transmission planning for a CJ7
05-18-2005, 02:32 PM
#11
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Re: transmission planning for a CJ7
Is the T-5 not concidered to be a "light weight" transmission?
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/t5.html
For low gears I will probably do a 4:1 kit in the D300 anyways.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:428B86F7.97B14EBC@***.net...
> Keep what you have and drop differential gears. Ford still uses the
> T-5 behind the biggest Mustangs. If you need a granny than I guess you
> go for the '47 Chevy Muncie 465, but that's easiest done behind the
> Chevy small block, like the other ninety percent of the Real Jeeps:
> http://www.manoian.net/jeep/350conv.html
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/Trans.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Rusted wrote:
>>
>> The old T5 in the 83 CJ7 with 210K miles is getting a little old, just
>> like
>> the rest of the jeep. It is still working ok, so I am not in a rush, but
>> I
>> would like to start looking for parts and getting ready to replace it.
>> I
>> plan on keeping the Jeep street legal, and street drivable, but want to
>> eventually get up to 35" ish tires, and more off-road capable.
>> So to get started I want a transmission that is strong, and has a crawler
>> gear options. Any opinions or experience with a T18, SM465 or NV4500?
>> I
>> see lots of T18's in jeeps, but not as many SM465. They both should be
>> pretty common, and fairly comparable. Is there a reason we see more
>> T18's
>> in CJ's? Any issues with a SM465 that you would not have with a T18?
>> I
>> figure if I keep an eye out for parts now, and save for the adapters and
>> possibly a rebuild I figure I can do this swap for pretty cheap. I have
>> the D300 t-case, and a 258 engine if that matters with any of your
>> comments.
>> Thanks for any advice while I get idea.
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/t5.html
For low gears I will probably do a 4:1 kit in the D300 anyways.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:428B86F7.97B14EBC@***.net...
> Keep what you have and drop differential gears. Ford still uses the
> T-5 behind the biggest Mustangs. If you need a granny than I guess you
> go for the '47 Chevy Muncie 465, but that's easiest done behind the
> Chevy small block, like the other ninety percent of the Real Jeeps:
> http://www.manoian.net/jeep/350conv.html
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/Trans.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Rusted wrote:
>>
>> The old T5 in the 83 CJ7 with 210K miles is getting a little old, just
>> like
>> the rest of the jeep. It is still working ok, so I am not in a rush, but
>> I
>> would like to start looking for parts and getting ready to replace it.
>> I
>> plan on keeping the Jeep street legal, and street drivable, but want to
>> eventually get up to 35" ish tires, and more off-road capable.
>> So to get started I want a transmission that is strong, and has a crawler
>> gear options. Any opinions or experience with a T18, SM465 or NV4500?
>> I
>> see lots of T18's in jeeps, but not as many SM465. They both should be
>> pretty common, and fairly comparable. Is there a reason we see more
>> T18's
>> in CJ's? Any issues with a SM465 that you would not have with a T18?
>> I
>> figure if I keep an eye out for parts now, and save for the adapters and
>> possibly a rebuild I figure I can do this swap for pretty cheap. I have
>> the D300 t-case, and a 258 engine if that matters with any of your
>> comments.
>> Thanks for any advice while I get idea.
05-18-2005, 02:32 PM
#12
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Re: transmission planning for a CJ7
Is the T-5 not concidered to be a "light weight" transmission?
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/t5.html
For low gears I will probably do a 4:1 kit in the D300 anyways.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:428B86F7.97B14EBC@***.net...
> Keep what you have and drop differential gears. Ford still uses the
> T-5 behind the biggest Mustangs. If you need a granny than I guess you
> go for the '47 Chevy Muncie 465, but that's easiest done behind the
> Chevy small block, like the other ninety percent of the Real Jeeps:
> http://www.manoian.net/jeep/350conv.html
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/Trans.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Rusted wrote:
>>
>> The old T5 in the 83 CJ7 with 210K miles is getting a little old, just
>> like
>> the rest of the jeep. It is still working ok, so I am not in a rush, but
>> I
>> would like to start looking for parts and getting ready to replace it.
>> I
>> plan on keeping the Jeep street legal, and street drivable, but want to
>> eventually get up to 35" ish tires, and more off-road capable.
>> So to get started I want a transmission that is strong, and has a crawler
>> gear options. Any opinions or experience with a T18, SM465 or NV4500?
>> I
>> see lots of T18's in jeeps, but not as many SM465. They both should be
>> pretty common, and fairly comparable. Is there a reason we see more
>> T18's
>> in CJ's? Any issues with a SM465 that you would not have with a T18?
>> I
>> figure if I keep an eye out for parts now, and save for the adapters and
>> possibly a rebuild I figure I can do this swap for pretty cheap. I have
>> the D300 t-case, and a 258 engine if that matters with any of your
>> comments.
>> Thanks for any advice while I get idea.
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/t5.html
For low gears I will probably do a 4:1 kit in the D300 anyways.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:428B86F7.97B14EBC@***.net...
> Keep what you have and drop differential gears. Ford still uses the
> T-5 behind the biggest Mustangs. If you need a granny than I guess you
> go for the '47 Chevy Muncie 465, but that's easiest done behind the
> Chevy small block, like the other ninety percent of the Real Jeeps:
> http://www.manoian.net/jeep/350conv.html
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/Trans.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Rusted wrote:
>>
>> The old T5 in the 83 CJ7 with 210K miles is getting a little old, just
>> like
>> the rest of the jeep. It is still working ok, so I am not in a rush, but
>> I
>> would like to start looking for parts and getting ready to replace it.
>> I
>> plan on keeping the Jeep street legal, and street drivable, but want to
>> eventually get up to 35" ish tires, and more off-road capable.
>> So to get started I want a transmission that is strong, and has a crawler
>> gear options. Any opinions or experience with a T18, SM465 or NV4500?
>> I
>> see lots of T18's in jeeps, but not as many SM465. They both should be
>> pretty common, and fairly comparable. Is there a reason we see more
>> T18's
>> in CJ's? Any issues with a SM465 that you would not have with a T18?
>> I
>> figure if I keep an eye out for parts now, and save for the adapters and
>> possibly a rebuild I figure I can do this swap for pretty cheap. I have
>> the D300 t-case, and a 258 engine if that matters with any of your
>> comments.
>> Thanks for any advice while I get idea.
05-18-2005, 02:32 PM
#13
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Re: transmission planning for a CJ7
Is the T-5 not concidered to be a "light weight" transmission?
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/t5.html
For low gears I will probably do a 4:1 kit in the D300 anyways.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:428B86F7.97B14EBC@***.net...
> Keep what you have and drop differential gears. Ford still uses the
> T-5 behind the biggest Mustangs. If you need a granny than I guess you
> go for the '47 Chevy Muncie 465, but that's easiest done behind the
> Chevy small block, like the other ninety percent of the Real Jeeps:
> http://www.manoian.net/jeep/350conv.html
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/Trans.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Rusted wrote:
>>
>> The old T5 in the 83 CJ7 with 210K miles is getting a little old, just
>> like
>> the rest of the jeep. It is still working ok, so I am not in a rush, but
>> I
>> would like to start looking for parts and getting ready to replace it.
>> I
>> plan on keeping the Jeep street legal, and street drivable, but want to
>> eventually get up to 35" ish tires, and more off-road capable.
>> So to get started I want a transmission that is strong, and has a crawler
>> gear options. Any opinions or experience with a T18, SM465 or NV4500?
>> I
>> see lots of T18's in jeeps, but not as many SM465. They both should be
>> pretty common, and fairly comparable. Is there a reason we see more
>> T18's
>> in CJ's? Any issues with a SM465 that you would not have with a T18?
>> I
>> figure if I keep an eye out for parts now, and save for the adapters and
>> possibly a rebuild I figure I can do this swap for pretty cheap. I have
>> the D300 t-case, and a 258 engine if that matters with any of your
>> comments.
>> Thanks for any advice while I get idea.
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/t5.html
For low gears I will probably do a 4:1 kit in the D300 anyways.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:428B86F7.97B14EBC@***.net...
> Keep what you have and drop differential gears. Ford still uses the
> T-5 behind the biggest Mustangs. If you need a granny than I guess you
> go for the '47 Chevy Muncie 465, but that's easiest done behind the
> Chevy small block, like the other ninety percent of the Real Jeeps:
> http://www.manoian.net/jeep/350conv.html
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/Trans.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Rusted wrote:
>>
>> The old T5 in the 83 CJ7 with 210K miles is getting a little old, just
>> like
>> the rest of the jeep. It is still working ok, so I am not in a rush, but
>> I
>> would like to start looking for parts and getting ready to replace it.
>> I
>> plan on keeping the Jeep street legal, and street drivable, but want to
>> eventually get up to 35" ish tires, and more off-road capable.
>> So to get started I want a transmission that is strong, and has a crawler
>> gear options. Any opinions or experience with a T18, SM465 or NV4500?
>> I
>> see lots of T18's in jeeps, but not as many SM465. They both should be
>> pretty common, and fairly comparable. Is there a reason we see more
>> T18's
>> in CJ's? Any issues with a SM465 that you would not have with a T18?
>> I
>> figure if I keep an eye out for parts now, and save for the adapters and
>> possibly a rebuild I figure I can do this swap for pretty cheap. I have
>> the D300 t-case, and a 258 engine if that matters with any of your
>> comments.
>> Thanks for any advice while I get idea.
05-18-2005, 02:37 PM
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Re: transmission planning for a CJ7
I have felt like I have abused mine as well. With the high miles I know it
needs a rebuild. So if price was similar between rebuilding my T5 and a
T18a would you would still prefer the T5? How come offroad.com calles the
T5 a "light weight" tranny, and the T18 a "heavy duty". A V8 Mustang is
still a 2500 pound ish car, where the T-18 was used in 3/4 and 1 ton trucks.
Thanks for your input.
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/t5.html
vs
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/t18.html
vs
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/co...convsm465.html
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:428B85C8.CB6D128D@sympatico.ca...
> As far as I am aware, you now have the best combination going, the Borg
> Warner 'World Class' T5 with the Dana 300 t-case. That T5 is the same
> one Ford puts behind Mustang V8's and is a strong one.
>
> I have abused mine, run it totally dry 20 miles from a road and came
> limping out with it going bang! bang! bang! in every gear except 3rd,
> only to fill it up and keep on going. That was 6 years ago too....
>
> I kinda like mine.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Rusted wrote:
>>
>> The old T5 in the 83 CJ7 with 210K miles is getting a little old, just
>> like
>> the rest of the jeep. It is still working ok, so I am not in a rush, but
>> I
>> would like to start looking for parts and getting ready to replace it.
>> I
>> plan on keeping the Jeep street legal, and street drivable, but want to
>> eventually get up to 35" ish tires, and more off-road capable.
>> So to get started I want a transmission that is strong, and has a crawler
>> gear options. Any opinions or experience with a T18, SM465 or NV4500?
>> I
>> see lots of T18's in jeeps, but not as many SM465. They both should be
>> pretty common, and fairly comparable. Is there a reason we see more
>> T18's
>> in CJ's? Any issues with a SM465 that you would not have with a T18?
>> I
>> figure if I keep an eye out for parts now, and save for the adapters and
>> possibly a rebuild I figure I can do this swap for pretty cheap. I have
>> the D300 t-case, and a 258 engine if that matters with any of your
>> comments.
>> Thanks for any advice while I get idea.
needs a rebuild. So if price was similar between rebuilding my T5 and a
T18a would you would still prefer the T5? How come offroad.com calles the
T5 a "light weight" tranny, and the T18 a "heavy duty". A V8 Mustang is
still a 2500 pound ish car, where the T-18 was used in 3/4 and 1 ton trucks.
Thanks for your input.
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/t5.html
vs
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/t18.html
vs
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/co...convsm465.html
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:428B85C8.CB6D128D@sympatico.ca...
> As far as I am aware, you now have the best combination going, the Borg
> Warner 'World Class' T5 with the Dana 300 t-case. That T5 is the same
> one Ford puts behind Mustang V8's and is a strong one.
>
> I have abused mine, run it totally dry 20 miles from a road and came
> limping out with it going bang! bang! bang! in every gear except 3rd,
> only to fill it up and keep on going. That was 6 years ago too....
>
> I kinda like mine.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Rusted wrote:
>>
>> The old T5 in the 83 CJ7 with 210K miles is getting a little old, just
>> like
>> the rest of the jeep. It is still working ok, so I am not in a rush, but
>> I
>> would like to start looking for parts and getting ready to replace it.
>> I
>> plan on keeping the Jeep street legal, and street drivable, but want to
>> eventually get up to 35" ish tires, and more off-road capable.
>> So to get started I want a transmission that is strong, and has a crawler
>> gear options. Any opinions or experience with a T18, SM465 or NV4500?
>> I
>> see lots of T18's in jeeps, but not as many SM465. They both should be
>> pretty common, and fairly comparable. Is there a reason we see more
>> T18's
>> in CJ's? Any issues with a SM465 that you would not have with a T18?
>> I
>> figure if I keep an eye out for parts now, and save for the adapters and
>> possibly a rebuild I figure I can do this swap for pretty cheap. I have
>> the D300 t-case, and a 258 engine if that matters with any of your
>> comments.
>> Thanks for any advice while I get idea.
05-18-2005, 02:37 PM
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Re: transmission planning for a CJ7
I have felt like I have abused mine as well. With the high miles I know it
needs a rebuild. So if price was similar between rebuilding my T5 and a
T18a would you would still prefer the T5? How come offroad.com calles the
T5 a "light weight" tranny, and the T18 a "heavy duty". A V8 Mustang is
still a 2500 pound ish car, where the T-18 was used in 3/4 and 1 ton trucks.
Thanks for your input.
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/t5.html
vs
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/t18.html
vs
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/co...convsm465.html
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:428B85C8.CB6D128D@sympatico.ca...
> As far as I am aware, you now have the best combination going, the Borg
> Warner 'World Class' T5 with the Dana 300 t-case. That T5 is the same
> one Ford puts behind Mustang V8's and is a strong one.
>
> I have abused mine, run it totally dry 20 miles from a road and came
> limping out with it going bang! bang! bang! in every gear except 3rd,
> only to fill it up and keep on going. That was 6 years ago too....
>
> I kinda like mine.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Rusted wrote:
>>
>> The old T5 in the 83 CJ7 with 210K miles is getting a little old, just
>> like
>> the rest of the jeep. It is still working ok, so I am not in a rush, but
>> I
>> would like to start looking for parts and getting ready to replace it.
>> I
>> plan on keeping the Jeep street legal, and street drivable, but want to
>> eventually get up to 35" ish tires, and more off-road capable.
>> So to get started I want a transmission that is strong, and has a crawler
>> gear options. Any opinions or experience with a T18, SM465 or NV4500?
>> I
>> see lots of T18's in jeeps, but not as many SM465. They both should be
>> pretty common, and fairly comparable. Is there a reason we see more
>> T18's
>> in CJ's? Any issues with a SM465 that you would not have with a T18?
>> I
>> figure if I keep an eye out for parts now, and save for the adapters and
>> possibly a rebuild I figure I can do this swap for pretty cheap. I have
>> the D300 t-case, and a 258 engine if that matters with any of your
>> comments.
>> Thanks for any advice while I get idea.
needs a rebuild. So if price was similar between rebuilding my T5 and a
T18a would you would still prefer the T5? How come offroad.com calles the
T5 a "light weight" tranny, and the T18 a "heavy duty". A V8 Mustang is
still a 2500 pound ish car, where the T-18 was used in 3/4 and 1 ton trucks.
Thanks for your input.
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/t5.html
vs
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/t18.html
vs
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/co...convsm465.html
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:428B85C8.CB6D128D@sympatico.ca...
> As far as I am aware, you now have the best combination going, the Borg
> Warner 'World Class' T5 with the Dana 300 t-case. That T5 is the same
> one Ford puts behind Mustang V8's and is a strong one.
>
> I have abused mine, run it totally dry 20 miles from a road and came
> limping out with it going bang! bang! bang! in every gear except 3rd,
> only to fill it up and keep on going. That was 6 years ago too....
>
> I kinda like mine.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Rusted wrote:
>>
>> The old T5 in the 83 CJ7 with 210K miles is getting a little old, just
>> like
>> the rest of the jeep. It is still working ok, so I am not in a rush, but
>> I
>> would like to start looking for parts and getting ready to replace it.
>> I
>> plan on keeping the Jeep street legal, and street drivable, but want to
>> eventually get up to 35" ish tires, and more off-road capable.
>> So to get started I want a transmission that is strong, and has a crawler
>> gear options. Any opinions or experience with a T18, SM465 or NV4500?
>> I
>> see lots of T18's in jeeps, but not as many SM465. They both should be
>> pretty common, and fairly comparable. Is there a reason we see more
>> T18's
>> in CJ's? Any issues with a SM465 that you would not have with a T18?
>> I
>> figure if I keep an eye out for parts now, and save for the adapters and
>> possibly a rebuild I figure I can do this swap for pretty cheap. I have
>> the D300 t-case, and a 258 engine if that matters with any of your
>> comments.
>> Thanks for any advice while I get idea.
05-18-2005, 02:37 PM
#16
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Posts: n/a
Re: transmission planning for a CJ7
I have felt like I have abused mine as well. With the high miles I know it
needs a rebuild. So if price was similar between rebuilding my T5 and a
T18a would you would still prefer the T5? How come offroad.com calles the
T5 a "light weight" tranny, and the T18 a "heavy duty". A V8 Mustang is
still a 2500 pound ish car, where the T-18 was used in 3/4 and 1 ton trucks.
Thanks for your input.
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/t5.html
vs
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/t18.html
vs
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/co...convsm465.html
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:428B85C8.CB6D128D@sympatico.ca...
> As far as I am aware, you now have the best combination going, the Borg
> Warner 'World Class' T5 with the Dana 300 t-case. That T5 is the same
> one Ford puts behind Mustang V8's and is a strong one.
>
> I have abused mine, run it totally dry 20 miles from a road and came
> limping out with it going bang! bang! bang! in every gear except 3rd,
> only to fill it up and keep on going. That was 6 years ago too....
>
> I kinda like mine.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Rusted wrote:
>>
>> The old T5 in the 83 CJ7 with 210K miles is getting a little old, just
>> like
>> the rest of the jeep. It is still working ok, so I am not in a rush, but
>> I
>> would like to start looking for parts and getting ready to replace it.
>> I
>> plan on keeping the Jeep street legal, and street drivable, but want to
>> eventually get up to 35" ish tires, and more off-road capable.
>> So to get started I want a transmission that is strong, and has a crawler
>> gear options. Any opinions or experience with a T18, SM465 or NV4500?
>> I
>> see lots of T18's in jeeps, but not as many SM465. They both should be
>> pretty common, and fairly comparable. Is there a reason we see more
>> T18's
>> in CJ's? Any issues with a SM465 that you would not have with a T18?
>> I
>> figure if I keep an eye out for parts now, and save for the adapters and
>> possibly a rebuild I figure I can do this swap for pretty cheap. I have
>> the D300 t-case, and a 258 engine if that matters with any of your
>> comments.
>> Thanks for any advice while I get idea.
needs a rebuild. So if price was similar between rebuilding my T5 and a
T18a would you would still prefer the T5? How come offroad.com calles the
T5 a "light weight" tranny, and the T18 a "heavy duty". A V8 Mustang is
still a 2500 pound ish car, where the T-18 was used in 3/4 and 1 ton trucks.
Thanks for your input.
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/t5.html
vs
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/t18.html
vs
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/co...convsm465.html
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:428B85C8.CB6D128D@sympatico.ca...
> As far as I am aware, you now have the best combination going, the Borg
> Warner 'World Class' T5 with the Dana 300 t-case. That T5 is the same
> one Ford puts behind Mustang V8's and is a strong one.
>
> I have abused mine, run it totally dry 20 miles from a road and came
> limping out with it going bang! bang! bang! in every gear except 3rd,
> only to fill it up and keep on going. That was 6 years ago too....
>
> I kinda like mine.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Rusted wrote:
>>
>> The old T5 in the 83 CJ7 with 210K miles is getting a little old, just
>> like
>> the rest of the jeep. It is still working ok, so I am not in a rush, but
>> I
>> would like to start looking for parts and getting ready to replace it.
>> I
>> plan on keeping the Jeep street legal, and street drivable, but want to
>> eventually get up to 35" ish tires, and more off-road capable.
>> So to get started I want a transmission that is strong, and has a crawler
>> gear options. Any opinions or experience with a T18, SM465 or NV4500?
>> I
>> see lots of T18's in jeeps, but not as many SM465. They both should be
>> pretty common, and fairly comparable. Is there a reason we see more
>> T18's
>> in CJ's? Any issues with a SM465 that you would not have with a T18?
>> I
>> figure if I keep an eye out for parts now, and save for the adapters and
>> possibly a rebuild I figure I can do this swap for pretty cheap. I have
>> the D300 t-case, and a 258 engine if that matters with any of your
>> comments.
>> Thanks for any advice while I get idea.
05-18-2005, 02:37 PM
#17
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Posts: n/a
Re: transmission planning for a CJ7
I have felt like I have abused mine as well. With the high miles I know it
needs a rebuild. So if price was similar between rebuilding my T5 and a
T18a would you would still prefer the T5? How come offroad.com calles the
T5 a "light weight" tranny, and the T18 a "heavy duty". A V8 Mustang is
still a 2500 pound ish car, where the T-18 was used in 3/4 and 1 ton trucks.
Thanks for your input.
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/t5.html
vs
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/t18.html
vs
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/co...convsm465.html
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:428B85C8.CB6D128D@sympatico.ca...
> As far as I am aware, you now have the best combination going, the Borg
> Warner 'World Class' T5 with the Dana 300 t-case. That T5 is the same
> one Ford puts behind Mustang V8's and is a strong one.
>
> I have abused mine, run it totally dry 20 miles from a road and came
> limping out with it going bang! bang! bang! in every gear except 3rd,
> only to fill it up and keep on going. That was 6 years ago too....
>
> I kinda like mine.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Rusted wrote:
>>
>> The old T5 in the 83 CJ7 with 210K miles is getting a little old, just
>> like
>> the rest of the jeep. It is still working ok, so I am not in a rush, but
>> I
>> would like to start looking for parts and getting ready to replace it.
>> I
>> plan on keeping the Jeep street legal, and street drivable, but want to
>> eventually get up to 35" ish tires, and more off-road capable.
>> So to get started I want a transmission that is strong, and has a crawler
>> gear options. Any opinions or experience with a T18, SM465 or NV4500?
>> I
>> see lots of T18's in jeeps, but not as many SM465. They both should be
>> pretty common, and fairly comparable. Is there a reason we see more
>> T18's
>> in CJ's? Any issues with a SM465 that you would not have with a T18?
>> I
>> figure if I keep an eye out for parts now, and save for the adapters and
>> possibly a rebuild I figure I can do this swap for pretty cheap. I have
>> the D300 t-case, and a 258 engine if that matters with any of your
>> comments.
>> Thanks for any advice while I get idea.
needs a rebuild. So if price was similar between rebuilding my T5 and a
T18a would you would still prefer the T5? How come offroad.com calles the
T5 a "light weight" tranny, and the T18 a "heavy duty". A V8 Mustang is
still a 2500 pound ish car, where the T-18 was used in 3/4 and 1 ton trucks.
Thanks for your input.
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/t5.html
vs
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/t18.html
vs
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/co...convsm465.html
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:428B85C8.CB6D128D@sympatico.ca...
> As far as I am aware, you now have the best combination going, the Borg
> Warner 'World Class' T5 with the Dana 300 t-case. That T5 is the same
> one Ford puts behind Mustang V8's and is a strong one.
>
> I have abused mine, run it totally dry 20 miles from a road and came
> limping out with it going bang! bang! bang! in every gear except 3rd,
> only to fill it up and keep on going. That was 6 years ago too....
>
> I kinda like mine.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Rusted wrote:
>>
>> The old T5 in the 83 CJ7 with 210K miles is getting a little old, just
>> like
>> the rest of the jeep. It is still working ok, so I am not in a rush, but
>> I
>> would like to start looking for parts and getting ready to replace it.
>> I
>> plan on keeping the Jeep street legal, and street drivable, but want to
>> eventually get up to 35" ish tires, and more off-road capable.
>> So to get started I want a transmission that is strong, and has a crawler
>> gear options. Any opinions or experience with a T18, SM465 or NV4500?
>> I
>> see lots of T18's in jeeps, but not as many SM465. They both should be
>> pretty common, and fairly comparable. Is there a reason we see more
>> T18's
>> in CJ's? Any issues with a SM465 that you would not have with a T18?
>> I
>> figure if I keep an eye out for parts now, and save for the adapters and
>> possibly a rebuild I figure I can do this swap for pretty cheap. I have
>> the D300 t-case, and a 258 engine if that matters with any of your
>> comments.
>> Thanks for any advice while I get idea.
05-18-2005, 03:10 PM
#18
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Posts: n/a
Re: transmission planning for a CJ7
These charts are kind of funny, this lumps my rock crusher T-10 in
with the lite weights: http://www.----------.com/gearchart.html which
holds down over four hundred horsepower:
http://www.----------.com/thunderb.htm
Remember the Atlas II must sacrifice a lot of it's strength cutting
a couple of gears by a quarter in size to get that ratio:
http://www.explorer4x4.com/atlas_2.html They give us an elusion of size,
but if you take a straight edge and go down the side to adjust for
perspective, you will see the cut angles is just too small to take much
power in low range:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/reviews...atlasgears.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Rusted wrote:
>
> Is the T-5 not concidered to be a "light weight" transmission?
>
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/t5.html
>
> For low gears I will probably do a 4:1 kit in the D300 anyways.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:428B86F7.97B14EBC@***.net...
> > Keep what you have and drop differential gears. Ford still uses the
> > T-5 behind the biggest Mustangs. If you need a granny than I guess you
> > go for the '47 Chevy Muncie 465, but that's easiest done behind the
> > Chevy small block, like the other ninety percent of the Real Jeeps:
> > http://www.manoian.net/jeep/350conv.html
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/Trans.html
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Rusted wrote:
> >>
> >> The old T5 in the 83 CJ7 with 210K miles is getting a little old, just
> >> like
> >> the rest of the jeep. It is still working ok, so I am not in a rush, but
> >> I
> >> would like to start looking for parts and getting ready to replace it.
> >> I
> >> plan on keeping the Jeep street legal, and street drivable, but want to
> >> eventually get up to 35" ish tires, and more off-road capable.
> >> So to get started I want a transmission that is strong, and has a crawler
> >> gear options. Any opinions or experience with a T18, SM465 or NV4500?
> >> I
> >> see lots of T18's in jeeps, but not as many SM465. They both should be
> >> pretty common, and fairly comparable. Is there a reason we see more
> >> T18's
> >> in CJ's? Any issues with a SM465 that you would not have with a T18?
> >> I
> >> figure if I keep an eye out for parts now, and save for the adapters and
> >> possibly a rebuild I figure I can do this swap for pretty cheap. I have
> >> the D300 t-case, and a 258 engine if that matters with any of your
> >> comments.
> >> Thanks for any advice while I get idea.
with the lite weights: http://www.----------.com/gearchart.html which
holds down over four hundred horsepower:
http://www.----------.com/thunderb.htm
Remember the Atlas II must sacrifice a lot of it's strength cutting
a couple of gears by a quarter in size to get that ratio:
http://www.explorer4x4.com/atlas_2.html They give us an elusion of size,
but if you take a straight edge and go down the side to adjust for
perspective, you will see the cut angles is just too small to take much
power in low range:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/reviews...atlasgears.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Rusted wrote:
>
> Is the T-5 not concidered to be a "light weight" transmission?
>
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/t5.html
>
> For low gears I will probably do a 4:1 kit in the D300 anyways.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:428B86F7.97B14EBC@***.net...
> > Keep what you have and drop differential gears. Ford still uses the
> > T-5 behind the biggest Mustangs. If you need a granny than I guess you
> > go for the '47 Chevy Muncie 465, but that's easiest done behind the
> > Chevy small block, like the other ninety percent of the Real Jeeps:
> > http://www.manoian.net/jeep/350conv.html
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/Trans.html
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Rusted wrote:
> >>
> >> The old T5 in the 83 CJ7 with 210K miles is getting a little old, just
> >> like
> >> the rest of the jeep. It is still working ok, so I am not in a rush, but
> >> I
> >> would like to start looking for parts and getting ready to replace it.
> >> I
> >> plan on keeping the Jeep street legal, and street drivable, but want to
> >> eventually get up to 35" ish tires, and more off-road capable.
> >> So to get started I want a transmission that is strong, and has a crawler
> >> gear options. Any opinions or experience with a T18, SM465 or NV4500?
> >> I
> >> see lots of T18's in jeeps, but not as many SM465. They both should be
> >> pretty common, and fairly comparable. Is there a reason we see more
> >> T18's
> >> in CJ's? Any issues with a SM465 that you would not have with a T18?
> >> I
> >> figure if I keep an eye out for parts now, and save for the adapters and
> >> possibly a rebuild I figure I can do this swap for pretty cheap. I have
> >> the D300 t-case, and a 258 engine if that matters with any of your
> >> comments.
> >> Thanks for any advice while I get idea.
05-18-2005, 03:10 PM
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: transmission planning for a CJ7
These charts are kind of funny, this lumps my rock crusher T-10 in
with the lite weights: http://www.----------.com/gearchart.html which
holds down over four hundred horsepower:
http://www.----------.com/thunderb.htm
Remember the Atlas II must sacrifice a lot of it's strength cutting
a couple of gears by a quarter in size to get that ratio:
http://www.explorer4x4.com/atlas_2.html They give us an elusion of size,
but if you take a straight edge and go down the side to adjust for
perspective, you will see the cut angles is just too small to take much
power in low range:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/reviews...atlasgears.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Rusted wrote:
>
> Is the T-5 not concidered to be a "light weight" transmission?
>
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/t5.html
>
> For low gears I will probably do a 4:1 kit in the D300 anyways.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:428B86F7.97B14EBC@***.net...
> > Keep what you have and drop differential gears. Ford still uses the
> > T-5 behind the biggest Mustangs. If you need a granny than I guess you
> > go for the '47 Chevy Muncie 465, but that's easiest done behind the
> > Chevy small block, like the other ninety percent of the Real Jeeps:
> > http://www.manoian.net/jeep/350conv.html
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/Trans.html
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Rusted wrote:
> >>
> >> The old T5 in the 83 CJ7 with 210K miles is getting a little old, just
> >> like
> >> the rest of the jeep. It is still working ok, so I am not in a rush, but
> >> I
> >> would like to start looking for parts and getting ready to replace it.
> >> I
> >> plan on keeping the Jeep street legal, and street drivable, but want to
> >> eventually get up to 35" ish tires, and more off-road capable.
> >> So to get started I want a transmission that is strong, and has a crawler
> >> gear options. Any opinions or experience with a T18, SM465 or NV4500?
> >> I
> >> see lots of T18's in jeeps, but not as many SM465. They both should be
> >> pretty common, and fairly comparable. Is there a reason we see more
> >> T18's
> >> in CJ's? Any issues with a SM465 that you would not have with a T18?
> >> I
> >> figure if I keep an eye out for parts now, and save for the adapters and
> >> possibly a rebuild I figure I can do this swap for pretty cheap. I have
> >> the D300 t-case, and a 258 engine if that matters with any of your
> >> comments.
> >> Thanks for any advice while I get idea.
with the lite weights: http://www.----------.com/gearchart.html which
holds down over four hundred horsepower:
http://www.----------.com/thunderb.htm
Remember the Atlas II must sacrifice a lot of it's strength cutting
a couple of gears by a quarter in size to get that ratio:
http://www.explorer4x4.com/atlas_2.html They give us an elusion of size,
but if you take a straight edge and go down the side to adjust for
perspective, you will see the cut angles is just too small to take much
power in low range:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/reviews...atlasgears.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Rusted wrote:
>
> Is the T-5 not concidered to be a "light weight" transmission?
>
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/t5.html
>
> For low gears I will probably do a 4:1 kit in the D300 anyways.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:428B86F7.97B14EBC@***.net...
> > Keep what you have and drop differential gears. Ford still uses the
> > T-5 behind the biggest Mustangs. If you need a granny than I guess you
> > go for the '47 Chevy Muncie 465, but that's easiest done behind the
> > Chevy small block, like the other ninety percent of the Real Jeeps:
> > http://www.manoian.net/jeep/350conv.html
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/Trans.html
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Rusted wrote:
> >>
> >> The old T5 in the 83 CJ7 with 210K miles is getting a little old, just
> >> like
> >> the rest of the jeep. It is still working ok, so I am not in a rush, but
> >> I
> >> would like to start looking for parts and getting ready to replace it.
> >> I
> >> plan on keeping the Jeep street legal, and street drivable, but want to
> >> eventually get up to 35" ish tires, and more off-road capable.
> >> So to get started I want a transmission that is strong, and has a crawler
> >> gear options. Any opinions or experience with a T18, SM465 or NV4500?
> >> I
> >> see lots of T18's in jeeps, but not as many SM465. They both should be
> >> pretty common, and fairly comparable. Is there a reason we see more
> >> T18's
> >> in CJ's? Any issues with a SM465 that you would not have with a T18?
> >> I
> >> figure if I keep an eye out for parts now, and save for the adapters and
> >> possibly a rebuild I figure I can do this swap for pretty cheap. I have
> >> the D300 t-case, and a 258 engine if that matters with any of your
> >> comments.
> >> Thanks for any advice while I get idea.
05-18-2005, 03:10 PM
#20
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: transmission planning for a CJ7
These charts are kind of funny, this lumps my rock crusher T-10 in
with the lite weights: http://www.----------.com/gearchart.html which
holds down over four hundred horsepower:
http://www.----------.com/thunderb.htm
Remember the Atlas II must sacrifice a lot of it's strength cutting
a couple of gears by a quarter in size to get that ratio:
http://www.explorer4x4.com/atlas_2.html They give us an elusion of size,
but if you take a straight edge and go down the side to adjust for
perspective, you will see the cut angles is just too small to take much
power in low range:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/reviews...atlasgears.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Rusted wrote:
>
> Is the T-5 not concidered to be a "light weight" transmission?
>
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/t5.html
>
> For low gears I will probably do a 4:1 kit in the D300 anyways.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:428B86F7.97B14EBC@***.net...
> > Keep what you have and drop differential gears. Ford still uses the
> > T-5 behind the biggest Mustangs. If you need a granny than I guess you
> > go for the '47 Chevy Muncie 465, but that's easiest done behind the
> > Chevy small block, like the other ninety percent of the Real Jeeps:
> > http://www.manoian.net/jeep/350conv.html
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/Trans.html
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Rusted wrote:
> >>
> >> The old T5 in the 83 CJ7 with 210K miles is getting a little old, just
> >> like
> >> the rest of the jeep. It is still working ok, so I am not in a rush, but
> >> I
> >> would like to start looking for parts and getting ready to replace it.
> >> I
> >> plan on keeping the Jeep street legal, and street drivable, but want to
> >> eventually get up to 35" ish tires, and more off-road capable.
> >> So to get started I want a transmission that is strong, and has a crawler
> >> gear options. Any opinions or experience with a T18, SM465 or NV4500?
> >> I
> >> see lots of T18's in jeeps, but not as many SM465. They both should be
> >> pretty common, and fairly comparable. Is there a reason we see more
> >> T18's
> >> in CJ's? Any issues with a SM465 that you would not have with a T18?
> >> I
> >> figure if I keep an eye out for parts now, and save for the adapters and
> >> possibly a rebuild I figure I can do this swap for pretty cheap. I have
> >> the D300 t-case, and a 258 engine if that matters with any of your
> >> comments.
> >> Thanks for any advice while I get idea.
with the lite weights: http://www.----------.com/gearchart.html which
holds down over four hundred horsepower:
http://www.----------.com/thunderb.htm
Remember the Atlas II must sacrifice a lot of it's strength cutting
a couple of gears by a quarter in size to get that ratio:
http://www.explorer4x4.com/atlas_2.html They give us an elusion of size,
but if you take a straight edge and go down the side to adjust for
perspective, you will see the cut angles is just too small to take much
power in low range:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/reviews...atlasgears.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Rusted wrote:
>
> Is the T-5 not concidered to be a "light weight" transmission?
>
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/t5.html
>
> For low gears I will probably do a 4:1 kit in the D300 anyways.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:428B86F7.97B14EBC@***.net...
> > Keep what you have and drop differential gears. Ford still uses the
> > T-5 behind the biggest Mustangs. If you need a granny than I guess you
> > go for the '47 Chevy Muncie 465, but that's easiest done behind the
> > Chevy small block, like the other ninety percent of the Real Jeeps:
> > http://www.manoian.net/jeep/350conv.html
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/Trans.html
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Rusted wrote:
> >>
> >> The old T5 in the 83 CJ7 with 210K miles is getting a little old, just
> >> like
> >> the rest of the jeep. It is still working ok, so I am not in a rush, but
> >> I
> >> would like to start looking for parts and getting ready to replace it.
> >> I
> >> plan on keeping the Jeep street legal, and street drivable, but want to
> >> eventually get up to 35" ish tires, and more off-road capable.
> >> So to get started I want a transmission that is strong, and has a crawler
> >> gear options. Any opinions or experience with a T18, SM465 or NV4500?
> >> I
> >> see lots of T18's in jeeps, but not as many SM465. They both should be
> >> pretty common, and fairly comparable. Is there a reason we see more
> >> T18's
> >> in CJ's? Any issues with a SM465 that you would not have with a T18?
> >> I
> >> figure if I keep an eye out for parts now, and save for the adapters and
> >> possibly a rebuild I figure I can do this swap for pretty cheap. I have
> >> the D300 t-case, and a 258 engine if that matters with any of your
> >> comments.
> >> Thanks for any advice while I get idea.