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With a few rare exceptions involving water rights, etc. I don't know of
a place in the US where ordinary tresspass laws do not apply. In order
to prosecute, the identification of the culprit is most typically the
responsibility of the person wishing to stop the tresspass and local
fuzz tend to ignore folks after a while who take no steps whatever to
make it possible for police to help. An absentee land owner wanting
help may be asked to at least be able to narrow down times when the
trespass is likely....and if resources are tight, possibly go to the
property [or have someone else do so] and at least get license numbers
of delinquent offroaders. Oddly enough, unless the OP is a total jerk,
[or possibly even if they are] they might find local offroad clubs or
responsible enthusiasts willing to help put a stop to the type of
behavior that ruins it for everyone.
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Inside San Diego County we must have written permission from the
> land owner, or our Sheriffs will write us for trespass.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>Lon,
>>
>>I am not a lawyer, but there is a difference between civil trespass and
>>criminal trespass. There are statutory guidelines and case law particular
>>to every jurisdiction, but in most cases the difference involves
>>"prosecutorial discretion", i.e. whether the police want to get involved or
>>not. If the complainant is perceived as a nut job by the local authorities,
>>there is no personal injury, and property damage is minimal, then it this
>>most likely going to be a civil matter.
>>
>>This does not mean that the property owner has no rights, but it does mean
>>that it will be up to him, at his expense, to enforce them. In the remote
>>case that C. E. White is on the level, then the best advice to him is to
>>contact a lawyer, who will tell him how to protect his property in a legal
>>and effective manner. Maybe the local law enforcement can provide this
>>advice, but it is not really their job.
>>
>>Earle
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With a few rare exceptions involving water rights, etc. I don't know of
a place in the US where ordinary tresspass laws do not apply. In order
to prosecute, the identification of the culprit is most typically the
responsibility of the person wishing to stop the tresspass and local
fuzz tend to ignore folks after a while who take no steps whatever to
make it possible for police to help. An absentee land owner wanting
help may be asked to at least be able to narrow down times when the
trespass is likely....and if resources are tight, possibly go to the
property [or have someone else do so] and at least get license numbers
of delinquent offroaders. Oddly enough, unless the OP is a total jerk,
[or possibly even if they are] they might find local offroad clubs or
responsible enthusiasts willing to help put a stop to the type of
behavior that ruins it for everyone.
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Inside San Diego County we must have written permission from the
> land owner, or our Sheriffs will write us for trespass.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>Lon,
>>
>>I am not a lawyer, but there is a difference between civil trespass and
>>criminal trespass. There are statutory guidelines and case law particular
>>to every jurisdiction, but in most cases the difference involves
>>"prosecutorial discretion", i.e. whether the police want to get involved or
>>not. If the complainant is perceived as a nut job by the local authorities,
>>there is no personal injury, and property damage is minimal, then it this
>>most likely going to be a civil matter.
>>
>>This does not mean that the property owner has no rights, but it does mean
>>that it will be up to him, at his expense, to enforce them. In the remote
>>case that C. E. White is on the level, then the best advice to him is to
>>contact a lawyer, who will tell him how to protect his property in a legal
>>and effective manner. Maybe the local law enforcement can provide this
>>advice, but it is not really their job.
>>
>>Earle
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With a few rare exceptions involving water rights, etc. I don't know of
a place in the US where ordinary tresspass laws do not apply. In order
to prosecute, the identification of the culprit is most typically the
responsibility of the person wishing to stop the tresspass and local
fuzz tend to ignore folks after a while who take no steps whatever to
make it possible for police to help. An absentee land owner wanting
help may be asked to at least be able to narrow down times when the
trespass is likely....and if resources are tight, possibly go to the
property [or have someone else do so] and at least get license numbers
of delinquent offroaders. Oddly enough, unless the OP is a total jerk,
[or possibly even if they are] they might find local offroad clubs or
responsible enthusiasts willing to help put a stop to the type of
behavior that ruins it for everyone.
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Inside San Diego County we must have written permission from the
> land owner, or our Sheriffs will write us for trespass.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>Lon,
>>
>>I am not a lawyer, but there is a difference between civil trespass and
>>criminal trespass. There are statutory guidelines and case law particular
>>to every jurisdiction, but in most cases the difference involves
>>"prosecutorial discretion", i.e. whether the police want to get involved or
>>not. If the complainant is perceived as a nut job by the local authorities,
>>there is no personal injury, and property damage is minimal, then it this
>>most likely going to be a civil matter.
>>
>>This does not mean that the property owner has no rights, but it does mean
>>that it will be up to him, at his expense, to enforce them. In the remote
>>case that C. E. White is on the level, then the best advice to him is to
>>contact a lawyer, who will tell him how to protect his property in a legal
>>and effective manner. Maybe the local law enforcement can provide this
>>advice, but it is not really their job.
>>
>>Earle
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They invested it: In Enron, Arthur Anderson, Halliburton.
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Hi Bill,
> I thought the leftover moneys were always used up by our Government
> without any plan for the principal to be invested to make interest,
> typically doubling every seven years.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> billy ray wrote:
>
>>Social Security wasn't always a Ponzi scheme. A president from what party
>>was responsible?
>>
>>Bonus points for why he spent the cash..
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Hi Bill,
> I thought the leftover moneys were always used up by our Government
> without any plan for the principal to be invested to make interest,
> typically doubling every seven years.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> billy ray wrote:
>
>>Social Security wasn't always a Ponzi scheme. A president from what party
>>was responsible?
>>
>>Bonus points for why he spent the cash..
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They invested it: In Enron, Arthur Anderson, Halliburton.
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Hi Bill,
> I thought the leftover moneys were always used up by our Government
> without any plan for the principal to be invested to make interest,
> typically doubling every seven years.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> billy ray wrote:
>
>>Social Security wasn't always a Ponzi scheme. A president from what party
>>was responsible?
>>
>>Bonus points for why he spent the cash..
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Hi Bill,
> I thought the leftover moneys were always used up by our Government
> without any plan for the principal to be invested to make interest,
> typically doubling every seven years.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> billy ray wrote:
>
>>Social Security wasn't always a Ponzi scheme. A president from what party
>>was responsible?
>>
>>Bonus points for why he spent the cash..
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They invested it: In Enron, Arthur Anderson, Halliburton.
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Hi Bill,
> I thought the leftover moneys were always used up by our Government
> without any plan for the principal to be invested to make interest,
> typically doubling every seven years.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> billy ray wrote:
>
>>Social Security wasn't always a Ponzi scheme. A president from what party
>>was responsible?
>>
>>Bonus points for why he spent the cash..
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Hi Bill,
> I thought the leftover moneys were always used up by our Government
> without any plan for the principal to be invested to make interest,
> typically doubling every seven years.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> billy ray wrote:
>
>>Social Security wasn't always a Ponzi scheme. A president from what party
>>was responsible?
>>
>>Bonus points for why he spent the cash..
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They let you *hike*?
We always had to double-time.
A-8-3, A-8-3
'ray for the army and f**k me!
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Nope, the forced marches our ARMY lead me on pretty well took care
> of any hiking feels I may have had.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>Bill, I'll bet you're in the same hiking club, that Doug and I are in. ;^)
>>
>>Earle
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They let you *hike*?
We always had to double-time.
A-8-3, A-8-3
'ray for the army and f**k me!
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Nope, the forced marches our ARMY lead me on pretty well took care
> of any hiking feels I may have had.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>Bill, I'll bet you're in the same hiking club, that Doug and I are in. ;^)
>>
>>Earle
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They let you *hike*?
We always had to double-time.
A-8-3, A-8-3
'ray for the army and f**k me!
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Nope, the forced marches our ARMY lead me on pretty well took care
> of any hiking feels I may have had.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>>Bill, I'll bet you're in the same hiking club, that Doug and I are in. ;^)
>>
>>Earle
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How could anyone invest in a power company that produced no power?
I thought we had law against the pyramid scam.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> They invested it: In Enron, Arthur Anderson, Halliburton.
I thought we had law against the pyramid scam.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> They invested it: In Enron, Arthur Anderson, Halliburton.


