TJ A/C Issues
06-18-2007, 10:54 PM
#41
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Re: Re: TJ A/C Issues
SnoMan writes:
> Never happen, the low pressure cutout switch would kick in long before
> you even came close to negative pressure.
One would hope so, but the OP said that was faulty.
A leak means you have no pressure sooner or later with the system off.
If it is turned on and runs (faulty low-pressure switch), it will
certainly have negative pressure (vs ambient) on the suction side, and a
leak in that half will pull in air and moisture. Even without running,
a leaky system admits air and moisture slowly after the refrigerant is
gone. Consider that a system that fails due to a refrigerant leak will
often go for months or years before being repaired, so the dessicant
will be saturated, just due to amibent temperature and barometric
cycling.
A/C technicians often have a superstition that their vacuum pump removes
moisture from a contaminated system, including regenerating the
dessicant. Not true. You should replace the dessicant (which means the
whole accumulator on a TJ) if there's any chance it was open to the air,
leaky for a long time, or otherwise compromised.
If you want to regenerate dessicant, you have to bake it. Room
temperature vacuum is not enough.
> Never happen, the low pressure cutout switch would kick in long before
> you even came close to negative pressure.
One would hope so, but the OP said that was faulty.
A leak means you have no pressure sooner or later with the system off.
If it is turned on and runs (faulty low-pressure switch), it will
certainly have negative pressure (vs ambient) on the suction side, and a
leak in that half will pull in air and moisture. Even without running,
a leaky system admits air and moisture slowly after the refrigerant is
gone. Consider that a system that fails due to a refrigerant leak will
often go for months or years before being repaired, so the dessicant
will be saturated, just due to amibent temperature and barometric
cycling.
A/C technicians often have a superstition that their vacuum pump removes
moisture from a contaminated system, including regenerating the
dessicant. Not true. You should replace the dessicant (which means the
whole accumulator on a TJ) if there's any chance it was open to the air,
leaky for a long time, or otherwise compromised.
If you want to regenerate dessicant, you have to bake it. Room
temperature vacuum is not enough.
06-18-2007, 11:51 PM
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Re: Re: TJ A/C Issues
"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
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> If you want to regenerate dessicant, you have to bake it. Room
> temperature vacuum is not enough.
Bake it? Done this? Reliable?
Thanks.
Earle
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> If you want to regenerate dessicant, you have to bake it. Room
> temperature vacuum is not enough.
Bake it? Done this? Reliable?
Thanks.
Earle
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06-18-2007, 11:51 PM
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Re: Re: TJ A/C Issues
"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
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> If you want to regenerate dessicant, you have to bake it. Room
> temperature vacuum is not enough.
Bake it? Done this? Reliable?
Thanks.
Earle
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> If you want to regenerate dessicant, you have to bake it. Room
> temperature vacuum is not enough.
Bake it? Done this? Reliable?
Thanks.
Earle
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06-18-2007, 11:51 PM
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Re: Re: TJ A/C Issues
"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
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> If you want to regenerate dessicant, you have to bake it. Room
> temperature vacuum is not enough.
Bake it? Done this? Reliable?
Thanks.
Earle
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> If you want to regenerate dessicant, you have to bake it. Room
> temperature vacuum is not enough.
Bake it? Done this? Reliable?
Thanks.
Earle
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06-18-2007, 11:51 PM
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Re: Re: TJ A/C Issues
"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
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> If you want to regenerate dessicant, you have to bake it. Room
> temperature vacuum is not enough.
Bake it? Done this? Reliable?
Thanks.
Earle
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>
> If you want to regenerate dessicant, you have to bake it. Room
> temperature vacuum is not enough.
Bake it? Done this? Reliable?
Thanks.
Earle
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06-19-2007, 01:14 AM
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Re: TJ A/C Issues
On Jun 18, 10:54 pm, Richard J Kinch <k...@truetex.com> wrote:
> SnoMan writes:
> > Never happen, the low pressure cutout switch would kick in long before
> > you even came close to negative pressure.
>
> One would hope so, but the OP said that was faulty.
>
> A leak means you have no pressure sooner or later with the system off.
> If it is turned on and runs (faulty low-pressure switch), it will
> certainly have negative pressure (vs ambient) on the suction side, and a
> leak in that half will pull in air and moisture. Even without running,
> a leaky system admits air and moisture slowly after the refrigerant is
> gone. Consider that a system that fails due to a refrigerant leak will
> often go for months or years before being repaired, so the dessicant
> will be saturated, just due to amibent temperature and barometric
> cycling.
>
> A/C technicians often have a superstition that their vacuum pump removes
> moisture from a contaminated system, including regenerating the
> dessicant. Not true. You should replace the dessicant (which means the
> whole accumulator on a TJ) if there's any chance it was open to the air,
> leaky for a long time, or otherwise compromised.
>
> If you want to regenerate dessicant, you have to bake it. Room
> temperature vacuum is not enough.
Low pressure switch is fine, accumulator was replaced again under
warranty along with the compressor to avoid the issue you mentioned.
> SnoMan writes:
> > Never happen, the low pressure cutout switch would kick in long before
> > you even came close to negative pressure.
>
> One would hope so, but the OP said that was faulty.
>
> A leak means you have no pressure sooner or later with the system off.
> If it is turned on and runs (faulty low-pressure switch), it will
> certainly have negative pressure (vs ambient) on the suction side, and a
> leak in that half will pull in air and moisture. Even without running,
> a leaky system admits air and moisture slowly after the refrigerant is
> gone. Consider that a system that fails due to a refrigerant leak will
> often go for months or years before being repaired, so the dessicant
> will be saturated, just due to amibent temperature and barometric
> cycling.
>
> A/C technicians often have a superstition that their vacuum pump removes
> moisture from a contaminated system, including regenerating the
> dessicant. Not true. You should replace the dessicant (which means the
> whole accumulator on a TJ) if there's any chance it was open to the air,
> leaky for a long time, or otherwise compromised.
>
> If you want to regenerate dessicant, you have to bake it. Room
> temperature vacuum is not enough.
Low pressure switch is fine, accumulator was replaced again under
warranty along with the compressor to avoid the issue you mentioned.
06-19-2007, 01:14 AM
#47
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Re: TJ A/C Issues
On Jun 18, 10:54 pm, Richard J Kinch <k...@truetex.com> wrote:
> SnoMan writes:
> > Never happen, the low pressure cutout switch would kick in long before
> > you even came close to negative pressure.
>
> One would hope so, but the OP said that was faulty.
>
> A leak means you have no pressure sooner or later with the system off.
> If it is turned on and runs (faulty low-pressure switch), it will
> certainly have negative pressure (vs ambient) on the suction side, and a
> leak in that half will pull in air and moisture. Even without running,
> a leaky system admits air and moisture slowly after the refrigerant is
> gone. Consider that a system that fails due to a refrigerant leak will
> often go for months or years before being repaired, so the dessicant
> will be saturated, just due to amibent temperature and barometric
> cycling.
>
> A/C technicians often have a superstition that their vacuum pump removes
> moisture from a contaminated system, including regenerating the
> dessicant. Not true. You should replace the dessicant (which means the
> whole accumulator on a TJ) if there's any chance it was open to the air,
> leaky for a long time, or otherwise compromised.
>
> If you want to regenerate dessicant, you have to bake it. Room
> temperature vacuum is not enough.
Low pressure switch is fine, accumulator was replaced again under
warranty along with the compressor to avoid the issue you mentioned.
> SnoMan writes:
> > Never happen, the low pressure cutout switch would kick in long before
> > you even came close to negative pressure.
>
> One would hope so, but the OP said that was faulty.
>
> A leak means you have no pressure sooner or later with the system off.
> If it is turned on and runs (faulty low-pressure switch), it will
> certainly have negative pressure (vs ambient) on the suction side, and a
> leak in that half will pull in air and moisture. Even without running,
> a leaky system admits air and moisture slowly after the refrigerant is
> gone. Consider that a system that fails due to a refrigerant leak will
> often go for months or years before being repaired, so the dessicant
> will be saturated, just due to amibent temperature and barometric
> cycling.
>
> A/C technicians often have a superstition that their vacuum pump removes
> moisture from a contaminated system, including regenerating the
> dessicant. Not true. You should replace the dessicant (which means the
> whole accumulator on a TJ) if there's any chance it was open to the air,
> leaky for a long time, or otherwise compromised.
>
> If you want to regenerate dessicant, you have to bake it. Room
> temperature vacuum is not enough.
Low pressure switch is fine, accumulator was replaced again under
warranty along with the compressor to avoid the issue you mentioned.
06-19-2007, 01:14 AM
#48
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Re: TJ A/C Issues
On Jun 18, 10:54 pm, Richard J Kinch <k...@truetex.com> wrote:
> SnoMan writes:
> > Never happen, the low pressure cutout switch would kick in long before
> > you even came close to negative pressure.
>
> One would hope so, but the OP said that was faulty.
>
> A leak means you have no pressure sooner or later with the system off.
> If it is turned on and runs (faulty low-pressure switch), it will
> certainly have negative pressure (vs ambient) on the suction side, and a
> leak in that half will pull in air and moisture. Even without running,
> a leaky system admits air and moisture slowly after the refrigerant is
> gone. Consider that a system that fails due to a refrigerant leak will
> often go for months or years before being repaired, so the dessicant
> will be saturated, just due to amibent temperature and barometric
> cycling.
>
> A/C technicians often have a superstition that their vacuum pump removes
> moisture from a contaminated system, including regenerating the
> dessicant. Not true. You should replace the dessicant (which means the
> whole accumulator on a TJ) if there's any chance it was open to the air,
> leaky for a long time, or otherwise compromised.
>
> If you want to regenerate dessicant, you have to bake it. Room
> temperature vacuum is not enough.
Low pressure switch is fine, accumulator was replaced again under
warranty along with the compressor to avoid the issue you mentioned.
> SnoMan writes:
> > Never happen, the low pressure cutout switch would kick in long before
> > you even came close to negative pressure.
>
> One would hope so, but the OP said that was faulty.
>
> A leak means you have no pressure sooner or later with the system off.
> If it is turned on and runs (faulty low-pressure switch), it will
> certainly have negative pressure (vs ambient) on the suction side, and a
> leak in that half will pull in air and moisture. Even without running,
> a leaky system admits air and moisture slowly after the refrigerant is
> gone. Consider that a system that fails due to a refrigerant leak will
> often go for months or years before being repaired, so the dessicant
> will be saturated, just due to amibent temperature and barometric
> cycling.
>
> A/C technicians often have a superstition that their vacuum pump removes
> moisture from a contaminated system, including regenerating the
> dessicant. Not true. You should replace the dessicant (which means the
> whole accumulator on a TJ) if there's any chance it was open to the air,
> leaky for a long time, or otherwise compromised.
>
> If you want to regenerate dessicant, you have to bake it. Room
> temperature vacuum is not enough.
Low pressure switch is fine, accumulator was replaced again under
warranty along with the compressor to avoid the issue you mentioned.
06-19-2007, 01:14 AM
#49
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Re: TJ A/C Issues
On Jun 18, 10:54 pm, Richard J Kinch <k...@truetex.com> wrote:
> SnoMan writes:
> > Never happen, the low pressure cutout switch would kick in long before
> > you even came close to negative pressure.
>
> One would hope so, but the OP said that was faulty.
>
> A leak means you have no pressure sooner or later with the system off.
> If it is turned on and runs (faulty low-pressure switch), it will
> certainly have negative pressure (vs ambient) on the suction side, and a
> leak in that half will pull in air and moisture. Even without running,
> a leaky system admits air and moisture slowly after the refrigerant is
> gone. Consider that a system that fails due to a refrigerant leak will
> often go for months or years before being repaired, so the dessicant
> will be saturated, just due to amibent temperature and barometric
> cycling.
>
> A/C technicians often have a superstition that their vacuum pump removes
> moisture from a contaminated system, including regenerating the
> dessicant. Not true. You should replace the dessicant (which means the
> whole accumulator on a TJ) if there's any chance it was open to the air,
> leaky for a long time, or otherwise compromised.
>
> If you want to regenerate dessicant, you have to bake it. Room
> temperature vacuum is not enough.
Low pressure switch is fine, accumulator was replaced again under
warranty along with the compressor to avoid the issue you mentioned.
> SnoMan writes:
> > Never happen, the low pressure cutout switch would kick in long before
> > you even came close to negative pressure.
>
> One would hope so, but the OP said that was faulty.
>
> A leak means you have no pressure sooner or later with the system off.
> If it is turned on and runs (faulty low-pressure switch), it will
> certainly have negative pressure (vs ambient) on the suction side, and a
> leak in that half will pull in air and moisture. Even without running,
> a leaky system admits air and moisture slowly after the refrigerant is
> gone. Consider that a system that fails due to a refrigerant leak will
> often go for months or years before being repaired, so the dessicant
> will be saturated, just due to amibent temperature and barometric
> cycling.
>
> A/C technicians often have a superstition that their vacuum pump removes
> moisture from a contaminated system, including regenerating the
> dessicant. Not true. You should replace the dessicant (which means the
> whole accumulator on a TJ) if there's any chance it was open to the air,
> leaky for a long time, or otherwise compromised.
>
> If you want to regenerate dessicant, you have to bake it. Room
> temperature vacuum is not enough.
Low pressure switch is fine, accumulator was replaced again under
warranty along with the compressor to avoid the issue you mentioned.
