Re: TJ vs. JK
 

Thank you, Matt. I not only remember att news, I AM att news. really. I
have not gone away, I have just been in an undisclosed location., but not
with that ignoramus, Dik
chainey. I am using a friend's computer, as I no longer have access to
Outlook express, and people with narrow minds...Ha ha..
Time was, having a Jeep identified one as being just a little bit
different, a little bit daring, perhaps. It certainly meant one was not a
follower, or one who wanted to be just like everyone else.
Chrylser never cought on, the dummies, that trying to make their
so-called Jeeps just like all the other land barges would dilute and ruin
the pedigree, somewhat like crossing a sleek Greyhound with a fat hippo.
which is what krysler has done. (See "Liberty.")

Krysler's dunces thought they could build any old thing and paste on the
letters J and
ee and P and make a Jeep. No way.
Chrysler engineers (?) and stylists (?) were jealous (and rightfully
so, considering their other poor-selling junk) of AMC's artistically and
skillfully designed wide product line. Chrysler borrowed Ford's famous
slogan, "Cheap is job One," and ruined
amc's XJ in oh, so many ways.
The Liberty looks like a fat, bloated Bulldog with long legs, and
handles like one as well. "Tippy-over-easy," as consumer reports, bleated.
If Chrysler bought the Empire State building they would put aluminum
awnings on its windows, and would brag about their improvements.
The new, so-called wrangler, is a grotesque, cartoon-like jeep. It is a
mucked-up charicature. over-blown, over-stuffed, over-priced,
clumsy-looking, and a sad attempt by chrysler to seem "progressive."

I could go on, but I don't want to get started. No serious
sportsman, off-roader, or anyone sensitive to good esthetics and beautiful
proportions and intelligent engineering would even consider one of the new
Jeep "thingies."
The more people that "Jeep" appeals to, the weaker the Jeep "blood-line "
becomes.

Es Verdad.

The above opinions are not necessarily subscribed to by the owner of
the computer that att-news has temporarily hi-jacked.




"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:4uidnZIni7JrXwPbnZ2dnUVZ_rignZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> It must be said that in mid-96 when the '97 Wrangler TJ was released there
> was a huge uproar over the redesign, mainly with the redesign of the
> suspension. (No leaf springs? No bone-jarring ride? It's not a Real Jeep!)
> I think with every redesign you get purists that just can't handle it, and
> long for the good old days. Anyone here remember attnews?
>
> "Brian" <bsheller@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:bsheller-A1AB09.21374718072007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>> It's just different. Maybe some good, maybe some bad. It's all a matter
>> of taste. Many people have an emotional and/or personal attachment to
>> the TJ, and many might just love the capabilities of the new version.
>>
>> What you're missing is that people just have different tastes and
>> different opinions, that's all. And those people will attempt to
>> rationalize their subjective personal feelings by citing the objective
>> physical differences. "Electronic stability control??? That's not a REAL
>> Jeep!!!" What they really mean is, "I don't want MY Jeep to have
>> complicated electronics, I like it the old way." There's absolutely
>> nothing wrong with that.
>>
>> I'll bet the JKs do AWESOME off-road and on-road. But the Jeep I want is
>> a 2006 Rubicon Unlimited. Just my personal preference.
>>
>> B
>>
>> In article <1184791538.410883.168290@j4g2000prf.googlegroups. com>,
>> txjeep7@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> As soon as I saw the photos and read the first specs, my heart has
>>> been racing with desire. Pamela Anderson move over, all my lust is
>>> for the latest and greatest off the Chrysler assembly line!
>>>
>>> But wait. There seems to be a derisive undercurrent of scorn and
>>> disappointment here on the jeep group. People are saying things like
>>> "the TJ is the last wrangler I'll ever buy."
>>>
>>> Why?????? What am I missing? What's wrong with the JK... it sounds
>>> like an offroader's dream!
>>>
>
>

Re: TJ vs. JK
 

You almost had me convinced! :-)

<jcarter10@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:caadnXXcHYijpTjbnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Thank you, Matt. I not only remember att news, I AM att news. really. I
> have not gone away, I have just been in an undisclosed location., but not
> with that ignoramus, Dik
> chainey. I am using a friend's computer, as I no longer have access to
> Outlook express, and people with narrow minds...Ha ha..
> Time was, having a Jeep identified one as being just a little bit
> different, a little bit daring, perhaps. It certainly meant one was not a
> follower, or one who wanted to be just like everyone else.
> Chrylser never cought on, the dummies, that trying to make their
> so-called Jeeps just like all the other land barges would dilute and ruin
> the pedigree, somewhat like crossing a sleek Greyhound with a fat hippo.
> which is what krysler has done. (See "Liberty.")
>
> Krysler's dunces thought they could build any old thing and paste on
> the letters J and
> ee and P and make a Jeep. No way.
> Chrysler engineers (?) and stylists (?) were jealous (and rightfully
> so, considering their other poor-selling junk) of AMC's artistically and
> skillfully designed wide product line. Chrysler borrowed Ford's famous
> slogan, "Cheap is job One," and ruined
> amc's XJ in oh, so many ways.
> The Liberty looks like a fat, bloated Bulldog with long legs, and
> handles like one as well. "Tippy-over-easy," as consumer reports, bleated.
> If Chrysler bought the Empire State building they would put aluminum
> awnings on its windows, and would brag about their improvements.
> The new, so-called wrangler, is a grotesque, cartoon-like jeep. It is
> a mucked-up charicature. over-blown, over-stuffed, over-priced,
> clumsy-looking, and a sad attempt by chrysler to seem "progressive."
>
> I could go on, but I don't want to get started. No serious
> sportsman, off-roader, or anyone sensitive to good esthetics and beautiful
> proportions and intelligent engineering would even consider one of the new
> Jeep "thingies."
> The more people that "Jeep" appeals to, the weaker the Jeep "blood-line
> " becomes.
>
> Es Verdad.
>
> The above opinions are not necessarily subscribed to by the owner of
> the computer that att-news has temporarily hi-jacked.
>
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:4uidnZIni7JrXwPbnZ2dnUVZ_rignZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> It must be said that in mid-96 when the '97 Wrangler TJ was released
>> there was a huge uproar over the redesign, mainly with the redesign of
>> the suspension. (No leaf springs? No bone-jarring ride? It's not a Real
>> Jeep!) I think with every redesign you get purists that just can't handle
>> it, and long for the good old days. Anyone here remember attnews?
>>
>> "Brian" <bsheller@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:bsheller-A1AB09.21374718072007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>> It's just different. Maybe some good, maybe some bad. It's all a matter
>>> of taste. Many people have an emotional and/or personal attachment to
>>> the TJ, and many might just love the capabilities of the new version.
>>>
>>> What you're missing is that people just have different tastes and
>>> different opinions, that's all. And those people will attempt to
>>> rationalize their subjective personal feelings by citing the objective
>>> physical differences. "Electronic stability control??? That's not a REAL
>>> Jeep!!!" What they really mean is, "I don't want MY Jeep to have
>>> complicated electronics, I like it the old way." There's absolutely
>>> nothing wrong with that.
>>>
>>> I'll bet the JKs do AWESOME off-road and on-road. But the Jeep I want is
>>> a 2006 Rubicon Unlimited. Just my personal preference.
>>>
>>> B
>>>
>>> In article <1184791538.410883.168290@j4g2000prf.googlegroups. com>,
>>> txjeep7@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> As soon as I saw the photos and read the first specs, my heart has
>>>> been racing with desire. Pamela Anderson move over, all my lust is
>>>> for the latest and greatest off the Chrysler assembly line!
>>>>
>>>> But wait. There seems to be a derisive undercurrent of scorn and
>>>> disappointment here on the jeep group. People are saying things like
>>>> "the TJ is the last wrangler I'll ever buy."
>>>>
>>>> Why?????? What am I missing? What's wrong with the JK... it sounds
>>>> like an offroader's dream!
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: TJ vs. JK
 

You almost had me convinced! :-)

<jcarter10@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:caadnXXcHYijpTjbnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Thank you, Matt. I not only remember att news, I AM att news. really. I
> have not gone away, I have just been in an undisclosed location., but not
> with that ignoramus, Dik
> chainey. I am using a friend's computer, as I no longer have access to
> Outlook express, and people with narrow minds...Ha ha..
> Time was, having a Jeep identified one as being just a little bit
> different, a little bit daring, perhaps. It certainly meant one was not a
> follower, or one who wanted to be just like everyone else.
> Chrylser never cought on, the dummies, that trying to make their
> so-called Jeeps just like all the other land barges would dilute and ruin
> the pedigree, somewhat like crossing a sleek Greyhound with a fat hippo.
> which is what krysler has done. (See "Liberty.")
>
> Krysler's dunces thought they could build any old thing and paste on
> the letters J and
> ee and P and make a Jeep. No way.
> Chrysler engineers (?) and stylists (?) were jealous (and rightfully
> so, considering their other poor-selling junk) of AMC's artistically and
> skillfully designed wide product line. Chrysler borrowed Ford's famous
> slogan, "Cheap is job One," and ruined
> amc's XJ in oh, so many ways.
> The Liberty looks like a fat, bloated Bulldog with long legs, and
> handles like one as well. "Tippy-over-easy," as consumer reports, bleated.
> If Chrysler bought the Empire State building they would put aluminum
> awnings on its windows, and would brag about their improvements.
> The new, so-called wrangler, is a grotesque, cartoon-like jeep. It is
> a mucked-up charicature. over-blown, over-stuffed, over-priced,
> clumsy-looking, and a sad attempt by chrysler to seem "progressive."
>
> I could go on, but I don't want to get started. No serious
> sportsman, off-roader, or anyone sensitive to good esthetics and beautiful
> proportions and intelligent engineering would even consider one of the new
> Jeep "thingies."
> The more people that "Jeep" appeals to, the weaker the Jeep "blood-line
> " becomes.
>
> Es Verdad.
>
> The above opinions are not necessarily subscribed to by the owner of
> the computer that att-news has temporarily hi-jacked.
>
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:4uidnZIni7JrXwPbnZ2dnUVZ_rignZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> It must be said that in mid-96 when the '97 Wrangler TJ was released
>> there was a huge uproar over the redesign, mainly with the redesign of
>> the suspension. (No leaf springs? No bone-jarring ride? It's not a Real
>> Jeep!) I think with every redesign you get purists that just can't handle
>> it, and long for the good old days. Anyone here remember attnews?
>>
>> "Brian" <bsheller@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:bsheller-A1AB09.21374718072007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>> It's just different. Maybe some good, maybe some bad. It's all a matter
>>> of taste. Many people have an emotional and/or personal attachment to
>>> the TJ, and many might just love the capabilities of the new version.
>>>
>>> What you're missing is that people just have different tastes and
>>> different opinions, that's all. And those people will attempt to
>>> rationalize their subjective personal feelings by citing the objective
>>> physical differences. "Electronic stability control??? That's not a REAL
>>> Jeep!!!" What they really mean is, "I don't want MY Jeep to have
>>> complicated electronics, I like it the old way." There's absolutely
>>> nothing wrong with that.
>>>
>>> I'll bet the JKs do AWESOME off-road and on-road. But the Jeep I want is
>>> a 2006 Rubicon Unlimited. Just my personal preference.
>>>
>>> B
>>>
>>> In article <1184791538.410883.168290@j4g2000prf.googlegroups. com>,
>>> txjeep7@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> As soon as I saw the photos and read the first specs, my heart has
>>>> been racing with desire. Pamela Anderson move over, all my lust is
>>>> for the latest and greatest off the Chrysler assembly line!
>>>>
>>>> But wait. There seems to be a derisive undercurrent of scorn and
>>>> disappointment here on the jeep group. People are saying things like
>>>> "the TJ is the last wrangler I'll ever buy."
>>>>
>>>> Why?????? What am I missing? What's wrong with the JK... it sounds
>>>> like an offroader's dream!
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: TJ vs. JK
 

You almost had me convinced! :-)

<jcarter10@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:caadnXXcHYijpTjbnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Thank you, Matt. I not only remember att news, I AM att news. really. I
> have not gone away, I have just been in an undisclosed location., but not
> with that ignoramus, Dik
> chainey. I am using a friend's computer, as I no longer have access to
> Outlook express, and people with narrow minds...Ha ha..
> Time was, having a Jeep identified one as being just a little bit
> different, a little bit daring, perhaps. It certainly meant one was not a
> follower, or one who wanted to be just like everyone else.
> Chrylser never cought on, the dummies, that trying to make their
> so-called Jeeps just like all the other land barges would dilute and ruin
> the pedigree, somewhat like crossing a sleek Greyhound with a fat hippo.
> which is what krysler has done. (See "Liberty.")
>
> Krysler's dunces thought they could build any old thing and paste on
> the letters J and
> ee and P and make a Jeep. No way.
> Chrysler engineers (?) and stylists (?) were jealous (and rightfully
> so, considering their other poor-selling junk) of AMC's artistically and
> skillfully designed wide product line. Chrysler borrowed Ford's famous
> slogan, "Cheap is job One," and ruined
> amc's XJ in oh, so many ways.
> The Liberty looks like a fat, bloated Bulldog with long legs, and
> handles like one as well. "Tippy-over-easy," as consumer reports, bleated.
> If Chrysler bought the Empire State building they would put aluminum
> awnings on its windows, and would brag about their improvements.
> The new, so-called wrangler, is a grotesque, cartoon-like jeep. It is
> a mucked-up charicature. over-blown, over-stuffed, over-priced,
> clumsy-looking, and a sad attempt by chrysler to seem "progressive."
>
> I could go on, but I don't want to get started. No serious
> sportsman, off-roader, or anyone sensitive to good esthetics and beautiful
> proportions and intelligent engineering would even consider one of the new
> Jeep "thingies."
> The more people that "Jeep" appeals to, the weaker the Jeep "blood-line
> " becomes.
>
> Es Verdad.
>
> The above opinions are not necessarily subscribed to by the owner of
> the computer that att-news has temporarily hi-jacked.
>
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:4uidnZIni7JrXwPbnZ2dnUVZ_rignZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> It must be said that in mid-96 when the '97 Wrangler TJ was released
>> there was a huge uproar over the redesign, mainly with the redesign of
>> the suspension. (No leaf springs? No bone-jarring ride? It's not a Real
>> Jeep!) I think with every redesign you get purists that just can't handle
>> it, and long for the good old days. Anyone here remember attnews?
>>
>> "Brian" <bsheller@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:bsheller-A1AB09.21374718072007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>> It's just different. Maybe some good, maybe some bad. It's all a matter
>>> of taste. Many people have an emotional and/or personal attachment to
>>> the TJ, and many might just love the capabilities of the new version.
>>>
>>> What you're missing is that people just have different tastes and
>>> different opinions, that's all. And those people will attempt to
>>> rationalize their subjective personal feelings by citing the objective
>>> physical differences. "Electronic stability control??? That's not a REAL
>>> Jeep!!!" What they really mean is, "I don't want MY Jeep to have
>>> complicated electronics, I like it the old way." There's absolutely
>>> nothing wrong with that.
>>>
>>> I'll bet the JKs do AWESOME off-road and on-road. But the Jeep I want is
>>> a 2006 Rubicon Unlimited. Just my personal preference.
>>>
>>> B
>>>
>>> In article <1184791538.410883.168290@j4g2000prf.googlegroups. com>,
>>> txjeep7@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> As soon as I saw the photos and read the first specs, my heart has
>>>> been racing with desire. Pamela Anderson move over, all my lust is
>>>> for the latest and greatest off the Chrysler assembly line!
>>>>
>>>> But wait. There seems to be a derisive undercurrent of scorn and
>>>> disappointment here on the jeep group. People are saying things like
>>>> "the TJ is the last wrangler I'll ever buy."
>>>>
>>>> Why?????? What am I missing? What's wrong with the JK... it sounds
>>>> like an offroader's dream!
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: TJ vs. JK
 

You almost had me convinced! :-)

<jcarter10@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:caadnXXcHYijpTjbnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Thank you, Matt. I not only remember att news, I AM att news. really. I
> have not gone away, I have just been in an undisclosed location., but not
> with that ignoramus, Dik
> chainey. I am using a friend's computer, as I no longer have access to
> Outlook express, and people with narrow minds...Ha ha..
> Time was, having a Jeep identified one as being just a little bit
> different, a little bit daring, perhaps. It certainly meant one was not a
> follower, or one who wanted to be just like everyone else.
> Chrylser never cought on, the dummies, that trying to make their
> so-called Jeeps just like all the other land barges would dilute and ruin
> the pedigree, somewhat like crossing a sleek Greyhound with a fat hippo.
> which is what krysler has done. (See "Liberty.")
>
> Krysler's dunces thought they could build any old thing and paste on
> the letters J and
> ee and P and make a Jeep. No way.
> Chrysler engineers (?) and stylists (?) were jealous (and rightfully
> so, considering their other poor-selling junk) of AMC's artistically and
> skillfully designed wide product line. Chrysler borrowed Ford's famous
> slogan, "Cheap is job One," and ruined
> amc's XJ in oh, so many ways.
> The Liberty looks like a fat, bloated Bulldog with long legs, and
> handles like one as well. "Tippy-over-easy," as consumer reports, bleated.
> If Chrysler bought the Empire State building they would put aluminum
> awnings on its windows, and would brag about their improvements.
> The new, so-called wrangler, is a grotesque, cartoon-like jeep. It is
> a mucked-up charicature. over-blown, over-stuffed, over-priced,
> clumsy-looking, and a sad attempt by chrysler to seem "progressive."
>
> I could go on, but I don't want to get started. No serious
> sportsman, off-roader, or anyone sensitive to good esthetics and beautiful
> proportions and intelligent engineering would even consider one of the new
> Jeep "thingies."
> The more people that "Jeep" appeals to, the weaker the Jeep "blood-line
> " becomes.
>
> Es Verdad.
>
> The above opinions are not necessarily subscribed to by the owner of
> the computer that att-news has temporarily hi-jacked.
>
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:4uidnZIni7JrXwPbnZ2dnUVZ_rignZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> It must be said that in mid-96 when the '97 Wrangler TJ was released
>> there was a huge uproar over the redesign, mainly with the redesign of
>> the suspension. (No leaf springs? No bone-jarring ride? It's not a Real
>> Jeep!) I think with every redesign you get purists that just can't handle
>> it, and long for the good old days. Anyone here remember attnews?
>>
>> "Brian" <bsheller@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:bsheller-A1AB09.21374718072007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>> It's just different. Maybe some good, maybe some bad. It's all a matter
>>> of taste. Many people have an emotional and/or personal attachment to
>>> the TJ, and many might just love the capabilities of the new version.
>>>
>>> What you're missing is that people just have different tastes and
>>> different opinions, that's all. And those people will attempt to
>>> rationalize their subjective personal feelings by citing the objective
>>> physical differences. "Electronic stability control??? That's not a REAL
>>> Jeep!!!" What they really mean is, "I don't want MY Jeep to have
>>> complicated electronics, I like it the old way." There's absolutely
>>> nothing wrong with that.
>>>
>>> I'll bet the JKs do AWESOME off-road and on-road. But the Jeep I want is
>>> a 2006 Rubicon Unlimited. Just my personal preference.
>>>
>>> B
>>>
>>> In article <1184791538.410883.168290@j4g2000prf.googlegroups. com>,
>>> txjeep7@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> As soon as I saw the photos and read the first specs, my heart has
>>>> been racing with desire. Pamela Anderson move over, all my lust is
>>>> for the latest and greatest off the Chrysler assembly line!
>>>>
>>>> But wait. There seems to be a derisive undercurrent of scorn and
>>>> disappointment here on the jeep group. People are saying things like
>>>> "the TJ is the last wrangler I'll ever buy."
>>>>
>>>> Why?????? What am I missing? What's wrong with the JK... it sounds
>>>> like an offroader's dream!
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: TJ vs. JK
 

"Brian" <bsheller@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:bsheller-7390C4.22142519072007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> attnews was the first person on RAMJ+W I ever killfiled. ;) Very poor
> signal-to-noise ratio.
>
> I also remember folks saying that leaf spring conversions would be the
> biggest after-market "upgrade" for TJs. Hah!

Yeah, Bill H found one site with someone who converted a TJ to rear leaf
springs and called it a mass exodus!

Re: TJ vs. JK
 

"Brian" <bsheller@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:bsheller-7390C4.22142519072007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> attnews was the first person on RAMJ+W I ever killfiled. ;) Very poor
> signal-to-noise ratio.
>
> I also remember folks saying that leaf spring conversions would be the
> biggest after-market "upgrade" for TJs. Hah!

Yeah, Bill H found one site with someone who converted a TJ to rear leaf
springs and called it a mass exodus!

Re: TJ vs. JK
 

"Brian" <bsheller@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:bsheller-7390C4.22142519072007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> attnews was the first person on RAMJ+W I ever killfiled. ;) Very poor
> signal-to-noise ratio.
>
> I also remember folks saying that leaf spring conversions would be the
> biggest after-market "upgrade" for TJs. Hah!

Yeah, Bill H found one site with someone who converted a TJ to rear leaf
springs and called it a mass exodus!

Re: TJ vs. JK
 

"Brian" <bsheller@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:bsheller-7390C4.22142519072007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> attnews was the first person on RAMJ+W I ever killfiled. ;) Very poor
> signal-to-noise ratio.
>
> I also remember folks saying that leaf spring conversions would be the
> biggest after-market "upgrade" for TJs. Hah!

Yeah, Bill H found one site with someone who converted a TJ to rear leaf
springs and called it a mass exodus!

Re: TJ vs. JK
 

About what? It really was from ATT News who is a longtime friend, but
someone who I constantly disagree with.


"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:fvydnV1sbvey0zjbnZ2dnUVZ_ternZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> You almost had me convinced! :-)
>
> <jcarter10@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:caadnXXcHYijpTjbnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Thank you, Matt. I not only remember att news, I AM att news. really.
>> I have not gone away, I have just been in an undisclosed location., but
>> not with that ignoramus, Dik
>> chainey. I am using a friend's computer, as I no longer have access to
>> Outlook express, and people with narrow minds...Ha ha..
>> Time was, having a Jeep identified one as being just a little bit
>> different, a little bit daring, perhaps. It certainly meant one was not a
>> follower, or one who wanted to be just like everyone else.
>> Chrylser never cought on, the dummies, that trying to make their
>> so-called Jeeps just like all the other land barges would dilute and ruin
>> the pedigree, somewhat like crossing a sleek Greyhound with a fat hippo.
>> which is what krysler has done. (See "Liberty.")
>>
>> Krysler's dunces thought they could build any old thing and paste on
>> the letters J and
>> ee and P and make a Jeep. No way.
>> Chrysler engineers (?) and stylists (?) were jealous (and rightfully
>> so, considering their other poor-selling junk) of AMC's artistically and
>> skillfully designed wide product line. Chrysler borrowed Ford's famous
>> slogan, "Cheap is job One," and ruined
>> amc's XJ in oh, so many ways.
>> The Liberty looks like a fat, bloated Bulldog with long legs, and
>> handles like one as well. "Tippy-over-easy," as consumer reports,
>> bleated.
>> If Chrysler bought the Empire State building they would put aluminum
>> awnings on its windows, and would brag about their improvements.
>> The new, so-called wrangler, is a grotesque, cartoon-like jeep. It is
>> a mucked-up charicature. over-blown, over-stuffed, over-priced,
>> clumsy-looking, and a sad attempt by chrysler to seem "progressive."
>>
>> I could go on, but I don't want to get started. No serious
>> sportsman, off-roader, or anyone sensitive to good esthetics and
>> beautiful proportions and intelligent engineering would even consider one
>> of the new Jeep "thingies."
>> The more people that "Jeep" appeals to, the weaker the Jeep "blood-line
>> " becomes.
>>
>> Es Verdad.
>>
>> The above opinions are not necessarily subscribed to by the owner of
>> the computer that att-news has temporarily hi-jacked.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> news:4uidnZIni7JrXwPbnZ2dnUVZ_rignZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> It must be said that in mid-96 when the '97 Wrangler TJ was released
>>> there was a huge uproar over the redesign, mainly with the redesign of
>>> the suspension. (No leaf springs? No bone-jarring ride? It's not a Real
>>> Jeep!) I think with every redesign you get purists that just can't
>>> handle it, and long for the good old days. Anyone here remember attnews?
>>>
>>> "Brian" <bsheller@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:bsheller-A1AB09.21374718072007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>>> It's just different. Maybe some good, maybe some bad. It's all a matter
>>>> of taste. Many people have an emotional and/or personal attachment to
>>>> the TJ, and many might just love the capabilities of the new version.
>>>>
>>>> What you're missing is that people just have different tastes and
>>>> different opinions, that's all. And those people will attempt to
>>>> rationalize their subjective personal feelings by citing the objective
>>>> physical differences. "Electronic stability control??? That's not a
>>>> REAL
>>>> Jeep!!!" What they really mean is, "I don't want MY Jeep to have
>>>> complicated electronics, I like it the old way." There's absolutely
>>>> nothing wrong with that.
>>>>
>>>> I'll bet the JKs do AWESOME off-road and on-road. But the Jeep I want
>>>> is
>>>> a 2006 Rubicon Unlimited. Just my personal preference.
>>>>
>>>> B
>>>>
>>>> In article <1184791538.410883.168290@j4g2000prf.googlegroups. com>,
>>>> txjeep7@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As soon as I saw the photos and read the first specs, my heart has
>>>>> been racing with desire. Pamela Anderson move over, all my lust is
>>>>> for the latest and greatest off the Chrysler assembly line!
>>>>>
>>>>> But wait. There seems to be a derisive undercurrent of scorn and
>>>>> disappointment here on the jeep group. People are saying things like
>>>>> "the TJ is the last wrangler I'll ever buy."
>>>>>
>>>>> Why?????? What am I missing? What's wrong with the JK... it sounds
>>>>> like an offroader's dream!
>>>>>
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