Phil Rynn

Jo Bo,
Good deal. It sounds like you are fine just using the Dexron III/Mercon,
based on what the owners manual says. As for Chilton/Haynes I never take
anything printed on their pages as gospel. I've encountered numerous
mistakes and omissions in both over the years. Take care,
Phil
"Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:HDTRc.145929$fv.68915@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> Phil.
>
> I just found what some one told me. On the back cover of the "1996 Jeep
> Cherokee Owners Manual" it says:
> "2.5L=Mopar ATF Plus #7176 Do not use Dexron III Mercon unless recommended
> fluid is not available.
> 4.0L=Mopar auto transmission fluid #4773590 or equivalent labled Dexron
III
> Mercon Fluid".
>
> So I think (hope) using Dexron III Mercon in my 96 4.0L was correct. It
has the
> AW4 transmission. My Haynes for 1984-2000 calls for Mercon for AW4 and
Dexron
> for 727 & 999 transmissions and makes no mention of the #7176 Chrysler
ATF+3.
> So they're all wet!
>
> Thanks for your time
> JoBo.
>
> "Phil Rynn" <rynnphNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hJSRc.27578$n7.25034@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> > Jo Bo
> > I'm pretty sure that you will require ATF+3 (with the MOPAR 7176
> > additive). Most Chrysler transmissions from 1994 on require this fluid.
> > Any Dodge/Jeep/Chrysler/Mitsubishi/some Hyundai cars from this time
period
> > onward will most likely require this fluid. To be sure, you can check
with
> > the service department at any Jeep dealer. Just call and ask what type
of
> > fluid the transmission requires. I have the shop manual for my 94 JGC
and
> > it lists that fluid as a requirement. I also have the Haynes manual for
JGC
> > '93 thru '00 and it states that ATF+3 is required on all '94 and above.
My
> > guess is that Jeep Cherokee would be similar, but I don't know if it has
the
> > same transmission as the JGC. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > PS: I used to have a 95 Mitsubishi Galant that also required ATF+3, but
> > when I first asked at the auto parts store if they had the right fluid,
I
> > was told that I could put any Mercron/Dexron II/III fluid in. This is
not
> > correct so I would be wary of trusting statements made by an auto parts
> > salesman.
> >
> > "Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:2hRRc.145258$fv.140962@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > Phil.
> > >
> > > I have a 96 charokee with 4L engine and 4 speed auto shift. I asked
what
> > fluid
> > > to use and get answers from "what does it say on the stick" to read
the
> > owners
> > > book. The book says Dexron and the stick says "Trans Oil". What oil is
> > correct
> > > for this transmission?
> > >
> > > JoBo
> > >
> > > "Phil Rynn" <rynnphNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:w8MRc.26792$n7.5960@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> > > > It is possible it could be 'bad' oil since ATF breaks down very
quickly
> > if
> > > > it is overtemped. But like you said if it was changed 5-6 months
ago,
> > it is
> > > > not likely unless the jeep is driven hard or under heavy loads.
> > Definitely
> > > > re check the fluid level like you said. Make sure the jeep is
level,
> > and
> > > > the engine is idling at operating temperature, with transmission in
> > either P
> > > > or N (whichever the owner's manual states - If I would have to guess
I'd
> > say
> > > > Park, since that is what my 94 JGC requires) - some automatic
trannys
> > > > require the fluid to be checked in P, some in N -- you will get very
> > > > different readings if you check it in the wrong setting, and it is
> > possible
> > > > to get a full reading when the transmission is actually a quart or
more
> > low.
> > > >
> > > > One other thought. Make sure it is the correct type of transmission
> > fluid.
> > > > Most Chrysler automatic trannys require ATF+3 for Chrysler
> > transmissions.
> > > > This fluid has a MOPAR additive MS 7176 that is required to preserve
the
> > > > clutch linings in the transmission. If you use regular
Dexron/Mercon II
> > or
> > > > III, it will eat away your clutch linings and ultimately cause the
> > > > transmission to fail. This is a common mistake if the Jeep is taken
to
> > such
> > > > places as Jiffy Lube for a transmission fluid change. I would check
the
> > > > receipt from the last time your fluid was changed and make sure that
it
> > > > states the correct fluid was used. This is very important!!!
> > > >
> > > > Sorry this is a little long, but I hope it helps!
> > > >
> > > > Good Luck!
> > > >
> > > > Phil
> > > >
> > > > "James Nipper" <jnipper@fdn.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:2nc43jFumn05U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks to JObo and Bill. We are going to check the fluid more
> > > > > carefully, and make very certain it is full. It was changed 5-6
> > months
> > > > ago,
> > > > > so I don't think it is "bad" oil.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --James--
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Phil Rynn

Jo Bo,
Good deal. It sounds like you are fine just using the Dexron III/Mercon,
based on what the owners manual says. As for Chilton/Haynes I never take
anything printed on their pages as gospel. I've encountered numerous
mistakes and omissions in both over the years. Take care,
Phil
"Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:HDTRc.145929$fv.68915@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> Phil.
>
> I just found what some one told me. On the back cover of the "1996 Jeep
> Cherokee Owners Manual" it says:
> "2.5L=Mopar ATF Plus #7176 Do not use Dexron III Mercon unless recommended
> fluid is not available.
> 4.0L=Mopar auto transmission fluid #4773590 or equivalent labled Dexron
III
> Mercon Fluid".
>
> So I think (hope) using Dexron III Mercon in my 96 4.0L was correct. It
has the
> AW4 transmission. My Haynes for 1984-2000 calls for Mercon for AW4 and
Dexron
> for 727 & 999 transmissions and makes no mention of the #7176 Chrysler
ATF+3.
> So they're all wet!
>
> Thanks for your time
> JoBo.
>
> "Phil Rynn" <rynnphNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hJSRc.27578$n7.25034@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> > Jo Bo
> > I'm pretty sure that you will require ATF+3 (with the MOPAR 7176
> > additive). Most Chrysler transmissions from 1994 on require this fluid.
> > Any Dodge/Jeep/Chrysler/Mitsubishi/some Hyundai cars from this time
period
> > onward will most likely require this fluid. To be sure, you can check
with
> > the service department at any Jeep dealer. Just call and ask what type
of
> > fluid the transmission requires. I have the shop manual for my 94 JGC
and
> > it lists that fluid as a requirement. I also have the Haynes manual for
JGC
> > '93 thru '00 and it states that ATF+3 is required on all '94 and above.
My
> > guess is that Jeep Cherokee would be similar, but I don't know if it has
the
> > same transmission as the JGC. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > PS: I used to have a 95 Mitsubishi Galant that also required ATF+3, but
> > when I first asked at the auto parts store if they had the right fluid,
I
> > was told that I could put any Mercron/Dexron II/III fluid in. This is
not
> > correct so I would be wary of trusting statements made by an auto parts
> > salesman.
> >
> > "Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:2hRRc.145258$fv.140962@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > Phil.
> > >
> > > I have a 96 charokee with 4L engine and 4 speed auto shift. I asked
what
> > fluid
> > > to use and get answers from "what does it say on the stick" to read
the
> > owners
> > > book. The book says Dexron and the stick says "Trans Oil". What oil is
> > correct
> > > for this transmission?
> > >
> > > JoBo
> > >
> > > "Phil Rynn" <rynnphNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:w8MRc.26792$n7.5960@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> > > > It is possible it could be 'bad' oil since ATF breaks down very
quickly
> > if
> > > > it is overtemped. But like you said if it was changed 5-6 months
ago,
> > it is
> > > > not likely unless the jeep is driven hard or under heavy loads.
> > Definitely
> > > > re check the fluid level like you said. Make sure the jeep is
level,
> > and
> > > > the engine is idling at operating temperature, with transmission in
> > either P
> > > > or N (whichever the owner's manual states - If I would have to guess
I'd
> > say
> > > > Park, since that is what my 94 JGC requires) - some automatic
trannys
> > > > require the fluid to be checked in P, some in N -- you will get very
> > > > different readings if you check it in the wrong setting, and it is
> > possible
> > > > to get a full reading when the transmission is actually a quart or
more
> > low.
> > > >
> > > > One other thought. Make sure it is the correct type of transmission
> > fluid.
> > > > Most Chrysler automatic trannys require ATF+3 for Chrysler
> > transmissions.
> > > > This fluid has a MOPAR additive MS 7176 that is required to preserve
the
> > > > clutch linings in the transmission. If you use regular
Dexron/Mercon II
> > or
> > > > III, it will eat away your clutch linings and ultimately cause the
> > > > transmission to fail. This is a common mistake if the Jeep is taken
to
> > such
> > > > places as Jiffy Lube for a transmission fluid change. I would check
the
> > > > receipt from the last time your fluid was changed and make sure that
it
> > > > states the correct fluid was used. This is very important!!!
> > > >
> > > > Sorry this is a little long, but I hope it helps!
> > > >
> > > > Good Luck!
> > > >
> > > > Phil
> > > >
> > > > "James Nipper" <jnipper@fdn.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:2nc43jFumn05U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks to JObo and Bill. We are going to check the fluid more
> > > > > carefully, and make very certain it is full. It was changed 5-6
> > months
> > > > ago,
> > > > > so I don't think it is "bad" oil.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --James--
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Phil Rynn

Jo Bo,
Good deal. It sounds like you are fine just using the Dexron III/Mercon,
based on what the owners manual says. As for Chilton/Haynes I never take
anything printed on their pages as gospel. I've encountered numerous
mistakes and omissions in both over the years. Take care,
Phil
"Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:HDTRc.145929$fv.68915@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> Phil.
>
> I just found what some one told me. On the back cover of the "1996 Jeep
> Cherokee Owners Manual" it says:
> "2.5L=Mopar ATF Plus #7176 Do not use Dexron III Mercon unless recommended
> fluid is not available.
> 4.0L=Mopar auto transmission fluid #4773590 or equivalent labled Dexron
III
> Mercon Fluid".
>
> So I think (hope) using Dexron III Mercon in my 96 4.0L was correct. It
has the
> AW4 transmission. My Haynes for 1984-2000 calls for Mercon for AW4 and
Dexron
> for 727 & 999 transmissions and makes no mention of the #7176 Chrysler
ATF+3.
> So they're all wet!
>
> Thanks for your time
> JoBo.
>
> "Phil Rynn" <rynnphNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hJSRc.27578$n7.25034@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> > Jo Bo
> > I'm pretty sure that you will require ATF+3 (with the MOPAR 7176
> > additive). Most Chrysler transmissions from 1994 on require this fluid.
> > Any Dodge/Jeep/Chrysler/Mitsubishi/some Hyundai cars from this time
period
> > onward will most likely require this fluid. To be sure, you can check
with
> > the service department at any Jeep dealer. Just call and ask what type
of
> > fluid the transmission requires. I have the shop manual for my 94 JGC
and
> > it lists that fluid as a requirement. I also have the Haynes manual for
JGC
> > '93 thru '00 and it states that ATF+3 is required on all '94 and above.
My
> > guess is that Jeep Cherokee would be similar, but I don't know if it has
the
> > same transmission as the JGC. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > PS: I used to have a 95 Mitsubishi Galant that also required ATF+3, but
> > when I first asked at the auto parts store if they had the right fluid,
I
> > was told that I could put any Mercron/Dexron II/III fluid in. This is
not
> > correct so I would be wary of trusting statements made by an auto parts
> > salesman.
> >
> > "Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:2hRRc.145258$fv.140962@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > Phil.
> > >
> > > I have a 96 charokee with 4L engine and 4 speed auto shift. I asked
what
> > fluid
> > > to use and get answers from "what does it say on the stick" to read
the
> > owners
> > > book. The book says Dexron and the stick says "Trans Oil". What oil is
> > correct
> > > for this transmission?
> > >
> > > JoBo
> > >
> > > "Phil Rynn" <rynnphNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:w8MRc.26792$n7.5960@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> > > > It is possible it could be 'bad' oil since ATF breaks down very
quickly
> > if
> > > > it is overtemped. But like you said if it was changed 5-6 months
ago,
> > it is
> > > > not likely unless the jeep is driven hard or under heavy loads.
> > Definitely
> > > > re check the fluid level like you said. Make sure the jeep is
level,
> > and
> > > > the engine is idling at operating temperature, with transmission in
> > either P
> > > > or N (whichever the owner's manual states - If I would have to guess
I'd
> > say
> > > > Park, since that is what my 94 JGC requires) - some automatic
trannys
> > > > require the fluid to be checked in P, some in N -- you will get very
> > > > different readings if you check it in the wrong setting, and it is
> > possible
> > > > to get a full reading when the transmission is actually a quart or
more
> > low.
> > > >
> > > > One other thought. Make sure it is the correct type of transmission
> > fluid.
> > > > Most Chrysler automatic trannys require ATF+3 for Chrysler
> > transmissions.
> > > > This fluid has a MOPAR additive MS 7176 that is required to preserve
the
> > > > clutch linings in the transmission. If you use regular
Dexron/Mercon II
> > or
> > > > III, it will eat away your clutch linings and ultimately cause the
> > > > transmission to fail. This is a common mistake if the Jeep is taken
to
> > such
> > > > places as Jiffy Lube for a transmission fluid change. I would check
the
> > > > receipt from the last time your fluid was changed and make sure that
it
> > > > states the correct fluid was used. This is very important!!!
> > > >
> > > > Sorry this is a little long, but I hope it helps!
> > > >
> > > > Good Luck!
> > > >
> > > > Phil
> > > >
> > > > "James Nipper" <jnipper@fdn.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:2nc43jFumn05U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks to JObo and Bill. We are going to check the fluid more
> > > > > carefully, and make very certain it is full. It was changed 5-6
> > months
> > > > ago,
> > > > > so I don't think it is "bad" oil.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --James--
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>