tow vehicle suggestions
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Re: tow vehicle suggestions
That chart says a Ford F150 is only good to tow 3500#. Is that right??
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> I think if you ever ride in a 3/4 ton truck you'll realize why
> their tow rating is higher, their rear springs are like no spring at
> all: http://www.gonecamping.net/stories/tow_ratings.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> I think if you ever ride in a 3/4 ton truck you'll realize why
> their tow rating is higher, their rear springs are like no spring at
> all: http://www.gonecamping.net/stories/tow_ratings.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
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#82
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Re: tow vehicle suggestions
Could be, they stopped using the 9" for the mustang 8.8 a long time
ago. It's long wheel base make it a pleasure to tow a Jeep, as my Son
with testify: http://members.aol.com/Larr------/lartruck.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> That chart says a Ford F150 is only good to tow 3500#. Is that right??
ago. It's long wheel base make it a pleasure to tow a Jeep, as my Son
with testify: http://members.aol.com/Larr------/lartruck.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> That chart says a Ford F150 is only good to tow 3500#. Is that right??
#83
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Re: tow vehicle suggestions
Could be, they stopped using the 9" for the mustang 8.8 a long time
ago. It's long wheel base make it a pleasure to tow a Jeep, as my Son
with testify: http://members.aol.com/Larr------/lartruck.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> That chart says a Ford F150 is only good to tow 3500#. Is that right??
ago. It's long wheel base make it a pleasure to tow a Jeep, as my Son
with testify: http://members.aol.com/Larr------/lartruck.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> That chart says a Ford F150 is only good to tow 3500#. Is that right??
#84
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Re: tow vehicle suggestions
I can see some merit in the second and I can certainly agree that
practicality dictates the first, but I could never figure out and real
mechanical reason for a hard limit difference even if the real-world
usefullness of a higher limit with the manual is obvious. The GVWR
doesn't change with the tranny type, just the towing.
Maybe it's that we are misreading a Manf. recommendation or drive
train rating for a vehicle limit. Dunno.
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:16:01 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> I am guessing the clutch and 1st gear vs a torque converter figure in
> there.
>
> I am also guessing the auto tranny shifts the weight ratio toward the
> rear wheels more than a standard because of its heavier weight and
> longer length giving the rear wheels slightly more traction or better
> said I guess, slightly more resistance to being pushed out sideways.
>
> Just guesses....
>
> Mike
>
> Will Honea wrote:
> >
> > While not germaine to the original question, do you have any idea WHY
> > the tow rating is degraded with the manual tranny? Same engine, same
> > brakes, same running gear, but 3000# lower towing limit. I could
> > never figure that one out. The MJ with the heavy duty package was
> > rated 7000# and the only difference was a D44 rearend and (probably)
> > larger brakes. As a practical matter, towing with a 5-spd makes for
> > an interesting clutch manipulation breaking free a heavy load but why
> > the difference in ratings limit?
> >
> > BTW, with a decent hitch and pintle hookup I had no problems pulling
> > 4-5 ton hay trailers all over the farm last summer but that was
> > usually 4-LO and maybe 5mph max <g>. Not dumb enough (yet) to try
> > that on pavement.
> >
> > On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:25:57 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Just a thought.
> > >
> > > The Cherokee automatic is rated for 5000 lb towing, the 5 speed is only
> > > rated for the 2000 lb according to my Cherokee owners manual.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > "E.L. Lambert" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > i am in the market for a vehicle that will see dual use as a daily
> > > > driver (40 freeway miles per day) and also for towing my jeep to the
> > > > trail.
> > > >
> > > > i am trying to decide what kind of vehicle to get and i would like to
> > > > hear what others have to say on this. i need more a people hauler and
> > > > not a work vehicle so i have ruled out large pickups such as the
> > > > f-250. i also don't want to break the bank so i have ruled out high
> > > > end SUVs such as the hummer and escalade.
> > > >
> > > > that leaves two options: 1. midsize SUVs such as the GMC Jimmy (sorry
> > > > cherokee fans - DCs website says you can only tow 2000 pounds, and i
> > > > figure a loaded trail jeep + full trailer is at least 5 or 6 thousand
> > > > pounds, which the jimmy can manage, just barely) or 2. heavy sedans
> > > > such as the cadillac seville, lincoln towncar, or mercedes e500.
> > > >
> > > > anyone want to share their experiences with tow vehicles?
> >
> > --
> > Will Honea
--
Will Honea
practicality dictates the first, but I could never figure out and real
mechanical reason for a hard limit difference even if the real-world
usefullness of a higher limit with the manual is obvious. The GVWR
doesn't change with the tranny type, just the towing.
Maybe it's that we are misreading a Manf. recommendation or drive
train rating for a vehicle limit. Dunno.
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:16:01 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> I am guessing the clutch and 1st gear vs a torque converter figure in
> there.
>
> I am also guessing the auto tranny shifts the weight ratio toward the
> rear wheels more than a standard because of its heavier weight and
> longer length giving the rear wheels slightly more traction or better
> said I guess, slightly more resistance to being pushed out sideways.
>
> Just guesses....
>
> Mike
>
> Will Honea wrote:
> >
> > While not germaine to the original question, do you have any idea WHY
> > the tow rating is degraded with the manual tranny? Same engine, same
> > brakes, same running gear, but 3000# lower towing limit. I could
> > never figure that one out. The MJ with the heavy duty package was
> > rated 7000# and the only difference was a D44 rearend and (probably)
> > larger brakes. As a practical matter, towing with a 5-spd makes for
> > an interesting clutch manipulation breaking free a heavy load but why
> > the difference in ratings limit?
> >
> > BTW, with a decent hitch and pintle hookup I had no problems pulling
> > 4-5 ton hay trailers all over the farm last summer but that was
> > usually 4-LO and maybe 5mph max <g>. Not dumb enough (yet) to try
> > that on pavement.
> >
> > On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:25:57 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Just a thought.
> > >
> > > The Cherokee automatic is rated for 5000 lb towing, the 5 speed is only
> > > rated for the 2000 lb according to my Cherokee owners manual.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > "E.L. Lambert" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > i am in the market for a vehicle that will see dual use as a daily
> > > > driver (40 freeway miles per day) and also for towing my jeep to the
> > > > trail.
> > > >
> > > > i am trying to decide what kind of vehicle to get and i would like to
> > > > hear what others have to say on this. i need more a people hauler and
> > > > not a work vehicle so i have ruled out large pickups such as the
> > > > f-250. i also don't want to break the bank so i have ruled out high
> > > > end SUVs such as the hummer and escalade.
> > > >
> > > > that leaves two options: 1. midsize SUVs such as the GMC Jimmy (sorry
> > > > cherokee fans - DCs website says you can only tow 2000 pounds, and i
> > > > figure a loaded trail jeep + full trailer is at least 5 or 6 thousand
> > > > pounds, which the jimmy can manage, just barely) or 2. heavy sedans
> > > > such as the cadillac seville, lincoln towncar, or mercedes e500.
> > > >
> > > > anyone want to share their experiences with tow vehicles?
> >
> > --
> > Will Honea
--
Will Honea
#85
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Re: tow vehicle suggestions
I can see some merit in the second and I can certainly agree that
practicality dictates the first, but I could never figure out and real
mechanical reason for a hard limit difference even if the real-world
usefullness of a higher limit with the manual is obvious. The GVWR
doesn't change with the tranny type, just the towing.
Maybe it's that we are misreading a Manf. recommendation or drive
train rating for a vehicle limit. Dunno.
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:16:01 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> I am guessing the clutch and 1st gear vs a torque converter figure in
> there.
>
> I am also guessing the auto tranny shifts the weight ratio toward the
> rear wheels more than a standard because of its heavier weight and
> longer length giving the rear wheels slightly more traction or better
> said I guess, slightly more resistance to being pushed out sideways.
>
> Just guesses....
>
> Mike
>
> Will Honea wrote:
> >
> > While not germaine to the original question, do you have any idea WHY
> > the tow rating is degraded with the manual tranny? Same engine, same
> > brakes, same running gear, but 3000# lower towing limit. I could
> > never figure that one out. The MJ with the heavy duty package was
> > rated 7000# and the only difference was a D44 rearend and (probably)
> > larger brakes. As a practical matter, towing with a 5-spd makes for
> > an interesting clutch manipulation breaking free a heavy load but why
> > the difference in ratings limit?
> >
> > BTW, with a decent hitch and pintle hookup I had no problems pulling
> > 4-5 ton hay trailers all over the farm last summer but that was
> > usually 4-LO and maybe 5mph max <g>. Not dumb enough (yet) to try
> > that on pavement.
> >
> > On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:25:57 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Just a thought.
> > >
> > > The Cherokee automatic is rated for 5000 lb towing, the 5 speed is only
> > > rated for the 2000 lb according to my Cherokee owners manual.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > "E.L. Lambert" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > i am in the market for a vehicle that will see dual use as a daily
> > > > driver (40 freeway miles per day) and also for towing my jeep to the
> > > > trail.
> > > >
> > > > i am trying to decide what kind of vehicle to get and i would like to
> > > > hear what others have to say on this. i need more a people hauler and
> > > > not a work vehicle so i have ruled out large pickups such as the
> > > > f-250. i also don't want to break the bank so i have ruled out high
> > > > end SUVs such as the hummer and escalade.
> > > >
> > > > that leaves two options: 1. midsize SUVs such as the GMC Jimmy (sorry
> > > > cherokee fans - DCs website says you can only tow 2000 pounds, and i
> > > > figure a loaded trail jeep + full trailer is at least 5 or 6 thousand
> > > > pounds, which the jimmy can manage, just barely) or 2. heavy sedans
> > > > such as the cadillac seville, lincoln towncar, or mercedes e500.
> > > >
> > > > anyone want to share their experiences with tow vehicles?
> >
> > --
> > Will Honea
--
Will Honea
practicality dictates the first, but I could never figure out and real
mechanical reason for a hard limit difference even if the real-world
usefullness of a higher limit with the manual is obvious. The GVWR
doesn't change with the tranny type, just the towing.
Maybe it's that we are misreading a Manf. recommendation or drive
train rating for a vehicle limit. Dunno.
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:16:01 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> I am guessing the clutch and 1st gear vs a torque converter figure in
> there.
>
> I am also guessing the auto tranny shifts the weight ratio toward the
> rear wheels more than a standard because of its heavier weight and
> longer length giving the rear wheels slightly more traction or better
> said I guess, slightly more resistance to being pushed out sideways.
>
> Just guesses....
>
> Mike
>
> Will Honea wrote:
> >
> > While not germaine to the original question, do you have any idea WHY
> > the tow rating is degraded with the manual tranny? Same engine, same
> > brakes, same running gear, but 3000# lower towing limit. I could
> > never figure that one out. The MJ with the heavy duty package was
> > rated 7000# and the only difference was a D44 rearend and (probably)
> > larger brakes. As a practical matter, towing with a 5-spd makes for
> > an interesting clutch manipulation breaking free a heavy load but why
> > the difference in ratings limit?
> >
> > BTW, with a decent hitch and pintle hookup I had no problems pulling
> > 4-5 ton hay trailers all over the farm last summer but that was
> > usually 4-LO and maybe 5mph max <g>. Not dumb enough (yet) to try
> > that on pavement.
> >
> > On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:25:57 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Just a thought.
> > >
> > > The Cherokee automatic is rated for 5000 lb towing, the 5 speed is only
> > > rated for the 2000 lb according to my Cherokee owners manual.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > "E.L. Lambert" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > i am in the market for a vehicle that will see dual use as a daily
> > > > driver (40 freeway miles per day) and also for towing my jeep to the
> > > > trail.
> > > >
> > > > i am trying to decide what kind of vehicle to get and i would like to
> > > > hear what others have to say on this. i need more a people hauler and
> > > > not a work vehicle so i have ruled out large pickups such as the
> > > > f-250. i also don't want to break the bank so i have ruled out high
> > > > end SUVs such as the hummer and escalade.
> > > >
> > > > that leaves two options: 1. midsize SUVs such as the GMC Jimmy (sorry
> > > > cherokee fans - DCs website says you can only tow 2000 pounds, and i
> > > > figure a loaded trail jeep + full trailer is at least 5 or 6 thousand
> > > > pounds, which the jimmy can manage, just barely) or 2. heavy sedans
> > > > such as the cadillac seville, lincoln towncar, or mercedes e500.
> > > >
> > > > anyone want to share their experiences with tow vehicles?
> >
> > --
> > Will Honea
--
Will Honea
#86
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Re: tow vehicle suggestions
Bill, I caught a typo:
It's long wheel base make it a pleasure to tow a REAL Jeep
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F7A60A7.FB418BC8@***.net...
> Could be, they stopped using the 9" for the mustang 8.8 a long time
> ago. It's long wheel base make it a pleasure to tow a Jeep, as my Son
> with testify: http://members.aol.com/Larr------/lartruck.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> twaldron wrote:
> >
> > That chart says a Ford F150 is only good to tow 3500#. Is that right??
It's long wheel base make it a pleasure to tow a REAL Jeep
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F7A60A7.FB418BC8@***.net...
> Could be, they stopped using the 9" for the mustang 8.8 a long time
> ago. It's long wheel base make it a pleasure to tow a Jeep, as my Son
> with testify: http://members.aol.com/Larr------/lartruck.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> twaldron wrote:
> >
> > That chart says a Ford F150 is only good to tow 3500#. Is that right??
#87
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Re: tow vehicle suggestions
Bill, I caught a typo:
It's long wheel base make it a pleasure to tow a REAL Jeep
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F7A60A7.FB418BC8@***.net...
> Could be, they stopped using the 9" for the mustang 8.8 a long time
> ago. It's long wheel base make it a pleasure to tow a Jeep, as my Son
> with testify: http://members.aol.com/Larr------/lartruck.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> twaldron wrote:
> >
> > That chart says a Ford F150 is only good to tow 3500#. Is that right??
It's long wheel base make it a pleasure to tow a REAL Jeep
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F7A60A7.FB418BC8@***.net...
> Could be, they stopped using the 9" for the mustang 8.8 a long time
> ago. It's long wheel base make it a pleasure to tow a Jeep, as my Son
> with testify: http://members.aol.com/Larr------/lartruck.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> twaldron wrote:
> >
> > That chart says a Ford F150 is only good to tow 3500#. Is that right??
#88
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Josh,
I think you are confusing "tow" with "pull". Many vehicles can certainly
PULL well above their rated limits but can't safely TOW that load. I could
PULL 500lbs with my CJ but would I want to TOW that load down a steep hill?
Or ease that load down a boat ramp? No thanks!
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309291324.2423944f@posting.google.c om...
> Take manufacturer recommendations with a grain of salt. Remember they
> are writing that owner's manual with a battalion of liability lawyers
> looking over their shoulders. If the vehicle can safely tow 6,000
> lbs, they probably divide by 3 and put "don't tow more than 2,000 lbs"
> in the manual to cover their butts.
>
> There is no way that towing is such a one size fits all business. If
> you're towing on flat ground and have an 8-cylinder engine and heavy
> duty transmission, and keep it under 55mph, there is no reason a
> cherokee can't tow 5,000 pounds or possibly much more. However if you
> want to drive at max speed and haul something over the continental
> divide that is another matter entirely... so scale your expectations
> accordingly.
I think you are confusing "tow" with "pull". Many vehicles can certainly
PULL well above their rated limits but can't safely TOW that load. I could
PULL 500lbs with my CJ but would I want to TOW that load down a steep hill?
Or ease that load down a boat ramp? No thanks!
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309291324.2423944f@posting.google.c om...
> Take manufacturer recommendations with a grain of salt. Remember they
> are writing that owner's manual with a battalion of liability lawyers
> looking over their shoulders. If the vehicle can safely tow 6,000
> lbs, they probably divide by 3 and put "don't tow more than 2,000 lbs"
> in the manual to cover their butts.
>
> There is no way that towing is such a one size fits all business. If
> you're towing on flat ground and have an 8-cylinder engine and heavy
> duty transmission, and keep it under 55mph, there is no reason a
> cherokee can't tow 5,000 pounds or possibly much more. However if you
> want to drive at max speed and haul something over the continental
> divide that is another matter entirely... so scale your expectations
> accordingly.
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Re: tow vehicle suggestions
Josh,
I think you are confusing "tow" with "pull". Many vehicles can certainly
PULL well above their rated limits but can't safely TOW that load. I could
PULL 500lbs with my CJ but would I want to TOW that load down a steep hill?
Or ease that load down a boat ramp? No thanks!
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309291324.2423944f@posting.google.c om...
> Take manufacturer recommendations with a grain of salt. Remember they
> are writing that owner's manual with a battalion of liability lawyers
> looking over their shoulders. If the vehicle can safely tow 6,000
> lbs, they probably divide by 3 and put "don't tow more than 2,000 lbs"
> in the manual to cover their butts.
>
> There is no way that towing is such a one size fits all business. If
> you're towing on flat ground and have an 8-cylinder engine and heavy
> duty transmission, and keep it under 55mph, there is no reason a
> cherokee can't tow 5,000 pounds or possibly much more. However if you
> want to drive at max speed and haul something over the continental
> divide that is another matter entirely... so scale your expectations
> accordingly.
I think you are confusing "tow" with "pull". Many vehicles can certainly
PULL well above their rated limits but can't safely TOW that load. I could
PULL 500lbs with my CJ but would I want to TOW that load down a steep hill?
Or ease that load down a boat ramp? No thanks!
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309291324.2423944f@posting.google.c om...
> Take manufacturer recommendations with a grain of salt. Remember they
> are writing that owner's manual with a battalion of liability lawyers
> looking over their shoulders. If the vehicle can safely tow 6,000
> lbs, they probably divide by 3 and put "don't tow more than 2,000 lbs"
> in the manual to cover their butts.
>
> There is no way that towing is such a one size fits all business. If
> you're towing on flat ground and have an 8-cylinder engine and heavy
> duty transmission, and keep it under 55mph, there is no reason a
> cherokee can't tow 5,000 pounds or possibly much more. However if you
> want to drive at max speed and haul something over the continental
> divide that is another matter entirely... so scale your expectations
> accordingly.
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Re: tow vehicle suggestions
make that 5000lbs :-)
"Joe" <me@privacy.net (jo_ratner@yahoo.com)> wrote in message
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> Josh,
> I think you are confusing "tow" with "pull". Many vehicles can certainly
> PULL well above their rated limits but can't safely TOW that load. I
could
> PULL 500lbs with my CJ but would I want to TOW that load down a steep
hill?
> Or ease that load down a boat ramp? No thanks!
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309291324.2423944f@posting.google.c om...
> > Take manufacturer recommendations with a grain of salt. Remember they
> > are writing that owner's manual with a battalion of liability lawyers
> > looking over their shoulders. If the vehicle can safely tow 6,000
> > lbs, they probably divide by 3 and put "don't tow more than 2,000 lbs"
> > in the manual to cover their butts.
> >
> > There is no way that towing is such a one size fits all business. If
> > you're towing on flat ground and have an 8-cylinder engine and heavy
> > duty transmission, and keep it under 55mph, there is no reason a
> > cherokee can't tow 5,000 pounds or possibly much more. However if you
> > want to drive at max speed and haul something over the continental
> > divide that is another matter entirely... so scale your expectations
> > accordingly.
>
>
"Joe" <me@privacy.net (jo_ratner@yahoo.com)> wrote in message
news:blelll$bdjd0$1@ID-207166.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Josh,
> I think you are confusing "tow" with "pull". Many vehicles can certainly
> PULL well above their rated limits but can't safely TOW that load. I
could
> PULL 500lbs with my CJ but would I want to TOW that load down a steep
hill?
> Or ease that load down a boat ramp? No thanks!
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309291324.2423944f@posting.google.c om...
> > Take manufacturer recommendations with a grain of salt. Remember they
> > are writing that owner's manual with a battalion of liability lawyers
> > looking over their shoulders. If the vehicle can safely tow 6,000
> > lbs, they probably divide by 3 and put "don't tow more than 2,000 lbs"
> > in the manual to cover their butts.
> >
> > There is no way that towing is such a one size fits all business. If
> > you're towing on flat ground and have an 8-cylinder engine and heavy
> > duty transmission, and keep it under 55mph, there is no reason a
> > cherokee can't tow 5,000 pounds or possibly much more. However if you
> > want to drive at max speed and haul something over the continental
> > divide that is another matter entirely... so scale your expectations
> > accordingly.
>
>