TJ A/C Issues
06-20-2007, 07:45 PM
#81
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TJ A/C Issues
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:36:35 -0500, Richard J Kinch
<kinch@truetex.com> wrote:
>Not necessarily. Lots of things hold on to water at that temperature by
>virtue of hydration energy. This is one reason you need a dessicant in the
>system to start with. Water is tenacious and wonderfully hard to get out
>of things. The "universal solvent" would rather stay dissolved.
The vapor pressure on steam is pretty high and the surface tension of
the oil at that temp is pretty low so oil would not hold it in. In R12
system they used desicant to keep mosture out primarily to prevent ice
crystals from blocking orifce. On a R134 system, water reacts with
R134 and forms a acid which eats aluminum so it is kinda REALLY
important with a R134 system.
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TheSnoMan.com
<kinch@truetex.com> wrote:
>Not necessarily. Lots of things hold on to water at that temperature by
>virtue of hydration energy. This is one reason you need a dessicant in the
>system to start with. Water is tenacious and wonderfully hard to get out
>of things. The "universal solvent" would rather stay dissolved.
The vapor pressure on steam is pretty high and the surface tension of
the oil at that temp is pretty low so oil would not hold it in. In R12
system they used desicant to keep mosture out primarily to prevent ice
crystals from blocking orifce. On a R134 system, water reacts with
R134 and forms a acid which eats aluminum so it is kinda REALLY
important with a R134 system.
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TheSnoMan.com
06-20-2007, 08:41 PM
#82
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Re: TJ A/C Issues
In article <Xns9955BDA0EFF2Dsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131>,
kinch@truetex.com says...
> Heatwave writes:
>
> > Trying to save yourself 20 or so bucks by baking
> > your old accumulator.
>
> The time or place may come where you have no option.
No option? I'd rather do without a/c than as to do a **** poor job that
will more than likely ruin the system and make the next repair on the
system that much more costly.
> Please tell me where you can get an accumulator with installation for $20.
With installation? Please find me a place that will "bake your
accumulator" since you now switched from a, half assed DIY job, to
someone doing it for you. Yes I've gotten accumulators that cheap.
Depends on make and model.
kinch@truetex.com says...
> Heatwave writes:
>
> > Trying to save yourself 20 or so bucks by baking
> > your old accumulator.
>
> The time or place may come where you have no option.
No option? I'd rather do without a/c than as to do a **** poor job that
will more than likely ruin the system and make the next repair on the
system that much more costly.
> Please tell me where you can get an accumulator with installation for $20.
With installation? Please find me a place that will "bake your
accumulator" since you now switched from a, half assed DIY job, to
someone doing it for you. Yes I've gotten accumulators that cheap.
Depends on make and model.
06-20-2007, 08:41 PM
#83
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Re: TJ A/C Issues
In article <Xns9955BDA0EFF2Dsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131>,
kinch@truetex.com says...
> Heatwave writes:
>
> > Trying to save yourself 20 or so bucks by baking
> > your old accumulator.
>
> The time or place may come where you have no option.
No option? I'd rather do without a/c than as to do a **** poor job that
will more than likely ruin the system and make the next repair on the
system that much more costly.
> Please tell me where you can get an accumulator with installation for $20.
With installation? Please find me a place that will "bake your
accumulator" since you now switched from a, half assed DIY job, to
someone doing it for you. Yes I've gotten accumulators that cheap.
Depends on make and model.
kinch@truetex.com says...
> Heatwave writes:
>
> > Trying to save yourself 20 or so bucks by baking
> > your old accumulator.
>
> The time or place may come where you have no option.
No option? I'd rather do without a/c than as to do a **** poor job that
will more than likely ruin the system and make the next repair on the
system that much more costly.
> Please tell me where you can get an accumulator with installation for $20.
With installation? Please find me a place that will "bake your
accumulator" since you now switched from a, half assed DIY job, to
someone doing it for you. Yes I've gotten accumulators that cheap.
Depends on make and model.
06-20-2007, 08:41 PM
#84
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Re: TJ A/C Issues
In article <Xns9955BDA0EFF2Dsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131>,
kinch@truetex.com says...
> Heatwave writes:
>
> > Trying to save yourself 20 or so bucks by baking
> > your old accumulator.
>
> The time or place may come where you have no option.
No option? I'd rather do without a/c than as to do a **** poor job that
will more than likely ruin the system and make the next repair on the
system that much more costly.
> Please tell me where you can get an accumulator with installation for $20.
With installation? Please find me a place that will "bake your
accumulator" since you now switched from a, half assed DIY job, to
someone doing it for you. Yes I've gotten accumulators that cheap.
Depends on make and model.
kinch@truetex.com says...
> Heatwave writes:
>
> > Trying to save yourself 20 or so bucks by baking
> > your old accumulator.
>
> The time or place may come where you have no option.
No option? I'd rather do without a/c than as to do a **** poor job that
will more than likely ruin the system and make the next repair on the
system that much more costly.
> Please tell me where you can get an accumulator with installation for $20.
With installation? Please find me a place that will "bake your
accumulator" since you now switched from a, half assed DIY job, to
someone doing it for you. Yes I've gotten accumulators that cheap.
Depends on make and model.
06-20-2007, 08:41 PM
#85
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Re: TJ A/C Issues
In article <Xns9955BDA0EFF2Dsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131>,
kinch@truetex.com says...
> Heatwave writes:
>
> > Trying to save yourself 20 or so bucks by baking
> > your old accumulator.
>
> The time or place may come where you have no option.
No option? I'd rather do without a/c than as to do a **** poor job that
will more than likely ruin the system and make the next repair on the
system that much more costly.
> Please tell me where you can get an accumulator with installation for $20.
With installation? Please find me a place that will "bake your
accumulator" since you now switched from a, half assed DIY job, to
someone doing it for you. Yes I've gotten accumulators that cheap.
Depends on make and model.
kinch@truetex.com says...
> Heatwave writes:
>
> > Trying to save yourself 20 or so bucks by baking
> > your old accumulator.
>
> The time or place may come where you have no option.
No option? I'd rather do without a/c than as to do a **** poor job that
will more than likely ruin the system and make the next repair on the
system that much more costly.
> Please tell me where you can get an accumulator with installation for $20.
With installation? Please find me a place that will "bake your
accumulator" since you now switched from a, half assed DIY job, to
someone doing it for you. Yes I've gotten accumulators that cheap.
Depends on make and model.
06-20-2007, 10:00 PM
#86
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TJ A/C Issues
SnoMan writes:
> The vapor pressure on steam is pretty high and the surface tension of
> the oil at that temp is pretty low so oil would not hold it in.
The issue is not vapor pressure vs surface tension, but the energy needed
to break hydration bonds.
> The vapor pressure on steam is pretty high and the surface tension of
> the oil at that temp is pretty low so oil would not hold it in.
The issue is not vapor pressure vs surface tension, but the energy needed
to break hydration bonds.
06-20-2007, 10:00 PM
#87
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TJ A/C Issues
SnoMan writes:
> The vapor pressure on steam is pretty high and the surface tension of
> the oil at that temp is pretty low so oil would not hold it in.
The issue is not vapor pressure vs surface tension, but the energy needed
to break hydration bonds.
> The vapor pressure on steam is pretty high and the surface tension of
> the oil at that temp is pretty low so oil would not hold it in.
The issue is not vapor pressure vs surface tension, but the energy needed
to break hydration bonds.
06-20-2007, 10:00 PM
#88
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TJ A/C Issues
SnoMan writes:
> The vapor pressure on steam is pretty high and the surface tension of
> the oil at that temp is pretty low so oil would not hold it in.
The issue is not vapor pressure vs surface tension, but the energy needed
to break hydration bonds.
> The vapor pressure on steam is pretty high and the surface tension of
> the oil at that temp is pretty low so oil would not hold it in.
The issue is not vapor pressure vs surface tension, but the energy needed
to break hydration bonds.
06-20-2007, 10:00 PM
#89
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TJ A/C Issues
SnoMan writes:
> The vapor pressure on steam is pretty high and the surface tension of
> the oil at that temp is pretty low so oil would not hold it in.
The issue is not vapor pressure vs surface tension, but the energy needed
to break hydration bonds.
> The vapor pressure on steam is pretty high and the surface tension of
> the oil at that temp is pretty low so oil would not hold it in.
The issue is not vapor pressure vs surface tension, but the energy needed
to break hydration bonds.
06-20-2007, 10:04 PM
#90
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Re: TJ A/C Issues
Heatwave writes:
>> The time or place may come where you have no option.
>
> No option?
Right. I guess you've never had to improvise in wartime, or in the 3rd
world, or whenever the TJ becomes enough of an antique that NAPA doesn't
stock your A/C parts any more.
> Yes I've gotten accumulators that cheap.
Right. For a TJ.
>> The time or place may come where you have no option.
>
> No option?
Right. I guess you've never had to improvise in wartime, or in the 3rd
world, or whenever the TJ becomes enough of an antique that NAPA doesn't
stock your A/C parts any more.
> Yes I've gotten accumulators that cheap.
Right. For a TJ.