Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
06-22-2006, 09:40 AM
#11
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Re: Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
Why would you want to?
Jeep engines have the reputation of running up to 300K or so using
regular old oil that gets changed when it is 'supposed' to get changed.
'Most' of the so called synthetic is 'fake' synthetic. The oil
companies went to court to get the definition of 'synthetic' changed so
they can slap the label on any old crap and charge 3X as much for it.
It has turned into a total marketing scam.
My $0.02 for ya.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
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JEEPMAN wrote:
>
> I know this has been discussed here before, but I'm going to bring it
> up again: Is it too late to switch over from dino oil to a synthetic
> blend at 28K? The model year is 2002 and I've had the oil changed on or
> about every 3K miles. Also, does the system have to be flushed? TIA
Jeep engines have the reputation of running up to 300K or so using
regular old oil that gets changed when it is 'supposed' to get changed.
'Most' of the so called synthetic is 'fake' synthetic. The oil
companies went to court to get the definition of 'synthetic' changed so
they can slap the label on any old crap and charge 3X as much for it.
It has turned into a total marketing scam.
My $0.02 for ya.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
JEEPMAN wrote:
>
> I know this has been discussed here before, but I'm going to bring it
> up again: Is it too late to switch over from dino oil to a synthetic
> blend at 28K? The model year is 2002 and I've had the oil changed on or
> about every 3K miles. Also, does the system have to be flushed? TIA
06-22-2006, 09:40 AM
#12
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Re: Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
Why would you want to?
Jeep engines have the reputation of running up to 300K or so using
regular old oil that gets changed when it is 'supposed' to get changed.
'Most' of the so called synthetic is 'fake' synthetic. The oil
companies went to court to get the definition of 'synthetic' changed so
they can slap the label on any old crap and charge 3X as much for it.
It has turned into a total marketing scam.
My $0.02 for ya.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
JEEPMAN wrote:
>
> I know this has been discussed here before, but I'm going to bring it
> up again: Is it too late to switch over from dino oil to a synthetic
> blend at 28K? The model year is 2002 and I've had the oil changed on or
> about every 3K miles. Also, does the system have to be flushed? TIA
Jeep engines have the reputation of running up to 300K or so using
regular old oil that gets changed when it is 'supposed' to get changed.
'Most' of the so called synthetic is 'fake' synthetic. The oil
companies went to court to get the definition of 'synthetic' changed so
they can slap the label on any old crap and charge 3X as much for it.
It has turned into a total marketing scam.
My $0.02 for ya.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
JEEPMAN wrote:
>
> I know this has been discussed here before, but I'm going to bring it
> up again: Is it too late to switch over from dino oil to a synthetic
> blend at 28K? The model year is 2002 and I've had the oil changed on or
> about every 3K miles. Also, does the system have to be flushed? TIA
06-22-2006, 09:40 AM
#13
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Re: Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
Why would you want to?
Jeep engines have the reputation of running up to 300K or so using
regular old oil that gets changed when it is 'supposed' to get changed.
'Most' of the so called synthetic is 'fake' synthetic. The oil
companies went to court to get the definition of 'synthetic' changed so
they can slap the label on any old crap and charge 3X as much for it.
It has turned into a total marketing scam.
My $0.02 for ya.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
JEEPMAN wrote:
>
> I know this has been discussed here before, but I'm going to bring it
> up again: Is it too late to switch over from dino oil to a synthetic
> blend at 28K? The model year is 2002 and I've had the oil changed on or
> about every 3K miles. Also, does the system have to be flushed? TIA
Jeep engines have the reputation of running up to 300K or so using
regular old oil that gets changed when it is 'supposed' to get changed.
'Most' of the so called synthetic is 'fake' synthetic. The oil
companies went to court to get the definition of 'synthetic' changed so
they can slap the label on any old crap and charge 3X as much for it.
It has turned into a total marketing scam.
My $0.02 for ya.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
JEEPMAN wrote:
>
> I know this has been discussed here before, but I'm going to bring it
> up again: Is it too late to switch over from dino oil to a synthetic
> blend at 28K? The model year is 2002 and I've had the oil changed on or
> about every 3K miles. Also, does the system have to be flushed? TIA
06-22-2006, 10:44 AM
#14
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Re: Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
Unless you are operating your vehicle under severe operating conditions, you
are flushing money down the toilet changing oil every 3,000 miles. Just
make sure that the oil is hot when drained, so you don't get sludge.
Earle
"JEEPMAN" <JPMN55@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:21874-449A77AA-163@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net...
> I know this has been discussed here before, but I'm going to bring it
> up again: Is it too late to switch over from dino oil to a synthetic
> blend at 28K? The model year is 2002 and I've had the oil changed on or
> about every 3K miles. Also, does the system have to be flushed? TIA
>
are flushing money down the toilet changing oil every 3,000 miles. Just
make sure that the oil is hot when drained, so you don't get sludge.
Earle
"JEEPMAN" <JPMN55@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:21874-449A77AA-163@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net...
> I know this has been discussed here before, but I'm going to bring it
> up again: Is it too late to switch over from dino oil to a synthetic
> blend at 28K? The model year is 2002 and I've had the oil changed on or
> about every 3K miles. Also, does the system have to be flushed? TIA
>
06-22-2006, 10:44 AM
#15
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Re: Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
Unless you are operating your vehicle under severe operating conditions, you
are flushing money down the toilet changing oil every 3,000 miles. Just
make sure that the oil is hot when drained, so you don't get sludge.
Earle
"JEEPMAN" <JPMN55@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:21874-449A77AA-163@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net...
> I know this has been discussed here before, but I'm going to bring it
> up again: Is it too late to switch over from dino oil to a synthetic
> blend at 28K? The model year is 2002 and I've had the oil changed on or
> about every 3K miles. Also, does the system have to be flushed? TIA
>
are flushing money down the toilet changing oil every 3,000 miles. Just
make sure that the oil is hot when drained, so you don't get sludge.
Earle
"JEEPMAN" <JPMN55@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:21874-449A77AA-163@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net...
> I know this has been discussed here before, but I'm going to bring it
> up again: Is it too late to switch over from dino oil to a synthetic
> blend at 28K? The model year is 2002 and I've had the oil changed on or
> about every 3K miles. Also, does the system have to be flushed? TIA
>
06-22-2006, 10:44 AM
#16
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Re: Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
Unless you are operating your vehicle under severe operating conditions, you
are flushing money down the toilet changing oil every 3,000 miles. Just
make sure that the oil is hot when drained, so you don't get sludge.
Earle
"JEEPMAN" <JPMN55@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:21874-449A77AA-163@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net...
> I know this has been discussed here before, but I'm going to bring it
> up again: Is it too late to switch over from dino oil to a synthetic
> blend at 28K? The model year is 2002 and I've had the oil changed on or
> about every 3K miles. Also, does the system have to be flushed? TIA
>
are flushing money down the toilet changing oil every 3,000 miles. Just
make sure that the oil is hot when drained, so you don't get sludge.
Earle
"JEEPMAN" <JPMN55@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:21874-449A77AA-163@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net...
> I know this has been discussed here before, but I'm going to bring it
> up again: Is it too late to switch over from dino oil to a synthetic
> blend at 28K? The model year is 2002 and I've had the oil changed on or
> about every 3K miles. Also, does the system have to be flushed? TIA
>
06-22-2006, 11:00 AM
#17
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Re: Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
Well... My engines don't think so Earle.
When my engines are down a liter of oil and I check the odometer, they
are usually due for the 3-4K mike change. If I don't change the oil and
just add a liter, both engines seem to start using oil pretty fast, like
in the 500-1000 mile per liter range instead of the first liter used
which lasted over 3K.
I think the oil breaks down at that point and physically gets thinner or
it sure acts that way.
Most older engines I have owned were like this.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Unless you are operating your vehicle under severe operating conditions, you
> are flushing money down the toilet changing oil every 3,000 miles. Just
> make sure that the oil is hot when drained, so you don't get sludge.
>
> Earle
>
> "JEEPMAN" <JPMN55@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:21874-449A77AA-163@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net...
> > I know this has been discussed here before, but I'm going to bring it
> > up again: Is it too late to switch over from dino oil to a synthetic
> > blend at 28K? The model year is 2002 and I've had the oil changed on or
> > about every 3K miles. Also, does the system have to be flushed? TIA
> >
When my engines are down a liter of oil and I check the odometer, they
are usually due for the 3-4K mike change. If I don't change the oil and
just add a liter, both engines seem to start using oil pretty fast, like
in the 500-1000 mile per liter range instead of the first liter used
which lasted over 3K.
I think the oil breaks down at that point and physically gets thinner or
it sure acts that way.
Most older engines I have owned were like this.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Unless you are operating your vehicle under severe operating conditions, you
> are flushing money down the toilet changing oil every 3,000 miles. Just
> make sure that the oil is hot when drained, so you don't get sludge.
>
> Earle
>
> "JEEPMAN" <JPMN55@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:21874-449A77AA-163@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net...
> > I know this has been discussed here before, but I'm going to bring it
> > up again: Is it too late to switch over from dino oil to a synthetic
> > blend at 28K? The model year is 2002 and I've had the oil changed on or
> > about every 3K miles. Also, does the system have to be flushed? TIA
> >
06-22-2006, 11:00 AM
#18
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Re: Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
Well... My engines don't think so Earle.
When my engines are down a liter of oil and I check the odometer, they
are usually due for the 3-4K mike change. If I don't change the oil and
just add a liter, both engines seem to start using oil pretty fast, like
in the 500-1000 mile per liter range instead of the first liter used
which lasted over 3K.
I think the oil breaks down at that point and physically gets thinner or
it sure acts that way.
Most older engines I have owned were like this.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Unless you are operating your vehicle under severe operating conditions, you
> are flushing money down the toilet changing oil every 3,000 miles. Just
> make sure that the oil is hot when drained, so you don't get sludge.
>
> Earle
>
> "JEEPMAN" <JPMN55@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:21874-449A77AA-163@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net...
> > I know this has been discussed here before, but I'm going to bring it
> > up again: Is it too late to switch over from dino oil to a synthetic
> > blend at 28K? The model year is 2002 and I've had the oil changed on or
> > about every 3K miles. Also, does the system have to be flushed? TIA
> >
When my engines are down a liter of oil and I check the odometer, they
are usually due for the 3-4K mike change. If I don't change the oil and
just add a liter, both engines seem to start using oil pretty fast, like
in the 500-1000 mile per liter range instead of the first liter used
which lasted over 3K.
I think the oil breaks down at that point and physically gets thinner or
it sure acts that way.
Most older engines I have owned were like this.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Unless you are operating your vehicle under severe operating conditions, you
> are flushing money down the toilet changing oil every 3,000 miles. Just
> make sure that the oil is hot when drained, so you don't get sludge.
>
> Earle
>
> "JEEPMAN" <JPMN55@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:21874-449A77AA-163@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net...
> > I know this has been discussed here before, but I'm going to bring it
> > up again: Is it too late to switch over from dino oil to a synthetic
> > blend at 28K? The model year is 2002 and I've had the oil changed on or
> > about every 3K miles. Also, does the system have to be flushed? TIA
> >
06-22-2006, 11:00 AM
#19
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Re: Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
Well... My engines don't think so Earle.
When my engines are down a liter of oil and I check the odometer, they
are usually due for the 3-4K mike change. If I don't change the oil and
just add a liter, both engines seem to start using oil pretty fast, like
in the 500-1000 mile per liter range instead of the first liter used
which lasted over 3K.
I think the oil breaks down at that point and physically gets thinner or
it sure acts that way.
Most older engines I have owned were like this.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Unless you are operating your vehicle under severe operating conditions, you
> are flushing money down the toilet changing oil every 3,000 miles. Just
> make sure that the oil is hot when drained, so you don't get sludge.
>
> Earle
>
> "JEEPMAN" <JPMN55@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:21874-449A77AA-163@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net...
> > I know this has been discussed here before, but I'm going to bring it
> > up again: Is it too late to switch over from dino oil to a synthetic
> > blend at 28K? The model year is 2002 and I've had the oil changed on or
> > about every 3K miles. Also, does the system have to be flushed? TIA
> >
When my engines are down a liter of oil and I check the odometer, they
are usually due for the 3-4K mike change. If I don't change the oil and
just add a liter, both engines seem to start using oil pretty fast, like
in the 500-1000 mile per liter range instead of the first liter used
which lasted over 3K.
I think the oil breaks down at that point and physically gets thinner or
it sure acts that way.
Most older engines I have owned were like this.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Unless you are operating your vehicle under severe operating conditions, you
> are flushing money down the toilet changing oil every 3,000 miles. Just
> make sure that the oil is hot when drained, so you don't get sludge.
>
> Earle
>
> "JEEPMAN" <JPMN55@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:21874-449A77AA-163@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net...
> > I know this has been discussed here before, but I'm going to bring it
> > up again: Is it too late to switch over from dino oil to a synthetic
> > blend at 28K? The model year is 2002 and I've had the oil changed on or
> > about every 3K miles. Also, does the system have to be flushed? TIA
> >
06-22-2006, 01:32 PM
#20
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Re: Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
That would be "severe operating conditions" of some kind. Lots of
conditions can make it that, like rust belt, water in the air, cold
temperatures at night, short trips, maybe you're running a little rich. You
could have a chemical analysis done, or keep doing what you are doing. This
guy is talking about 3k oil changes since new, and worrying about whether
the system needs to be "flushed". I seriously doubt that that is the case,
unless of course he lives in a cold, wet area too.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:449AB082.F459FE5A@sympatico.ca...
> Well... My engines don't think so Earle.
>
> When my engines are down a liter of oil and I check the odometer, they
> are usually due for the 3-4K mike change. If I don't change the oil and
> just add a liter, both engines seem to start using oil pretty fast, like
> in the 500-1000 mile per liter range instead of the first liter used
> which lasted over 3K.
>
> I think the oil breaks down at that point and physically gets thinner or
> it sure acts that way.
>
> Most older engines I have owned were like this.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Unless you are operating your vehicle under severe operating conditions,
you
> > are flushing money down the toilet changing oil every 3,000 miles. Just
> > make sure that the oil is hot when drained, so you don't get sludge.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "JEEPMAN" <JPMN55@webtv.net> wrote in message
> > news:21874-449A77AA-163@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net...
> > > I know this has been discussed here before, but I'm going to bring it
> > > up again: Is it too late to switch over from dino oil to a synthetic
> > > blend at 28K? The model year is 2002 and I've had the oil changed on
or
> > > about every 3K miles. Also, does the system have to be flushed? TIA
> > >
conditions can make it that, like rust belt, water in the air, cold
temperatures at night, short trips, maybe you're running a little rich. You
could have a chemical analysis done, or keep doing what you are doing. This
guy is talking about 3k oil changes since new, and worrying about whether
the system needs to be "flushed". I seriously doubt that that is the case,
unless of course he lives in a cold, wet area too.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:449AB082.F459FE5A@sympatico.ca...
> Well... My engines don't think so Earle.
>
> When my engines are down a liter of oil and I check the odometer, they
> are usually due for the 3-4K mike change. If I don't change the oil and
> just add a liter, both engines seem to start using oil pretty fast, like
> in the 500-1000 mile per liter range instead of the first liter used
> which lasted over 3K.
>
> I think the oil breaks down at that point and physically gets thinner or
> it sure acts that way.
>
> Most older engines I have owned were like this.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Unless you are operating your vehicle under severe operating conditions,
you
> > are flushing money down the toilet changing oil every 3,000 miles. Just
> > make sure that the oil is hot when drained, so you don't get sludge.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "JEEPMAN" <JPMN55@webtv.net> wrote in message
> > news:21874-449A77AA-163@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net...
> > > I know this has been discussed here before, but I'm going to bring it
> > > up again: Is it too late to switch over from dino oil to a synthetic
> > > blend at 28K? The model year is 2002 and I've had the oil changed on
or
> > > about every 3K miles. Also, does the system have to be flushed? TIA
> > >