Bob

Sorry, but I have to say I think you need to recheck the validity of
this statement. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you
could get the Dana44 rear option seperately from the upgraded diff
gearing. And in 2001, the upgraded diff gearing would've been a 3.73:1
ratio.

So, I would venture to say either you do have 3.07:1 diff gearing as
you said, but with a Dana35c rearend, or you have the Dana44 rear as
you said, but actually have 3.73:1 diff gearing (which will definitely
be nicer when you decide on which larger tires to go with).


"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message news:<c8cqgf$pqa$1@news.wave.co.nz>...
> I have a very stock 2001 TJ 4.0L with automatic transmission and 3.07 diff
> gearing with Dana 44 rear.

Bob

Sorry, but I have to say I think you need to recheck the validity of
this statement. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you
could get the Dana44 rear option seperately from the upgraded diff
gearing. And in 2001, the upgraded diff gearing would've been a 3.73:1
ratio.

So, I would venture to say either you do have 3.07:1 diff gearing as
you said, but with a Dana35c rearend, or you have the Dana44 rear as
you said, but actually have 3.73:1 diff gearing (which will definitely
be nicer when you decide on which larger tires to go with).


"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message news:<c8cqgf$pqa$1@news.wave.co.nz>...
> I have a very stock 2001 TJ 4.0L with automatic transmission and 3.07 diff
> gearing with Dana 44 rear.

Bob

Sorry, but I have to say I think you need to recheck the validity of
this statement. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you
could get the Dana44 rear option seperately from the upgraded diff
gearing. And in 2001, the upgraded diff gearing would've been a 3.73:1
ratio.

So, I would venture to say either you do have 3.07:1 diff gearing as
you said, but with a Dana35c rearend, or you have the Dana44 rear as
you said, but actually have 3.73:1 diff gearing (which will definitely
be nicer when you decide on which larger tires to go with).


"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message news:<c8cqgf$pqa$1@news.wave.co.nz>...
> I have a very stock 2001 TJ 4.0L with automatic transmission and 3.07 diff
> gearing with Dana 44 rear.

CRWLR

"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:c8f2r4$c4l$3@news.wave.co.nz...
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:10ale2chnj2ns70@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> >
> > Well, the Mud Terrains are the way to go. I was going to suggest you
> > consider the All Terrains, they actually are a better all around tire
for
> > dry conditions, but you said the conditions at your house are seldom
dry,
> so
> > the MTs will work better. The ATs fill with mud whereas the MTs will
> clean
> > themselves, theoretically.
> >
>
> I have ATs currently, but they are not cutting it anymore.
>
> >
> > I think the max you can put under a TJ without lift is a 31. I think
that
> > the size that will work best for you will be a 32, max. I know several
> guys
> > with larger tires than I have (I have the BFG Mud Terrain in a 32 x
> 11.50) -
> > BTW, can you get tires in the "inch sizes", 32 x 11.50, 31 x 10.50,
> etc.? -
> > and they can't do much more than I can do.
> >
>
> Inch sizes (or floatation sizes) are only in 15 inch rim sizes. All 16
> inch rim sizes are metric. I have a lot more options in finding a
> combination of width and height in metric in NZ for some reason. What do
> you think of running 265/75R16. They will be 32 inch equivalents. I
don't
> want to go too wide because in NZ we have to keep all the tyre tread
within
> the fenders/flares. With wider tyres, I will have to change the flares to
> stay street legal. I think with stock wheels and 265mm width, I should be
> wihtin the fender flares.
>
The 265/75 is a 32" equivelent, but 32 x <what>.

I guess it doesn't matter because you are going to run into other
restrictions if you go too wide. I think the 32s are a great choice, they
offer lots of ability for virtually everything, and the few times when you
actually need the larger tires, well you can get your strap out.

I think you can use the 32s for a long time without doing other stuff, like
lift and gears.


> >
> > You are going to run into gearing issues soon no matter which size you
> > choose, but since you have the automatic trans, you might not notice.
All
> > things considered, gearing and lack of lift, I think you will be best
> with
> > the 31" tire options. You can put any available width (in a 31, and most
> > widths in a 32) on the standard rims.
> >
> >
>
> How about 10 or 20mm coils spacers all around and then running 32 inch
> tyres? I am sure the old springs are now starting to sag a little bit
too.
> The only thing is, I don't want to go to 31 inch tyres now and then
wanting
> to go to 32/33 after the lift within next few months. At the moment,
tyres
> are on special and I can get any size BFG Muds at the same price, cool.
If
> I can get away with 32 or 33 now for 2/3 months, I can get the lift and
> complete the set-up (or so the saying goes...... ...)
>

That should work. I think you will find that you will end up with 50mm
spacers, but the idea is the same.



> Thanks for your comments, I appreciate it very much.
> TW
>
You're welcome.

CRWLR

"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:c8f2r4$c4l$3@news.wave.co.nz...
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:10ale2chnj2ns70@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> >
> > Well, the Mud Terrains are the way to go. I was going to suggest you
> > consider the All Terrains, they actually are a better all around tire
for
> > dry conditions, but you said the conditions at your house are seldom
dry,
> so
> > the MTs will work better. The ATs fill with mud whereas the MTs will
> clean
> > themselves, theoretically.
> >
>
> I have ATs currently, but they are not cutting it anymore.
>
> >
> > I think the max you can put under a TJ without lift is a 31. I think
that
> > the size that will work best for you will be a 32, max. I know several
> guys
> > with larger tires than I have (I have the BFG Mud Terrain in a 32 x
> 11.50) -
> > BTW, can you get tires in the "inch sizes", 32 x 11.50, 31 x 10.50,
> etc.? -
> > and they can't do much more than I can do.
> >
>
> Inch sizes (or floatation sizes) are only in 15 inch rim sizes. All 16
> inch rim sizes are metric. I have a lot more options in finding a
> combination of width and height in metric in NZ for some reason. What do
> you think of running 265/75R16. They will be 32 inch equivalents. I
don't
> want to go too wide because in NZ we have to keep all the tyre tread
within
> the fenders/flares. With wider tyres, I will have to change the flares to
> stay street legal. I think with stock wheels and 265mm width, I should be
> wihtin the fender flares.
>
The 265/75 is a 32" equivelent, but 32 x <what>.

I guess it doesn't matter because you are going to run into other
restrictions if you go too wide. I think the 32s are a great choice, they
offer lots of ability for virtually everything, and the few times when you
actually need the larger tires, well you can get your strap out.

I think you can use the 32s for a long time without doing other stuff, like
lift and gears.


> >
> > You are going to run into gearing issues soon no matter which size you
> > choose, but since you have the automatic trans, you might not notice.
All
> > things considered, gearing and lack of lift, I think you will be best
> with
> > the 31" tire options. You can put any available width (in a 31, and most
> > widths in a 32) on the standard rims.
> >
> >
>
> How about 10 or 20mm coils spacers all around and then running 32 inch
> tyres? I am sure the old springs are now starting to sag a little bit
too.
> The only thing is, I don't want to go to 31 inch tyres now and then
wanting
> to go to 32/33 after the lift within next few months. At the moment,
tyres
> are on special and I can get any size BFG Muds at the same price, cool.
If
> I can get away with 32 or 33 now for 2/3 months, I can get the lift and
> complete the set-up (or so the saying goes...... ...)
>

That should work. I think you will find that you will end up with 50mm
spacers, but the idea is the same.



> Thanks for your comments, I appreciate it very much.
> TW
>
You're welcome.

CRWLR

"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:c8f2r4$c4l$3@news.wave.co.nz...
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:10ale2chnj2ns70@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> >
> > Well, the Mud Terrains are the way to go. I was going to suggest you
> > consider the All Terrains, they actually are a better all around tire
for
> > dry conditions, but you said the conditions at your house are seldom
dry,
> so
> > the MTs will work better. The ATs fill with mud whereas the MTs will
> clean
> > themselves, theoretically.
> >
>
> I have ATs currently, but they are not cutting it anymore.
>
> >
> > I think the max you can put under a TJ without lift is a 31. I think
that
> > the size that will work best for you will be a 32, max. I know several
> guys
> > with larger tires than I have (I have the BFG Mud Terrain in a 32 x
> 11.50) -
> > BTW, can you get tires in the "inch sizes", 32 x 11.50, 31 x 10.50,
> etc.? -
> > and they can't do much more than I can do.
> >
>
> Inch sizes (or floatation sizes) are only in 15 inch rim sizes. All 16
> inch rim sizes are metric. I have a lot more options in finding a
> combination of width and height in metric in NZ for some reason. What do
> you think of running 265/75R16. They will be 32 inch equivalents. I
don't
> want to go too wide because in NZ we have to keep all the tyre tread
within
> the fenders/flares. With wider tyres, I will have to change the flares to
> stay street legal. I think with stock wheels and 265mm width, I should be
> wihtin the fender flares.
>
The 265/75 is a 32" equivelent, but 32 x <what>.

I guess it doesn't matter because you are going to run into other
restrictions if you go too wide. I think the 32s are a great choice, they
offer lots of ability for virtually everything, and the few times when you
actually need the larger tires, well you can get your strap out.

I think you can use the 32s for a long time without doing other stuff, like
lift and gears.


> >
> > You are going to run into gearing issues soon no matter which size you
> > choose, but since you have the automatic trans, you might not notice.
All
> > things considered, gearing and lack of lift, I think you will be best
> with
> > the 31" tire options. You can put any available width (in a 31, and most
> > widths in a 32) on the standard rims.
> >
> >
>
> How about 10 or 20mm coils spacers all around and then running 32 inch
> tyres? I am sure the old springs are now starting to sag a little bit
too.
> The only thing is, I don't want to go to 31 inch tyres now and then
wanting
> to go to 32/33 after the lift within next few months. At the moment,
tyres
> are on special and I can get any size BFG Muds at the same price, cool.
If
> I can get away with 32 or 33 now for 2/3 months, I can get the lift and
> complete the set-up (or so the saying goes...... ...)
>

That should work. I think you will find that you will end up with 50mm
spacers, but the idea is the same.



> Thanks for your comments, I appreciate it very much.
> TW
>
You're welcome.

CRWLR

"TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message
news:c8f2r4$c4l$3@news.wave.co.nz...
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:10ale2chnj2ns70@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> >
> > Well, the Mud Terrains are the way to go. I was going to suggest you
> > consider the All Terrains, they actually are a better all around tire
for
> > dry conditions, but you said the conditions at your house are seldom
dry,
> so
> > the MTs will work better. The ATs fill with mud whereas the MTs will
> clean
> > themselves, theoretically.
> >
>
> I have ATs currently, but they are not cutting it anymore.
>
> >
> > I think the max you can put under a TJ without lift is a 31. I think
that
> > the size that will work best for you will be a 32, max. I know several
> guys
> > with larger tires than I have (I have the BFG Mud Terrain in a 32 x
> 11.50) -
> > BTW, can you get tires in the "inch sizes", 32 x 11.50, 31 x 10.50,
> etc.? -
> > and they can't do much more than I can do.
> >
>
> Inch sizes (or floatation sizes) are only in 15 inch rim sizes. All 16
> inch rim sizes are metric. I have a lot more options in finding a
> combination of width and height in metric in NZ for some reason. What do
> you think of running 265/75R16. They will be 32 inch equivalents. I
don't
> want to go too wide because in NZ we have to keep all the tyre tread
within
> the fenders/flares. With wider tyres, I will have to change the flares to
> stay street legal. I think with stock wheels and 265mm width, I should be
> wihtin the fender flares.
>
The 265/75 is a 32" equivelent, but 32 x <what>.

I guess it doesn't matter because you are going to run into other
restrictions if you go too wide. I think the 32s are a great choice, they
offer lots of ability for virtually everything, and the few times when you
actually need the larger tires, well you can get your strap out.

I think you can use the 32s for a long time without doing other stuff, like
lift and gears.


> >
> > You are going to run into gearing issues soon no matter which size you
> > choose, but since you have the automatic trans, you might not notice.
All
> > things considered, gearing and lack of lift, I think you will be best
> with
> > the 31" tire options. You can put any available width (in a 31, and most
> > widths in a 32) on the standard rims.
> >
> >
>
> How about 10 or 20mm coils spacers all around and then running 32 inch
> tyres? I am sure the old springs are now starting to sag a little bit
too.
> The only thing is, I don't want to go to 31 inch tyres now and then
wanting
> to go to 32/33 after the lift within next few months. At the moment,
tyres
> are on special and I can get any size BFG Muds at the same price, cool.
If
> I can get away with 32 or 33 now for 2/3 months, I can get the lift and
> complete the set-up (or so the saying goes...... ...)
>

That should work. I think you will find that you will end up with 50mm
spacers, but the idea is the same.



> Thanks for your comments, I appreciate it very much.
> TW
>
You're welcome.

Steve

Steve wrote:
> TW wrote:
>> 4) Which speedo gear would I need to recalibrate my speedo with 32 or 33
>> inch tyres. I am more inclined towards 33s as almost everybody else is
>> running at least 33s here and following those setups is not fun with
>> my bum rubbing on even pebbles in stock tyres.
>
> With my BFG 33s (actual 32.8"), 4.10s and a 34 tooth gear, my speedo
> clocks about 1 km/h faster than my GPS at 100 km/h. Pretty darn close.

Correction: checked my log and I actually have a 35 tooth speedo gear.

Steve

Steve

Steve wrote:
> TW wrote:
>> 4) Which speedo gear would I need to recalibrate my speedo with 32 or 33
>> inch tyres. I am more inclined towards 33s as almost everybody else is
>> running at least 33s here and following those setups is not fun with
>> my bum rubbing on even pebbles in stock tyres.
>
> With my BFG 33s (actual 32.8"), 4.10s and a 34 tooth gear, my speedo
> clocks about 1 km/h faster than my GPS at 100 km/h. Pretty darn close.

Correction: checked my log and I actually have a 35 tooth speedo gear.

Steve

Steve

Steve wrote:
> TW wrote:
>> 4) Which speedo gear would I need to recalibrate my speedo with 32 or 33
>> inch tyres. I am more inclined towards 33s as almost everybody else is
>> running at least 33s here and following those setups is not fun with
>> my bum rubbing on even pebbles in stock tyres.
>
> With my BFG 33s (actual 32.8"), 4.10s and a 34 tooth gear, my speedo
> clocks about 1 km/h faster than my GPS at 100 km/h. Pretty darn close.

Correction: checked my log and I actually have a 35 tooth speedo gear.

Steve