tire wear
03-20-2006, 11:59 AM
#31
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Re: tire wear
http://www.cowtownjeeps.com/index.as...tech/align.htm
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
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Snow wrote:
> If you'd be so kind to provide the info on how to do this I'd appreciate it,
> pics would be great too, but a write will do. If its something I can do in
> a couple hours on a Saturday (about the only day the zj is in the drive)
> I'll give it a shot...
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
Snow wrote:
> If you'd be so kind to provide the info on how to do this I'd appreciate it,
> pics would be great too, but a write will do. If its something I can do in
> a couple hours on a Saturday (about the only day the zj is in the drive)
> I'll give it a shot...
03-20-2006, 11:59 AM
#32
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Re: tire wear
http://www.cowtownjeeps.com/index.as...tech/align.htm
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
Snow wrote:
> If you'd be so kind to provide the info on how to do this I'd appreciate it,
> pics would be great too, but a write will do. If its something I can do in
> a couple hours on a Saturday (about the only day the zj is in the drive)
> I'll give it a shot...
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
Snow wrote:
> If you'd be so kind to provide the info on how to do this I'd appreciate it,
> pics would be great too, but a write will do. If its something I can do in
> a couple hours on a Saturday (about the only day the zj is in the drive)
> I'll give it a shot...
03-20-2006, 11:59 AM
#33
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Posts: n/a
Re: tire wear
http://www.cowtownjeeps.com/index.as...tech/align.htm
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
Snow wrote:
> If you'd be so kind to provide the info on how to do this I'd appreciate it,
> pics would be great too, but a write will do. If its something I can do in
> a couple hours on a Saturday (about the only day the zj is in the drive)
> I'll give it a shot...
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
Snow wrote:
> If you'd be so kind to provide the info on how to do this I'd appreciate it,
> pics would be great too, but a write will do. If its something I can do in
> a couple hours on a Saturday (about the only day the zj is in the drive)
> I'll give it a shot...
03-20-2006, 01:39 PM
#34
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Posts: n/a
Re: tire wear
Once your tires begin to wear 'funny' they will never wear correctly.
Rotate them to the rear and accept that you will have to get them rebalanced
repeatedly throughout their remaining life.
"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:2dATf.70536$%84.52036@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
> Yes, when one wheel or the other is out of toe, you actually get some wear
> on both tires because the toe is divided between the two in order for the
> vehicle to go straight down the road. Once a tire wear pattern from it is
> set though, you don't get that rubber back, so the tires will continue to
> wear funny, and may get noisy, or start to pull, if the wear is bad
> enough.
> If the back tires are in better shape, I'd have all four balanced and then
> rotated. Tire wear changes the balance of the tire, an out of balance tire
> increases wear on the tire, and wear on related suspension components, and
> eventually, you "back side" once the out of balance condition starts to
> vibrate.
> Good luck man,
>
> Spdloader
>
>
> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:bwzTf.2268$qX6.48454@news20.bellglobal.com...
>> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
>> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
>> bad then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe
>> out on the pax side...
>>
>> Snow...
>>
>>
>> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>>> Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering, across
>>> the tread.
>>>
>>> Spdloader
>>>
>>>
>>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
>>>> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner edges
>>>> (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare, This
>>>> suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this I have
>>>> found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas what too
>>>> look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Snow...
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Rotate them to the rear and accept that you will have to get them rebalanced
repeatedly throughout their remaining life.
"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:2dATf.70536$%84.52036@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
> Yes, when one wheel or the other is out of toe, you actually get some wear
> on both tires because the toe is divided between the two in order for the
> vehicle to go straight down the road. Once a tire wear pattern from it is
> set though, you don't get that rubber back, so the tires will continue to
> wear funny, and may get noisy, or start to pull, if the wear is bad
> enough.
> If the back tires are in better shape, I'd have all four balanced and then
> rotated. Tire wear changes the balance of the tire, an out of balance tire
> increases wear on the tire, and wear on related suspension components, and
> eventually, you "back side" once the out of balance condition starts to
> vibrate.
> Good luck man,
>
> Spdloader
>
>
> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:bwzTf.2268$qX6.48454@news20.bellglobal.com...
>> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
>> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
>> bad then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe
>> out on the pax side...
>>
>> Snow...
>>
>>
>> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>>> Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering, across
>>> the tread.
>>>
>>> Spdloader
>>>
>>>
>>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
>>>> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner edges
>>>> (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare, This
>>>> suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this I have
>>>> found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas what too
>>>> look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Snow...
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
03-20-2006, 01:39 PM
#35
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Posts: n/a
Re: tire wear
Once your tires begin to wear 'funny' they will never wear correctly.
Rotate them to the rear and accept that you will have to get them rebalanced
repeatedly throughout their remaining life.
"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:2dATf.70536$%84.52036@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
> Yes, when one wheel or the other is out of toe, you actually get some wear
> on both tires because the toe is divided between the two in order for the
> vehicle to go straight down the road. Once a tire wear pattern from it is
> set though, you don't get that rubber back, so the tires will continue to
> wear funny, and may get noisy, or start to pull, if the wear is bad
> enough.
> If the back tires are in better shape, I'd have all four balanced and then
> rotated. Tire wear changes the balance of the tire, an out of balance tire
> increases wear on the tire, and wear on related suspension components, and
> eventually, you "back side" once the out of balance condition starts to
> vibrate.
> Good luck man,
>
> Spdloader
>
>
> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:bwzTf.2268$qX6.48454@news20.bellglobal.com...
>> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
>> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
>> bad then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe
>> out on the pax side...
>>
>> Snow...
>>
>>
>> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>>> Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering, across
>>> the tread.
>>>
>>> Spdloader
>>>
>>>
>>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
>>>> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner edges
>>>> (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare, This
>>>> suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this I have
>>>> found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas what too
>>>> look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Snow...
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Rotate them to the rear and accept that you will have to get them rebalanced
repeatedly throughout their remaining life.
"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:2dATf.70536$%84.52036@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
> Yes, when one wheel or the other is out of toe, you actually get some wear
> on both tires because the toe is divided between the two in order for the
> vehicle to go straight down the road. Once a tire wear pattern from it is
> set though, you don't get that rubber back, so the tires will continue to
> wear funny, and may get noisy, or start to pull, if the wear is bad
> enough.
> If the back tires are in better shape, I'd have all four balanced and then
> rotated. Tire wear changes the balance of the tire, an out of balance tire
> increases wear on the tire, and wear on related suspension components, and
> eventually, you "back side" once the out of balance condition starts to
> vibrate.
> Good luck man,
>
> Spdloader
>
>
> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:bwzTf.2268$qX6.48454@news20.bellglobal.com...
>> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
>> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
>> bad then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe
>> out on the pax side...
>>
>> Snow...
>>
>>
>> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>>> Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering, across
>>> the tread.
>>>
>>> Spdloader
>>>
>>>
>>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
>>>> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner edges
>>>> (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare, This
>>>> suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this I have
>>>> found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas what too
>>>> look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Snow...
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
03-20-2006, 01:39 PM
#36
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: tire wear
Once your tires begin to wear 'funny' they will never wear correctly.
Rotate them to the rear and accept that you will have to get them rebalanced
repeatedly throughout their remaining life.
"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:2dATf.70536$%84.52036@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
> Yes, when one wheel or the other is out of toe, you actually get some wear
> on both tires because the toe is divided between the two in order for the
> vehicle to go straight down the road. Once a tire wear pattern from it is
> set though, you don't get that rubber back, so the tires will continue to
> wear funny, and may get noisy, or start to pull, if the wear is bad
> enough.
> If the back tires are in better shape, I'd have all four balanced and then
> rotated. Tire wear changes the balance of the tire, an out of balance tire
> increases wear on the tire, and wear on related suspension components, and
> eventually, you "back side" once the out of balance condition starts to
> vibrate.
> Good luck man,
>
> Spdloader
>
>
> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:bwzTf.2268$qX6.48454@news20.bellglobal.com...
>> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
>> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
>> bad then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe
>> out on the pax side...
>>
>> Snow...
>>
>>
>> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>>> Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering, across
>>> the tread.
>>>
>>> Spdloader
>>>
>>>
>>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
>>>> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner edges
>>>> (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare, This
>>>> suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this I have
>>>> found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas what too
>>>> look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Snow...
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Rotate them to the rear and accept that you will have to get them rebalanced
repeatedly throughout their remaining life.
"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:2dATf.70536$%84.52036@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
> Yes, when one wheel or the other is out of toe, you actually get some wear
> on both tires because the toe is divided between the two in order for the
> vehicle to go straight down the road. Once a tire wear pattern from it is
> set though, you don't get that rubber back, so the tires will continue to
> wear funny, and may get noisy, or start to pull, if the wear is bad
> enough.
> If the back tires are in better shape, I'd have all four balanced and then
> rotated. Tire wear changes the balance of the tire, an out of balance tire
> increases wear on the tire, and wear on related suspension components, and
> eventually, you "back side" once the out of balance condition starts to
> vibrate.
> Good luck man,
>
> Spdloader
>
>
> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:bwzTf.2268$qX6.48454@news20.bellglobal.com...
>> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
>> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
>> bad then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe
>> out on the pax side...
>>
>> Snow...
>>
>>
>> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>>> Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering, across
>>> the tread.
>>>
>>> Spdloader
>>>
>>>
>>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
>>>> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner edges
>>>> (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare, This
>>>> suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this I have
>>>> found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas what too
>>>> look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Snow...
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
03-20-2006, 01:39 PM
#37
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: tire wear
Once your tires begin to wear 'funny' they will never wear correctly.
Rotate them to the rear and accept that you will have to get them rebalanced
repeatedly throughout their remaining life.
"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:2dATf.70536$%84.52036@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
> Yes, when one wheel or the other is out of toe, you actually get some wear
> on both tires because the toe is divided between the two in order for the
> vehicle to go straight down the road. Once a tire wear pattern from it is
> set though, you don't get that rubber back, so the tires will continue to
> wear funny, and may get noisy, or start to pull, if the wear is bad
> enough.
> If the back tires are in better shape, I'd have all four balanced and then
> rotated. Tire wear changes the balance of the tire, an out of balance tire
> increases wear on the tire, and wear on related suspension components, and
> eventually, you "back side" once the out of balance condition starts to
> vibrate.
> Good luck man,
>
> Spdloader
>
>
> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:bwzTf.2268$qX6.48454@news20.bellglobal.com...
>> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
>> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
>> bad then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe
>> out on the pax side...
>>
>> Snow...
>>
>>
>> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>>> Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering, across
>>> the tread.
>>>
>>> Spdloader
>>>
>>>
>>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
>>>> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner edges
>>>> (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare, This
>>>> suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this I have
>>>> found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas what too
>>>> look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Snow...
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Rotate them to the rear and accept that you will have to get them rebalanced
repeatedly throughout their remaining life.
"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:2dATf.70536$%84.52036@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
> Yes, when one wheel or the other is out of toe, you actually get some wear
> on both tires because the toe is divided between the two in order for the
> vehicle to go straight down the road. Once a tire wear pattern from it is
> set though, you don't get that rubber back, so the tires will continue to
> wear funny, and may get noisy, or start to pull, if the wear is bad
> enough.
> If the back tires are in better shape, I'd have all four balanced and then
> rotated. Tire wear changes the balance of the tire, an out of balance tire
> increases wear on the tire, and wear on related suspension components, and
> eventually, you "back side" once the out of balance condition starts to
> vibrate.
> Good luck man,
>
> Spdloader
>
>
> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:bwzTf.2268$qX6.48454@news20.bellglobal.com...
>> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
>> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
>> bad then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe
>> out on the pax side...
>>
>> Snow...
>>
>>
>> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>>> Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering, across
>>> the tread.
>>>
>>> Spdloader
>>>
>>>
>>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
>>>> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner edges
>>>> (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare, This
>>>> suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this I have
>>>> found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas what too
>>>> look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Snow...
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
03-20-2006, 02:23 PM
#38
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: tire wear
....that's what I said.
later,
Spdloader
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:d1b1e$441ef7de$4831b233$30065@FUSE.NET...
> Once your tires begin to wear 'funny' they will never wear correctly.
>
> Rotate them to the rear and accept that you will have to get them
> rebalanced repeatedly throughout their remaining life.
>
>
> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:2dATf.70536$%84.52036@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>> Yes, when one wheel or the other is out of toe, you actually get some
>> wear on both tires because the toe is divided between the two in order
>> for the vehicle to go straight down the road. Once a tire wear pattern
>> from it is set though, you don't get that rubber back, so the tires will
>> continue to wear funny, and may get noisy, or start to pull, if the wear
>> is bad enough.
>> If the back tires are in better shape, I'd have all four balanced and
>> then rotated. Tire wear changes the balance of the tire, an out of
>> balance tire increases wear on the tire, and wear on related suspension
>> components, and eventually, you "back side" once the out of balance
>> condition starts to vibrate.
>> Good luck man,
>>
>> Spdloader
>>
>>
>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:bwzTf.2268$qX6.48454@news20.bellglobal.com...
>>> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
>>> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
>>> bad then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe
>>> out on the pax side...
>>>
>>> Snow...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>>>> Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering, across
>>>> the tread.
>>>>
>>>> Spdloader
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
>>>>> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner
>>>>> edges (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare,
>>>>> This suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this
>>>>> I have found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas
>>>>> what too look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Snow...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
later,
Spdloader
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:d1b1e$441ef7de$4831b233$30065@FUSE.NET...
> Once your tires begin to wear 'funny' they will never wear correctly.
>
> Rotate them to the rear and accept that you will have to get them
> rebalanced repeatedly throughout their remaining life.
>
>
> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:2dATf.70536$%84.52036@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>> Yes, when one wheel or the other is out of toe, you actually get some
>> wear on both tires because the toe is divided between the two in order
>> for the vehicle to go straight down the road. Once a tire wear pattern
>> from it is set though, you don't get that rubber back, so the tires will
>> continue to wear funny, and may get noisy, or start to pull, if the wear
>> is bad enough.
>> If the back tires are in better shape, I'd have all four balanced and
>> then rotated. Tire wear changes the balance of the tire, an out of
>> balance tire increases wear on the tire, and wear on related suspension
>> components, and eventually, you "back side" once the out of balance
>> condition starts to vibrate.
>> Good luck man,
>>
>> Spdloader
>>
>>
>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:bwzTf.2268$qX6.48454@news20.bellglobal.com...
>>> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
>>> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
>>> bad then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe
>>> out on the pax side...
>>>
>>> Snow...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>>>> Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering, across
>>>> the tread.
>>>>
>>>> Spdloader
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
>>>>> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner
>>>>> edges (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare,
>>>>> This suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this
>>>>> I have found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas
>>>>> what too look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Snow...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
03-20-2006, 02:23 PM
#39
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: tire wear
....that's what I said.
later,
Spdloader
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:d1b1e$441ef7de$4831b233$30065@FUSE.NET...
> Once your tires begin to wear 'funny' they will never wear correctly.
>
> Rotate them to the rear and accept that you will have to get them
> rebalanced repeatedly throughout their remaining life.
>
>
> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:2dATf.70536$%84.52036@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>> Yes, when one wheel or the other is out of toe, you actually get some
>> wear on both tires because the toe is divided between the two in order
>> for the vehicle to go straight down the road. Once a tire wear pattern
>> from it is set though, you don't get that rubber back, so the tires will
>> continue to wear funny, and may get noisy, or start to pull, if the wear
>> is bad enough.
>> If the back tires are in better shape, I'd have all four balanced and
>> then rotated. Tire wear changes the balance of the tire, an out of
>> balance tire increases wear on the tire, and wear on related suspension
>> components, and eventually, you "back side" once the out of balance
>> condition starts to vibrate.
>> Good luck man,
>>
>> Spdloader
>>
>>
>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:bwzTf.2268$qX6.48454@news20.bellglobal.com...
>>> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
>>> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
>>> bad then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe
>>> out on the pax side...
>>>
>>> Snow...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>>>> Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering, across
>>>> the tread.
>>>>
>>>> Spdloader
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
>>>>> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner
>>>>> edges (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare,
>>>>> This suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this
>>>>> I have found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas
>>>>> what too look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Snow...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
later,
Spdloader
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:d1b1e$441ef7de$4831b233$30065@FUSE.NET...
> Once your tires begin to wear 'funny' they will never wear correctly.
>
> Rotate them to the rear and accept that you will have to get them
> rebalanced repeatedly throughout their remaining life.
>
>
> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:2dATf.70536$%84.52036@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>> Yes, when one wheel or the other is out of toe, you actually get some
>> wear on both tires because the toe is divided between the two in order
>> for the vehicle to go straight down the road. Once a tire wear pattern
>> from it is set though, you don't get that rubber back, so the tires will
>> continue to wear funny, and may get noisy, or start to pull, if the wear
>> is bad enough.
>> If the back tires are in better shape, I'd have all four balanced and
>> then rotated. Tire wear changes the balance of the tire, an out of
>> balance tire increases wear on the tire, and wear on related suspension
>> components, and eventually, you "back side" once the out of balance
>> condition starts to vibrate.
>> Good luck man,
>>
>> Spdloader
>>
>>
>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:bwzTf.2268$qX6.48454@news20.bellglobal.com...
>>> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
>>> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
>>> bad then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe
>>> out on the pax side...
>>>
>>> Snow...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>>>> Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering, across
>>>> the tread.
>>>>
>>>> Spdloader
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
>>>>> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner
>>>>> edges (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare,
>>>>> This suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this
>>>>> I have found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas
>>>>> what too look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Snow...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
03-20-2006, 02:23 PM
#40
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: tire wear
....that's what I said.
later,
Spdloader
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:d1b1e$441ef7de$4831b233$30065@FUSE.NET...
> Once your tires begin to wear 'funny' they will never wear correctly.
>
> Rotate them to the rear and accept that you will have to get them
> rebalanced repeatedly throughout their remaining life.
>
>
> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:2dATf.70536$%84.52036@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>> Yes, when one wheel or the other is out of toe, you actually get some
>> wear on both tires because the toe is divided between the two in order
>> for the vehicle to go straight down the road. Once a tire wear pattern
>> from it is set though, you don't get that rubber back, so the tires will
>> continue to wear funny, and may get noisy, or start to pull, if the wear
>> is bad enough.
>> If the back tires are in better shape, I'd have all four balanced and
>> then rotated. Tire wear changes the balance of the tire, an out of
>> balance tire increases wear on the tire, and wear on related suspension
>> components, and eventually, you "back side" once the out of balance
>> condition starts to vibrate.
>> Good luck man,
>>
>> Spdloader
>>
>>
>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:bwzTf.2268$qX6.48454@news20.bellglobal.com...
>>> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
>>> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
>>> bad then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe
>>> out on the pax side...
>>>
>>> Snow...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>>>> Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering, across
>>>> the tread.
>>>>
>>>> Spdloader
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
>>>>> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner
>>>>> edges (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare,
>>>>> This suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this
>>>>> I have found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas
>>>>> what too look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Snow...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
later,
Spdloader
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:d1b1e$441ef7de$4831b233$30065@FUSE.NET...
> Once your tires begin to wear 'funny' they will never wear correctly.
>
> Rotate them to the rear and accept that you will have to get them
> rebalanced repeatedly throughout their remaining life.
>
>
> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:2dATf.70536$%84.52036@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>> Yes, when one wheel or the other is out of toe, you actually get some
>> wear on both tires because the toe is divided between the two in order
>> for the vehicle to go straight down the road. Once a tire wear pattern
>> from it is set though, you don't get that rubber back, so the tires will
>> continue to wear funny, and may get noisy, or start to pull, if the wear
>> is bad enough.
>> If the back tires are in better shape, I'd have all four balanced and
>> then rotated. Tire wear changes the balance of the tire, an out of
>> balance tire increases wear on the tire, and wear on related suspension
>> components, and eventually, you "back side" once the out of balance
>> condition starts to vibrate.
>> Good luck man,
>>
>> Spdloader
>>
>>
>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:bwzTf.2268$qX6.48454@news20.bellglobal.com...
>>> Ok so having the pax wheel (viewed from front) pointing out while the
>>> drivers wheel is straight will also cause this... well that's not too
>>> bad then... this is the reason I'm taking it in for an alignment.. toe
>>> out on the pax side...
>>>
>>> Snow...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:FszTf.70529$%84.15220@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>>>> Excessive toe out will cause that same wear too, and feathering, across
>>>> the tread.
>>>>
>>>> Spdloader
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:C8zTf.2261$qX6.47291@news20.bellglobal.com...
>>>>> Have a strange tire wear problem on the wifey's 93 ZJ, the inner
>>>>> edges (almost inner 1/3rd) or the front tires are worn almost bare,
>>>>> This suggests a problem with the camber angle, in reading about this
>>>>> I have found that the camber on the ZJ is non-adjustable, any ideas
>>>>> what too look for prior to taking it into the alignment shop?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Snow...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>