transmission planning for a CJ7
 

The old T5 in the 83 CJ7 with 210K miles is getting a little old, just like
the rest of the jeep. It is still working ok, so I am not in a rush, but I
would like to start looking for parts and getting ready to replace it. I
plan on keeping the Jeep street legal, and street drivable, but want to
eventually get up to 35" ish tires, and more off-road capable.
So to get started I want a transmission that is strong, and has a crawler
gear options. Any opinions or experience with a T18, SM465 or NV4500? I
see lots of T18's in jeeps, but not as many SM465. They both should be
pretty common, and fairly comparable. Is there a reason we see more T18's
in CJ's? Any issues with a SM465 that you would not have with a T18? I
figure if I keep an eye out for parts now, and save for the adapters and
possibly a rebuild I figure I can do this swap for pretty cheap. I have
the D300 t-case, and a 258 engine if that matters with any of your comments.
Thanks for any advice while I get idea.

Re: transmission planning for a CJ7
 

As far as I am aware, you now have the best combination going, the Borg
Warner 'World Class' T5 with the Dana 300 t-case. That T5 is the same
one Ford puts behind Mustang V8's and is a strong one.

I have abused mine, run it totally dry 20 miles from a road and came
limping out with it going bang! bang! bang! in every gear except 3rd,
only to fill it up and keep on going. That was 6 years ago too....

I kinda like mine.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Rusted wrote:
>
> The old T5 in the 83 CJ7 with 210K miles is getting a little old, just like
> the rest of the jeep. It is still working ok, so I am not in a rush, but I
> would like to start looking for parts and getting ready to replace it. I
> plan on keeping the Jeep street legal, and street drivable, but want to
> eventually get up to 35" ish tires, and more off-road capable.
> So to get started I want a transmission that is strong, and has a crawler
> gear options. Any opinions or experience with a T18, SM465 or NV4500? I
> see lots of T18's in jeeps, but not as many SM465. They both should be
> pretty common, and fairly comparable. Is there a reason we see more T18's
> in CJ's? Any issues with a SM465 that you would not have with a T18? I
> figure if I keep an eye out for parts now, and save for the adapters and
> possibly a rebuild I figure I can do this swap for pretty cheap. I have
> the D300 t-case, and a 258 engine if that matters with any of your comments.
> Thanks for any advice while I get idea.

Re: transmission planning for a CJ7
 

As far as I am aware, you now have the best combination going, the Borg
Warner 'World Class' T5 with the Dana 300 t-case. That T5 is the same
one Ford puts behind Mustang V8's and is a strong one.

I have abused mine, run it totally dry 20 miles from a road and came
limping out with it going bang! bang! bang! in every gear except 3rd,
only to fill it up and keep on going. That was 6 years ago too....

I kinda like mine.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Rusted wrote:
>
> The old T5 in the 83 CJ7 with 210K miles is getting a little old, just like
> the rest of the jeep. It is still working ok, so I am not in a rush, but I
> would like to start looking for parts and getting ready to replace it. I
> plan on keeping the Jeep street legal, and street drivable, but want to
> eventually get up to 35" ish tires, and more off-road capable.
> So to get started I want a transmission that is strong, and has a crawler
> gear options. Any opinions or experience with a T18, SM465 or NV4500? I
> see lots of T18's in jeeps, but not as many SM465. They both should be
> pretty common, and fairly comparable. Is there a reason we see more T18's
> in CJ's? Any issues with a SM465 that you would not have with a T18? I
> figure if I keep an eye out for parts now, and save for the adapters and
> possibly a rebuild I figure I can do this swap for pretty cheap. I have
> the D300 t-case, and a 258 engine if that matters with any of your comments.
> Thanks for any advice while I get idea.

Re: transmission planning for a CJ7
 

As far as I am aware, you now have the best combination going, the Borg
Warner 'World Class' T5 with the Dana 300 t-case. That T5 is the same
one Ford puts behind Mustang V8's and is a strong one.

I have abused mine, run it totally dry 20 miles from a road and came
limping out with it going bang! bang! bang! in every gear except 3rd,
only to fill it up and keep on going. That was 6 years ago too....

I kinda like mine.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Rusted wrote:
>
> The old T5 in the 83 CJ7 with 210K miles is getting a little old, just like
> the rest of the jeep. It is still working ok, so I am not in a rush, but I
> would like to start looking for parts and getting ready to replace it. I
> plan on keeping the Jeep street legal, and street drivable, but want to
> eventually get up to 35" ish tires, and more off-road capable.
> So to get started I want a transmission that is strong, and has a crawler
> gear options. Any opinions or experience with a T18, SM465 or NV4500? I
> see lots of T18's in jeeps, but not as many SM465. They both should be
> pretty common, and fairly comparable. Is there a reason we see more T18's
> in CJ's? Any issues with a SM465 that you would not have with a T18? I
> figure if I keep an eye out for parts now, and save for the adapters and
> possibly a rebuild I figure I can do this swap for pretty cheap. I have
> the D300 t-case, and a 258 engine if that matters with any of your comments.
> Thanks for any advice while I get idea.

Re: transmission planning for a CJ7
 

As far as I am aware, you now have the best combination going, the Borg
Warner 'World Class' T5 with the Dana 300 t-case. That T5 is the same
one Ford puts behind Mustang V8's and is a strong one.

I have abused mine, run it totally dry 20 miles from a road and came
limping out with it going bang! bang! bang! in every gear except 3rd,
only to fill it up and keep on going. That was 6 years ago too....

I kinda like mine.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Rusted wrote:
>
> The old T5 in the 83 CJ7 with 210K miles is getting a little old, just like
> the rest of the jeep. It is still working ok, so I am not in a rush, but I
> would like to start looking for parts and getting ready to replace it. I
> plan on keeping the Jeep street legal, and street drivable, but want to
> eventually get up to 35" ish tires, and more off-road capable.
> So to get started I want a transmission that is strong, and has a crawler
> gear options. Any opinions or experience with a T18, SM465 or NV4500? I
> see lots of T18's in jeeps, but not as many SM465. They both should be
> pretty common, and fairly comparable. Is there a reason we see more T18's
> in CJ's? Any issues with a SM465 that you would not have with a T18? I
> figure if I keep an eye out for parts now, and save for the adapters and
> possibly a rebuild I figure I can do this swap for pretty cheap. I have
> the D300 t-case, and a 258 engine if that matters with any of your comments.
> Thanks for any advice while I get idea.

Re: transmission planning for a CJ7
 

Keep what you have and drop differential gears. Ford still uses the
T-5 behind the biggest Mustangs. If you need a granny than I guess you
go for the '47 Chevy Muncie 465, but that's easiest done behind the
Chevy small block, like the other ninety percent of the Real Jeeps:
http://www.manoian.net/jeep/350conv.html
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/Trans.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Rusted wrote:
>
> The old T5 in the 83 CJ7 with 210K miles is getting a little old, just like
> the rest of the jeep. It is still working ok, so I am not in a rush, but I
> would like to start looking for parts and getting ready to replace it. I
> plan on keeping the Jeep street legal, and street drivable, but want to
> eventually get up to 35" ish tires, and more off-road capable.
> So to get started I want a transmission that is strong, and has a crawler
> gear options. Any opinions or experience with a T18, SM465 or NV4500? I
> see lots of T18's in jeeps, but not as many SM465. They both should be
> pretty common, and fairly comparable. Is there a reason we see more T18's
> in CJ's? Any issues with a SM465 that you would not have with a T18? I
> figure if I keep an eye out for parts now, and save for the adapters and
> possibly a rebuild I figure I can do this swap for pretty cheap. I have
> the D300 t-case, and a 258 engine if that matters with any of your comments.
> Thanks for any advice while I get idea.

Re: transmission planning for a CJ7
 

Keep what you have and drop differential gears. Ford still uses the
T-5 behind the biggest Mustangs. If you need a granny than I guess you
go for the '47 Chevy Muncie 465, but that's easiest done behind the
Chevy small block, like the other ninety percent of the Real Jeeps:
http://www.manoian.net/jeep/350conv.html
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/Trans.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Rusted wrote:
>
> The old T5 in the 83 CJ7 with 210K miles is getting a little old, just like
> the rest of the jeep. It is still working ok, so I am not in a rush, but I
> would like to start looking for parts and getting ready to replace it. I
> plan on keeping the Jeep street legal, and street drivable, but want to
> eventually get up to 35" ish tires, and more off-road capable.
> So to get started I want a transmission that is strong, and has a crawler
> gear options. Any opinions or experience with a T18, SM465 or NV4500? I
> see lots of T18's in jeeps, but not as many SM465. They both should be
> pretty common, and fairly comparable. Is there a reason we see more T18's
> in CJ's? Any issues with a SM465 that you would not have with a T18? I
> figure if I keep an eye out for parts now, and save for the adapters and
> possibly a rebuild I figure I can do this swap for pretty cheap. I have
> the D300 t-case, and a 258 engine if that matters with any of your comments.
> Thanks for any advice while I get idea.

Re: transmission planning for a CJ7
 

Keep what you have and drop differential gears. Ford still uses the
T-5 behind the biggest Mustangs. If you need a granny than I guess you
go for the '47 Chevy Muncie 465, but that's easiest done behind the
Chevy small block, like the other ninety percent of the Real Jeeps:
http://www.manoian.net/jeep/350conv.html
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/Trans.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Rusted wrote:
>
> The old T5 in the 83 CJ7 with 210K miles is getting a little old, just like
> the rest of the jeep. It is still working ok, so I am not in a rush, but I
> would like to start looking for parts and getting ready to replace it. I
> plan on keeping the Jeep street legal, and street drivable, but want to
> eventually get up to 35" ish tires, and more off-road capable.
> So to get started I want a transmission that is strong, and has a crawler
> gear options. Any opinions or experience with a T18, SM465 or NV4500? I
> see lots of T18's in jeeps, but not as many SM465. They both should be
> pretty common, and fairly comparable. Is there a reason we see more T18's
> in CJ's? Any issues with a SM465 that you would not have with a T18? I
> figure if I keep an eye out for parts now, and save for the adapters and
> possibly a rebuild I figure I can do this swap for pretty cheap. I have
> the D300 t-case, and a 258 engine if that matters with any of your comments.
> Thanks for any advice while I get idea.

Re: transmission planning for a CJ7
 

Keep what you have and drop differential gears. Ford still uses the
T-5 behind the biggest Mustangs. If you need a granny than I guess you
go for the '47 Chevy Muncie 465, but that's easiest done behind the
Chevy small block, like the other ninety percent of the Real Jeeps:
http://www.manoian.net/jeep/350conv.html
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/Trans.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Rusted wrote:
>
> The old T5 in the 83 CJ7 with 210K miles is getting a little old, just like
> the rest of the jeep. It is still working ok, so I am not in a rush, but I
> would like to start looking for parts and getting ready to replace it. I
> plan on keeping the Jeep street legal, and street drivable, but want to
> eventually get up to 35" ish tires, and more off-road capable.
> So to get started I want a transmission that is strong, and has a crawler
> gear options. Any opinions or experience with a T18, SM465 or NV4500? I
> see lots of T18's in jeeps, but not as many SM465. They both should be
> pretty common, and fairly comparable. Is there a reason we see more T18's
> in CJ's? Any issues with a SM465 that you would not have with a T18? I
> figure if I keep an eye out for parts now, and save for the adapters and
> possibly a rebuild I figure I can do this swap for pretty cheap. I have
> the D300 t-case, and a 258 engine if that matters with any of your comments.
> Thanks for any advice while I get idea.

Re: transmission planning for a CJ7
 

Is the T-5 not concidered to be a "light weight" transmission?

http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/t5.html

For low gears I will probably do a 4:1 kit in the D300 anyways.



"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:428B86F7.97B14EBC@cox.net...
> Keep what you have and drop differential gears. Ford still uses the
> T-5 behind the biggest Mustangs. If you need a granny than I guess you
> go for the '47 Chevy Muncie 465, but that's easiest done behind the
> Chevy small block, like the other ninety percent of the Real Jeeps:
> http://www.manoian.net/jeep/350conv.html
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/Trans.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Rusted wrote:
>>
>> The old T5 in the 83 CJ7 with 210K miles is getting a little old, just
>> like
>> the rest of the jeep. It is still working ok, so I am not in a rush, but
>> I
>> would like to start looking for parts and getting ready to replace it.
>> I
>> plan on keeping the Jeep street legal, and street drivable, but want to
>> eventually get up to 35" ish tires, and more off-road capable.
>> So to get started I want a transmission that is strong, and has a crawler
>> gear options. Any opinions or experience with a T18, SM465 or NV4500?
>> I
>> see lots of T18's in jeeps, but not as many SM465. They both should be
>> pretty common, and fairly comparable. Is there a reason we see more
>> T18's
>> in CJ's? Any issues with a SM465 that you would not have with a T18?
>> I
>> figure if I keep an eye out for parts now, and save for the adapters and
>> possibly a rebuild I figure I can do this swap for pretty cheap. I have
>> the D300 t-case, and a 258 engine if that matters with any of your
>> comments.
>> Thanks for any advice while I get idea.