Uh oh
#51
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Re: Uh oh
"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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<snip>
>
> I've got a lock plate compressor - it's getting that stupid ring to
> come off once it's exposed that bugs me. I always manage to let it
> pop back into the groove while I'm working around it, or it keeps
> spinning and I can't get it to start out. Basically, a PITA to work
> with.
If you have a circlip tool, that little circlip comes right out.
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Re: Uh oh
"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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<snip>
>
> I've got a lock plate compressor - it's getting that stupid ring to
> come off once it's exposed that bugs me. I always manage to let it
> pop back into the groove while I'm working around it, or it keeps
> spinning and I can't get it to start out. Basically, a PITA to work
> with.
If you have a circlip tool, that little circlip comes right out.
#53
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Re: Uh oh
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 17:45:50 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> LOL!
>
> Ok, well, um, er, ah... the tool the B+E boys use just slams the lockset
> out of the cylinder so then all they have to do is use a flat head
> screwdriver to start it....
Amen! The socket on my column was so loose I used brass shimstock
around the new lock assembly just to tighten it up - AIR, I used 2
wraps of .010 brass it was so loose. The original Jeep ingition set
was the same way, so it wasn't the lock assy that was undersized.
Everything about that tilt assembly was loose - finally disassembled
the whole damned thing to tighten all the screws.
--
Will Honea
wrote:
> LOL!
>
> Ok, well, um, er, ah... the tool the B+E boys use just slams the lockset
> out of the cylinder so then all they have to do is use a flat head
> screwdriver to start it....
Amen! The socket on my column was so loose I used brass shimstock
around the new lock assembly just to tighten it up - AIR, I used 2
wraps of .010 brass it was so loose. The original Jeep ingition set
was the same way, so it wasn't the lock assy that was undersized.
Everything about that tilt assembly was loose - finally disassembled
the whole damned thing to tighten all the screws.
--
Will Honea
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Re: Uh oh
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 17:45:50 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> LOL!
>
> Ok, well, um, er, ah... the tool the B+E boys use just slams the lockset
> out of the cylinder so then all they have to do is use a flat head
> screwdriver to start it....
Amen! The socket on my column was so loose I used brass shimstock
around the new lock assembly just to tighten it up - AIR, I used 2
wraps of .010 brass it was so loose. The original Jeep ingition set
was the same way, so it wasn't the lock assy that was undersized.
Everything about that tilt assembly was loose - finally disassembled
the whole damned thing to tighten all the screws.
--
Will Honea
wrote:
> LOL!
>
> Ok, well, um, er, ah... the tool the B+E boys use just slams the lockset
> out of the cylinder so then all they have to do is use a flat head
> screwdriver to start it....
Amen! The socket on my column was so loose I used brass shimstock
around the new lock assembly just to tighten it up - AIR, I used 2
wraps of .010 brass it was so loose. The original Jeep ingition set
was the same way, so it wasn't the lock assy that was undersized.
Everything about that tilt assembly was loose - finally disassembled
the whole damned thing to tighten all the screws.
--
Will Honea
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Re: Uh oh
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 17:45:50 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> LOL!
>
> Ok, well, um, er, ah... the tool the B+E boys use just slams the lockset
> out of the cylinder so then all they have to do is use a flat head
> screwdriver to start it....
Amen! The socket on my column was so loose I used brass shimstock
around the new lock assembly just to tighten it up - AIR, I used 2
wraps of .010 brass it was so loose. The original Jeep ingition set
was the same way, so it wasn't the lock assy that was undersized.
Everything about that tilt assembly was loose - finally disassembled
the whole damned thing to tighten all the screws.
--
Will Honea
wrote:
> LOL!
>
> Ok, well, um, er, ah... the tool the B+E boys use just slams the lockset
> out of the cylinder so then all they have to do is use a flat head
> screwdriver to start it....
Amen! The socket on my column was so loose I used brass shimstock
around the new lock assembly just to tighten it up - AIR, I used 2
wraps of .010 brass it was so loose. The original Jeep ingition set
was the same way, so it wasn't the lock assy that was undersized.
Everything about that tilt assembly was loose - finally disassembled
the whole damned thing to tighten all the screws.
--
Will Honea
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Re: Uh oh
What is easier, fixing the current one, or replacing the steering column?
"bizbee" <tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:12:58 -0800 in
> <MtKdnaFWk6PhstHfRVn-vg@ez2.net>, "Jeff Strickland"
> <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> graced the world with this thought:
>
>>Mine can start in any position except Locked. Once the key is turned out
>>of
>>the locked position, I can take it out completely and leave it in my
>>pocket
>>until the ignition is turned back to the Locked position again.
>>
>>It is not too difficult to replace the lockset, but you will need to
>>disassemble the steering column in the area. You will need a special tool
>>to
>>get the Lock Plate off to actually get to the lockset. The lockset itself
>>it
>>a standard GM part that you should be able to get from any parts store.
>>The
>>Special Tool is also available, it should cost something under $10, and
>>AutoZone will let you use theirs for free. You will also need the steering
>>wheel puller.
>>
>>
> arrrgh... I forgot about pulling the steering wheel...
>
"bizbee" <tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:12:58 -0800 in
> <MtKdnaFWk6PhstHfRVn-vg@ez2.net>, "Jeff Strickland"
> <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> graced the world with this thought:
>
>>Mine can start in any position except Locked. Once the key is turned out
>>of
>>the locked position, I can take it out completely and leave it in my
>>until the ignition is turned back to the Locked position again.
>>
>>It is not too difficult to replace the lockset, but you will need to
>>disassemble the steering column in the area. You will need a special tool
>>to
>>get the Lock Plate off to actually get to the lockset. The lockset itself
>>it
>>a standard GM part that you should be able to get from any parts store.
>>The
>>Special Tool is also available, it should cost something under $10, and
>>AutoZone will let you use theirs for free. You will also need the steering
>>wheel puller.
>>
>>
> arrrgh... I forgot about pulling the steering wheel...
>
#57
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Re: Uh oh
What is easier, fixing the current one, or replacing the steering column?
"bizbee" <tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:12:58 -0800 in
> <MtKdnaFWk6PhstHfRVn-vg@ez2.net>, "Jeff Strickland"
> <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> graced the world with this thought:
>
>>Mine can start in any position except Locked. Once the key is turned out
>>of
>>the locked position, I can take it out completely and leave it in my
>>pocket
>>until the ignition is turned back to the Locked position again.
>>
>>It is not too difficult to replace the lockset, but you will need to
>>disassemble the steering column in the area. You will need a special tool
>>to
>>get the Lock Plate off to actually get to the lockset. The lockset itself
>>it
>>a standard GM part that you should be able to get from any parts store.
>>The
>>Special Tool is also available, it should cost something under $10, and
>>AutoZone will let you use theirs for free. You will also need the steering
>>wheel puller.
>>
>>
> arrrgh... I forgot about pulling the steering wheel...
>
"bizbee" <tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:12:58 -0800 in
> <MtKdnaFWk6PhstHfRVn-vg@ez2.net>, "Jeff Strickland"
> <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> graced the world with this thought:
>
>>Mine can start in any position except Locked. Once the key is turned out
>>of
>>the locked position, I can take it out completely and leave it in my
>>until the ignition is turned back to the Locked position again.
>>
>>It is not too difficult to replace the lockset, but you will need to
>>disassemble the steering column in the area. You will need a special tool
>>to
>>get the Lock Plate off to actually get to the lockset. The lockset itself
>>it
>>a standard GM part that you should be able to get from any parts store.
>>The
>>Special Tool is also available, it should cost something under $10, and
>>AutoZone will let you use theirs for free. You will also need the steering
>>wheel puller.
>>
>>
> arrrgh... I forgot about pulling the steering wheel...
>
#58
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Re: Uh oh
What is easier, fixing the current one, or replacing the steering column?
"bizbee" <tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:12:58 -0800 in
> <MtKdnaFWk6PhstHfRVn-vg@ez2.net>, "Jeff Strickland"
> <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> graced the world with this thought:
>
>>Mine can start in any position except Locked. Once the key is turned out
>>of
>>the locked position, I can take it out completely and leave it in my
>>pocket
>>until the ignition is turned back to the Locked position again.
>>
>>It is not too difficult to replace the lockset, but you will need to
>>disassemble the steering column in the area. You will need a special tool
>>to
>>get the Lock Plate off to actually get to the lockset. The lockset itself
>>it
>>a standard GM part that you should be able to get from any parts store.
>>The
>>Special Tool is also available, it should cost something under $10, and
>>AutoZone will let you use theirs for free. You will also need the steering
>>wheel puller.
>>
>>
> arrrgh... I forgot about pulling the steering wheel...
>
"bizbee" <tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:SpW2e.2797$x4.2481@newsread1.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:12:58 -0800 in
> <MtKdnaFWk6PhstHfRVn-vg@ez2.net>, "Jeff Strickland"
> <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> graced the world with this thought:
>
>>Mine can start in any position except Locked. Once the key is turned out
>>of
>>the locked position, I can take it out completely and leave it in my
>>until the ignition is turned back to the Locked position again.
>>
>>It is not too difficult to replace the lockset, but you will need to
>>disassemble the steering column in the area. You will need a special tool
>>to
>>get the Lock Plate off to actually get to the lockset. The lockset itself
>>it
>>a standard GM part that you should be able to get from any parts store.
>>The
>>Special Tool is also available, it should cost something under $10, and
>>AutoZone will let you use theirs for free. You will also need the steering
>>wheel puller.
>>
>>
> arrrgh... I forgot about pulling the steering wheel...
>
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Re: Uh oh
In article <424D88CE.D679997B@sympatico.ca>,
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>claudel wrote:
>>
>> In article <JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-JdJgYL64vfLl@anon.none.net>,
>> Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 05:22:27 UTC claudel@bolt.sonic.net (claudel)
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article <JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-rM5dNWN3puRO@anon.none.net>,
>> >> Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 18:30:50 UTC "Jeff Strickland"
>> >> ><spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "bizbee" <tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:SpW2e.2797$x4.2481@newsread1.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>> >> >> > On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:12:58 -0800 in
>> >> >> > <MtKdnaFWk6PhstHfRVn-vg@ez2.net>, "Jeff Strickland"
>> >> >> > <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> graced the world with this thought:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > >Mine can start in any position except Locked. Once the key is turned out
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> > >the locked position, I can take it out completely and leave it in my
>> >> >> pocket
>> >> >> > >until the ignition is turned back to the Locked position again.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >It is not too difficult to replace the lockset, but you will need to
>> >> >> > >disassemble the steering column in the area. You will need a special tool
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> > >get the Lock Plate off to actually get to the lockset. The lockset itself
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> > >a standard GM part that you should be able to get from any parts store.
>> >> >> The
>> >> >> > >Special Tool is also available, it should cost something under $10, and
>> >> >> > >AutoZone will let you use theirs for free. You will also need the
>> >> >> steering
>> >> >> > >wheel puller.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > arrrgh... I forgot about pulling the steering wheel...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Well, that is the easy part ...
>> >> >
>> >> >Yep, getting that damned locking ring out of the slot is what always
>> >> >gives me fits - never have found the right sort of expander to make it
>> >> >easy.
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >Will Honea
>> >>
>> >> You need the lock plate compressor as the previous poster stated.
>> >>
>> >> It's easy to remove the plate with it. It worke the opposite of the
>> >> wheel puller. You attach the center shaft to the threads on the
>> >> steering column after the steering wheel is off, tighten down the
>> >> compressor nut to expose the lock ring, pry the lock ring off
>> >> with a nail or an icepick and the lock plate slides right off.
>> >> Nearly impossible without the proper tool. To reinstall the lockplate
>> >> compress it with the tool and push the lock ring back into the slot.
>> >>
>> >> I just replaced the turn signal switch in my CJ last week so I went
>> >> thru the whole drill. It's relatively painless with the right tools.
>> >
>> >I've got a lock plate compressor - it's getting that stupid ring to
>> >come off once it's exposed that bugs me. I always manage to let it
>> >pop back into the groove while I'm working around it, or it keeps
>> >spinning and I can't get it to start out. Basically, a PITA to work
>> >with.
>> >
>>
>> It is a pain.
>>
>> Make sure that you crank the lock plate down as far as it will go.
>> You should be able to see a bit of the metal below the slot that the
>> retaining ring sits it. I just used a nail to pry the ring out on mine.
>> The ring was fairly malleable and bent out of round and I was able
>> to run the nail around the slot and pry the ring all the way out.
>> I tried at first to expand the ring with needle nose pliers but they
>> kept slipping off. The ring was out of round when I finally got it
>> off but I was able to bend it back into a reasonable shape and reuse
>> it. WHen you put it back together the lock plate will force the ring
>> back into the slot when you release the compression tool.
>> On mine the ring was glued into the slot with enough crud so that it
>> didn't spin. You may need a second set of hands to block it from
>> spinning long enough to get one end above the slot
>>
>> On mine, the lockset comes out when I have the key in the "off"
>> position. I just take it with me. The steering wheel is locked
>> and I don't think that it is possible to unlock it without the
>> lockset in the steering column. Also, I have a Grant removable
>> wheel for the really dodgy moments.
>>
>> Good Luck.
>>
>> Claude
>
>LOL!
>
>Ok, well, um, er, ah... the tool the B+E boys use just slams the lockset
>out of the cylinder so then all they have to do is use a flat head
>screwdriver to start it....
>
Shows what I know.
You can trip the lock pin with a screwdriver?
Claude
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>claudel wrote:
>>
>> In article <JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-JdJgYL64vfLl@anon.none.net>,
>> Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 05:22:27 UTC claudel@bolt.sonic.net (claudel)
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article <JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-rM5dNWN3puRO@anon.none.net>,
>> >> Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 18:30:50 UTC "Jeff Strickland"
>> >> ><spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "bizbee" <tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:SpW2e.2797$x4.2481@newsread1.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>> >> >> > On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:12:58 -0800 in
>> >> >> > <MtKdnaFWk6PhstHfRVn-vg@ez2.net>, "Jeff Strickland"
>> >> >> > <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> graced the world with this thought:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > >Mine can start in any position except Locked. Once the key is turned out
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> > >the locked position, I can take it out completely and leave it in my
>> >> >> > >until the ignition is turned back to the Locked position again.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >It is not too difficult to replace the lockset, but you will need to
>> >> >> > >disassemble the steering column in the area. You will need a special tool
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> > >get the Lock Plate off to actually get to the lockset. The lockset itself
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> > >a standard GM part that you should be able to get from any parts store.
>> >> >> The
>> >> >> > >Special Tool is also available, it should cost something under $10, and
>> >> >> > >AutoZone will let you use theirs for free. You will also need the
>> >> >> steering
>> >> >> > >wheel puller.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > arrrgh... I forgot about pulling the steering wheel...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Well, that is the easy part ...
>> >> >
>> >> >Yep, getting that damned locking ring out of the slot is what always
>> >> >gives me fits - never have found the right sort of expander to make it
>> >> >easy.
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >Will Honea
>> >>
>> >> You need the lock plate compressor as the previous poster stated.
>> >>
>> >> It's easy to remove the plate with it. It worke the opposite of the
>> >> wheel puller. You attach the center shaft to the threads on the
>> >> steering column after the steering wheel is off, tighten down the
>> >> compressor nut to expose the lock ring, pry the lock ring off
>> >> with a nail or an icepick and the lock plate slides right off.
>> >> Nearly impossible without the proper tool. To reinstall the lockplate
>> >> compress it with the tool and push the lock ring back into the slot.
>> >>
>> >> I just replaced the turn signal switch in my CJ last week so I went
>> >> thru the whole drill. It's relatively painless with the right tools.
>> >
>> >I've got a lock plate compressor - it's getting that stupid ring to
>> >come off once it's exposed that bugs me. I always manage to let it
>> >pop back into the groove while I'm working around it, or it keeps
>> >spinning and I can't get it to start out. Basically, a PITA to work
>> >with.
>> >
>>
>> It is a pain.
>>
>> Make sure that you crank the lock plate down as far as it will go.
>> You should be able to see a bit of the metal below the slot that the
>> retaining ring sits it. I just used a nail to pry the ring out on mine.
>> The ring was fairly malleable and bent out of round and I was able
>> to run the nail around the slot and pry the ring all the way out.
>> I tried at first to expand the ring with needle nose pliers but they
>> kept slipping off. The ring was out of round when I finally got it
>> off but I was able to bend it back into a reasonable shape and reuse
>> it. WHen you put it back together the lock plate will force the ring
>> back into the slot when you release the compression tool.
>> On mine the ring was glued into the slot with enough crud so that it
>> didn't spin. You may need a second set of hands to block it from
>> spinning long enough to get one end above the slot
>>
>> On mine, the lockset comes out when I have the key in the "off"
>> position. I just take it with me. The steering wheel is locked
>> and I don't think that it is possible to unlock it without the
>> lockset in the steering column. Also, I have a Grant removable
>> wheel for the really dodgy moments.
>>
>> Good Luck.
>>
>> Claude
>
>LOL!
>
>Ok, well, um, er, ah... the tool the B+E boys use just slams the lockset
>out of the cylinder so then all they have to do is use a flat head
>screwdriver to start it....
>
Shows what I know.
You can trip the lock pin with a screwdriver?
Claude
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Re: Uh oh
In article <424D88CE.D679997B@sympatico.ca>,
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>claudel wrote:
>>
>> In article <JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-JdJgYL64vfLl@anon.none.net>,
>> Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 05:22:27 UTC claudel@bolt.sonic.net (claudel)
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article <JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-rM5dNWN3puRO@anon.none.net>,
>> >> Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 18:30:50 UTC "Jeff Strickland"
>> >> ><spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "bizbee" <tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:SpW2e.2797$x4.2481@newsread1.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>> >> >> > On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:12:58 -0800 in
>> >> >> > <MtKdnaFWk6PhstHfRVn-vg@ez2.net>, "Jeff Strickland"
>> >> >> > <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> graced the world with this thought:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > >Mine can start in any position except Locked. Once the key is turned out
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> > >the locked position, I can take it out completely and leave it in my
>> >> >> pocket
>> >> >> > >until the ignition is turned back to the Locked position again.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >It is not too difficult to replace the lockset, but you will need to
>> >> >> > >disassemble the steering column in the area. You will need a special tool
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> > >get the Lock Plate off to actually get to the lockset. The lockset itself
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> > >a standard GM part that you should be able to get from any parts store.
>> >> >> The
>> >> >> > >Special Tool is also available, it should cost something under $10, and
>> >> >> > >AutoZone will let you use theirs for free. You will also need the
>> >> >> steering
>> >> >> > >wheel puller.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > arrrgh... I forgot about pulling the steering wheel...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Well, that is the easy part ...
>> >> >
>> >> >Yep, getting that damned locking ring out of the slot is what always
>> >> >gives me fits - never have found the right sort of expander to make it
>> >> >easy.
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >Will Honea
>> >>
>> >> You need the lock plate compressor as the previous poster stated.
>> >>
>> >> It's easy to remove the plate with it. It worke the opposite of the
>> >> wheel puller. You attach the center shaft to the threads on the
>> >> steering column after the steering wheel is off, tighten down the
>> >> compressor nut to expose the lock ring, pry the lock ring off
>> >> with a nail or an icepick and the lock plate slides right off.
>> >> Nearly impossible without the proper tool. To reinstall the lockplate
>> >> compress it with the tool and push the lock ring back into the slot.
>> >>
>> >> I just replaced the turn signal switch in my CJ last week so I went
>> >> thru the whole drill. It's relatively painless with the right tools.
>> >
>> >I've got a lock plate compressor - it's getting that stupid ring to
>> >come off once it's exposed that bugs me. I always manage to let it
>> >pop back into the groove while I'm working around it, or it keeps
>> >spinning and I can't get it to start out. Basically, a PITA to work
>> >with.
>> >
>>
>> It is a pain.
>>
>> Make sure that you crank the lock plate down as far as it will go.
>> You should be able to see a bit of the metal below the slot that the
>> retaining ring sits it. I just used a nail to pry the ring out on mine.
>> The ring was fairly malleable and bent out of round and I was able
>> to run the nail around the slot and pry the ring all the way out.
>> I tried at first to expand the ring with needle nose pliers but they
>> kept slipping off. The ring was out of round when I finally got it
>> off but I was able to bend it back into a reasonable shape and reuse
>> it. WHen you put it back together the lock plate will force the ring
>> back into the slot when you release the compression tool.
>> On mine the ring was glued into the slot with enough crud so that it
>> didn't spin. You may need a second set of hands to block it from
>> spinning long enough to get one end above the slot
>>
>> On mine, the lockset comes out when I have the key in the "off"
>> position. I just take it with me. The steering wheel is locked
>> and I don't think that it is possible to unlock it without the
>> lockset in the steering column. Also, I have a Grant removable
>> wheel for the really dodgy moments.
>>
>> Good Luck.
>>
>> Claude
>
>LOL!
>
>Ok, well, um, er, ah... the tool the B+E boys use just slams the lockset
>out of the cylinder so then all they have to do is use a flat head
>screwdriver to start it....
>
Shows what I know.
You can trip the lock pin with a screwdriver?
Claude
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>claudel wrote:
>>
>> In article <JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-JdJgYL64vfLl@anon.none.net>,
>> Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 05:22:27 UTC claudel@bolt.sonic.net (claudel)
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article <JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-rM5dNWN3puRO@anon.none.net>,
>> >> Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 18:30:50 UTC "Jeff Strickland"
>> >> ><spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "bizbee" <tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:SpW2e.2797$x4.2481@newsread1.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>> >> >> > On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:12:58 -0800 in
>> >> >> > <MtKdnaFWk6PhstHfRVn-vg@ez2.net>, "Jeff Strickland"
>> >> >> > <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> graced the world with this thought:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > >Mine can start in any position except Locked. Once the key is turned out
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> > >the locked position, I can take it out completely and leave it in my
>> >> >> > >until the ignition is turned back to the Locked position again.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >It is not too difficult to replace the lockset, but you will need to
>> >> >> > >disassemble the steering column in the area. You will need a special tool
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> > >get the Lock Plate off to actually get to the lockset. The lockset itself
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> > >a standard GM part that you should be able to get from any parts store.
>> >> >> The
>> >> >> > >Special Tool is also available, it should cost something under $10, and
>> >> >> > >AutoZone will let you use theirs for free. You will also need the
>> >> >> steering
>> >> >> > >wheel puller.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > arrrgh... I forgot about pulling the steering wheel...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Well, that is the easy part ...
>> >> >
>> >> >Yep, getting that damned locking ring out of the slot is what always
>> >> >gives me fits - never have found the right sort of expander to make it
>> >> >easy.
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >Will Honea
>> >>
>> >> You need the lock plate compressor as the previous poster stated.
>> >>
>> >> It's easy to remove the plate with it. It worke the opposite of the
>> >> wheel puller. You attach the center shaft to the threads on the
>> >> steering column after the steering wheel is off, tighten down the
>> >> compressor nut to expose the lock ring, pry the lock ring off
>> >> with a nail or an icepick and the lock plate slides right off.
>> >> Nearly impossible without the proper tool. To reinstall the lockplate
>> >> compress it with the tool and push the lock ring back into the slot.
>> >>
>> >> I just replaced the turn signal switch in my CJ last week so I went
>> >> thru the whole drill. It's relatively painless with the right tools.
>> >
>> >I've got a lock plate compressor - it's getting that stupid ring to
>> >come off once it's exposed that bugs me. I always manage to let it
>> >pop back into the groove while I'm working around it, or it keeps
>> >spinning and I can't get it to start out. Basically, a PITA to work
>> >with.
>> >
>>
>> It is a pain.
>>
>> Make sure that you crank the lock plate down as far as it will go.
>> You should be able to see a bit of the metal below the slot that the
>> retaining ring sits it. I just used a nail to pry the ring out on mine.
>> The ring was fairly malleable and bent out of round and I was able
>> to run the nail around the slot and pry the ring all the way out.
>> I tried at first to expand the ring with needle nose pliers but they
>> kept slipping off. The ring was out of round when I finally got it
>> off but I was able to bend it back into a reasonable shape and reuse
>> it. WHen you put it back together the lock plate will force the ring
>> back into the slot when you release the compression tool.
>> On mine the ring was glued into the slot with enough crud so that it
>> didn't spin. You may need a second set of hands to block it from
>> spinning long enough to get one end above the slot
>>
>> On mine, the lockset comes out when I have the key in the "off"
>> position. I just take it with me. The steering wheel is locked
>> and I don't think that it is possible to unlock it without the
>> lockset in the steering column. Also, I have a Grant removable
>> wheel for the really dodgy moments.
>>
>> Good Luck.
>>
>> Claude
>
>LOL!
>
>Ok, well, um, er, ah... the tool the B+E boys use just slams the lockset
>out of the cylinder so then all they have to do is use a flat head
>screwdriver to start it....
>
Shows what I know.
You can trip the lock pin with a screwdriver?
Claude