Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
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Re: Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
I grew up on bailing wire, carefully tied together and thrown in a
stack for later use.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Hey now, I upgraded that belt to bailing wire!
>
> Just you wait, I will post some nice photos when I am done.
>
> Mike
stack for later use.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Hey now, I upgraded that belt to bailing wire!
>
> Just you wait, I will post some nice photos when I am done.
>
> Mike
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Re: Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
I grew up on bailing wire, carefully tied together and thrown in a
stack for later use.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Hey now, I upgraded that belt to bailing wire!
>
> Just you wait, I will post some nice photos when I am done.
>
> Mike
stack for later use.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Hey now, I upgraded that belt to bailing wire!
>
> Just you wait, I will post some nice photos when I am done.
>
> Mike
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Re: Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
But when do I get my belt back?
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> I grew up on bailing wire, carefully tied together and thrown in a
> stack for later use.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> Hey now, I upgraded that belt to bailing wire!
>>
>> Just you wait, I will post some nice photos when I am done.
>>
>> Mike
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> I grew up on bailing wire, carefully tied together and thrown in a
> stack for later use.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> Hey now, I upgraded that belt to bailing wire!
>>
>> Just you wait, I will post some nice photos when I am done.
>>
>> Mike
#54
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Re: Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
But when do I get my belt back?
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> I grew up on bailing wire, carefully tied together and thrown in a
> stack for later use.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> Hey now, I upgraded that belt to bailing wire!
>>
>> Just you wait, I will post some nice photos when I am done.
>>
>> Mike
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:449C8584.8DF2ECEA@***.net...
> I grew up on bailing wire, carefully tied together and thrown in a
> stack for later use.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> Hey now, I upgraded that belt to bailing wire!
>>
>> Just you wait, I will post some nice photos when I am done.
>>
>> Mike
#55
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Re: Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
But when do I get my belt back?
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> I grew up on bailing wire, carefully tied together and thrown in a
> stack for later use.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> Hey now, I upgraded that belt to bailing wire!
>>
>> Just you wait, I will post some nice photos when I am done.
>>
>> Mike
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:449C8584.8DF2ECEA@***.net...
> I grew up on bailing wire, carefully tied together and thrown in a
> stack for later use.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> Hey now, I upgraded that belt to bailing wire!
>>
>> Just you wait, I will post some nice photos when I am done.
>>
>> Mike
#56
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Re: Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
LOL.
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billy ray wrote:
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> But when do I get my belt back?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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billy ray wrote:
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> But when do I get my belt back?
#57
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Re: Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
LOL.
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billy ray wrote:
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> But when do I get my belt back?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
billy ray wrote:
>
> But when do I get my belt back?
#58
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Re: Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
LOL.
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billy ray wrote:
>
> But when do I get my belt back?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
billy ray wrote:
>
> But when do I get my belt back?
#59
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Yes you throw your money away if you do not use synthetic oil it is about
the sheer strength
Key Advantages of Synthetic
1) Volatility: Synthetics do not evaporate as readily as Petrol. based.
Usually, synthetic lubricants are
based on 1 molecule with a flat distillation curve.
2) Better viscosity versus temperature behavior Thin less as they get hot
Thicken less as they cool
3) better oxidation stability
4) Synthetic Oil has 10% better heat transfer than Petroleum based
lubricants.
Viscosity Index Improvers
Rubber and Plastic Polymers
Start with a base of straight weight Oil. Then add a polymeric thickener.
When hot, the long polymer chain
is really moving around, causing the oil to flow less. When cold, the
polymers stick to each other,
essentially coming out of suspension. The polymers are stable up to about
210 F, where they start to
break up. The drawbacks to VI polymers is that they can cause engine dirt
because of their low shear
strength.
Viscosity A B C D
High | ' ' ' '
| ' ' ' '
|* ' ' ' '
| \ ' ' ' '
| *- ' ' ' '
| *\ ' ' ' '
| *- ' ' ' '
| *\' ' ' '
| *- ' ' '
| ' *\ ' ' '
|-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-
| ' *-*\ ' ' '
| ' *\*-*\*-*\*-*\*-*\*-*\*-*\*-*\*-*\
| ' ' ' '
Low |_________________________________________________ ____________
Low High
Sheer Rate
A Shear at Piston Rings
B Shear at Main Bearings
C Shear at Cylinder Wall
D Shear at Connecting Rod Bearings
-+-+ Viscosity of a Straight Weight Oil (Petro. Or Synthetic)
*\*- Viscosity of A MultiGrade Oil (Base with VI polymers)
What this chart shows is that a straight oil has the same viscosity
regardless of shear rate. However, as the
shear rate increases, the shear breaks down the VI polymers, and multigrade
oils have less actual viscosity
at the localized high shear rate area.
The weak link is the rod bearings and Cam, in terms of rate of shear. There
is less friction at the piston
rings. Anti Wear is much more important at the cam.
Coasty
"Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:449a9b05$0$3478$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> Unless you are operating your vehicle under severe operating conditions,
> you
> are flushing money down the toilet changing oil every 3,000 miles. Just
> make sure that the oil is hot when drained, so you don't get sludge.
>
> Earle
>
> "JEEPMAN" <JPMN55@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:21874-449A77AA-163@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net...
>> I know this has been discussed here before, but I'm going to bring it
>> up again: Is it too late to switch over from dino oil to a synthetic
>> blend at 28K? The model year is 2002 and I've had the oil changed on or
>> about every 3K miles. Also, does the system have to be flushed? TIA
>>
>
>
the sheer strength
Key Advantages of Synthetic
1) Volatility: Synthetics do not evaporate as readily as Petrol. based.
Usually, synthetic lubricants are
based on 1 molecule with a flat distillation curve.
2) Better viscosity versus temperature behavior Thin less as they get hot
Thicken less as they cool
3) better oxidation stability
4) Synthetic Oil has 10% better heat transfer than Petroleum based
lubricants.
Viscosity Index Improvers
Rubber and Plastic Polymers
Start with a base of straight weight Oil. Then add a polymeric thickener.
When hot, the long polymer chain
is really moving around, causing the oil to flow less. When cold, the
polymers stick to each other,
essentially coming out of suspension. The polymers are stable up to about
210 F, where they start to
break up. The drawbacks to VI polymers is that they can cause engine dirt
because of their low shear
strength.
Viscosity A B C D
High | ' ' ' '
| ' ' ' '
|* ' ' ' '
| \ ' ' ' '
| *- ' ' ' '
| *\ ' ' ' '
| *- ' ' ' '
| *\' ' ' '
| *- ' ' '
| ' *\ ' ' '
|-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-
| ' *-*\ ' ' '
| ' *\*-*\*-*\*-*\*-*\*-*\*-*\*-*\*-*\
| ' ' ' '
Low |_________________________________________________ ____________
Low High
Sheer Rate
A Shear at Piston Rings
B Shear at Main Bearings
C Shear at Cylinder Wall
D Shear at Connecting Rod Bearings
-+-+ Viscosity of a Straight Weight Oil (Petro. Or Synthetic)
*\*- Viscosity of A MultiGrade Oil (Base with VI polymers)
What this chart shows is that a straight oil has the same viscosity
regardless of shear rate. However, as the
shear rate increases, the shear breaks down the VI polymers, and multigrade
oils have less actual viscosity
at the localized high shear rate area.
The weak link is the rod bearings and Cam, in terms of rate of shear. There
is less friction at the piston
rings. Anti Wear is much more important at the cam.
Coasty
"Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:449a9b05$0$3478$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> Unless you are operating your vehicle under severe operating conditions,
> you
> are flushing money down the toilet changing oil every 3,000 miles. Just
> make sure that the oil is hot when drained, so you don't get sludge.
>
> Earle
>
> "JEEPMAN" <JPMN55@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:21874-449A77AA-163@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net...
>> I know this has been discussed here before, but I'm going to bring it
>> up again: Is it too late to switch over from dino oil to a synthetic
>> blend at 28K? The model year is 2002 and I've had the oil changed on or
>> about every 3K miles. Also, does the system have to be flushed? TIA
>>
>
>
#60
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Re: Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
Yes you throw your money away if you do not use synthetic oil it is about
the sheer strength
Key Advantages of Synthetic
1) Volatility: Synthetics do not evaporate as readily as Petrol. based.
Usually, synthetic lubricants are
based on 1 molecule with a flat distillation curve.
2) Better viscosity versus temperature behavior Thin less as they get hot
Thicken less as they cool
3) better oxidation stability
4) Synthetic Oil has 10% better heat transfer than Petroleum based
lubricants.
Viscosity Index Improvers
Rubber and Plastic Polymers
Start with a base of straight weight Oil. Then add a polymeric thickener.
When hot, the long polymer chain
is really moving around, causing the oil to flow less. When cold, the
polymers stick to each other,
essentially coming out of suspension. The polymers are stable up to about
210 F, where they start to
break up. The drawbacks to VI polymers is that they can cause engine dirt
because of their low shear
strength.
Viscosity A B C D
High | ' ' ' '
| ' ' ' '
|* ' ' ' '
| \ ' ' ' '
| *- ' ' ' '
| *\ ' ' ' '
| *- ' ' ' '
| *\' ' ' '
| *- ' ' '
| ' *\ ' ' '
|-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-
| ' *-*\ ' ' '
| ' *\*-*\*-*\*-*\*-*\*-*\*-*\*-*\*-*\
| ' ' ' '
Low |_________________________________________________ ____________
Low High
Sheer Rate
A Shear at Piston Rings
B Shear at Main Bearings
C Shear at Cylinder Wall
D Shear at Connecting Rod Bearings
-+-+ Viscosity of a Straight Weight Oil (Petro. Or Synthetic)
*\*- Viscosity of A MultiGrade Oil (Base with VI polymers)
What this chart shows is that a straight oil has the same viscosity
regardless of shear rate. However, as the
shear rate increases, the shear breaks down the VI polymers, and multigrade
oils have less actual viscosity
at the localized high shear rate area.
The weak link is the rod bearings and Cam, in terms of rate of shear. There
is less friction at the piston
rings. Anti Wear is much more important at the cam.
Coasty
"Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:449a9b05$0$3478$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> Unless you are operating your vehicle under severe operating conditions,
> you
> are flushing money down the toilet changing oil every 3,000 miles. Just
> make sure that the oil is hot when drained, so you don't get sludge.
>
> Earle
>
> "JEEPMAN" <JPMN55@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:21874-449A77AA-163@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net...
>> I know this has been discussed here before, but I'm going to bring it
>> up again: Is it too late to switch over from dino oil to a synthetic
>> blend at 28K? The model year is 2002 and I've had the oil changed on or
>> about every 3K miles. Also, does the system have to be flushed? TIA
>>
>
>
the sheer strength
Key Advantages of Synthetic
1) Volatility: Synthetics do not evaporate as readily as Petrol. based.
Usually, synthetic lubricants are
based on 1 molecule with a flat distillation curve.
2) Better viscosity versus temperature behavior Thin less as they get hot
Thicken less as they cool
3) better oxidation stability
4) Synthetic Oil has 10% better heat transfer than Petroleum based
lubricants.
Viscosity Index Improvers
Rubber and Plastic Polymers
Start with a base of straight weight Oil. Then add a polymeric thickener.
When hot, the long polymer chain
is really moving around, causing the oil to flow less. When cold, the
polymers stick to each other,
essentially coming out of suspension. The polymers are stable up to about
210 F, where they start to
break up. The drawbacks to VI polymers is that they can cause engine dirt
because of their low shear
strength.
Viscosity A B C D
High | ' ' ' '
| ' ' ' '
|* ' ' ' '
| \ ' ' ' '
| *- ' ' ' '
| *\ ' ' ' '
| *- ' ' ' '
| *\' ' ' '
| *- ' ' '
| ' *\ ' ' '
|-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-
| ' *-*\ ' ' '
| ' *\*-*\*-*\*-*\*-*\*-*\*-*\*-*\*-*\
| ' ' ' '
Low |_________________________________________________ ____________
Low High
Sheer Rate
A Shear at Piston Rings
B Shear at Main Bearings
C Shear at Cylinder Wall
D Shear at Connecting Rod Bearings
-+-+ Viscosity of a Straight Weight Oil (Petro. Or Synthetic)
*\*- Viscosity of A MultiGrade Oil (Base with VI polymers)
What this chart shows is that a straight oil has the same viscosity
regardless of shear rate. However, as the
shear rate increases, the shear breaks down the VI polymers, and multigrade
oils have less actual viscosity
at the localized high shear rate area.
The weak link is the rod bearings and Cam, in terms of rate of shear. There
is less friction at the piston
rings. Anti Wear is much more important at the cam.
Coasty
"Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:449a9b05$0$3478$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> Unless you are operating your vehicle under severe operating conditions,
> you
> are flushing money down the toilet changing oil every 3,000 miles. Just
> make sure that the oil is hot when drained, so you don't get sludge.
>
> Earle
>
> "JEEPMAN" <JPMN55@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:21874-449A77AA-163@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net...
>> I know this has been discussed here before, but I'm going to bring it
>> up again: Is it too late to switch over from dino oil to a synthetic
>> blend at 28K? The model year is 2002 and I've had the oil changed on or
>> about every 3K miles. Also, does the system have to be flushed? TIA
>>
>
>