Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
#371
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Re: Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
To whom would that money go if not submitted to the government? Are
trying to tell me that it wouldn't be available to increase your
salary?
Form 8109 is the form I use to submit payments, including 940, 941 and
1042. I'm small potatoes, Matt, I only make monthly payments.
On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:48:30 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
<matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>Would you like to contribute to my corporation's Federal tax payment this
>year? Form 8108 I believe, estimated quarterly payments.
>
><Matt Osborn> wrote in message
>news:1id3a253q6o7m8uma8dc87r2o8vkulvrrj@4ax.com.. .
>> The problem is, and always has been, that corporations _never_ pay
>> taxes. Their customers, employees and shareholders pay taxes, but the
>> corporations do not.
>>
>> When a government _says_ that it wants to tax corporations, what they
>> mean is that they want to tax everybody else and the corporation is
>> going to be the tax collector.
>>
>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:53:01 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
>> <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>
>>>So you don't count corporate welfare as subsidies. Riiiiiight.
>>>
>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>news:44A08FEF.20BD224A@***.net...
>>>> No Good. I'm looking for actual subsidies per gallon like this
>>>> fifty four cents a gallon on ethanol
>>>> http://www.ssu.missouri.edu/publicat...97/vandyne.htm Without
>>>> that ratio we might as well be talking about the two thousand bucks your
>>>> president Bush save you income tax, great, but it doesn't give Me your
>>>> total tax.
>>>> And if you pay yourself fifty cents an hour?
>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.ethanol-gec.org/winter2000/winter0020.html
>>>>>
>>>>> I cut my own.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>
-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
trying to tell me that it wouldn't be available to increase your
salary?
Form 8109 is the form I use to submit payments, including 940, 941 and
1042. I'm small potatoes, Matt, I only make monthly payments.
On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:48:30 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
<matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>Would you like to contribute to my corporation's Federal tax payment this
>year? Form 8108 I believe, estimated quarterly payments.
>
><Matt Osborn> wrote in message
>news:1id3a253q6o7m8uma8dc87r2o8vkulvrrj@4ax.com.. .
>> The problem is, and always has been, that corporations _never_ pay
>> taxes. Their customers, employees and shareholders pay taxes, but the
>> corporations do not.
>>
>> When a government _says_ that it wants to tax corporations, what they
>> mean is that they want to tax everybody else and the corporation is
>> going to be the tax collector.
>>
>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:53:01 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
>> <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>
>>>So you don't count corporate welfare as subsidies. Riiiiiight.
>>>
>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>news:44A08FEF.20BD224A@***.net...
>>>> No Good. I'm looking for actual subsidies per gallon like this
>>>> fifty four cents a gallon on ethanol
>>>> http://www.ssu.missouri.edu/publicat...97/vandyne.htm Without
>>>> that ratio we might as well be talking about the two thousand bucks your
>>>> president Bush save you income tax, great, but it doesn't give Me your
>>>> total tax.
>>>> And if you pay yourself fifty cents an hour?
>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.ethanol-gec.org/winter2000/winter0020.html
>>>>>
>>>>> I cut my own.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>
-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
#372
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Posts: n/a
Re: Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
To whom would that money go if not submitted to the government? Are
trying to tell me that it wouldn't be available to increase your
salary?
Form 8109 is the form I use to submit payments, including 940, 941 and
1042. I'm small potatoes, Matt, I only make monthly payments.
On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:48:30 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
<matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>Would you like to contribute to my corporation's Federal tax payment this
>year? Form 8108 I believe, estimated quarterly payments.
>
><Matt Osborn> wrote in message
>news:1id3a253q6o7m8uma8dc87r2o8vkulvrrj@4ax.com.. .
>> The problem is, and always has been, that corporations _never_ pay
>> taxes. Their customers, employees and shareholders pay taxes, but the
>> corporations do not.
>>
>> When a government _says_ that it wants to tax corporations, what they
>> mean is that they want to tax everybody else and the corporation is
>> going to be the tax collector.
>>
>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:53:01 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
>> <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>
>>>So you don't count corporate welfare as subsidies. Riiiiiight.
>>>
>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>news:44A08FEF.20BD224A@***.net...
>>>> No Good. I'm looking for actual subsidies per gallon like this
>>>> fifty four cents a gallon on ethanol
>>>> http://www.ssu.missouri.edu/publicat...97/vandyne.htm Without
>>>> that ratio we might as well be talking about the two thousand bucks your
>>>> president Bush save you income tax, great, but it doesn't give Me your
>>>> total tax.
>>>> And if you pay yourself fifty cents an hour?
>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.ethanol-gec.org/winter2000/winter0020.html
>>>>>
>>>>> I cut my own.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>
-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
trying to tell me that it wouldn't be available to increase your
salary?
Form 8109 is the form I use to submit payments, including 940, 941 and
1042. I'm small potatoes, Matt, I only make monthly payments.
On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:48:30 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
<matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>Would you like to contribute to my corporation's Federal tax payment this
>year? Form 8108 I believe, estimated quarterly payments.
>
><Matt Osborn> wrote in message
>news:1id3a253q6o7m8uma8dc87r2o8vkulvrrj@4ax.com.. .
>> The problem is, and always has been, that corporations _never_ pay
>> taxes. Their customers, employees and shareholders pay taxes, but the
>> corporations do not.
>>
>> When a government _says_ that it wants to tax corporations, what they
>> mean is that they want to tax everybody else and the corporation is
>> going to be the tax collector.
>>
>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:53:01 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
>> <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>
>>>So you don't count corporate welfare as subsidies. Riiiiiight.
>>>
>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>news:44A08FEF.20BD224A@***.net...
>>>> No Good. I'm looking for actual subsidies per gallon like this
>>>> fifty four cents a gallon on ethanol
>>>> http://www.ssu.missouri.edu/publicat...97/vandyne.htm Without
>>>> that ratio we might as well be talking about the two thousand bucks your
>>>> president Bush save you income tax, great, but it doesn't give Me your
>>>> total tax.
>>>> And if you pay yourself fifty cents an hour?
>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.ethanol-gec.org/winter2000/winter0020.html
>>>>>
>>>>> I cut my own.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>
-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
#373
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Posts: n/a
Re: Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
To whom would that money go if not submitted to the government? Are
trying to tell me that it wouldn't be available to increase your
salary?
Form 8109 is the form I use to submit payments, including 940, 941 and
1042. I'm small potatoes, Matt, I only make monthly payments.
On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:48:30 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
<matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>Would you like to contribute to my corporation's Federal tax payment this
>year? Form 8108 I believe, estimated quarterly payments.
>
><Matt Osborn> wrote in message
>news:1id3a253q6o7m8uma8dc87r2o8vkulvrrj@4ax.com.. .
>> The problem is, and always has been, that corporations _never_ pay
>> taxes. Their customers, employees and shareholders pay taxes, but the
>> corporations do not.
>>
>> When a government _says_ that it wants to tax corporations, what they
>> mean is that they want to tax everybody else and the corporation is
>> going to be the tax collector.
>>
>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:53:01 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
>> <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>
>>>So you don't count corporate welfare as subsidies. Riiiiiight.
>>>
>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>news:44A08FEF.20BD224A@***.net...
>>>> No Good. I'm looking for actual subsidies per gallon like this
>>>> fifty four cents a gallon on ethanol
>>>> http://www.ssu.missouri.edu/publicat...97/vandyne.htm Without
>>>> that ratio we might as well be talking about the two thousand bucks your
>>>> president Bush save you income tax, great, but it doesn't give Me your
>>>> total tax.
>>>> And if you pay yourself fifty cents an hour?
>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.ethanol-gec.org/winter2000/winter0020.html
>>>>>
>>>>> I cut my own.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>
-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
trying to tell me that it wouldn't be available to increase your
salary?
Form 8109 is the form I use to submit payments, including 940, 941 and
1042. I'm small potatoes, Matt, I only make monthly payments.
On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:48:30 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
<matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>Would you like to contribute to my corporation's Federal tax payment this
>year? Form 8108 I believe, estimated quarterly payments.
>
><Matt Osborn> wrote in message
>news:1id3a253q6o7m8uma8dc87r2o8vkulvrrj@4ax.com.. .
>> The problem is, and always has been, that corporations _never_ pay
>> taxes. Their customers, employees and shareholders pay taxes, but the
>> corporations do not.
>>
>> When a government _says_ that it wants to tax corporations, what they
>> mean is that they want to tax everybody else and the corporation is
>> going to be the tax collector.
>>
>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:53:01 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
>> <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>
>>>So you don't count corporate welfare as subsidies. Riiiiiight.
>>>
>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>news:44A08FEF.20BD224A@***.net...
>>>> No Good. I'm looking for actual subsidies per gallon like this
>>>> fifty four cents a gallon on ethanol
>>>> http://www.ssu.missouri.edu/publicat...97/vandyne.htm Without
>>>> that ratio we might as well be talking about the two thousand bucks your
>>>> president Bush save you income tax, great, but it doesn't give Me your
>>>> total tax.
>>>> And if you pay yourself fifty cents an hour?
>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.ethanol-gec.org/winter2000/winter0020.html
>>>>>
>>>>> I cut my own.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>
-- msosborn at msosborn dot com
#374
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Re: Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
It's still the corporation or business paying the specialized
category of taxes that usually won't translate directly into personal
like income taxes. Most of my life I was a Chevron Dealer and owner
operator truck driver, where I was just glorified tax collector, usually
collecting and writing checks in the millions of dollars, where I just
made sixty in my best years '69 to '86.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt, Osborn wrote:
>
> Can you imagine if the government were to tax contracts between
> individuals? Would the contract pay taxes? Of course not, the
> individual pays taxes.
>
> To answer your question, you sent $150,000 of what could have been
> lower prices on your product, payroll (probably yours), supplies,
> facilities or dividends (probably yours) to the IRS. You are free to
> decide where it came from, but I'll guarantee that the corporation
> isn't going to feel the pain nearly as much as you did.
>
> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com
category of taxes that usually won't translate directly into personal
like income taxes. Most of my life I was a Chevron Dealer and owner
operator truck driver, where I was just glorified tax collector, usually
collecting and writing checks in the millions of dollars, where I just
made sixty in my best years '69 to '86.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt, Osborn wrote:
>
> Can you imagine if the government were to tax contracts between
> individuals? Would the contract pay taxes? Of course not, the
> individual pays taxes.
>
> To answer your question, you sent $150,000 of what could have been
> lower prices on your product, payroll (probably yours), supplies,
> facilities or dividends (probably yours) to the IRS. You are free to
> decide where it came from, but I'll guarantee that the corporation
> isn't going to feel the pain nearly as much as you did.
>
> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com
#375
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Posts: n/a
Re: Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
It's still the corporation or business paying the specialized
category of taxes that usually won't translate directly into personal
like income taxes. Most of my life I was a Chevron Dealer and owner
operator truck driver, where I was just glorified tax collector, usually
collecting and writing checks in the millions of dollars, where I just
made sixty in my best years '69 to '86.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt, Osborn wrote:
>
> Can you imagine if the government were to tax contracts between
> individuals? Would the contract pay taxes? Of course not, the
> individual pays taxes.
>
> To answer your question, you sent $150,000 of what could have been
> lower prices on your product, payroll (probably yours), supplies,
> facilities or dividends (probably yours) to the IRS. You are free to
> decide where it came from, but I'll guarantee that the corporation
> isn't going to feel the pain nearly as much as you did.
>
> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com
category of taxes that usually won't translate directly into personal
like income taxes. Most of my life I was a Chevron Dealer and owner
operator truck driver, where I was just glorified tax collector, usually
collecting and writing checks in the millions of dollars, where I just
made sixty in my best years '69 to '86.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt, Osborn wrote:
>
> Can you imagine if the government were to tax contracts between
> individuals? Would the contract pay taxes? Of course not, the
> individual pays taxes.
>
> To answer your question, you sent $150,000 of what could have been
> lower prices on your product, payroll (probably yours), supplies,
> facilities or dividends (probably yours) to the IRS. You are free to
> decide where it came from, but I'll guarantee that the corporation
> isn't going to feel the pain nearly as much as you did.
>
> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com
#376
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Posts: n/a
Re: Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
It's still the corporation or business paying the specialized
category of taxes that usually won't translate directly into personal
like income taxes. Most of my life I was a Chevron Dealer and owner
operator truck driver, where I was just glorified tax collector, usually
collecting and writing checks in the millions of dollars, where I just
made sixty in my best years '69 to '86.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt, Osborn wrote:
>
> Can you imagine if the government were to tax contracts between
> individuals? Would the contract pay taxes? Of course not, the
> individual pays taxes.
>
> To answer your question, you sent $150,000 of what could have been
> lower prices on your product, payroll (probably yours), supplies,
> facilities or dividends (probably yours) to the IRS. You are free to
> decide where it came from, but I'll guarantee that the corporation
> isn't going to feel the pain nearly as much as you did.
>
> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com
category of taxes that usually won't translate directly into personal
like income taxes. Most of my life I was a Chevron Dealer and owner
operator truck driver, where I was just glorified tax collector, usually
collecting and writing checks in the millions of dollars, where I just
made sixty in my best years '69 to '86.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt, Osborn wrote:
>
> Can you imagine if the government were to tax contracts between
> individuals? Would the contract pay taxes? Of course not, the
> individual pays taxes.
>
> To answer your question, you sent $150,000 of what could have been
> lower prices on your product, payroll (probably yours), supplies,
> facilities or dividends (probably yours) to the IRS. You are free to
> decide where it came from, but I'll guarantee that the corporation
> isn't going to feel the pain nearly as much as you did.
>
> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com
#377
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Re: Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
Then I pay more with my 1040....
<Matt Osborn> wrote in message
news:il24a2hd5hmaacl1dk43mo18sphabjkprd@4ax.com...
> To whom would that money go if not submitted to the government? Are
> trying to tell me that it wouldn't be available to increase your
> salary?
>
> Form 8109 is the form I use to submit payments, including 940, 941 and
> 1042. I'm small potatoes, Matt, I only make monthly payments.
>
>
> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:48:30 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
> <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>
>>Would you like to contribute to my corporation's Federal tax payment this
>>year? Form 8108 I believe, estimated quarterly payments.
>>
>><Matt Osborn> wrote in message
>>news:1id3a253q6o7m8uma8dc87r2o8vkulvrrj@4ax.com. ..
>>> The problem is, and always has been, that corporations _never_ pay
>>> taxes. Their customers, employees and shareholders pay taxes, but the
>>> corporations do not.
>>>
>>> When a government _says_ that it wants to tax corporations, what they
>>> mean is that they want to tax everybody else and the corporation is
>>> going to be the tax collector.
>>>
>>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:53:01 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
>>> <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>So you don't count corporate welfare as subsidies. Riiiiiight.
>>>>
>>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:44A08FEF.20BD224A@***.net...
>>>>> No Good. I'm looking for actual subsidies per gallon like this
>>>>> fifty four cents a gallon on ethanol
>>>>> http://www.ssu.missouri.edu/publicat...97/vandyne.htm
>>>>> Without
>>>>> that ratio we might as well be talking about the two thousand bucks
>>>>> your
>>>>> president Bush save you income tax, great, but it doesn't give Me your
>>>>> total tax.
>>>>> And if you pay yourself fifty cents an hour?
>>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.ethanol-gec.org/winter2000/winter0020.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I cut my own.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>>
>
>
>
> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com
<Matt Osborn> wrote in message
news:il24a2hd5hmaacl1dk43mo18sphabjkprd@4ax.com...
> To whom would that money go if not submitted to the government? Are
> trying to tell me that it wouldn't be available to increase your
> salary?
>
> Form 8109 is the form I use to submit payments, including 940, 941 and
> 1042. I'm small potatoes, Matt, I only make monthly payments.
>
>
> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:48:30 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
> <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>
>>Would you like to contribute to my corporation's Federal tax payment this
>>year? Form 8108 I believe, estimated quarterly payments.
>>
>><Matt Osborn> wrote in message
>>news:1id3a253q6o7m8uma8dc87r2o8vkulvrrj@4ax.com. ..
>>> The problem is, and always has been, that corporations _never_ pay
>>> taxes. Their customers, employees and shareholders pay taxes, but the
>>> corporations do not.
>>>
>>> When a government _says_ that it wants to tax corporations, what they
>>> mean is that they want to tax everybody else and the corporation is
>>> going to be the tax collector.
>>>
>>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:53:01 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
>>> <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>So you don't count corporate welfare as subsidies. Riiiiiight.
>>>>
>>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:44A08FEF.20BD224A@***.net...
>>>>> No Good. I'm looking for actual subsidies per gallon like this
>>>>> fifty four cents a gallon on ethanol
>>>>> http://www.ssu.missouri.edu/publicat...97/vandyne.htm
>>>>> Without
>>>>> that ratio we might as well be talking about the two thousand bucks
>>>>> your
>>>>> president Bush save you income tax, great, but it doesn't give Me your
>>>>> total tax.
>>>>> And if you pay yourself fifty cents an hour?
>>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.ethanol-gec.org/winter2000/winter0020.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I cut my own.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>>
>
>
>
> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com
#378
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Re: Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
Then I pay more with my 1040....
<Matt Osborn> wrote in message
news:il24a2hd5hmaacl1dk43mo18sphabjkprd@4ax.com...
> To whom would that money go if not submitted to the government? Are
> trying to tell me that it wouldn't be available to increase your
> salary?
>
> Form 8109 is the form I use to submit payments, including 940, 941 and
> 1042. I'm small potatoes, Matt, I only make monthly payments.
>
>
> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:48:30 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
> <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>
>>Would you like to contribute to my corporation's Federal tax payment this
>>year? Form 8108 I believe, estimated quarterly payments.
>>
>><Matt Osborn> wrote in message
>>news:1id3a253q6o7m8uma8dc87r2o8vkulvrrj@4ax.com. ..
>>> The problem is, and always has been, that corporations _never_ pay
>>> taxes. Their customers, employees and shareholders pay taxes, but the
>>> corporations do not.
>>>
>>> When a government _says_ that it wants to tax corporations, what they
>>> mean is that they want to tax everybody else and the corporation is
>>> going to be the tax collector.
>>>
>>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:53:01 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
>>> <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>So you don't count corporate welfare as subsidies. Riiiiiight.
>>>>
>>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:44A08FEF.20BD224A@***.net...
>>>>> No Good. I'm looking for actual subsidies per gallon like this
>>>>> fifty four cents a gallon on ethanol
>>>>> http://www.ssu.missouri.edu/publicat...97/vandyne.htm
>>>>> Without
>>>>> that ratio we might as well be talking about the two thousand bucks
>>>>> your
>>>>> president Bush save you income tax, great, but it doesn't give Me your
>>>>> total tax.
>>>>> And if you pay yourself fifty cents an hour?
>>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.ethanol-gec.org/winter2000/winter0020.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I cut my own.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>>
>
>
>
> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com
<Matt Osborn> wrote in message
news:il24a2hd5hmaacl1dk43mo18sphabjkprd@4ax.com...
> To whom would that money go if not submitted to the government? Are
> trying to tell me that it wouldn't be available to increase your
> salary?
>
> Form 8109 is the form I use to submit payments, including 940, 941 and
> 1042. I'm small potatoes, Matt, I only make monthly payments.
>
>
> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:48:30 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
> <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>
>>Would you like to contribute to my corporation's Federal tax payment this
>>year? Form 8108 I believe, estimated quarterly payments.
>>
>><Matt Osborn> wrote in message
>>news:1id3a253q6o7m8uma8dc87r2o8vkulvrrj@4ax.com. ..
>>> The problem is, and always has been, that corporations _never_ pay
>>> taxes. Their customers, employees and shareholders pay taxes, but the
>>> corporations do not.
>>>
>>> When a government _says_ that it wants to tax corporations, what they
>>> mean is that they want to tax everybody else and the corporation is
>>> going to be the tax collector.
>>>
>>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:53:01 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
>>> <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>So you don't count corporate welfare as subsidies. Riiiiiight.
>>>>
>>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:44A08FEF.20BD224A@***.net...
>>>>> No Good. I'm looking for actual subsidies per gallon like this
>>>>> fifty four cents a gallon on ethanol
>>>>> http://www.ssu.missouri.edu/publicat...97/vandyne.htm
>>>>> Without
>>>>> that ratio we might as well be talking about the two thousand bucks
>>>>> your
>>>>> president Bush save you income tax, great, but it doesn't give Me your
>>>>> total tax.
>>>>> And if you pay yourself fifty cents an hour?
>>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.ethanol-gec.org/winter2000/winter0020.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I cut my own.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>>
>
>
>
> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com
#379
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Re: Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
Then I pay more with my 1040....
<Matt Osborn> wrote in message
news:il24a2hd5hmaacl1dk43mo18sphabjkprd@4ax.com...
> To whom would that money go if not submitted to the government? Are
> trying to tell me that it wouldn't be available to increase your
> salary?
>
> Form 8109 is the form I use to submit payments, including 940, 941 and
> 1042. I'm small potatoes, Matt, I only make monthly payments.
>
>
> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:48:30 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
> <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>
>>Would you like to contribute to my corporation's Federal tax payment this
>>year? Form 8108 I believe, estimated quarterly payments.
>>
>><Matt Osborn> wrote in message
>>news:1id3a253q6o7m8uma8dc87r2o8vkulvrrj@4ax.com. ..
>>> The problem is, and always has been, that corporations _never_ pay
>>> taxes. Their customers, employees and shareholders pay taxes, but the
>>> corporations do not.
>>>
>>> When a government _says_ that it wants to tax corporations, what they
>>> mean is that they want to tax everybody else and the corporation is
>>> going to be the tax collector.
>>>
>>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:53:01 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
>>> <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>So you don't count corporate welfare as subsidies. Riiiiiight.
>>>>
>>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:44A08FEF.20BD224A@***.net...
>>>>> No Good. I'm looking for actual subsidies per gallon like this
>>>>> fifty four cents a gallon on ethanol
>>>>> http://www.ssu.missouri.edu/publicat...97/vandyne.htm
>>>>> Without
>>>>> that ratio we might as well be talking about the two thousand bucks
>>>>> your
>>>>> president Bush save you income tax, great, but it doesn't give Me your
>>>>> total tax.
>>>>> And if you pay yourself fifty cents an hour?
>>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.ethanol-gec.org/winter2000/winter0020.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I cut my own.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>>
>
>
>
> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com
<Matt Osborn> wrote in message
news:il24a2hd5hmaacl1dk43mo18sphabjkprd@4ax.com...
> To whom would that money go if not submitted to the government? Are
> trying to tell me that it wouldn't be available to increase your
> salary?
>
> Form 8109 is the form I use to submit payments, including 940, 941 and
> 1042. I'm small potatoes, Matt, I only make monthly payments.
>
>
> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:48:30 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
> <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>
>>Would you like to contribute to my corporation's Federal tax payment this
>>year? Form 8108 I believe, estimated quarterly payments.
>>
>><Matt Osborn> wrote in message
>>news:1id3a253q6o7m8uma8dc87r2o8vkulvrrj@4ax.com. ..
>>> The problem is, and always has been, that corporations _never_ pay
>>> taxes. Their customers, employees and shareholders pay taxes, but the
>>> corporations do not.
>>>
>>> When a government _says_ that it wants to tax corporations, what they
>>> mean is that they want to tax everybody else and the corporation is
>>> going to be the tax collector.
>>>
>>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:53:01 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
>>> <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>So you don't count corporate welfare as subsidies. Riiiiiight.
>>>>
>>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:44A08FEF.20BD224A@***.net...
>>>>> No Good. I'm looking for actual subsidies per gallon like this
>>>>> fifty four cents a gallon on ethanol
>>>>> http://www.ssu.missouri.edu/publicat...97/vandyne.htm
>>>>> Without
>>>>> that ratio we might as well be talking about the two thousand bucks
>>>>> your
>>>>> president Bush save you income tax, great, but it doesn't give Me your
>>>>> total tax.
>>>>> And if you pay yourself fifty cents an hour?
>>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.ethanol-gec.org/winter2000/winter0020.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I cut my own.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com
>>
>
>
>
> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com
#380
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Re: Uh oh, Here We Go Again!
Which is like a drop in the bucket when compared to your State and
Federal payroll taxes, Excise taxes, licenses, Workmen's compensation,
unemployment insurance, over ten employees, start paying for the poorer
states. Ask your bookkeeper.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Then I pay more with my 1040....
Federal payroll taxes, Excise taxes, licenses, Workmen's compensation,
unemployment insurance, over ten employees, start paying for the poorer
states. Ask your bookkeeper.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Then I pay more with my 1040....