tow vehicle suggestions
09-29-2003, 05:24 PM
#21
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Re: tow vehicle suggestions
Take manufacturer recommendations with a grain of salt. Remember they
are writing that owner's manual with a battalion of liability lawyers
looking over their shoulders. If the vehicle can safely tow 6,000
lbs, they probably divide by 3 and put "don't tow more than 2,000 lbs"
in the manual to cover their butts.
There is no way that towing is such a one size fits all business. If
you're towing on flat ground and have an 8-cylinder engine and heavy
duty transmission, and keep it under 55mph, there is no reason a
cherokee can't tow 5,000 pounds or possibly much more. However if you
want to drive at max speed and haul something over the continental
divide that is another matter entirely... so scale your expectations
accordingly.
are writing that owner's manual with a battalion of liability lawyers
looking over their shoulders. If the vehicle can safely tow 6,000
lbs, they probably divide by 3 and put "don't tow more than 2,000 lbs"
in the manual to cover their butts.
There is no way that towing is such a one size fits all business. If
you're towing on flat ground and have an 8-cylinder engine and heavy
duty transmission, and keep it under 55mph, there is no reason a
cherokee can't tow 5,000 pounds or possibly much more. However if you
want to drive at max speed and haul something over the continental
divide that is another matter entirely... so scale your expectations
accordingly.
09-29-2003, 05:46 PM
#22
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Re: tow vehicle suggestions
Please call me when you are towing anything, I want to be sure I am not on
the road that day.
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
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> Take manufacturer recommendations with a grain of salt. Remember they
> are writing that owner's manual with a battalion of liability lawyers
> looking over their shoulders. If the vehicle can safely tow 6,000
> lbs, they probably divide by 3 and put "don't tow more than 2,000 lbs"
> in the manual to cover their butts.
>
> There is no way that towing is such a one size fits all business. If
> you're towing on flat ground and have an 8-cylinder engine and heavy
> duty transmission, and keep it under 55mph, there is no reason a
> cherokee can't tow 5,000 pounds or possibly much more. However if you
> want to drive at max speed and haul something over the continental
> divide that is another matter entirely... so scale your expectations
> accordingly.
the road that day.
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309291324.2423944f@posting.google.c om...
> Take manufacturer recommendations with a grain of salt. Remember they
> are writing that owner's manual with a battalion of liability lawyers
> looking over their shoulders. If the vehicle can safely tow 6,000
> lbs, they probably divide by 3 and put "don't tow more than 2,000 lbs"
> in the manual to cover their butts.
>
> There is no way that towing is such a one size fits all business. If
> you're towing on flat ground and have an 8-cylinder engine and heavy
> duty transmission, and keep it under 55mph, there is no reason a
> cherokee can't tow 5,000 pounds or possibly much more. However if you
> want to drive at max speed and haul something over the continental
> divide that is another matter entirely... so scale your expectations
> accordingly.
09-29-2003, 05:46 PM
#23
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Re: tow vehicle suggestions
Please call me when you are towing anything, I want to be sure I am not on
the road that day.
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309291324.2423944f@posting.google.c om...
> Take manufacturer recommendations with a grain of salt. Remember they
> are writing that owner's manual with a battalion of liability lawyers
> looking over their shoulders. If the vehicle can safely tow 6,000
> lbs, they probably divide by 3 and put "don't tow more than 2,000 lbs"
> in the manual to cover their butts.
>
> There is no way that towing is such a one size fits all business. If
> you're towing on flat ground and have an 8-cylinder engine and heavy
> duty transmission, and keep it under 55mph, there is no reason a
> cherokee can't tow 5,000 pounds or possibly much more. However if you
> want to drive at max speed and haul something over the continental
> divide that is another matter entirely... so scale your expectations
> accordingly.
the road that day.
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309291324.2423944f@posting.google.c om...
> Take manufacturer recommendations with a grain of salt. Remember they
> are writing that owner's manual with a battalion of liability lawyers
> looking over their shoulders. If the vehicle can safely tow 6,000
> lbs, they probably divide by 3 and put "don't tow more than 2,000 lbs"
> in the manual to cover their butts.
>
> There is no way that towing is such a one size fits all business. If
> you're towing on flat ground and have an 8-cylinder engine and heavy
> duty transmission, and keep it under 55mph, there is no reason a
> cherokee can't tow 5,000 pounds or possibly much more. However if you
> want to drive at max speed and haul something over the continental
> divide that is another matter entirely... so scale your expectations
> accordingly.
09-29-2003, 06:22 PM
#24
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Re: tow vehicle suggestions
Ditto!
Jeff Strickland wrote:
> Please call me when you are towing anything, I want to be sure I am not on
> the road that day.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309291324.2423944f@posting.google.c om...
>
>>Take manufacturer recommendations with a grain of salt. Remember they
>>are writing that owner's manual with a battalion of liability lawyers
>>looking over their shoulders. If the vehicle can safely tow 6,000
>>lbs, they probably divide by 3 and put "don't tow more than 2,000 lbs"
>>in the manual to cover their butts.
>>
>>There is no way that towing is such a one size fits all business. If
>>you're towing on flat ground and have an 8-cylinder engine and heavy
>>duty transmission, and keep it under 55mph, there is no reason a
>>cherokee can't tow 5,000 pounds or possibly much more. However if you
>>want to drive at max speed and haul something over the continental
>>divide that is another matter entirely... so scale your expectations
>>accordingly.
>
>
>
Jeff Strickland wrote:
> Please call me when you are towing anything, I want to be sure I am not on
> the road that day.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309291324.2423944f@posting.google.c om...
>
>>Take manufacturer recommendations with a grain of salt. Remember they
>>are writing that owner's manual with a battalion of liability lawyers
>>looking over their shoulders. If the vehicle can safely tow 6,000
>>lbs, they probably divide by 3 and put "don't tow more than 2,000 lbs"
>>in the manual to cover their butts.
>>
>>There is no way that towing is such a one size fits all business. If
>>you're towing on flat ground and have an 8-cylinder engine and heavy
>>duty transmission, and keep it under 55mph, there is no reason a
>>cherokee can't tow 5,000 pounds or possibly much more. However if you
>>want to drive at max speed and haul something over the continental
>>divide that is another matter entirely... so scale your expectations
>>accordingly.
>
>
>
09-29-2003, 06:22 PM
#25
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Re: tow vehicle suggestions
Ditto!
Jeff Strickland wrote:
> Please call me when you are towing anything, I want to be sure I am not on
> the road that day.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309291324.2423944f@posting.google.c om...
>
>>Take manufacturer recommendations with a grain of salt. Remember they
>>are writing that owner's manual with a battalion of liability lawyers
>>looking over their shoulders. If the vehicle can safely tow 6,000
>>lbs, they probably divide by 3 and put "don't tow more than 2,000 lbs"
>>in the manual to cover their butts.
>>
>>There is no way that towing is such a one size fits all business. If
>>you're towing on flat ground and have an 8-cylinder engine and heavy
>>duty transmission, and keep it under 55mph, there is no reason a
>>cherokee can't tow 5,000 pounds or possibly much more. However if you
>>want to drive at max speed and haul something over the continental
>>divide that is another matter entirely... so scale your expectations
>>accordingly.
>
>
>
Jeff Strickland wrote:
> Please call me when you are towing anything, I want to be sure I am not on
> the road that day.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309291324.2423944f@posting.google.c om...
>
>>Take manufacturer recommendations with a grain of salt. Remember they
>>are writing that owner's manual with a battalion of liability lawyers
>>looking over their shoulders. If the vehicle can safely tow 6,000
>>lbs, they probably divide by 3 and put "don't tow more than 2,000 lbs"
>>in the manual to cover their butts.
>>
>>There is no way that towing is such a one size fits all business. If
>>you're towing on flat ground and have an 8-cylinder engine and heavy
>>duty transmission, and keep it under 55mph, there is no reason a
>>cherokee can't tow 5,000 pounds or possibly much more. However if you
>>want to drive at max speed and haul something over the continental
>>divide that is another matter entirely... so scale your expectations
>>accordingly.
>
>
>
09-29-2003, 06:49 PM
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Re: tow vehicle suggestions
Joshua Nelson wrote:
>Take manufacturer recommendations with a grain of salt <snip>
>If the vehicle can safely tow 6,000 lbs, they probably divide by 3 and put
"don't
>tow more than 2,000 lbs" in the manual to cover their butts. <snip> If you're
towing on
>flat ground and have an 8-cylinder engine
>and heavy duty transmission, and keep it under 55mph, there is no reason a
>cherokee can't tow 5,000 pounds or possibly much more.
Joshua,
Your un-informed "advice" is going to get someone killed. There is a lot more
to towing than weight ratings. A Cherokee is too light AND has too short a
wheelbase to safely tow a jeep.
You shouldn't give advice unless you know what you're talking about.
Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA
http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com
>Take manufacturer recommendations with a grain of salt <snip>
>If the vehicle can safely tow 6,000 lbs, they probably divide by 3 and put
"don't
>tow more than 2,000 lbs" in the manual to cover their butts. <snip> If you're
towing on
>flat ground and have an 8-cylinder engine
>and heavy duty transmission, and keep it under 55mph, there is no reason a
>cherokee can't tow 5,000 pounds or possibly much more.
Joshua,
Your un-informed "advice" is going to get someone killed. There is a lot more
to towing than weight ratings. A Cherokee is too light AND has too short a
wheelbase to safely tow a jeep.
You shouldn't give advice unless you know what you're talking about.
Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA
http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com
09-29-2003, 06:49 PM
#29
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Re: tow vehicle suggestions
Joshua Nelson wrote:
>Take manufacturer recommendations with a grain of salt <snip>
>If the vehicle can safely tow 6,000 lbs, they probably divide by 3 and put
"don't
>tow more than 2,000 lbs" in the manual to cover their butts. <snip> If you're
towing on
>flat ground and have an 8-cylinder engine
>and heavy duty transmission, and keep it under 55mph, there is no reason a
>cherokee can't tow 5,000 pounds or possibly much more.
Joshua,
Your un-informed "advice" is going to get someone killed. There is a lot more
to towing than weight ratings. A Cherokee is too light AND has too short a
wheelbase to safely tow a jeep.
You shouldn't give advice unless you know what you're talking about.
Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA
http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com
>Take manufacturer recommendations with a grain of salt <snip>
>If the vehicle can safely tow 6,000 lbs, they probably divide by 3 and put
"don't
>tow more than 2,000 lbs" in the manual to cover their butts. <snip> If you're
towing on
>flat ground and have an 8-cylinder engine
>and heavy duty transmission, and keep it under 55mph, there is no reason a
>cherokee can't tow 5,000 pounds or possibly much more.
Joshua,
Your un-informed "advice" is going to get someone killed. There is a lot more
to towing than weight ratings. A Cherokee is too light AND has too short a
wheelbase to safely tow a jeep.
You shouldn't give advice unless you know what you're talking about.
Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA
http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
http://www.RobertBills.com
09-29-2003, 07:43 PM
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Re: tow vehicle suggestions
I used to see people all the time pushing the limits of their vehicle back when
I worked for the Forest Service. We called them "wood cutters", it was also
synonymous with "stupid idiot." Every weekend there was a never ending parade
of people that loaded their trucks and trailers to the max and then some with
fire wood, because the manufactures "couldn't really be counted on" to give
accurate load limits for their vehicles. Busted axles, blown tires, accidents,
and injury were common. I would be willing to bet that the manufacturers push
the limits of what their vehicles will do rather than err on the side of safety.
Look at the Dana 35 axle under many of our Jeeps, off road it is marginal at
best.
Bottom line it this is bad advice. If nothing happens, fine. BUT, if there is
an accident you can be assured that the other side WILL have an attorney and the
first question he will ask is was the vehicle overloaded. If the answer is yes,
you can kiss your wallet good bye cause he is going to clean it out.
Dean
On 29 Sep 2003 14:24:32 -0700, spam_box@ev1.net (Joshua Nelson) wrote:
>Take manufacturer recommendations with a grain of salt. Remember they
>are writing that owner's manual with a battalion of liability lawyers
>looking over their shoulders. If the vehicle can safely tow 6,000
>lbs, they probably divide by 3 and put "don't tow more than 2,000 lbs"
>in the manual to cover their butts.
>
>There is no way that towing is such a one size fits all business. If
>you're towing on flat ground and have an 8-cylinder engine and heavy
>duty transmission, and keep it under 55mph, there is no reason a
>cherokee can't tow 5,000 pounds or possibly much more. However if you
>want to drive at max speed and haul something over the continental
>divide that is another matter entirely... so scale your expectations
>accordingly.
I worked for the Forest Service. We called them "wood cutters", it was also
synonymous with "stupid idiot." Every weekend there was a never ending parade
of people that loaded their trucks and trailers to the max and then some with
fire wood, because the manufactures "couldn't really be counted on" to give
accurate load limits for their vehicles. Busted axles, blown tires, accidents,
and injury were common. I would be willing to bet that the manufacturers push
the limits of what their vehicles will do rather than err on the side of safety.
Look at the Dana 35 axle under many of our Jeeps, off road it is marginal at
best.
Bottom line it this is bad advice. If nothing happens, fine. BUT, if there is
an accident you can be assured that the other side WILL have an attorney and the
first question he will ask is was the vehicle overloaded. If the answer is yes,
you can kiss your wallet good bye cause he is going to clean it out.
Dean
On 29 Sep 2003 14:24:32 -0700, spam_box@ev1.net (Joshua Nelson) wrote:
>Take manufacturer recommendations with a grain of salt. Remember they
>are writing that owner's manual with a battalion of liability lawyers
>looking over their shoulders. If the vehicle can safely tow 6,000
>lbs, they probably divide by 3 and put "don't tow more than 2,000 lbs"
>in the manual to cover their butts.
>
>There is no way that towing is such a one size fits all business. If
>you're towing on flat ground and have an 8-cylinder engine and heavy
>duty transmission, and keep it under 55mph, there is no reason a
>cherokee can't tow 5,000 pounds or possibly much more. However if you
>want to drive at max speed and haul something over the continental
>divide that is another matter entirely... so scale your expectations
>accordingly.