Tyre question - slippery slope has begun
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Re: Tyre question - slippery slope has begun
Steve wrote:
> TW wrote:
>> 4) Which speedo gear would I need to recalibrate my speedo with 32 or 33
>> inch tyres. I am more inclined towards 33s as almost everybody else is
>> running at least 33s here and following those setups is not fun with
>> my bum rubbing on even pebbles in stock tyres.
>
> With my BFG 33s (actual 32.8"), 4.10s and a 34 tooth gear, my speedo
> clocks about 1 km/h faster than my GPS at 100 km/h. Pretty darn close.
Correction: checked my log and I actually have a 35 tooth speedo gear.
Steve
> TW wrote:
>> 4) Which speedo gear would I need to recalibrate my speedo with 32 or 33
>> inch tyres. I am more inclined towards 33s as almost everybody else is
>> running at least 33s here and following those setups is not fun with
>> my bum rubbing on even pebbles in stock tyres.
>
> With my BFG 33s (actual 32.8"), 4.10s and a 34 tooth gear, my speedo
> clocks about 1 km/h faster than my GPS at 100 km/h. Pretty darn close.
Correction: checked my log and I actually have a 35 tooth speedo gear.
Steve
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Re: Tyre question - slippery slope has begun
"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > Sorry, I have to take that back. XJ and YJ D30 gears are reverse cut.
> > Not compatible with your TJ.
> >
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/axle/d30.html
> >
> > Steve
>
> ... but the good news is that a complete XJ D30 housing is a desirable
> bolt in upgrade for your TJ:
>
> http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axle/tjhpd30/
> http://homepage.mac.com/rv6a/hpd30.html
>
> Around here XJs had D44 rears from '87-90 and then only rarely. Maybe
> they're more common on Japanese models. If not, look for WJ, ZJ, and
> Isuzu donors.
>
> Steve
Thanks Steve. I'll keep an eye out and see if something comes up.
Otherwise, I'll just have to live with some new gears when I get the diff
locks! :-)
TW
news:n5Jqc.44018$Np3.1826480@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> >
> > Sorry, I have to take that back. XJ and YJ D30 gears are reverse cut.
> > Not compatible with your TJ.
> >
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/axle/d30.html
> >
> > Steve
>
> ... but the good news is that a complete XJ D30 housing is a desirable
> bolt in upgrade for your TJ:
>
> http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axle/tjhpd30/
> http://homepage.mac.com/rv6a/hpd30.html
>
> Around here XJs had D44 rears from '87-90 and then only rarely. Maybe
> they're more common on Japanese models. If not, look for WJ, ZJ, and
> Isuzu donors.
>
> Steve
Thanks Steve. I'll keep an eye out and see if something comes up.
Otherwise, I'll just have to live with some new gears when I get the diff
locks! :-)
TW
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Re: Tyre question - slippery slope has begun
"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > Sorry, I have to take that back. XJ and YJ D30 gears are reverse cut.
> > Not compatible with your TJ.
> >
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/axle/d30.html
> >
> > Steve
>
> ... but the good news is that a complete XJ D30 housing is a desirable
> bolt in upgrade for your TJ:
>
> http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axle/tjhpd30/
> http://homepage.mac.com/rv6a/hpd30.html
>
> Around here XJs had D44 rears from '87-90 and then only rarely. Maybe
> they're more common on Japanese models. If not, look for WJ, ZJ, and
> Isuzu donors.
>
> Steve
Thanks Steve. I'll keep an eye out and see if something comes up.
Otherwise, I'll just have to live with some new gears when I get the diff
locks! :-)
TW
news:n5Jqc.44018$Np3.1826480@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> >
> > Sorry, I have to take that back. XJ and YJ D30 gears are reverse cut.
> > Not compatible with your TJ.
> >
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/axle/d30.html
> >
> > Steve
>
> ... but the good news is that a complete XJ D30 housing is a desirable
> bolt in upgrade for your TJ:
>
> http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axle/tjhpd30/
> http://homepage.mac.com/rv6a/hpd30.html
>
> Around here XJs had D44 rears from '87-90 and then only rarely. Maybe
> they're more common on Japanese models. If not, look for WJ, ZJ, and
> Isuzu donors.
>
> Steve
Thanks Steve. I'll keep an eye out and see if something comes up.
Otherwise, I'll just have to live with some new gears when I get the diff
locks! :-)
TW
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Re: Tyre question - slippery slope has begun
"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
news:n5Jqc.44018$Np3.1826480@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> >
> > Sorry, I have to take that back. XJ and YJ D30 gears are reverse cut.
> > Not compatible with your TJ.
> >
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/axle/d30.html
> >
> > Steve
>
> ... but the good news is that a complete XJ D30 housing is a desirable
> bolt in upgrade for your TJ:
>
> http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axle/tjhpd30/
> http://homepage.mac.com/rv6a/hpd30.html
>
> Around here XJs had D44 rears from '87-90 and then only rarely. Maybe
> they're more common on Japanese models. If not, look for WJ, ZJ, and
> Isuzu donors.
>
> Steve
Thanks Steve. I'll keep an eye out and see if something comes up.
Otherwise, I'll just have to live with some new gears when I get the diff
locks! :-)
TW
news:n5Jqc.44018$Np3.1826480@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> >
> > Sorry, I have to take that back. XJ and YJ D30 gears are reverse cut.
> > Not compatible with your TJ.
> >
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/axle/d30.html
> >
> > Steve
>
> ... but the good news is that a complete XJ D30 housing is a desirable
> bolt in upgrade for your TJ:
>
> http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axle/tjhpd30/
> http://homepage.mac.com/rv6a/hpd30.html
>
> Around here XJs had D44 rears from '87-90 and then only rarely. Maybe
> they're more common on Japanese models. If not, look for WJ, ZJ, and
> Isuzu donors.
>
> Steve
Thanks Steve. I'll keep an eye out and see if something comes up.
Otherwise, I'll just have to live with some new gears when I get the diff
locks! :-)
TW
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Re: Tyre question - slippery slope has begun
"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > Sorry, I have to take that back. XJ and YJ D30 gears are reverse cut.
> > Not compatible with your TJ.
> >
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/axle/d30.html
> >
> > Steve
>
> ... but the good news is that a complete XJ D30 housing is a desirable
> bolt in upgrade for your TJ:
>
> http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axle/tjhpd30/
> http://homepage.mac.com/rv6a/hpd30.html
>
> Around here XJs had D44 rears from '87-90 and then only rarely. Maybe
> they're more common on Japanese models. If not, look for WJ, ZJ, and
> Isuzu donors.
>
> Steve
Thanks Steve. I'll keep an eye out and see if something comes up.
Otherwise, I'll just have to live with some new gears when I get the diff
locks! :-)
TW
news:n5Jqc.44018$Np3.1826480@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> >
> > Sorry, I have to take that back. XJ and YJ D30 gears are reverse cut.
> > Not compatible with your TJ.
> >
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/axle/d30.html
> >
> > Steve
>
> ... but the good news is that a complete XJ D30 housing is a desirable
> bolt in upgrade for your TJ:
>
> http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axle/tjhpd30/
> http://homepage.mac.com/rv6a/hpd30.html
>
> Around here XJs had D44 rears from '87-90 and then only rarely. Maybe
> they're more common on Japanese models. If not, look for WJ, ZJ, and
> Isuzu donors.
>
> Steve
Thanks Steve. I'll keep an eye out and see if something comes up.
Otherwise, I'll just have to live with some new gears when I get the diff
locks! :-)
TW
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Re: Tyre question - slippery slope has begun
"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > With my BFG 33s (actual 32.8"), 4.10s and a 34 tooth gear, my speedo
> > clocks about 1 km/h faster than my GPS at 100 km/h. Pretty darn close.
>
> Correction: checked my log and I actually have a 35 tooth speedo gear.
>
> Steve
I found some links on the net and for 31 or 32 inch tyres with 3.07
gearing, I'll need a 27 tooth speedo gear. With 33s, I'll need a 26 tooth
gear. This ofcourse will change again when I regear. The only bummer is
that we have keep our speedos calibrated to pass local Warrant of Fitness
requirements (safety checks). Good thing is, speedo gears are cheap.
TW
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> >
> > With my BFG 33s (actual 32.8"), 4.10s and a 34 tooth gear, my speedo
> > clocks about 1 km/h faster than my GPS at 100 km/h. Pretty darn close.
>
> Correction: checked my log and I actually have a 35 tooth speedo gear.
>
> Steve
I found some links on the net and for 31 or 32 inch tyres with 3.07
gearing, I'll need a 27 tooth speedo gear. With 33s, I'll need a 26 tooth
gear. This ofcourse will change again when I regear. The only bummer is
that we have keep our speedos calibrated to pass local Warrant of Fitness
requirements (safety checks). Good thing is, speedo gears are cheap.
TW
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Re: Tyre question - slippery slope has begun
"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > With my BFG 33s (actual 32.8"), 4.10s and a 34 tooth gear, my speedo
> > clocks about 1 km/h faster than my GPS at 100 km/h. Pretty darn close.
>
> Correction: checked my log and I actually have a 35 tooth speedo gear.
>
> Steve
I found some links on the net and for 31 or 32 inch tyres with 3.07
gearing, I'll need a 27 tooth speedo gear. With 33s, I'll need a 26 tooth
gear. This ofcourse will change again when I regear. The only bummer is
that we have keep our speedos calibrated to pass local Warrant of Fitness
requirements (safety checks). Good thing is, speedo gears are cheap.
TW
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> >
> > With my BFG 33s (actual 32.8"), 4.10s and a 34 tooth gear, my speedo
> > clocks about 1 km/h faster than my GPS at 100 km/h. Pretty darn close.
>
> Correction: checked my log and I actually have a 35 tooth speedo gear.
>
> Steve
I found some links on the net and for 31 or 32 inch tyres with 3.07
gearing, I'll need a 27 tooth speedo gear. With 33s, I'll need a 26 tooth
gear. This ofcourse will change again when I regear. The only bummer is
that we have keep our speedos calibrated to pass local Warrant of Fitness
requirements (safety checks). Good thing is, speedo gears are cheap.
TW
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Re: Tyre question - slippery slope has begun
"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > With my BFG 33s (actual 32.8"), 4.10s and a 34 tooth gear, my speedo
> > clocks about 1 km/h faster than my GPS at 100 km/h. Pretty darn close.
>
> Correction: checked my log and I actually have a 35 tooth speedo gear.
>
> Steve
I found some links on the net and for 31 or 32 inch tyres with 3.07
gearing, I'll need a 27 tooth speedo gear. With 33s, I'll need a 26 tooth
gear. This ofcourse will change again when I regear. The only bummer is
that we have keep our speedos calibrated to pass local Warrant of Fitness
requirements (safety checks). Good thing is, speedo gears are cheap.
TW
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> >
> > With my BFG 33s (actual 32.8"), 4.10s and a 34 tooth gear, my speedo
> > clocks about 1 km/h faster than my GPS at 100 km/h. Pretty darn close.
>
> Correction: checked my log and I actually have a 35 tooth speedo gear.
>
> Steve
I found some links on the net and for 31 or 32 inch tyres with 3.07
gearing, I'll need a 27 tooth speedo gear. With 33s, I'll need a 26 tooth
gear. This ofcourse will change again when I regear. The only bummer is
that we have keep our speedos calibrated to pass local Warrant of Fitness
requirements (safety checks). Good thing is, speedo gears are cheap.
TW
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Re: Tyre question - slippery slope has begun
"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > With my BFG 33s (actual 32.8"), 4.10s and a 34 tooth gear, my speedo
> > clocks about 1 km/h faster than my GPS at 100 km/h. Pretty darn close.
>
> Correction: checked my log and I actually have a 35 tooth speedo gear.
>
> Steve
I found some links on the net and for 31 or 32 inch tyres with 3.07
gearing, I'll need a 27 tooth speedo gear. With 33s, I'll need a 26 tooth
gear. This ofcourse will change again when I regear. The only bummer is
that we have keep our speedos calibrated to pass local Warrant of Fitness
requirements (safety checks). Good thing is, speedo gears are cheap.
TW
news:xnVqc.43486$kc2.652466@nnrp1.uunet.ca...
> >
> > With my BFG 33s (actual 32.8"), 4.10s and a 34 tooth gear, my speedo
> > clocks about 1 km/h faster than my GPS at 100 km/h. Pretty darn close.
>
> Correction: checked my log and I actually have a 35 tooth speedo gear.
>
> Steve
I found some links on the net and for 31 or 32 inch tyres with 3.07
gearing, I'll need a 27 tooth speedo gear. With 33s, I'll need a 26 tooth
gear. This ofcourse will change again when I regear. The only bummer is
that we have keep our speedos calibrated to pass local Warrant of Fitness
requirements (safety checks). Good thing is, speedo gears are cheap.
TW
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Re: Tyre question - slippery slope has begun
"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
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> Sorry, but I have to say I think you need to recheck the validity of
> this statement. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you
> could get the Dana44 rear option seperately from the upgraded diff
> gearing. And in 2001, the upgraded diff gearing would've been a 3.73:1
> ratio.
>
> So, I would venture to say either you do have 3.07:1 diff gearing as
> you said, but with a Dana35c rearend, or you have the Dana44 rear as
> you said, but actually have 3.73:1 diff gearing (which will definitely
> be nicer when you decide on which larger tires to go with).
>
Well, I am in New Zealand and TJs exported to our local market all had rear
Dana 44s. I have the build order and it confirms its a Dana 44. I have
matched the shape with photos on the net, its a Dana 44. Now for the
gearing, well I thought too that Dana 44s came with 3.73, but I have done
the tyre rotation test and it works out to 3.07. Also, the label on the
pumpkin says 3.07. So does the build order. Thus, I believe my statement
is correct. This may be a weird combination, but that is how they were
sent to the New Zealand market.
Thanks for your reply. It must be a Jeep thing....
TW
news:47b769ae.0405190657.138a6196@posting.google.c om...
> Sorry, but I have to say I think you need to recheck the validity of
> this statement. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you
> could get the Dana44 rear option seperately from the upgraded diff
> gearing. And in 2001, the upgraded diff gearing would've been a 3.73:1
> ratio.
>
> So, I would venture to say either you do have 3.07:1 diff gearing as
> you said, but with a Dana35c rearend, or you have the Dana44 rear as
> you said, but actually have 3.73:1 diff gearing (which will definitely
> be nicer when you decide on which larger tires to go with).
>
Well, I am in New Zealand and TJs exported to our local market all had rear
Dana 44s. I have the build order and it confirms its a Dana 44. I have
matched the shape with photos on the net, its a Dana 44. Now for the
gearing, well I thought too that Dana 44s came with 3.73, but I have done
the tyre rotation test and it works out to 3.07. Also, the label on the
pumpkin says 3.07. So does the build order. Thus, I believe my statement
is correct. This may be a weird combination, but that is how they were
sent to the New Zealand market.
Thanks for your reply. It must be a Jeep thing....
TW