring it is to sell SUV's to poseurs who
insist on wasting money on a 4WD vehicle that will rarely if ever get
shifted out of 2WD High. It's all about impressing the neighbors.... "Look
at me, I'm a badass in a tough SUV".
--
Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O
"Ichabod Shagnasti" <murfysflaw@nospamhere.com> wrote in message
news:1MJcc.5848$DY6.5771@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> That's what I was told as well... I've had both now (5 sp & auto), and
> would likely purchase the auto again given the opportunity, particularly
> with the 4 speed. I do know some prefer the standards though. I suspect
> the marketing guys believe most people buying the unlimited will be using
it
> as more of a traditional SUV and that a 5 sp wouldn't sell as well. Seems
> they could at least make it optional though.
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com...
> > I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy took
> her
> > for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
> > available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
> >
> >
>
>
04-07-2004, 12:06 AM
#23
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Re: Unlimited with Automatic Only???
Right, auto only in the Unlimited. I sell Ford/Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep and I'm
totally disgusted with the poor or nonexistant availability of manual
transmissions in general, e.g. can't get a MT in the new '04 F150 or Grand
Cherokee. I wouldn't own a vehicle with an automatic. I sold a new Mustang
GT coupe (5 speed) yesterday. Thank God for customers who insist on manual
transmissions. Maybe if enough customers demanded it, DC will build an
Unlimited Rubicon with manual transmission as standard equipment.
The majority of people who buy Jeeps would be far better served with a
minivan. I can't tell you how tiring it is to sell SUV's to poseurs who
insist on wasting money on a 4WD vehicle that will rarely if ever get
shifted out of 2WD High. It's all about impressing the neighbors.... "Look
at me, I'm a badass in a tough SUV".
--
Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O
"Ichabod Shagnasti" <murfysflaw@nospamhere.com> wrote in message
news:1MJcc.5848$DY6.5771@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> That's what I was told as well... I've had both now (5 sp & auto), and
> would likely purchase the auto again given the opportunity, particularly
> with the 4 speed. I do know some prefer the standards though. I suspect
> the marketing guys believe most people buying the unlimited will be using
it
> as more of a traditional SUV and that a 5 sp wouldn't sell as well. Seems
> they could at least make it optional though.
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com...
> > I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy took
> her
> > for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
> > available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
> >
> >
>
>
totally disgusted with the poor or nonexistant availability of manual
transmissions in general, e.g. can't get a MT in the new '04 F150 or Grand
Cherokee. I wouldn't own a vehicle with an automatic. I sold a new Mustang
GT coupe (5 speed) yesterday. Thank God for customers who insist on manual
transmissions. Maybe if enough customers demanded it, DC will build an
Unlimited Rubicon with manual transmission as standard equipment.
The majority of people who buy Jeeps would be far better served with a
minivan. I can't tell you how tiring it is to sell SUV's to poseurs who
insist on wasting money on a 4WD vehicle that will rarely if ever get
shifted out of 2WD High. It's all about impressing the neighbors.... "Look
at me, I'm a badass in a tough SUV".
--
Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O
"Ichabod Shagnasti" <murfysflaw@nospamhere.com> wrote in message
news:1MJcc.5848$DY6.5771@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> That's what I was told as well... I've had both now (5 sp & auto), and
> would likely purchase the auto again given the opportunity, particularly
> with the 4 speed. I do know some prefer the standards though. I suspect
> the marketing guys believe most people buying the unlimited will be using
it
> as more of a traditional SUV and that a 5 sp wouldn't sell as well. Seems
> they could at least make it optional though.
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com...
> > I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy took
> her
> > for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
> > available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
> >
> >
>
>
04-07-2004, 12:06 AM
#24
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Re: Unlimited with Automatic Only???
Right, auto only in the Unlimited. I sell Ford/Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep and I'm
totally disgusted with the poor or nonexistant availability of manual
transmissions in general, e.g. can't get a MT in the new '04 F150 or Grand
Cherokee. I wouldn't own a vehicle with an automatic. I sold a new Mustang
GT coupe (5 speed) yesterday. Thank God for customers who insist on manual
transmissions. Maybe if enough customers demanded it, DC will build an
Unlimited Rubicon with manual transmission as standard equipment.
The majority of people who buy Jeeps would be far better served with a
minivan. I can't tell you how tiring it is to sell SUV's to poseurs who
insist on wasting money on a 4WD vehicle that will rarely if ever get
shifted out of 2WD High. It's all about impressing the neighbors.... "Look
at me, I'm a badass in a tough SUV".
--
Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O
"Ichabod Shagnasti" <murfysflaw@nospamhere.com> wrote in message
news:1MJcc.5848$DY6.5771@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> That's what I was told as well... I've had both now (5 sp & auto), and
> would likely purchase the auto again given the opportunity, particularly
> with the 4 speed. I do know some prefer the standards though. I suspect
> the marketing guys believe most people buying the unlimited will be using
it
> as more of a traditional SUV and that a 5 sp wouldn't sell as well. Seems
> they could at least make it optional though.
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com...
> > I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy took
> her
> > for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
> > available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
> >
> >
>
>
totally disgusted with the poor or nonexistant availability of manual
transmissions in general, e.g. can't get a MT in the new '04 F150 or Grand
Cherokee. I wouldn't own a vehicle with an automatic. I sold a new Mustang
GT coupe (5 speed) yesterday. Thank God for customers who insist on manual
transmissions. Maybe if enough customers demanded it, DC will build an
Unlimited Rubicon with manual transmission as standard equipment.
The majority of people who buy Jeeps would be far better served with a
minivan. I can't tell you how tiring it is to sell SUV's to poseurs who
insist on wasting money on a 4WD vehicle that will rarely if ever get
shifted out of 2WD High. It's all about impressing the neighbors.... "Look
at me, I'm a badass in a tough SUV".
--
Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O
"Ichabod Shagnasti" <murfysflaw@nospamhere.com> wrote in message
news:1MJcc.5848$DY6.5771@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> That's what I was told as well... I've had both now (5 sp & auto), and
> would likely purchase the auto again given the opportunity, particularly
> with the 4 speed. I do know some prefer the standards though. I suspect
> the marketing guys believe most people buying the unlimited will be using
it
> as more of a traditional SUV and that a 5 sp wouldn't sell as well. Seems
> they could at least make it optional though.
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com...
> > I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy took
> her
> > for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
> > available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
> >
> >
>
>
04-07-2004, 12:06 AM
#25
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Re: Unlimited with Automatic Only???
Right, auto only in the Unlimited. I sell Ford/Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep and I'm
totally disgusted with the poor or nonexistant availability of manual
transmissions in general, e.g. can't get a MT in the new '04 F150 or Grand
Cherokee. I wouldn't own a vehicle with an automatic. I sold a new Mustang
GT coupe (5 speed) yesterday. Thank God for customers who insist on manual
transmissions. Maybe if enough customers demanded it, DC will build an
Unlimited Rubicon with manual transmission as standard equipment.
The majority of people who buy Jeeps would be far better served with a
minivan. I can't tell you how tiring it is to sell SUV's to poseurs who
insist on wasting money on a 4WD vehicle that will rarely if ever get
shifted out of 2WD High. It's all about impressing the neighbors.... "Look
at me, I'm a badass in a tough SUV".
--
Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O
"Ichabod Shagnasti" <murfysflaw@nospamhere.com> wrote in message
news:1MJcc.5848$DY6.5771@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> That's what I was told as well... I've had both now (5 sp & auto), and
> would likely purchase the auto again given the opportunity, particularly
> with the 4 speed. I do know some prefer the standards though. I suspect
> the marketing guys believe most people buying the unlimited will be using
it
> as more of a traditional SUV and that a 5 sp wouldn't sell as well. Seems
> they could at least make it optional though.
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com...
> > I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy took
> her
> > for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
> > available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
> >
> >
>
>
totally disgusted with the poor or nonexistant availability of manual
transmissions in general, e.g. can't get a MT in the new '04 F150 or Grand
Cherokee. I wouldn't own a vehicle with an automatic. I sold a new Mustang
GT coupe (5 speed) yesterday. Thank God for customers who insist on manual
transmissions. Maybe if enough customers demanded it, DC will build an
Unlimited Rubicon with manual transmission as standard equipment.
The majority of people who buy Jeeps would be far better served with a
minivan. I can't tell you how tiring it is to sell SUV's to poseurs who
insist on wasting money on a 4WD vehicle that will rarely if ever get
shifted out of 2WD High. It's all about impressing the neighbors.... "Look
at me, I'm a badass in a tough SUV".
--
Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O
"Ichabod Shagnasti" <murfysflaw@nospamhere.com> wrote in message
news:1MJcc.5848$DY6.5771@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> That's what I was told as well... I've had both now (5 sp & auto), and
> would likely purchase the auto again given the opportunity, particularly
> with the 4 speed. I do know some prefer the standards though. I suspect
> the marketing guys believe most people buying the unlimited will be using
it
> as more of a traditional SUV and that a 5 sp wouldn't sell as well. Seems
> they could at least make it optional though.
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com...
> > I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy took
> her
> > for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
> > available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
> >
> >
>
>
04-07-2004, 04:18 AM
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Re: Unlimited with Automatic Only???
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40736FF0.159078F6@***.net...
: The type of people that would order a Libby or Cherokeette wouldn't
: know how to drive a manual transmission.
Open a window Bill, you need some fresh air. I do enough shifting at work, I
don't need to bring my work home with me.
Apart from the 1-2, D, OD dilemma with the AW4 I much prefer the auto.. on
road and off. I think I will be doing the TCM mod this summer.
-Brian
news:40736FF0.159078F6@***.net...
: The type of people that would order a Libby or Cherokeette wouldn't
: know how to drive a manual transmission.
Open a window Bill, you need some fresh air. I do enough shifting at work, I
don't need to bring my work home with me.
Apart from the 1-2, D, OD dilemma with the AW4 I much prefer the auto.. on
road and off. I think I will be doing the TCM mod this summer.
-Brian
04-07-2004, 04:18 AM
#27
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Re: Unlimited with Automatic Only???
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40736FF0.159078F6@***.net...
: The type of people that would order a Libby or Cherokeette wouldn't
: know how to drive a manual transmission.
Open a window Bill, you need some fresh air. I do enough shifting at work, I
don't need to bring my work home with me.
Apart from the 1-2, D, OD dilemma with the AW4 I much prefer the auto.. on
road and off. I think I will be doing the TCM mod this summer.
-Brian
news:40736FF0.159078F6@***.net...
: The type of people that would order a Libby or Cherokeette wouldn't
: know how to drive a manual transmission.
Open a window Bill, you need some fresh air. I do enough shifting at work, I
don't need to bring my work home with me.
Apart from the 1-2, D, OD dilemma with the AW4 I much prefer the auto.. on
road and off. I think I will be doing the TCM mod this summer.
-Brian
04-07-2004, 04:18 AM
#28
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Re: Unlimited with Automatic Only???
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40736FF0.159078F6@***.net...
: The type of people that would order a Libby or Cherokeette wouldn't
: know how to drive a manual transmission.
Open a window Bill, you need some fresh air. I do enough shifting at work, I
don't need to bring my work home with me.
Apart from the 1-2, D, OD dilemma with the AW4 I much prefer the auto.. on
road and off. I think I will be doing the TCM mod this summer.
-Brian
news:40736FF0.159078F6@***.net...
: The type of people that would order a Libby or Cherokeette wouldn't
: know how to drive a manual transmission.
Open a window Bill, you need some fresh air. I do enough shifting at work, I
don't need to bring my work home with me.
Apart from the 1-2, D, OD dilemma with the AW4 I much prefer the auto.. on
road and off. I think I will be doing the TCM mod this summer.
-Brian
04-07-2004, 04:18 AM
#29
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Re: Unlimited with Automatic Only???
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40736FF0.159078F6@***.net...
: The type of people that would order a Libby or Cherokeette wouldn't
: know how to drive a manual transmission.
Open a window Bill, you need some fresh air. I do enough shifting at work, I
don't need to bring my work home with me.
Apart from the 1-2, D, OD dilemma with the AW4 I much prefer the auto.. on
road and off. I think I will be doing the TCM mod this summer.
-Brian
news:40736FF0.159078F6@***.net...
: The type of people that would order a Libby or Cherokeette wouldn't
: know how to drive a manual transmission.
Open a window Bill, you need some fresh air. I do enough shifting at work, I
don't need to bring my work home with me.
Apart from the 1-2, D, OD dilemma with the AW4 I much prefer the auto.. on
road and off. I think I will be doing the TCM mod this summer.
-Brian
04-07-2004, 09:38 AM
#30
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Re: Unlimited with Automatic Only???
"cactuscowboy" <cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote in message news:<O6Lcc.86971$JO3.44993@attbi_s04>...
> Right, auto only in the Unlimited. I sell Ford/Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep and I'm
> totally disgusted with the poor or nonexistant availability of manual
> transmissions in general, e.g. can't get a MT in the new '04 F150 or Grand
> Cherokee. I wouldn't own a vehicle with an automatic. I sold a new Mustang
> GT coupe (5 speed) yesterday. Thank God for customers who insist on manual
> transmissions. Maybe if enough customers demanded it, DC will build an
> Unlimited Rubicon with manual transmission as standard equipment.
>
> The majority of people who buy Jeeps would be far better served with a
> minivan. I can't tell you how tiring it is to sell SUV's to poseurs who
> insist on wasting money on a 4WD vehicle that will rarely if ever get
> shifted out of 2WD High. It's all about impressing the neighbors.... "Look
> at me, I'm a badass in a tough SUV".
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Dave Rose
> Cactus Cowboy
> Big Wonderful Wyoming
> '49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
> '62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
> '98 XJ Sport
> O|||||||O
Either that, or they don't like letting clutches out while stalled at
big uphill angles. And buying clutches. What a pain in the ***. I've
had both too, and I'm sticking with the 4-speed in the TJ. Standard's
fine in a sports car.
Matt
> >
> >
> Right, auto only in the Unlimited. I sell Ford/Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep and I'm
> totally disgusted with the poor or nonexistant availability of manual
> transmissions in general, e.g. can't get a MT in the new '04 F150 or Grand
> Cherokee. I wouldn't own a vehicle with an automatic. I sold a new Mustang
> GT coupe (5 speed) yesterday. Thank God for customers who insist on manual
> transmissions. Maybe if enough customers demanded it, DC will build an
> Unlimited Rubicon with manual transmission as standard equipment.
>
> The majority of people who buy Jeeps would be far better served with a
> minivan. I can't tell you how tiring it is to sell SUV's to poseurs who
> insist on wasting money on a 4WD vehicle that will rarely if ever get
> shifted out of 2WD High. It's all about impressing the neighbors.... "Look
> at me, I'm a badass in a tough SUV".
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Dave Rose
> Cactus Cowboy
> Big Wonderful Wyoming
> '49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
> '62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
> '98 XJ Sport
> O|||||||O
Either that, or they don't like letting clutches out while stalled at
big uphill angles. And buying clutches. What a pain in the ***. I've
had both too, and I'm sticking with the 4-speed in the TJ. Standard's
fine in a sports car.
Matt
> >
> >