Jo Bo

Phil.

I have a 96 charokee with 4L engine and 4 speed auto shift. I asked what fluid
to use and get answers from "what does it say on the stick" to read the owners
book. The book says Dexron and the stick says "Trans Oil". What oil is correct
for this transmission?

JoBo

"Phil Rynn" <rynnphNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:w8MRc.26792$n7.5960@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> It is possible it could be 'bad' oil since ATF breaks down very quickly if
> it is overtemped. But like you said if it was changed 5-6 months ago, it is
> not likely unless the jeep is driven hard or under heavy loads. Definitely
> re check the fluid level like you said. Make sure the jeep is level, and
> the engine is idling at operating temperature, with transmission in either P
> or N (whichever the owner's manual states - If I would have to guess I'd say
> Park, since that is what my 94 JGC requires) - some automatic trannys
> require the fluid to be checked in P, some in N -- you will get very
> different readings if you check it in the wrong setting, and it is possible
> to get a full reading when the transmission is actually a quart or more low.
>
> One other thought. Make sure it is the correct type of transmission fluid.
> Most Chrysler automatic trannys require ATF+3 for Chrysler transmissions.
> This fluid has a MOPAR additive MS 7176 that is required to preserve the
> clutch linings in the transmission. If you use regular Dexron/Mercon II or
> III, it will eat away your clutch linings and ultimately cause the
> transmission to fail. This is a common mistake if the Jeep is taken to such
> places as Jiffy Lube for a transmission fluid change. I would check the
> receipt from the last time your fluid was changed and make sure that it
> states the correct fluid was used. This is very important!!!
>
> Sorry this is a little long, but I hope it helps!
>
> Good Luck!
>
> Phil
>
> "James Nipper" <jnipper@fdn.com> wrote in message
> news:2nc43jFumn05U1@uni-berlin.de...
> >
> >
> > Thanks to JObo and Bill. We are going to check the fluid more
> > carefully, and make very certain it is full. It was changed 5-6 months
> ago,
> > so I don't think it is "bad" oil.
> >
> >
> > --James--
> >
> >
>
>
>

Phil Rynn

Jo Bo
I'm pretty sure that you will require ATF+3 (with the MOPAR 7176
additive). Most Chrysler transmissions from 1994 on require this fluid.
Any Dodge/Jeep/Chrysler/Mitsubishi/some Hyundai cars from this time period
onward will most likely require this fluid. To be sure, you can check with
the service department at any Jeep dealer. Just call and ask what type of
fluid the transmission requires. I have the shop manual for my 94 JGC and
it lists that fluid as a requirement. I also have the Haynes manual for JGC
'93 thru '00 and it states that ATF+3 is required on all '94 and above. My
guess is that Jeep Cherokee would be similar, but I don't know if it has the
same transmission as the JGC. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

Phil

PS: I used to have a 95 Mitsubishi Galant that also required ATF+3, but
when I first asked at the auto parts store if they had the right fluid, I
was told that I could put any Mercron/Dexron II/III fluid in. This is not
correct so I would be wary of trusting statements made by an auto parts
salesman.

"Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:2hRRc.145258$fv.140962@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> Phil.
>
> I have a 96 charokee with 4L engine and 4 speed auto shift. I asked what
fluid
> to use and get answers from "what does it say on the stick" to read the
owners
> book. The book says Dexron and the stick says "Trans Oil". What oil is
correct
> for this transmission?
>
> JoBo
>
> "Phil Rynn" <rynnphNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:w8MRc.26792$n7.5960@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> > It is possible it could be 'bad' oil since ATF breaks down very quickly
if
> > it is overtemped. But like you said if it was changed 5-6 months ago,
it is
> > not likely unless the jeep is driven hard or under heavy loads.
Definitely
> > re check the fluid level like you said. Make sure the jeep is level,
and
> > the engine is idling at operating temperature, with transmission in
either P
> > or N (whichever the owner's manual states - If I would have to guess I'd
say
> > Park, since that is what my 94 JGC requires) - some automatic trannys
> > require the fluid to be checked in P, some in N -- you will get very
> > different readings if you check it in the wrong setting, and it is
possible
> > to get a full reading when the transmission is actually a quart or more
low.
> >
> > One other thought. Make sure it is the correct type of transmission
fluid.
> > Most Chrysler automatic trannys require ATF+3 for Chrysler
transmissions.
> > This fluid has a MOPAR additive MS 7176 that is required to preserve the
> > clutch linings in the transmission. If you use regular Dexron/Mercon II
or
> > III, it will eat away your clutch linings and ultimately cause the
> > transmission to fail. This is a common mistake if the Jeep is taken to
such
> > places as Jiffy Lube for a transmission fluid change. I would check the
> > receipt from the last time your fluid was changed and make sure that it
> > states the correct fluid was used. This is very important!!!
> >
> > Sorry this is a little long, but I hope it helps!
> >
> > Good Luck!
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > "James Nipper" <jnipper@fdn.com> wrote in message
> > news:2nc43jFumn05U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks to JObo and Bill. We are going to check the fluid more
> > > carefully, and make very certain it is full. It was changed 5-6
months
> > ago,
> > > so I don't think it is "bad" oil.
> > >
> > >
> > > --James--
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Phil Rynn

Jo Bo
I'm pretty sure that you will require ATF+3 (with the MOPAR 7176
additive). Most Chrysler transmissions from 1994 on require this fluid.
Any Dodge/Jeep/Chrysler/Mitsubishi/some Hyundai cars from this time period
onward will most likely require this fluid. To be sure, you can check with
the service department at any Jeep dealer. Just call and ask what type of
fluid the transmission requires. I have the shop manual for my 94 JGC and
it lists that fluid as a requirement. I also have the Haynes manual for JGC
'93 thru '00 and it states that ATF+3 is required on all '94 and above. My
guess is that Jeep Cherokee would be similar, but I don't know if it has the
same transmission as the JGC. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

Phil

PS: I used to have a 95 Mitsubishi Galant that also required ATF+3, but
when I first asked at the auto parts store if they had the right fluid, I
was told that I could put any Mercron/Dexron II/III fluid in. This is not
correct so I would be wary of trusting statements made by an auto parts
salesman.

"Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:2hRRc.145258$fv.140962@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> Phil.
>
> I have a 96 charokee with 4L engine and 4 speed auto shift. I asked what
fluid
> to use and get answers from "what does it say on the stick" to read the
owners
> book. The book says Dexron and the stick says "Trans Oil". What oil is
correct
> for this transmission?
>
> JoBo
>
> "Phil Rynn" <rynnphNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:w8MRc.26792$n7.5960@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> > It is possible it could be 'bad' oil since ATF breaks down very quickly
if
> > it is overtemped. But like you said if it was changed 5-6 months ago,
it is
> > not likely unless the jeep is driven hard or under heavy loads.
Definitely
> > re check the fluid level like you said. Make sure the jeep is level,
and
> > the engine is idling at operating temperature, with transmission in
either P
> > or N (whichever the owner's manual states - If I would have to guess I'd
say
> > Park, since that is what my 94 JGC requires) - some automatic trannys
> > require the fluid to be checked in P, some in N -- you will get very
> > different readings if you check it in the wrong setting, and it is
possible
> > to get a full reading when the transmission is actually a quart or more
low.
> >
> > One other thought. Make sure it is the correct type of transmission
fluid.
> > Most Chrysler automatic trannys require ATF+3 for Chrysler
transmissions.
> > This fluid has a MOPAR additive MS 7176 that is required to preserve the
> > clutch linings in the transmission. If you use regular Dexron/Mercon II
or
> > III, it will eat away your clutch linings and ultimately cause the
> > transmission to fail. This is a common mistake if the Jeep is taken to
such
> > places as Jiffy Lube for a transmission fluid change. I would check the
> > receipt from the last time your fluid was changed and make sure that it
> > states the correct fluid was used. This is very important!!!
> >
> > Sorry this is a little long, but I hope it helps!
> >
> > Good Luck!
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > "James Nipper" <jnipper@fdn.com> wrote in message
> > news:2nc43jFumn05U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks to JObo and Bill. We are going to check the fluid more
> > > carefully, and make very certain it is full. It was changed 5-6
months
> > ago,
> > > so I don't think it is "bad" oil.
> > >
> > >
> > > --James--
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Phil Rynn

Jo Bo
I'm pretty sure that you will require ATF+3 (with the MOPAR 7176
additive). Most Chrysler transmissions from 1994 on require this fluid.
Any Dodge/Jeep/Chrysler/Mitsubishi/some Hyundai cars from this time period
onward will most likely require this fluid. To be sure, you can check with
the service department at any Jeep dealer. Just call and ask what type of
fluid the transmission requires. I have the shop manual for my 94 JGC and
it lists that fluid as a requirement. I also have the Haynes manual for JGC
'93 thru '00 and it states that ATF+3 is required on all '94 and above. My
guess is that Jeep Cherokee would be similar, but I don't know if it has the
same transmission as the JGC. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

Phil

PS: I used to have a 95 Mitsubishi Galant that also required ATF+3, but
when I first asked at the auto parts store if they had the right fluid, I
was told that I could put any Mercron/Dexron II/III fluid in. This is not
correct so I would be wary of trusting statements made by an auto parts
salesman.

"Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:2hRRc.145258$fv.140962@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> Phil.
>
> I have a 96 charokee with 4L engine and 4 speed auto shift. I asked what
fluid
> to use and get answers from "what does it say on the stick" to read the
owners
> book. The book says Dexron and the stick says "Trans Oil". What oil is
correct
> for this transmission?
>
> JoBo
>
> "Phil Rynn" <rynnphNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:w8MRc.26792$n7.5960@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> > It is possible it could be 'bad' oil since ATF breaks down very quickly
if
> > it is overtemped. But like you said if it was changed 5-6 months ago,
it is
> > not likely unless the jeep is driven hard or under heavy loads.
Definitely
> > re check the fluid level like you said. Make sure the jeep is level,
and
> > the engine is idling at operating temperature, with transmission in
either P
> > or N (whichever the owner's manual states - If I would have to guess I'd
say
> > Park, since that is what my 94 JGC requires) - some automatic trannys
> > require the fluid to be checked in P, some in N -- you will get very
> > different readings if you check it in the wrong setting, and it is
possible
> > to get a full reading when the transmission is actually a quart or more
low.
> >
> > One other thought. Make sure it is the correct type of transmission
fluid.
> > Most Chrysler automatic trannys require ATF+3 for Chrysler
transmissions.
> > This fluid has a MOPAR additive MS 7176 that is required to preserve the
> > clutch linings in the transmission. If you use regular Dexron/Mercon II
or
> > III, it will eat away your clutch linings and ultimately cause the
> > transmission to fail. This is a common mistake if the Jeep is taken to
such
> > places as Jiffy Lube for a transmission fluid change. I would check the
> > receipt from the last time your fluid was changed and make sure that it
> > states the correct fluid was used. This is very important!!!
> >
> > Sorry this is a little long, but I hope it helps!
> >
> > Good Luck!
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > "James Nipper" <jnipper@fdn.com> wrote in message
> > news:2nc43jFumn05U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks to JObo and Bill. We are going to check the fluid more
> > > carefully, and make very certain it is full. It was changed 5-6
months
> > ago,
> > > so I don't think it is "bad" oil.
> > >
> > >
> > > --James--
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Phil Rynn

Jo Bo
I'm pretty sure that you will require ATF+3 (with the MOPAR 7176
additive). Most Chrysler transmissions from 1994 on require this fluid.
Any Dodge/Jeep/Chrysler/Mitsubishi/some Hyundai cars from this time period
onward will most likely require this fluid. To be sure, you can check with
the service department at any Jeep dealer. Just call and ask what type of
fluid the transmission requires. I have the shop manual for my 94 JGC and
it lists that fluid as a requirement. I also have the Haynes manual for JGC
'93 thru '00 and it states that ATF+3 is required on all '94 and above. My
guess is that Jeep Cherokee would be similar, but I don't know if it has the
same transmission as the JGC. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

Phil

PS: I used to have a 95 Mitsubishi Galant that also required ATF+3, but
when I first asked at the auto parts store if they had the right fluid, I
was told that I could put any Mercron/Dexron II/III fluid in. This is not
correct so I would be wary of trusting statements made by an auto parts
salesman.

"Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:2hRRc.145258$fv.140962@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> Phil.
>
> I have a 96 charokee with 4L engine and 4 speed auto shift. I asked what
fluid
> to use and get answers from "what does it say on the stick" to read the
owners
> book. The book says Dexron and the stick says "Trans Oil". What oil is
correct
> for this transmission?
>
> JoBo
>
> "Phil Rynn" <rynnphNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:w8MRc.26792$n7.5960@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> > It is possible it could be 'bad' oil since ATF breaks down very quickly
if
> > it is overtemped. But like you said if it was changed 5-6 months ago,
it is
> > not likely unless the jeep is driven hard or under heavy loads.
Definitely
> > re check the fluid level like you said. Make sure the jeep is level,
and
> > the engine is idling at operating temperature, with transmission in
either P
> > or N (whichever the owner's manual states - If I would have to guess I'd
say
> > Park, since that is what my 94 JGC requires) - some automatic trannys
> > require the fluid to be checked in P, some in N -- you will get very
> > different readings if you check it in the wrong setting, and it is
possible
> > to get a full reading when the transmission is actually a quart or more
low.
> >
> > One other thought. Make sure it is the correct type of transmission
fluid.
> > Most Chrysler automatic trannys require ATF+3 for Chrysler
transmissions.
> > This fluid has a MOPAR additive MS 7176 that is required to preserve the
> > clutch linings in the transmission. If you use regular Dexron/Mercon II
or
> > III, it will eat away your clutch linings and ultimately cause the
> > transmission to fail. This is a common mistake if the Jeep is taken to
such
> > places as Jiffy Lube for a transmission fluid change. I would check the
> > receipt from the last time your fluid was changed and make sure that it
> > states the correct fluid was used. This is very important!!!
> >
> > Sorry this is a little long, but I hope it helps!
> >
> > Good Luck!
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > "James Nipper" <jnipper@fdn.com> wrote in message
> > news:2nc43jFumn05U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks to JObo and Bill. We are going to check the fluid more
> > > carefully, and make very certain it is full. It was changed 5-6
months
> > ago,
> > > so I don't think it is "bad" oil.
> > >
> > >
> > > --James--
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Jo Bo

Phil.

I just found what some one told me. On the back cover of the "1996 Jeep
Cherokee Owners Manual" it says:
"2.5L=Mopar ATF Plus #7176 Do not use Dexron III Mercon unless recommended
fluid is not available.
4.0L=Mopar auto transmission fluid #4773590 or equivalent labled Dexron III
Mercon Fluid".

So I think (hope) using Dexron III Mercon in my 96 4.0L was correct. It has the
AW4 transmission. My Haynes for 1984-2000 calls for Mercon for AW4 and Dexron
for 727 & 999 transmissions and makes no mention of the #7176 Chrysler ATF+3.
So they're all wet!

Thanks for your time
JoBo.

"Phil Rynn" <rynnphNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hJSRc.27578$n7.25034@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> Jo Bo
> I'm pretty sure that you will require ATF+3 (with the MOPAR 7176
> additive). Most Chrysler transmissions from 1994 on require this fluid.
> Any Dodge/Jeep/Chrysler/Mitsubishi/some Hyundai cars from this time period
> onward will most likely require this fluid. To be sure, you can check with
> the service department at any Jeep dealer. Just call and ask what type of
> fluid the transmission requires. I have the shop manual for my 94 JGC and
> it lists that fluid as a requirement. I also have the Haynes manual for JGC
> '93 thru '00 and it states that ATF+3 is required on all '94 and above. My
> guess is that Jeep Cherokee would be similar, but I don't know if it has the
> same transmission as the JGC. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
>
> Phil
>
> PS: I used to have a 95 Mitsubishi Galant that also required ATF+3, but
> when I first asked at the auto parts store if they had the right fluid, I
> was told that I could put any Mercron/Dexron II/III fluid in. This is not
> correct so I would be wary of trusting statements made by an auto parts
> salesman.
>
> "Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:2hRRc.145258$fv.140962@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > Phil.
> >
> > I have a 96 charokee with 4L engine and 4 speed auto shift. I asked what
> fluid
> > to use and get answers from "what does it say on the stick" to read the
> owners
> > book. The book says Dexron and the stick says "Trans Oil". What oil is
> correct
> > for this transmission?
> >
> > JoBo
> >
> > "Phil Rynn" <rynnphNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:w8MRc.26792$n7.5960@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> > > It is possible it could be 'bad' oil since ATF breaks down very quickly
> if
> > > it is overtemped. But like you said if it was changed 5-6 months ago,
> it is
> > > not likely unless the jeep is driven hard or under heavy loads.
> Definitely
> > > re check the fluid level like you said. Make sure the jeep is level,
> and
> > > the engine is idling at operating temperature, with transmission in
> either P
> > > or N (whichever the owner's manual states - If I would have to guess I'd
> say
> > > Park, since that is what my 94 JGC requires) - some automatic trannys
> > > require the fluid to be checked in P, some in N -- you will get very
> > > different readings if you check it in the wrong setting, and it is
> possible
> > > to get a full reading when the transmission is actually a quart or more
> low.
> > >
> > > One other thought. Make sure it is the correct type of transmission
> fluid.
> > > Most Chrysler automatic trannys require ATF+3 for Chrysler
> transmissions.
> > > This fluid has a MOPAR additive MS 7176 that is required to preserve the
> > > clutch linings in the transmission. If you use regular Dexron/Mercon II
> or
> > > III, it will eat away your clutch linings and ultimately cause the
> > > transmission to fail. This is a common mistake if the Jeep is taken to
> such
> > > places as Jiffy Lube for a transmission fluid change. I would check the
> > > receipt from the last time your fluid was changed and make sure that it
> > > states the correct fluid was used. This is very important!!!
> > >
> > > Sorry this is a little long, but I hope it helps!
> > >
> > > Good Luck!
> > >
> > > Phil
> > >
> > > "James Nipper" <jnipper@fdn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:2nc43jFumn05U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks to JObo and Bill. We are going to check the fluid more
> > > > carefully, and make very certain it is full. It was changed 5-6
> months
> > > ago,
> > > > so I don't think it is "bad" oil.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --James--
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>

Jo Bo

Phil.

I just found what some one told me. On the back cover of the "1996 Jeep
Cherokee Owners Manual" it says:
"2.5L=Mopar ATF Plus #7176 Do not use Dexron III Mercon unless recommended
fluid is not available.
4.0L=Mopar auto transmission fluid #4773590 or equivalent labled Dexron III
Mercon Fluid".

So I think (hope) using Dexron III Mercon in my 96 4.0L was correct. It has the
AW4 transmission. My Haynes for 1984-2000 calls for Mercon for AW4 and Dexron
for 727 & 999 transmissions and makes no mention of the #7176 Chrysler ATF+3.
So they're all wet!

Thanks for your time
JoBo.

"Phil Rynn" <rynnphNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hJSRc.27578$n7.25034@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> Jo Bo
> I'm pretty sure that you will require ATF+3 (with the MOPAR 7176
> additive). Most Chrysler transmissions from 1994 on require this fluid.
> Any Dodge/Jeep/Chrysler/Mitsubishi/some Hyundai cars from this time period
> onward will most likely require this fluid. To be sure, you can check with
> the service department at any Jeep dealer. Just call and ask what type of
> fluid the transmission requires. I have the shop manual for my 94 JGC and
> it lists that fluid as a requirement. I also have the Haynes manual for JGC
> '93 thru '00 and it states that ATF+3 is required on all '94 and above. My
> guess is that Jeep Cherokee would be similar, but I don't know if it has the
> same transmission as the JGC. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
>
> Phil
>
> PS: I used to have a 95 Mitsubishi Galant that also required ATF+3, but
> when I first asked at the auto parts store if they had the right fluid, I
> was told that I could put any Mercron/Dexron II/III fluid in. This is not
> correct so I would be wary of trusting statements made by an auto parts
> salesman.
>
> "Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:2hRRc.145258$fv.140962@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > Phil.
> >
> > I have a 96 charokee with 4L engine and 4 speed auto shift. I asked what
> fluid
> > to use and get answers from "what does it say on the stick" to read the
> owners
> > book. The book says Dexron and the stick says "Trans Oil". What oil is
> correct
> > for this transmission?
> >
> > JoBo
> >
> > "Phil Rynn" <rynnphNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:w8MRc.26792$n7.5960@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> > > It is possible it could be 'bad' oil since ATF breaks down very quickly
> if
> > > it is overtemped. But like you said if it was changed 5-6 months ago,
> it is
> > > not likely unless the jeep is driven hard or under heavy loads.
> Definitely
> > > re check the fluid level like you said. Make sure the jeep is level,
> and
> > > the engine is idling at operating temperature, with transmission in
> either P
> > > or N (whichever the owner's manual states - If I would have to guess I'd
> say
> > > Park, since that is what my 94 JGC requires) - some automatic trannys
> > > require the fluid to be checked in P, some in N -- you will get very
> > > different readings if you check it in the wrong setting, and it is
> possible
> > > to get a full reading when the transmission is actually a quart or more
> low.
> > >
> > > One other thought. Make sure it is the correct type of transmission
> fluid.
> > > Most Chrysler automatic trannys require ATF+3 for Chrysler
> transmissions.
> > > This fluid has a MOPAR additive MS 7176 that is required to preserve the
> > > clutch linings in the transmission. If you use regular Dexron/Mercon II
> or
> > > III, it will eat away your clutch linings and ultimately cause the
> > > transmission to fail. This is a common mistake if the Jeep is taken to
> such
> > > places as Jiffy Lube for a transmission fluid change. I would check the
> > > receipt from the last time your fluid was changed and make sure that it
> > > states the correct fluid was used. This is very important!!!
> > >
> > > Sorry this is a little long, but I hope it helps!
> > >
> > > Good Luck!
> > >
> > > Phil
> > >
> > > "James Nipper" <jnipper@fdn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:2nc43jFumn05U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks to JObo and Bill. We are going to check the fluid more
> > > > carefully, and make very certain it is full. It was changed 5-6
> months
> > > ago,
> > > > so I don't think it is "bad" oil.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --James--
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>

Jo Bo

Phil.

I just found what some one told me. On the back cover of the "1996 Jeep
Cherokee Owners Manual" it says:
"2.5L=Mopar ATF Plus #7176 Do not use Dexron III Mercon unless recommended
fluid is not available.
4.0L=Mopar auto transmission fluid #4773590 or equivalent labled Dexron III
Mercon Fluid".

So I think (hope) using Dexron III Mercon in my 96 4.0L was correct. It has the
AW4 transmission. My Haynes for 1984-2000 calls for Mercon for AW4 and Dexron
for 727 & 999 transmissions and makes no mention of the #7176 Chrysler ATF+3.
So they're all wet!

Thanks for your time
JoBo.

"Phil Rynn" <rynnphNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hJSRc.27578$n7.25034@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> Jo Bo
> I'm pretty sure that you will require ATF+3 (with the MOPAR 7176
> additive). Most Chrysler transmissions from 1994 on require this fluid.
> Any Dodge/Jeep/Chrysler/Mitsubishi/some Hyundai cars from this time period
> onward will most likely require this fluid. To be sure, you can check with
> the service department at any Jeep dealer. Just call and ask what type of
> fluid the transmission requires. I have the shop manual for my 94 JGC and
> it lists that fluid as a requirement. I also have the Haynes manual for JGC
> '93 thru '00 and it states that ATF+3 is required on all '94 and above. My
> guess is that Jeep Cherokee would be similar, but I don't know if it has the
> same transmission as the JGC. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
>
> Phil
>
> PS: I used to have a 95 Mitsubishi Galant that also required ATF+3, but
> when I first asked at the auto parts store if they had the right fluid, I
> was told that I could put any Mercron/Dexron II/III fluid in. This is not
> correct so I would be wary of trusting statements made by an auto parts
> salesman.
>
> "Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:2hRRc.145258$fv.140962@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > Phil.
> >
> > I have a 96 charokee with 4L engine and 4 speed auto shift. I asked what
> fluid
> > to use and get answers from "what does it say on the stick" to read the
> owners
> > book. The book says Dexron and the stick says "Trans Oil". What oil is
> correct
> > for this transmission?
> >
> > JoBo
> >
> > "Phil Rynn" <rynnphNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:w8MRc.26792$n7.5960@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> > > It is possible it could be 'bad' oil since ATF breaks down very quickly
> if
> > > it is overtemped. But like you said if it was changed 5-6 months ago,
> it is
> > > not likely unless the jeep is driven hard or under heavy loads.
> Definitely
> > > re check the fluid level like you said. Make sure the jeep is level,
> and
> > > the engine is idling at operating temperature, with transmission in
> either P
> > > or N (whichever the owner's manual states - If I would have to guess I'd
> say
> > > Park, since that is what my 94 JGC requires) - some automatic trannys
> > > require the fluid to be checked in P, some in N -- you will get very
> > > different readings if you check it in the wrong setting, and it is
> possible
> > > to get a full reading when the transmission is actually a quart or more
> low.
> > >
> > > One other thought. Make sure it is the correct type of transmission
> fluid.
> > > Most Chrysler automatic trannys require ATF+3 for Chrysler
> transmissions.
> > > This fluid has a MOPAR additive MS 7176 that is required to preserve the
> > > clutch linings in the transmission. If you use regular Dexron/Mercon II
> or
> > > III, it will eat away your clutch linings and ultimately cause the
> > > transmission to fail. This is a common mistake if the Jeep is taken to
> such
> > > places as Jiffy Lube for a transmission fluid change. I would check the
> > > receipt from the last time your fluid was changed and make sure that it
> > > states the correct fluid was used. This is very important!!!
> > >
> > > Sorry this is a little long, but I hope it helps!
> > >
> > > Good Luck!
> > >
> > > Phil
> > >
> > > "James Nipper" <jnipper@fdn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:2nc43jFumn05U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks to JObo and Bill. We are going to check the fluid more
> > > > carefully, and make very certain it is full. It was changed 5-6
> months
> > > ago,
> > > > so I don't think it is "bad" oil.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --James--
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>

Jo Bo

Phil.

I just found what some one told me. On the back cover of the "1996 Jeep
Cherokee Owners Manual" it says:
"2.5L=Mopar ATF Plus #7176 Do not use Dexron III Mercon unless recommended
fluid is not available.
4.0L=Mopar auto transmission fluid #4773590 or equivalent labled Dexron III
Mercon Fluid".

So I think (hope) using Dexron III Mercon in my 96 4.0L was correct. It has the
AW4 transmission. My Haynes for 1984-2000 calls for Mercon for AW4 and Dexron
for 727 & 999 transmissions and makes no mention of the #7176 Chrysler ATF+3.
So they're all wet!

Thanks for your time
JoBo.

"Phil Rynn" <rynnphNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hJSRc.27578$n7.25034@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> Jo Bo
> I'm pretty sure that you will require ATF+3 (with the MOPAR 7176
> additive). Most Chrysler transmissions from 1994 on require this fluid.
> Any Dodge/Jeep/Chrysler/Mitsubishi/some Hyundai cars from this time period
> onward will most likely require this fluid. To be sure, you can check with
> the service department at any Jeep dealer. Just call and ask what type of
> fluid the transmission requires. I have the shop manual for my 94 JGC and
> it lists that fluid as a requirement. I also have the Haynes manual for JGC
> '93 thru '00 and it states that ATF+3 is required on all '94 and above. My
> guess is that Jeep Cherokee would be similar, but I don't know if it has the
> same transmission as the JGC. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
>
> Phil
>
> PS: I used to have a 95 Mitsubishi Galant that also required ATF+3, but
> when I first asked at the auto parts store if they had the right fluid, I
> was told that I could put any Mercron/Dexron II/III fluid in. This is not
> correct so I would be wary of trusting statements made by an auto parts
> salesman.
>
> "Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:2hRRc.145258$fv.140962@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > Phil.
> >
> > I have a 96 charokee with 4L engine and 4 speed auto shift. I asked what
> fluid
> > to use and get answers from "what does it say on the stick" to read the
> owners
> > book. The book says Dexron and the stick says "Trans Oil". What oil is
> correct
> > for this transmission?
> >
> > JoBo
> >
> > "Phil Rynn" <rynnphNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:w8MRc.26792$n7.5960@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> > > It is possible it could be 'bad' oil since ATF breaks down very quickly
> if
> > > it is overtemped. But like you said if it was changed 5-6 months ago,
> it is
> > > not likely unless the jeep is driven hard or under heavy loads.
> Definitely
> > > re check the fluid level like you said. Make sure the jeep is level,
> and
> > > the engine is idling at operating temperature, with transmission in
> either P
> > > or N (whichever the owner's manual states - If I would have to guess I'd
> say
> > > Park, since that is what my 94 JGC requires) - some automatic trannys
> > > require the fluid to be checked in P, some in N -- you will get very
> > > different readings if you check it in the wrong setting, and it is
> possible
> > > to get a full reading when the transmission is actually a quart or more
> low.
> > >
> > > One other thought. Make sure it is the correct type of transmission
> fluid.
> > > Most Chrysler automatic trannys require ATF+3 for Chrysler
> transmissions.
> > > This fluid has a MOPAR additive MS 7176 that is required to preserve the
> > > clutch linings in the transmission. If you use regular Dexron/Mercon II
> or
> > > III, it will eat away your clutch linings and ultimately cause the
> > > transmission to fail. This is a common mistake if the Jeep is taken to
> such
> > > places as Jiffy Lube for a transmission fluid change. I would check the
> > > receipt from the last time your fluid was changed and make sure that it
> > > states the correct fluid was used. This is very important!!!
> > >
> > > Sorry this is a little long, but I hope it helps!
> > >
> > > Good Luck!
> > >
> > > Phil
> > >
> > > "James Nipper" <jnipper@fdn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:2nc43jFumn05U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks to JObo and Bill. We are going to check the fluid more
> > > > carefully, and make very certain it is full. It was changed 5-6
> months
> > > ago,
> > > > so I don't think it is "bad" oil.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --James--
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>

Phil Rynn

Jo Bo,
Good deal. It sounds like you are fine just using the Dexron III/Mercon,
based on what the owners manual says. As for Chilton/Haynes I never take
anything printed on their pages as gospel. I've encountered numerous
mistakes and omissions in both over the years. Take care,
Phil
"Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:HDTRc.145929$fv.68915@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> Phil.
>
> I just found what some one told me. On the back cover of the "1996 Jeep
> Cherokee Owners Manual" it says:
> "2.5L=Mopar ATF Plus #7176 Do not use Dexron III Mercon unless recommended
> fluid is not available.
> 4.0L=Mopar auto transmission fluid #4773590 or equivalent labled Dexron
III
> Mercon Fluid".
>
> So I think (hope) using Dexron III Mercon in my 96 4.0L was correct. It
has the
> AW4 transmission. My Haynes for 1984-2000 calls for Mercon for AW4 and
Dexron
> for 727 & 999 transmissions and makes no mention of the #7176 Chrysler
ATF+3.
> So they're all wet!
>
> Thanks for your time
> JoBo.
>
> "Phil Rynn" <rynnphNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hJSRc.27578$n7.25034@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> > Jo Bo
> > I'm pretty sure that you will require ATF+3 (with the MOPAR 7176
> > additive). Most Chrysler transmissions from 1994 on require this fluid.
> > Any Dodge/Jeep/Chrysler/Mitsubishi/some Hyundai cars from this time
period
> > onward will most likely require this fluid. To be sure, you can check
with
> > the service department at any Jeep dealer. Just call and ask what type
of
> > fluid the transmission requires. I have the shop manual for my 94 JGC
and
> > it lists that fluid as a requirement. I also have the Haynes manual for
JGC
> > '93 thru '00 and it states that ATF+3 is required on all '94 and above.
My
> > guess is that Jeep Cherokee would be similar, but I don't know if it has
the
> > same transmission as the JGC. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > PS: I used to have a 95 Mitsubishi Galant that also required ATF+3, but
> > when I first asked at the auto parts store if they had the right fluid,
I
> > was told that I could put any Mercron/Dexron II/III fluid in. This is
not
> > correct so I would be wary of trusting statements made by an auto parts
> > salesman.
> >
> > "Jo Bo" <jromas@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:2hRRc.145258$fv.140962@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > > Phil.
> > >
> > > I have a 96 charokee with 4L engine and 4 speed auto shift. I asked
what
> > fluid
> > > to use and get answers from "what does it say on the stick" to read
the
> > owners
> > > book. The book says Dexron and the stick says "Trans Oil". What oil is
> > correct
> > > for this transmission?
> > >
> > > JoBo
> > >
> > > "Phil Rynn" <rynnphNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:w8MRc.26792$n7.5960@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> > > > It is possible it could be 'bad' oil since ATF breaks down very
quickly
> > if
> > > > it is overtemped. But like you said if it was changed 5-6 months
ago,
> > it is
> > > > not likely unless the jeep is driven hard or under heavy loads.
> > Definitely
> > > > re check the fluid level like you said. Make sure the jeep is
level,
> > and
> > > > the engine is idling at operating temperature, with transmission in
> > either P
> > > > or N (whichever the owner's manual states - If I would have to guess
I'd
> > say
> > > > Park, since that is what my 94 JGC requires) - some automatic
trannys
> > > > require the fluid to be checked in P, some in N -- you will get very
> > > > different readings if you check it in the wrong setting, and it is
> > possible
> > > > to get a full reading when the transmission is actually a quart or
more
> > low.
> > > >
> > > > One other thought. Make sure it is the correct type of transmission
> > fluid.
> > > > Most Chrysler automatic trannys require ATF+3 for Chrysler
> > transmissions.
> > > > This fluid has a MOPAR additive MS 7176 that is required to preserve
the
> > > > clutch linings in the transmission. If you use regular
Dexron/Mercon II
> > or
> > > > III, it will eat away your clutch linings and ultimately cause the
> > > > transmission to fail. This is a common mistake if the Jeep is taken
to
> > such
> > > > places as Jiffy Lube for a transmission fluid change. I would check
the
> > > > receipt from the last time your fluid was changed and make sure that
it
> > > > states the correct fluid was used. This is very important!!!
> > > >
> > > > Sorry this is a little long, but I hope it helps!
> > > >
> > > > Good Luck!
> > > >
> > > > Phil
> > > >
> > > > "James Nipper" <jnipper@fdn.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:2nc43jFumn05U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks to JObo and Bill. We are going to check the fluid more
> > > > > carefully, and make very certain it is full. It was changed 5-6
> > months
> > > > ago,
> > > > > so I don't think it is "bad" oil.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --James--
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>