Though Jeep, Libty is 100% girl car
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North of Cincinnati, Ohio..... about 2300 miles east south east
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> You on the left coast, right coast, or in the middle?
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> On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:08:03 -0400, "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net>
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>>>Where can I find a Jeep Girl?
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> You on the left coast, right coast, or in the middle?
>
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> On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:08:03 -0400, "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net>
> wrote:
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>>>Where can I find a Jeep Girl?
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North of Cincinnati, Ohio..... about 2300 miles east south east
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"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
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> You on the left coast, right coast, or in the middle?
>
>
> On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:08:03 -0400, "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net>
> wrote:
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>>>Where can I find a Jeep Girl?
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"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
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> You on the left coast, right coast, or in the middle?
>
>
> On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:08:03 -0400, "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net>
> wrote:
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>>>Where can I find a Jeep Girl?
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When the hurricanes and earthquakes get done it will be near the middle
coast.
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"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
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> You on the left coast, right coast, or in the middle?
>
>
> On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:08:03 -0400, "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net>
> wrote:
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>>>Where can I find a Jeep Girl?
coast.
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"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
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> You on the left coast, right coast, or in the middle?
>
>
> On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:08:03 -0400, "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net>
> wrote:
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>>>Where can I find a Jeep Girl?
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Re: Though Jeep, Libty is 100% girl car
When the hurricanes and earthquakes get done it will be near the middle
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"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
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> You on the left coast, right coast, or in the middle?
>
>
> On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:08:03 -0400, "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net>
> wrote:
>
>>>Where can I find a Jeep Girl?
coast.
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"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
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> You on the left coast, right coast, or in the middle?
>
>
> On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:08:03 -0400, "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net>
> wrote:
>
>>>Where can I find a Jeep Girl?
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Re: Though Jeep, Libty is 100% girl car
When the hurricanes and earthquakes get done it will be near the middle
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"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
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> You on the left coast, right coast, or in the middle?
>
>
> On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:08:03 -0400, "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net>
> wrote:
>
>>>Where can I find a Jeep Girl?
coast.
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"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
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> You on the left coast, right coast, or in the middle?
>
>
> On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:08:03 -0400, "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net>
> wrote:
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>>>Where can I find a Jeep Girl?
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L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> What makes you act like an idiot? it was Mercedes that started this
> flood of dirty cars, that eat into the truckers profits. If it wasn't
> for them no one would have bought that VW Golf in '79 that lasted about
> another year, but further opened the door. Like all bleeding heart
> liberals, I doubt you'll understand.
>
-------- -------- -------- -------- --------.
Mercedes Benz sold diesels, but not very many. Peugeot did too then
you had VW and Oldsmobile. But none of them burned diesel fuel like the
PowerStrokes and Duramaxes and Dodge Ram Cumminses. They are the
consumers of diesel fuel, not the piddling few Benzes.
Studebaker and Checker Cab offered diesels too back then. You could
get a factory Perkins, I think, in a Lark. Checker Cab had a British
Ford engine optional I think. They sold very few, but neither did Benz.
Maybe we should jack truckers' costs to force freight back on the
railroads where it belongs anyway.
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Re: Though Jeep, Libty is 100% girl car
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> What makes you act like an idiot? it was Mercedes that started this
> flood of dirty cars, that eat into the truckers profits. If it wasn't
> for them no one would have bought that VW Golf in '79 that lasted about
> another year, but further opened the door. Like all bleeding heart
> liberals, I doubt you'll understand.
>
-------- -------- -------- -------- --------.
Mercedes Benz sold diesels, but not very many. Peugeot did too then
you had VW and Oldsmobile. But none of them burned diesel fuel like the
PowerStrokes and Duramaxes and Dodge Ram Cumminses. They are the
consumers of diesel fuel, not the piddling few Benzes.
Studebaker and Checker Cab offered diesels too back then. You could
get a factory Perkins, I think, in a Lark. Checker Cab had a British
Ford engine optional I think. They sold very few, but neither did Benz.
Maybe we should jack truckers' costs to force freight back on the
railroads where it belongs anyway.
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Re: Though Jeep, Libty is 100% girl car
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> What makes you act like an idiot? it was Mercedes that started this
> flood of dirty cars, that eat into the truckers profits. If it wasn't
> for them no one would have bought that VW Golf in '79 that lasted about
> another year, but further opened the door. Like all bleeding heart
> liberals, I doubt you'll understand.
>
-------- -------- -------- -------- --------.
Mercedes Benz sold diesels, but not very many. Peugeot did too then
you had VW and Oldsmobile. But none of them burned diesel fuel like the
PowerStrokes and Duramaxes and Dodge Ram Cumminses. They are the
consumers of diesel fuel, not the piddling few Benzes.
Studebaker and Checker Cab offered diesels too back then. You could
get a factory Perkins, I think, in a Lark. Checker Cab had a British
Ford engine optional I think. They sold very few, but neither did Benz.
Maybe we should jack truckers' costs to force freight back on the
railroads where it belongs anyway.
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Re: Though Jeep, Libty is 100% girl car
Hi Bill,
I know of many times as the gas station started switching over, the
tankers would accidentally dump a nine hundred gallon compartment into
the diesel storage, destroying ever diesel car that fueled there.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Oldsmobile Diesel V6 engine
> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
> Jump to: navigation, search
> Oldsmobile developed three Diesel engines for the 1980s - two V8s and this
> 263 in³ (4.3 L) V6. It was based on the Olds 350 V8 with a 4.057 in bore and
> 3.385 in stroke.
>
> The history of Diesel engines at General Motors has not been positive. In
> the 1970s, the company was unable to power its large cars and trucks with
> their emissions-strangled engines. Like many other companies, GM turned to
> Diesel power, directing the Oldsmobile division to develop two V6 and one V8
> to be shared with all divisions.
>
> Oldsmobile's engines, the 5.7 L LF9 and 4.3 L LF7 V8s and this 4.3 L V6,
> were notoriously unreliable. Although over one million were sold between
> 1978 and 1985, the failure rate of GM's engines ruined the reputation of
> Diesel engines in general in the United States market. Eventually, a class
> action lawsuit resulted in an arbitration system under the supervision of
> the Federal Trade Commission where consumers could claim 80% of the original
> cost of the engine in the event of a failure.
>
> The primary problem with GM's Diesel engines of the 1970s was their design —
> they were based on Oldsmobile's 350 V8. This gasoline block was unable to
> withstand the higher cylinder pressures and temperatures of Diesel use. This
> led to catastrophic failure of pistons, cylinder heads, and even cylinder
> walls. Reinforced Diesel engines, from GM and other companies, did not have
> these problems. Today, GM uses Diesel engines from DMAX (for trucks) and
> Isuzu (for non-US cars) but offers no domestic Diesel passenger cars.
I know of many times as the gas station started switching over, the
tankers would accidentally dump a nine hundred gallon compartment into
the diesel storage, destroying ever diesel car that fueled there.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Oldsmobile Diesel V6 engine
> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
> Jump to: navigation, search
> Oldsmobile developed three Diesel engines for the 1980s - two V8s and this
> 263 in³ (4.3 L) V6. It was based on the Olds 350 V8 with a 4.057 in bore and
> 3.385 in stroke.
>
> The history of Diesel engines at General Motors has not been positive. In
> the 1970s, the company was unable to power its large cars and trucks with
> their emissions-strangled engines. Like many other companies, GM turned to
> Diesel power, directing the Oldsmobile division to develop two V6 and one V8
> to be shared with all divisions.
>
> Oldsmobile's engines, the 5.7 L LF9 and 4.3 L LF7 V8s and this 4.3 L V6,
> were notoriously unreliable. Although over one million were sold between
> 1978 and 1985, the failure rate of GM's engines ruined the reputation of
> Diesel engines in general in the United States market. Eventually, a class
> action lawsuit resulted in an arbitration system under the supervision of
> the Federal Trade Commission where consumers could claim 80% of the original
> cost of the engine in the event of a failure.
>
> The primary problem with GM's Diesel engines of the 1970s was their design —
> they were based on Oldsmobile's 350 V8. This gasoline block was unable to
> withstand the higher cylinder pressures and temperatures of Diesel use. This
> led to catastrophic failure of pistons, cylinder heads, and even cylinder
> walls. Reinforced Diesel engines, from GM and other companies, did not have
> these problems. Today, GM uses Diesel engines from DMAX (for trucks) and
> Isuzu (for non-US cars) but offers no domestic Diesel passenger cars.
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Re: Though Jeep, Libty is 100% girl car
Hi Bill,
I know of many times as the gas station started switching over, the
tankers would accidentally dump a nine hundred gallon compartment into
the diesel storage, destroying ever diesel car that fueled there.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Oldsmobile Diesel V6 engine
> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
> Jump to: navigation, search
> Oldsmobile developed three Diesel engines for the 1980s - two V8s and this
> 263 in³ (4.3 L) V6. It was based on the Olds 350 V8 with a 4.057 in bore and
> 3.385 in stroke.
>
> The history of Diesel engines at General Motors has not been positive. In
> the 1970s, the company was unable to power its large cars and trucks with
> their emissions-strangled engines. Like many other companies, GM turned to
> Diesel power, directing the Oldsmobile division to develop two V6 and one V8
> to be shared with all divisions.
>
> Oldsmobile's engines, the 5.7 L LF9 and 4.3 L LF7 V8s and this 4.3 L V6,
> were notoriously unreliable. Although over one million were sold between
> 1978 and 1985, the failure rate of GM's engines ruined the reputation of
> Diesel engines in general in the United States market. Eventually, a class
> action lawsuit resulted in an arbitration system under the supervision of
> the Federal Trade Commission where consumers could claim 80% of the original
> cost of the engine in the event of a failure.
>
> The primary problem with GM's Diesel engines of the 1970s was their design —
> they were based on Oldsmobile's 350 V8. This gasoline block was unable to
> withstand the higher cylinder pressures and temperatures of Diesel use. This
> led to catastrophic failure of pistons, cylinder heads, and even cylinder
> walls. Reinforced Diesel engines, from GM and other companies, did not have
> these problems. Today, GM uses Diesel engines from DMAX (for trucks) and
> Isuzu (for non-US cars) but offers no domestic Diesel passenger cars.
I know of many times as the gas station started switching over, the
tankers would accidentally dump a nine hundred gallon compartment into
the diesel storage, destroying ever diesel car that fueled there.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Oldsmobile Diesel V6 engine
> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
> Jump to: navigation, search
> Oldsmobile developed three Diesel engines for the 1980s - two V8s and this
> 263 in³ (4.3 L) V6. It was based on the Olds 350 V8 with a 4.057 in bore and
> 3.385 in stroke.
>
> The history of Diesel engines at General Motors has not been positive. In
> the 1970s, the company was unable to power its large cars and trucks with
> their emissions-strangled engines. Like many other companies, GM turned to
> Diesel power, directing the Oldsmobile division to develop two V6 and one V8
> to be shared with all divisions.
>
> Oldsmobile's engines, the 5.7 L LF9 and 4.3 L LF7 V8s and this 4.3 L V6,
> were notoriously unreliable. Although over one million were sold between
> 1978 and 1985, the failure rate of GM's engines ruined the reputation of
> Diesel engines in general in the United States market. Eventually, a class
> action lawsuit resulted in an arbitration system under the supervision of
> the Federal Trade Commission where consumers could claim 80% of the original
> cost of the engine in the event of a failure.
>
> The primary problem with GM's Diesel engines of the 1970s was their design —
> they were based on Oldsmobile's 350 V8. This gasoline block was unable to
> withstand the higher cylinder pressures and temperatures of Diesel use. This
> led to catastrophic failure of pistons, cylinder heads, and even cylinder
> walls. Reinforced Diesel engines, from GM and other companies, did not have
> these problems. Today, GM uses Diesel engines from DMAX (for trucks) and
> Isuzu (for non-US cars) but offers no domestic Diesel passenger cars.