tire wear
03-20-2006, 02:23 PM
#41
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Re: tire wear
....that's what I said.
later,
Spdloader
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
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> Once your tires begin to wear 'funny' they will never wear correctly.
>
> Rotate them to the rear and accept that you will have to get them
> rebalanced repeatedly throughout their remaining life.
>
>
> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:2dATf.70536$%84.52036@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>> Yes, when one wheel or the other is out of toe, you actually get some
>> wear on both tires because the toe is divided between the two in order
>> for the vehicle to go straight down the road. Once a tire wear pattern
>> from it is set though, you don't get that rubber back, so the tires will
>> continue to wear funny, and may get noisy, or start to pull, if the wear
>> is bad enough.
>> If the back tires are in better shape, I'd have all four balanced and
>> then rotated. Tire wear changes the balance of the tire, an out of
>> balance tire increases wear on the tire, and wear on related suspension
>> components, and eventually, you "back side" once the out of balance
>> condition starts to vibrate.
>> Good luck man,
>>
>> Spdloader
>>
>>
>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:bwzTf.2268$qX6.48454@news20.bellglobal.com...
>>> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
>>> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
>>> bad then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe
>>> out on the pax side...
>>>
>>> Snow...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>>>> Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering, across
>>>> the tread.
>>>>
>>>> Spdloader
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
>>>>> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner
>>>>> edges (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare,
>>>>> This suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this
>>>>> I have found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas
>>>>> what too look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Snow...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
later,
Spdloader
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:d1b1e$441ef7de$4831b233$30065@FUSE.NET...
> Once your tires begin to wear 'funny' they will never wear correctly.
>
> Rotate them to the rear and accept that you will have to get them
> rebalanced repeatedly throughout their remaining life.
>
>
> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:2dATf.70536$%84.52036@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>> Yes, when one wheel or the other is out of toe, you actually get some
>> wear on both tires because the toe is divided between the two in order
>> for the vehicle to go straight down the road. Once a tire wear pattern
>> from it is set though, you don't get that rubber back, so the tires will
>> continue to wear funny, and may get noisy, or start to pull, if the wear
>> is bad enough.
>> If the back tires are in better shape, I'd have all four balanced and
>> then rotated. Tire wear changes the balance of the tire, an out of
>> balance tire increases wear on the tire, and wear on related suspension
>> components, and eventually, you "back side" once the out of balance
>> condition starts to vibrate.
>> Good luck man,
>>
>> Spdloader
>>
>>
>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:bwzTf.2268$qX6.48454@news20.bellglobal.com...
>>> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
>>> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
>>> bad then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe
>>> out on the pax side...
>>>
>>> Snow...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>>>> Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering, across
>>>> the tread.
>>>>
>>>> Spdloader
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
>>>>> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner
>>>>> edges (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare,
>>>>> This suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this
>>>>> I have found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas
>>>>> what too look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Snow...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
03-20-2006, 02:41 PM
#42
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Posts: n/a
Re: tire wear
I will be running across Canada from Toronto to Halifax, about 1001
miles each way door to door...
Mike
Tomes wrote:
>
> Going anywhere near New Jersey Mike?
> Tomes
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:441EC943.FB403D45@sympatico.ca...
> > There you go....
> >
> > Mine is also doing that and Steve from this group is coming over today
> > to help with an alignment, rotate the tires and new wheel bearings on
> > the one side that I think it needs. My one wheel is tilting out top and
> > side and flopping a bit... Not bad, 6 years on this set turning 33's...
> >
> > It would figure, for once I get the locking hubs holding on nice and
> > tight with no issues and I need to rip them apart to repack the wheel
> > bearings. Time to get the CJ7 all tightened back up. Might be heading
> > to the east coast this year for a visit so need to be ready for 3000
> > miles or so.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Snow wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
> >> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
> >> bad
> >> then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe out
> >> on
> >> the pax side...
> >>
> >> Snow...
> >>
> >> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
> >> > Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering, across
> >> > the tread.
> >> >
> >> > Spdloader
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> > news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
> >> >> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner
> >> >> edges
> >> >> (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare, This
> >> >> suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this I
> >> >> have
> >> >> found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas what too
> >> >> look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Snow...
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
miles each way door to door...
Mike
Tomes wrote:
>
> Going anywhere near New Jersey Mike?
> Tomes
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:441EC943.FB403D45@sympatico.ca...
> > There you go....
> >
> > Mine is also doing that and Steve from this group is coming over today
> > to help with an alignment, rotate the tires and new wheel bearings on
> > the one side that I think it needs. My one wheel is tilting out top and
> > side and flopping a bit... Not bad, 6 years on this set turning 33's...
> >
> > It would figure, for once I get the locking hubs holding on nice and
> > tight with no issues and I need to rip them apart to repack the wheel
> > bearings. Time to get the CJ7 all tightened back up. Might be heading
> > to the east coast this year for a visit so need to be ready for 3000
> > miles or so.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Snow wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
> >> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
> >> bad
> >> then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe out
> >> on
> >> the pax side...
> >>
> >> Snow...
> >>
> >> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
> >> > Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering, across
> >> > the tread.
> >> >
> >> > Spdloader
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> > news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
> >> >> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner
> >> >> edges
> >> >> (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare, This
> >> >> suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this I
> >> >> have
> >> >> found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas what too
> >> >> look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Snow...
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
03-20-2006, 02:41 PM
#43
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: tire wear
I will be running across Canada from Toronto to Halifax, about 1001
miles each way door to door...
Mike
Tomes wrote:
>
> Going anywhere near New Jersey Mike?
> Tomes
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:441EC943.FB403D45@sympatico.ca...
> > There you go....
> >
> > Mine is also doing that and Steve from this group is coming over today
> > to help with an alignment, rotate the tires and new wheel bearings on
> > the one side that I think it needs. My one wheel is tilting out top and
> > side and flopping a bit... Not bad, 6 years on this set turning 33's...
> >
> > It would figure, for once I get the locking hubs holding on nice and
> > tight with no issues and I need to rip them apart to repack the wheel
> > bearings. Time to get the CJ7 all tightened back up. Might be heading
> > to the east coast this year for a visit so need to be ready for 3000
> > miles or so.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Snow wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
> >> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
> >> bad
> >> then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe out
> >> on
> >> the pax side...
> >>
> >> Snow...
> >>
> >> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
> >> > Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering, across
> >> > the tread.
> >> >
> >> > Spdloader
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> > news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
> >> >> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner
> >> >> edges
> >> >> (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare, This
> >> >> suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this I
> >> >> have
> >> >> found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas what too
> >> >> look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Snow...
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
miles each way door to door...
Mike
Tomes wrote:
>
> Going anywhere near New Jersey Mike?
> Tomes
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:441EC943.FB403D45@sympatico.ca...
> > There you go....
> >
> > Mine is also doing that and Steve from this group is coming over today
> > to help with an alignment, rotate the tires and new wheel bearings on
> > the one side that I think it needs. My one wheel is tilting out top and
> > side and flopping a bit... Not bad, 6 years on this set turning 33's...
> >
> > It would figure, for once I get the locking hubs holding on nice and
> > tight with no issues and I need to rip them apart to repack the wheel
> > bearings. Time to get the CJ7 all tightened back up. Might be heading
> > to the east coast this year for a visit so need to be ready for 3000
> > miles or so.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Snow wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
> >> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
> >> bad
> >> then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe out
> >> on
> >> the pax side...
> >>
> >> Snow...
> >>
> >> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
> >> > Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering, across
> >> > the tread.
> >> >
> >> > Spdloader
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> > news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
> >> >> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner
> >> >> edges
> >> >> (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare, This
> >> >> suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this I
> >> >> have
> >> >> found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas what too
> >> >> look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Snow...
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
03-20-2006, 02:41 PM
#44
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: tire wear
I will be running across Canada from Toronto to Halifax, about 1001
miles each way door to door...
Mike
Tomes wrote:
>
> Going anywhere near New Jersey Mike?
> Tomes
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:441EC943.FB403D45@sympatico.ca...
> > There you go....
> >
> > Mine is also doing that and Steve from this group is coming over today
> > to help with an alignment, rotate the tires and new wheel bearings on
> > the one side that I think it needs. My one wheel is tilting out top and
> > side and flopping a bit... Not bad, 6 years on this set turning 33's...
> >
> > It would figure, for once I get the locking hubs holding on nice and
> > tight with no issues and I need to rip them apart to repack the wheel
> > bearings. Time to get the CJ7 all tightened back up. Might be heading
> > to the east coast this year for a visit so need to be ready for 3000
> > miles or so.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Snow wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
> >> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
> >> bad
> >> then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe out
> >> on
> >> the pax side...
> >>
> >> Snow...
> >>
> >> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
> >> > Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering, across
> >> > the tread.
> >> >
> >> > Spdloader
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> > news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
> >> >> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner
> >> >> edges
> >> >> (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare, This
> >> >> suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this I
> >> >> have
> >> >> found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas what too
> >> >> look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Snow...
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
miles each way door to door...
Mike
Tomes wrote:
>
> Going anywhere near New Jersey Mike?
> Tomes
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:441EC943.FB403D45@sympatico.ca...
> > There you go....
> >
> > Mine is also doing that and Steve from this group is coming over today
> > to help with an alignment, rotate the tires and new wheel bearings on
> > the one side that I think it needs. My one wheel is tilting out top and
> > side and flopping a bit... Not bad, 6 years on this set turning 33's...
> >
> > It would figure, for once I get the locking hubs holding on nice and
> > tight with no issues and I need to rip them apart to repack the wheel
> > bearings. Time to get the CJ7 all tightened back up. Might be heading
> > to the east coast this year for a visit so need to be ready for 3000
> > miles or so.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Snow wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
> >> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
> >> bad
> >> then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe out
> >> on
> >> the pax side...
> >>
> >> Snow...
> >>
> >> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
> >> > Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering, across
> >> > the tread.
> >> >
> >> > Spdloader
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> > news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
> >> >> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner
> >> >> edges
> >> >> (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare, This
> >> >> suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this I
> >> >> have
> >> >> found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas what too
> >> >> look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Snow...
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
03-20-2006, 02:41 PM
#45
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: tire wear
I will be running across Canada from Toronto to Halifax, about 1001
miles each way door to door...
Mike
Tomes wrote:
>
> Going anywhere near New Jersey Mike?
> Tomes
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:441EC943.FB403D45@sympatico.ca...
> > There you go....
> >
> > Mine is also doing that and Steve from this group is coming over today
> > to help with an alignment, rotate the tires and new wheel bearings on
> > the one side that I think it needs. My one wheel is tilting out top and
> > side and flopping a bit... Not bad, 6 years on this set turning 33's...
> >
> > It would figure, for once I get the locking hubs holding on nice and
> > tight with no issues and I need to rip them apart to repack the wheel
> > bearings. Time to get the CJ7 all tightened back up. Might be heading
> > to the east coast this year for a visit so need to be ready for 3000
> > miles or so.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Snow wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
> >> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
> >> bad
> >> then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe out
> >> on
> >> the pax side...
> >>
> >> Snow...
> >>
> >> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
> >> > Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering, across
> >> > the tread.
> >> >
> >> > Spdloader
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> > news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
> >> >> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner
> >> >> edges
> >> >> (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare, This
> >> >> suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this I
> >> >> have
> >> >> found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas what too
> >> >> look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Snow...
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
miles each way door to door...
Mike
Tomes wrote:
>
> Going anywhere near New Jersey Mike?
> Tomes
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:441EC943.FB403D45@sympatico.ca...
> > There you go....
> >
> > Mine is also doing that and Steve from this group is coming over today
> > to help with an alignment, rotate the tires and new wheel bearings on
> > the one side that I think it needs. My one wheel is tilting out top and
> > side and flopping a bit... Not bad, 6 years on this set turning 33's...
> >
> > It would figure, for once I get the locking hubs holding on nice and
> > tight with no issues and I need to rip them apart to repack the wheel
> > bearings. Time to get the CJ7 all tightened back up. Might be heading
> > to the east coast this year for a visit so need to be ready for 3000
> > miles or so.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Snow wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
> >> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
> >> bad
> >> then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe out
> >> on
> >> the pax side...
> >>
> >> Snow...
> >>
> >> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
> >> > Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering, across
> >> > the tread.
> >> >
> >> > Spdloader
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> > news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
> >> >> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner
> >> >> edges
> >> >> (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare, This
> >> >> suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this I
> >> >> have
> >> >> found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas what too
> >> >> look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Snow...
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
03-20-2006, 06:07 PM
#46
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Re: tire wear
Enjoy it then. If you are ever around NJ, let me know...
Tomes
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:441F057A.392246BD@sympatico.ca...
>I will be running across Canada from Toronto to Halifax, about 1001
> miles each way door to door...
>
> Mike
>
> Tomes wrote:
>>
>> Going anywhere near New Jersey Mike?
>> Tomes
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:441EC943.FB403D45@sympatico.ca...
>> > There you go....
>> >
>> > Mine is also doing that and Steve from this group is coming over today
>> > to help with an alignment, rotate the tires and new wheel bearings on
>> > the one side that I think it needs. My one wheel is tilting out top
>> > and
>> > side and flopping a bit... Not bad, 6 years on this set turning
>> > 33's...
>> >
>> > It would figure, for once I get the locking hubs holding on nice and
>> > tight with no issues and I need to rip them apart to repack the wheel
>> > bearings. Time to get the CJ7 all tightened back up. Might be heading
>> > to the east coast this year for a visit so need to be ready for 3000
>> > miles or so.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Snow wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
>> >> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
>> >> bad
>> >> then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe
>> >> out
>> >> on
>> >> the pax side...
>> >>
>> >> Snow...
>> >>
>> >> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>> >> > Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering,
>> >> > across
>> >> > the tread.
>> >> >
>> >> > Spdloader
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >> > news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
>> >> >> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner
>> >> >> edges
>> >> >> (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare, This
>> >> >> suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this I
>> >> >> have
>> >> >> found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas what
>> >> >> too
>> >> >> look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Snow...
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
Tomes
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:441F057A.392246BD@sympatico.ca...
>I will be running across Canada from Toronto to Halifax, about 1001
> miles each way door to door...
>
> Mike
>
> Tomes wrote:
>>
>> Going anywhere near New Jersey Mike?
>> Tomes
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:441EC943.FB403D45@sympatico.ca...
>> > There you go....
>> >
>> > Mine is also doing that and Steve from this group is coming over today
>> > to help with an alignment, rotate the tires and new wheel bearings on
>> > the one side that I think it needs. My one wheel is tilting out top
>> > and
>> > side and flopping a bit... Not bad, 6 years on this set turning
>> > 33's...
>> >
>> > It would figure, for once I get the locking hubs holding on nice and
>> > tight with no issues and I need to rip them apart to repack the wheel
>> > bearings. Time to get the CJ7 all tightened back up. Might be heading
>> > to the east coast this year for a visit so need to be ready for 3000
>> > miles or so.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Snow wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
>> >> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
>> >> bad
>> >> then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe
>> >> out
>> >> on
>> >> the pax side...
>> >>
>> >> Snow...
>> >>
>> >> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>> >> > Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering,
>> >> > across
>> >> > the tread.
>> >> >
>> >> > Spdloader
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >> > news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
>> >> >> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner
>> >> >> edges
>> >> >> (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare, This
>> >> >> suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this I
>> >> >> have
>> >> >> found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas what
>> >> >> too
>> >> >> look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Snow...
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
03-20-2006, 06:07 PM
#47
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: tire wear
Enjoy it then. If you are ever around NJ, let me know...
Tomes
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:441F057A.392246BD@sympatico.ca...
>I will be running across Canada from Toronto to Halifax, about 1001
> miles each way door to door...
>
> Mike
>
> Tomes wrote:
>>
>> Going anywhere near New Jersey Mike?
>> Tomes
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:441EC943.FB403D45@sympatico.ca...
>> > There you go....
>> >
>> > Mine is also doing that and Steve from this group is coming over today
>> > to help with an alignment, rotate the tires and new wheel bearings on
>> > the one side that I think it needs. My one wheel is tilting out top
>> > and
>> > side and flopping a bit... Not bad, 6 years on this set turning
>> > 33's...
>> >
>> > It would figure, for once I get the locking hubs holding on nice and
>> > tight with no issues and I need to rip them apart to repack the wheel
>> > bearings. Time to get the CJ7 all tightened back up. Might be heading
>> > to the east coast this year for a visit so need to be ready for 3000
>> > miles or so.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Snow wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
>> >> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
>> >> bad
>> >> then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe
>> >> out
>> >> on
>> >> the pax side...
>> >>
>> >> Snow...
>> >>
>> >> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>> >> > Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering,
>> >> > across
>> >> > the tread.
>> >> >
>> >> > Spdloader
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >> > news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
>> >> >> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner
>> >> >> edges
>> >> >> (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare, This
>> >> >> suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this I
>> >> >> have
>> >> >> found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas what
>> >> >> too
>> >> >> look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Snow...
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
Tomes
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:441F057A.392246BD@sympatico.ca...
>I will be running across Canada from Toronto to Halifax, about 1001
> miles each way door to door...
>
> Mike
>
> Tomes wrote:
>>
>> Going anywhere near New Jersey Mike?
>> Tomes
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:441EC943.FB403D45@sympatico.ca...
>> > There you go....
>> >
>> > Mine is also doing that and Steve from this group is coming over today
>> > to help with an alignment, rotate the tires and new wheel bearings on
>> > the one side that I think it needs. My one wheel is tilting out top
>> > and
>> > side and flopping a bit... Not bad, 6 years on this set turning
>> > 33's...
>> >
>> > It would figure, for once I get the locking hubs holding on nice and
>> > tight with no issues and I need to rip them apart to repack the wheel
>> > bearings. Time to get the CJ7 all tightened back up. Might be heading
>> > to the east coast this year for a visit so need to be ready for 3000
>> > miles or so.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Snow wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
>> >> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
>> >> bad
>> >> then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe
>> >> out
>> >> on
>> >> the pax side...
>> >>
>> >> Snow...
>> >>
>> >> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>> >> > Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering,
>> >> > across
>> >> > the tread.
>> >> >
>> >> > Spdloader
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >> > news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
>> >> >> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner
>> >> >> edges
>> >> >> (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare, This
>> >> >> suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this I
>> >> >> have
>> >> >> found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas what
>> >> >> too
>> >> >> look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Snow...
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
03-20-2006, 06:07 PM
#48
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: tire wear
Enjoy it then. If you are ever around NJ, let me know...
Tomes
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:441F057A.392246BD@sympatico.ca...
>I will be running across Canada from Toronto to Halifax, about 1001
> miles each way door to door...
>
> Mike
>
> Tomes wrote:
>>
>> Going anywhere near New Jersey Mike?
>> Tomes
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:441EC943.FB403D45@sympatico.ca...
>> > There you go....
>> >
>> > Mine is also doing that and Steve from this group is coming over today
>> > to help with an alignment, rotate the tires and new wheel bearings on
>> > the one side that I think it needs. My one wheel is tilting out top
>> > and
>> > side and flopping a bit... Not bad, 6 years on this set turning
>> > 33's...
>> >
>> > It would figure, for once I get the locking hubs holding on nice and
>> > tight with no issues and I need to rip them apart to repack the wheel
>> > bearings. Time to get the CJ7 all tightened back up. Might be heading
>> > to the east coast this year for a visit so need to be ready for 3000
>> > miles or so.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Snow wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
>> >> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
>> >> bad
>> >> then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe
>> >> out
>> >> on
>> >> the pax side...
>> >>
>> >> Snow...
>> >>
>> >> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>> >> > Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering,
>> >> > across
>> >> > the tread.
>> >> >
>> >> > Spdloader
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >> > news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
>> >> >> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner
>> >> >> edges
>> >> >> (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare, This
>> >> >> suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this I
>> >> >> have
>> >> >> found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas what
>> >> >> too
>> >> >> look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Snow...
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
Tomes
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:441F057A.392246BD@sympatico.ca...
>I will be running across Canada from Toronto to Halifax, about 1001
> miles each way door to door...
>
> Mike
>
> Tomes wrote:
>>
>> Going anywhere near New Jersey Mike?
>> Tomes
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:441EC943.FB403D45@sympatico.ca...
>> > There you go....
>> >
>> > Mine is also doing that and Steve from this group is coming over today
>> > to help with an alignment, rotate the tires and new wheel bearings on
>> > the one side that I think it needs. My one wheel is tilting out top
>> > and
>> > side and flopping a bit... Not bad, 6 years on this set turning
>> > 33's...
>> >
>> > It would figure, for once I get the locking hubs holding on nice and
>> > tight with no issues and I need to rip them apart to repack the wheel
>> > bearings. Time to get the CJ7 all tightened back up. Might be heading
>> > to the east coast this year for a visit so need to be ready for 3000
>> > miles or so.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Snow wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
>> >> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
>> >> bad
>> >> then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe
>> >> out
>> >> on
>> >> the pax side...
>> >>
>> >> Snow...
>> >>
>> >> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>> >> > Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering,
>> >> > across
>> >> > the tread.
>> >> >
>> >> > Spdloader
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >> > news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
>> >> >> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner
>> >> >> edges
>> >> >> (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare, This
>> >> >> suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this I
>> >> >> have
>> >> >> found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas what
>> >> >> too
>> >> >> look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Snow...
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
03-20-2006, 06:07 PM
#49
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: tire wear
Enjoy it then. If you are ever around NJ, let me know...
Tomes
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:441F057A.392246BD@sympatico.ca...
>I will be running across Canada from Toronto to Halifax, about 1001
> miles each way door to door...
>
> Mike
>
> Tomes wrote:
>>
>> Going anywhere near New Jersey Mike?
>> Tomes
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:441EC943.FB403D45@sympatico.ca...
>> > There you go....
>> >
>> > Mine is also doing that and Steve from this group is coming over today
>> > to help with an alignment, rotate the tires and new wheel bearings on
>> > the one side that I think it needs. My one wheel is tilting out top
>> > and
>> > side and flopping a bit... Not bad, 6 years on this set turning
>> > 33's...
>> >
>> > It would figure, for once I get the locking hubs holding on nice and
>> > tight with no issues and I need to rip them apart to repack the wheel
>> > bearings. Time to get the CJ7 all tightened back up. Might be heading
>> > to the east coast this year for a visit so need to be ready for 3000
>> > miles or so.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Snow wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
>> >> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
>> >> bad
>> >> then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe
>> >> out
>> >> on
>> >> the pax side...
>> >>
>> >> Snow...
>> >>
>> >> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>> >> > Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering,
>> >> > across
>> >> > the tread.
>> >> >
>> >> > Spdloader
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >> > news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
>> >> >> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner
>> >> >> edges
>> >> >> (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare, This
>> >> >> suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this I
>> >> >> have
>> >> >> found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas what
>> >> >> too
>> >> >> look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Snow...
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
Tomes
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:441F057A.392246BD@sympatico.ca...
>I will be running across Canada from Toronto to Halifax, about 1001
> miles each way door to door...
>
> Mike
>
> Tomes wrote:
>>
>> Going anywhere near New Jersey Mike?
>> Tomes
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:441EC943.FB403D45@sympatico.ca...
>> > There you go....
>> >
>> > Mine is also doing that and Steve from this group is coming over today
>> > to help with an alignment, rotate the tires and new wheel bearings on
>> > the one side that I think it needs. My one wheel is tilting out top
>> > and
>> > side and flopping a bit... Not bad, 6 years on this set turning
>> > 33's...
>> >
>> > It would figure, for once I get the locking hubs holding on nice and
>> > tight with no issues and I need to rip them apart to repack the wheel
>> > bearings. Time to get the CJ7 all tightened back up. Might be heading
>> > to the east coast this year for a visit so need to be ready for 3000
>> > miles or so.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Snow wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
>> >> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
>> >> bad
>> >> then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe
>> >> out
>> >> on
>> >> the pax side...
>> >>
>> >> Snow...
>> >>
>> >> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>> >> > Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering,
>> >> > across
>> >> > the tread.
>> >> >
>> >> > Spdloader
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >> > news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
>> >> >> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner
>> >> >> edges
>> >> >> (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare, This
>> >> >> suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this I
>> >> >> have
>> >> >> found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas what
>> >> >> too
>> >> >> look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Snow...
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
03-20-2006, 07:01 PM
#50
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: tire wear
Hi Snow,
That tire wear may indicate a bad wheel or king pin bearings. Jack
that wheel off the ground and lever over a pivot block to see where the
wheel flopping back and forth is coming from.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Snow wrote:
>
> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner edges
> (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare, This suggests
> a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this I have found that
> the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas what too look for prior to
> taking it into the alignment shop?
>
> Snow...
That tire wear may indicate a bad wheel or king pin bearings. Jack
that wheel off the ground and lever over a pivot block to see where the
wheel flopping back and forth is coming from.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Snow wrote:
>
> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner edges
> (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare, This suggests
> a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this I have found that
> the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas what too look for prior to
> taking it into the alignment shop?
>
> Snow...
