Unlimited with Automatic Only???
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Re: Unlimited with Automatic Only???
My point exactly.
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:Ky_cc.5981$Ro1.2396@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> I think they will find that they have a larger customer base desiring a
> standard trans in the Unltd. than they anticipate. I could see owning a
> std. Unltd. far more than a std. Grand Cherokee.
>
> CRWLR wrote:
>
> > I understand what you are saying, but it is nothing more than a
stretched
> > TJ, and TJs come with manuals. I get the whole Marketing Thing, it just
> > didn't occur to me that this would happen. AT least the other examples
you
> > cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it
is
> > just a new configuration of an existing model.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
> > news:20040406225718.08081.00000290@mb-m18.aol.com...
> >
> >>In article <1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR"
> >
> > <beerman@yahoo.com>
> >
> >>writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy
took
> >
> > her
> >
> >>>for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
> >>>available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
> >>
> >>Similar to the introduction of the Liberty, and further back, the Grand
> >>Cherokee. Even though the base model (and I think the mid model as well)
> >
> > had a
> >
> >>manual tranny standard, very few if any were made in the first few years
> >>because D-C felt the autos would appeal to a wider audience. In the case
> >
> > of the
> >
> >>Grand Cherokee, so few were ordered with the manual that it was dropped
> >
> > after a
> >
> >>short time.
> >>* * *
> >>Matt Macchiarolo
> >>www.townpeddler.com
> >>www.wolverine4wd.org
> >>"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:Ky_cc.5981$Ro1.2396@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> I think they will find that they have a larger customer base desiring a
> standard trans in the Unltd. than they anticipate. I could see owning a
> std. Unltd. far more than a std. Grand Cherokee.
>
> CRWLR wrote:
>
> > I understand what you are saying, but it is nothing more than a
stretched
> > TJ, and TJs come with manuals. I get the whole Marketing Thing, it just
> > didn't occur to me that this would happen. AT least the other examples
you
> > cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it
is
> > just a new configuration of an existing model.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
> > news:20040406225718.08081.00000290@mb-m18.aol.com...
> >
> >>In article <1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR"
> >
> > <beerman@yahoo.com>
> >
> >>writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy
took
> >
> > her
> >
> >>>for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
> >>>available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
> >>
> >>Similar to the introduction of the Liberty, and further back, the Grand
> >>Cherokee. Even though the base model (and I think the mid model as well)
> >
> > had a
> >
> >>manual tranny standard, very few if any were made in the first few years
> >>because D-C felt the autos would appeal to a wider audience. In the case
> >
> > of the
> >
> >>Grand Cherokee, so few were ordered with the manual that it was dropped
> >
> > after a
> >
> >>short time.
> >>* * *
> >>Matt Macchiarolo
> >>www.townpeddler.com
> >>www.wolverine4wd.org
> >>"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
#52
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Re: Unlimited with Automatic Only???
My point exactly.
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:Ky_cc.5981$Ro1.2396@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> I think they will find that they have a larger customer base desiring a
> standard trans in the Unltd. than they anticipate. I could see owning a
> std. Unltd. far more than a std. Grand Cherokee.
>
> CRWLR wrote:
>
> > I understand what you are saying, but it is nothing more than a
stretched
> > TJ, and TJs come with manuals. I get the whole Marketing Thing, it just
> > didn't occur to me that this would happen. AT least the other examples
you
> > cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it
is
> > just a new configuration of an existing model.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
> > news:20040406225718.08081.00000290@mb-m18.aol.com...
> >
> >>In article <1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR"
> >
> > <beerman@yahoo.com>
> >
> >>writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy
took
> >
> > her
> >
> >>>for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
> >>>available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
> >>
> >>Similar to the introduction of the Liberty, and further back, the Grand
> >>Cherokee. Even though the base model (and I think the mid model as well)
> >
> > had a
> >
> >>manual tranny standard, very few if any were made in the first few years
> >>because D-C felt the autos would appeal to a wider audience. In the case
> >
> > of the
> >
> >>Grand Cherokee, so few were ordered with the manual that it was dropped
> >
> > after a
> >
> >>short time.
> >>* * *
> >>Matt Macchiarolo
> >>www.townpeddler.com
> >>www.wolverine4wd.org
> >>"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:Ky_cc.5981$Ro1.2396@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> I think they will find that they have a larger customer base desiring a
> standard trans in the Unltd. than they anticipate. I could see owning a
> std. Unltd. far more than a std. Grand Cherokee.
>
> CRWLR wrote:
>
> > I understand what you are saying, but it is nothing more than a
stretched
> > TJ, and TJs come with manuals. I get the whole Marketing Thing, it just
> > didn't occur to me that this would happen. AT least the other examples
you
> > cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it
is
> > just a new configuration of an existing model.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
> > news:20040406225718.08081.00000290@mb-m18.aol.com...
> >
> >>In article <1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR"
> >
> > <beerman@yahoo.com>
> >
> >>writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy
took
> >
> > her
> >
> >>>for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
> >>>available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
> >>
> >>Similar to the introduction of the Liberty, and further back, the Grand
> >>Cherokee. Even though the base model (and I think the mid model as well)
> >
> > had a
> >
> >>manual tranny standard, very few if any were made in the first few years
> >>because D-C felt the autos would appeal to a wider audience. In the case
> >
> > of the
> >
> >>Grand Cherokee, so few were ordered with the manual that it was dropped
> >
> > after a
> >
> >>short time.
> >>* * *
> >>Matt Macchiarolo
> >>www.townpeddler.com
> >>www.wolverine4wd.org
> >>"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
#53
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Re: Unlimited with Automatic Only???
My point exactly.
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:Ky_cc.5981$Ro1.2396@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> I think they will find that they have a larger customer base desiring a
> standard trans in the Unltd. than they anticipate. I could see owning a
> std. Unltd. far more than a std. Grand Cherokee.
>
> CRWLR wrote:
>
> > I understand what you are saying, but it is nothing more than a
stretched
> > TJ, and TJs come with manuals. I get the whole Marketing Thing, it just
> > didn't occur to me that this would happen. AT least the other examples
you
> > cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it
is
> > just a new configuration of an existing model.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
> > news:20040406225718.08081.00000290@mb-m18.aol.com...
> >
> >>In article <1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR"
> >
> > <beerman@yahoo.com>
> >
> >>writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy
took
> >
> > her
> >
> >>>for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
> >>>available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
> >>
> >>Similar to the introduction of the Liberty, and further back, the Grand
> >>Cherokee. Even though the base model (and I think the mid model as well)
> >
> > had a
> >
> >>manual tranny standard, very few if any were made in the first few years
> >>because D-C felt the autos would appeal to a wider audience. In the case
> >
> > of the
> >
> >>Grand Cherokee, so few were ordered with the manual that it was dropped
> >
> > after a
> >
> >>short time.
> >>* * *
> >>Matt Macchiarolo
> >>www.townpeddler.com
> >>www.wolverine4wd.org
> >>"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:Ky_cc.5981$Ro1.2396@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> I think they will find that they have a larger customer base desiring a
> standard trans in the Unltd. than they anticipate. I could see owning a
> std. Unltd. far more than a std. Grand Cherokee.
>
> CRWLR wrote:
>
> > I understand what you are saying, but it is nothing more than a
stretched
> > TJ, and TJs come with manuals. I get the whole Marketing Thing, it just
> > didn't occur to me that this would happen. AT least the other examples
you
> > cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it
is
> > just a new configuration of an existing model.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
> > news:20040406225718.08081.00000290@mb-m18.aol.com...
> >
> >>In article <1076lq08mpl3t9a@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR"
> >
> > <beerman@yahoo.com>
> >
> >>writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I have a friend that is looking at a new TJ, and the dealership guy
took
> >
> > her
> >
> >>>for a ride in an Unlimited. He is telling her that the Unlimited is
> >>>available with an automatic trans only. Is this true?
> >>
> >>Similar to the introduction of the Liberty, and further back, the Grand
> >>Cherokee. Even though the base model (and I think the mid model as well)
> >
> > had a
> >
> >>manual tranny standard, very few if any were made in the first few years
> >>because D-C felt the autos would appeal to a wider audience. In the case
> >
> > of the
> >
> >>Grand Cherokee, so few were ordered with the manual that it was dropped
> >
> > after a
> >
> >>short time.
> >>* * *
> >>Matt Macchiarolo
> >>www.townpeddler.com
> >>www.wolverine4wd.org
> >>"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
#54
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Re: Unlimited with Automatic Only???
In article <1078suaqqemsc18@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM>
writes:
>AT least the other examples you
>cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it is
>just a new configuration of an existing model.
That's why I used the word "similar," as opposed to "identical."
;-)
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
writes:
>AT least the other examples you
>cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it is
>just a new configuration of an existing model.
That's why I used the word "similar," as opposed to "identical."
;-)
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
#55
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Posts: n/a
Re: Unlimited with Automatic Only???
In article <1078suaqqemsc18@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM>
writes:
>AT least the other examples you
>cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it is
>just a new configuration of an existing model.
That's why I used the word "similar," as opposed to "identical."
;-)
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
writes:
>AT least the other examples you
>cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it is
>just a new configuration of an existing model.
That's why I used the word "similar," as opposed to "identical."
;-)
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
#56
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Posts: n/a
Re: Unlimited with Automatic Only???
In article <1078suaqqemsc18@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM>
writes:
>AT least the other examples you
>cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it is
>just a new configuration of an existing model.
That's why I used the word "similar," as opposed to "identical."
;-)
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
writes:
>AT least the other examples you
>cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it is
>just a new configuration of an existing model.
That's why I used the word "similar," as opposed to "identical."
;-)
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
#57
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Posts: n/a
Re: Unlimited with Automatic Only???
In article <Ky_cc.5981$Ro1.2396@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com> , twaldron
<thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> writes:
>I think they will find that they have a larger customer base desiring a
>standard trans in the Unltd. than they anticipate. I could see owning a
>std. Unltd. far more than a std. Grand Cherokee.
I agree, but I still think that even when the standard is in production, more
will be sold with the automatic.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
<thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> writes:
>I think they will find that they have a larger customer base desiring a
>standard trans in the Unltd. than they anticipate. I could see owning a
>std. Unltd. far more than a std. Grand Cherokee.
I agree, but I still think that even when the standard is in production, more
will be sold with the automatic.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
#58
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Unlimited with Automatic Only???
In article <Ky_cc.5981$Ro1.2396@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com> , twaldron
<thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> writes:
>I think they will find that they have a larger customer base desiring a
>standard trans in the Unltd. than they anticipate. I could see owning a
>std. Unltd. far more than a std. Grand Cherokee.
I agree, but I still think that even when the standard is in production, more
will be sold with the automatic.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
<thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> writes:
>I think they will find that they have a larger customer base desiring a
>standard trans in the Unltd. than they anticipate. I could see owning a
>std. Unltd. far more than a std. Grand Cherokee.
I agree, but I still think that even when the standard is in production, more
will be sold with the automatic.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
#59
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Unlimited with Automatic Only???
In article <Ky_cc.5981$Ro1.2396@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com> , twaldron
<thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> writes:
>I think they will find that they have a larger customer base desiring a
>standard trans in the Unltd. than they anticipate. I could see owning a
>std. Unltd. far more than a std. Grand Cherokee.
I agree, but I still think that even when the standard is in production, more
will be sold with the automatic.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
<thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> writes:
>I think they will find that they have a larger customer base desiring a
>standard trans in the Unltd. than they anticipate. I could see owning a
>std. Unltd. far more than a std. Grand Cherokee.
I agree, but I still think that even when the standard is in production, more
will be sold with the automatic.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
#60
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Posts: n/a
Re: Unlimited with Automatic Only???
In article <1078suaqqemsc18@corp.supernews.com>, "CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM>
writes:
>AT least the other examples you
>cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it is
>just a new configuration of an existing model.
That's why I used the word "similar," as opposed to "identical."
;-)
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow
writes:
>AT least the other examples you
>cited were in fact different models, but this one is not a new model, it is
>just a new configuration of an existing model.
That's why I used the word "similar," as opposed to "identical."
;-)
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow