Suspension frustration!
11-06-2003, 02:46 PM
#51
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Re: Suspension frustration!
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> It isn't all that hard from a technical stand point, but it can be a real
> knuckle-buster.
>
> You can test the ball joints by lifting the tire(s) off the ground and
> grabbing them at the 6:00 and 12:00 position and pushing the top and
pulling
> the bottom, and vice versa. If the tire is loose, the joints are toast.
One
> of the joints (top or bottom) is the weight bearing joint, and this is the
> one that generally needs to be replaced.
>
On other vehicles I have always checked lower balljoint condition by jacking
the corner under the suspension component (lower arm) so that the weight is
normally suspended but the wheel is unweighted, then stick a lever (2x4 will
work) under the wheel and pry it up and down looking for slop. I think your
6 and 12 test will better check the upper balljoint which is tyupically not
the one that wears out first.
-Fred W
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11-06-2003, 02:46 PM
#52
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Re: Suspension frustration!
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> It isn't all that hard from a technical stand point, but it can be a real
> knuckle-buster.
>
> You can test the ball joints by lifting the tire(s) off the ground and
> grabbing them at the 6:00 and 12:00 position and pushing the top and
pulling
> the bottom, and vice versa. If the tire is loose, the joints are toast.
One
> of the joints (top or bottom) is the weight bearing joint, and this is the
> one that generally needs to be replaced.
>
On other vehicles I have always checked lower balljoint condition by jacking
the corner under the suspension component (lower arm) so that the weight is
normally suspended but the wheel is unweighted, then stick a lever (2x4 will
work) under the wheel and pry it up and down looking for slop. I think your
6 and 12 test will better check the upper balljoint which is tyupically not
the one that wears out first.
-Fred W
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11-06-2003, 03:00 PM
#53
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Re: Suspension frustration!
Hi Fred,
You'll see it in the camber, too the wide wheels will make the tire
tilt in at the top, under normal weight. And the tire will be worn on
the inside like a toe-out problem, except the other good ball joint side
won't show the that wear.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Fred W." wrote:
>
> On other vehicles I have always checked lower balljoint condition by jacking
> the corner under the suspension component (lower arm) so that the weight is
> normally suspended but the wheel is unweighted, then stick a lever (2x4 will
> work) under the wheel and pry it up and down looking for slop. I think your
> 6 and 12 test will better check the upper balljoint which is tyupically not
> the one that wears out first.
>
> -Fred W
You'll see it in the camber, too the wide wheels will make the tire
tilt in at the top, under normal weight. And the tire will be worn on
the inside like a toe-out problem, except the other good ball joint side
won't show the that wear.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Fred W." wrote:
>
> On other vehicles I have always checked lower balljoint condition by jacking
> the corner under the suspension component (lower arm) so that the weight is
> normally suspended but the wheel is unweighted, then stick a lever (2x4 will
> work) under the wheel and pry it up and down looking for slop. I think your
> 6 and 12 test will better check the upper balljoint which is tyupically not
> the one that wears out first.
>
> -Fred W
11-06-2003, 03:00 PM
#54
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Re: Suspension frustration!
Hi Fred,
You'll see it in the camber, too the wide wheels will make the tire
tilt in at the top, under normal weight. And the tire will be worn on
the inside like a toe-out problem, except the other good ball joint side
won't show the that wear.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Fred W." wrote:
>
> On other vehicles I have always checked lower balljoint condition by jacking
> the corner under the suspension component (lower arm) so that the weight is
> normally suspended but the wheel is unweighted, then stick a lever (2x4 will
> work) under the wheel and pry it up and down looking for slop. I think your
> 6 and 12 test will better check the upper balljoint which is tyupically not
> the one that wears out first.
>
> -Fred W
You'll see it in the camber, too the wide wheels will make the tire
tilt in at the top, under normal weight. And the tire will be worn on
the inside like a toe-out problem, except the other good ball joint side
won't show the that wear.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Fred W." wrote:
>
> On other vehicles I have always checked lower balljoint condition by jacking
> the corner under the suspension component (lower arm) so that the weight is
> normally suspended but the wheel is unweighted, then stick a lever (2x4 will
> work) under the wheel and pry it up and down looking for slop. I think your
> 6 and 12 test will better check the upper balljoint which is tyupically not
> the one that wears out first.
>
> -Fred W
11-06-2003, 03:00 PM
#55
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Re: Suspension frustration!
Hi Fred,
You'll see it in the camber, too the wide wheels will make the tire
tilt in at the top, under normal weight. And the tire will be worn on
the inside like a toe-out problem, except the other good ball joint side
won't show the that wear.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Fred W." wrote:
>
> On other vehicles I have always checked lower balljoint condition by jacking
> the corner under the suspension component (lower arm) so that the weight is
> normally suspended but the wheel is unweighted, then stick a lever (2x4 will
> work) under the wheel and pry it up and down looking for slop. I think your
> 6 and 12 test will better check the upper balljoint which is tyupically not
> the one that wears out first.
>
> -Fred W
You'll see it in the camber, too the wide wheels will make the tire
tilt in at the top, under normal weight. And the tire will be worn on
the inside like a toe-out problem, except the other good ball joint side
won't show the that wear.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Fred W." wrote:
>
> On other vehicles I have always checked lower balljoint condition by jacking
> the corner under the suspension component (lower arm) so that the weight is
> normally suspended but the wheel is unweighted, then stick a lever (2x4 will
> work) under the wheel and pry it up and down looking for slop. I think your
> 6 and 12 test will better check the upper balljoint which is tyupically not
> the one that wears out first.
>
> -Fred W
11-06-2003, 06:12 PM
#56
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Re: Suspension frustration!
Damn it! I have worn lower ball joints now. They were fine a few minutes
ago, before I read your post. Thanks a lot, Bill ...
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Hi Fred,
> You'll see it in the camber, too the wide wheels will make the tire
> tilt in at the top, under normal weight. And the tire will be worn on
> the inside like a toe-out problem, except the other good ball joint side
> won't show the that wear.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Fred W." wrote:
> >
> > On other vehicles I have always checked lower balljoint condition by
jacking
> > the corner under the suspension component (lower arm) so that the weight
is
> > normally suspended but the wheel is unweighted, then stick a lever (2x4
will
> > work) under the wheel and pry it up and down looking for slop. I think
your
> > 6 and 12 test will better check the upper balljoint which is tyupically
not
> > the one that wears out first.
> >
> > -Fred W
ago, before I read your post. Thanks a lot, Bill ...
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FAAA875.110B5DDA@***.net...
> Hi Fred,
> You'll see it in the camber, too the wide wheels will make the tire
> tilt in at the top, under normal weight. And the tire will be worn on
> the inside like a toe-out problem, except the other good ball joint side
> won't show the that wear.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Fred W." wrote:
> >
> > On other vehicles I have always checked lower balljoint condition by
jacking
> > the corner under the suspension component (lower arm) so that the weight
is
> > normally suspended but the wheel is unweighted, then stick a lever (2x4
will
> > work) under the wheel and pry it up and down looking for slop. I think
your
> > 6 and 12 test will better check the upper balljoint which is tyupically
not
> > the one that wears out first.
> >
> > -Fred W
11-06-2003, 06:12 PM
#57
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Re: Suspension frustration!
Damn it! I have worn lower ball joints now. They were fine a few minutes
ago, before I read your post. Thanks a lot, Bill ...
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FAAA875.110B5DDA@***.net...
> Hi Fred,
> You'll see it in the camber, too the wide wheels will make the tire
> tilt in at the top, under normal weight. And the tire will be worn on
> the inside like a toe-out problem, except the other good ball joint side
> won't show the that wear.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Fred W." wrote:
> >
> > On other vehicles I have always checked lower balljoint condition by
jacking
> > the corner under the suspension component (lower arm) so that the weight
is
> > normally suspended but the wheel is unweighted, then stick a lever (2x4
will
> > work) under the wheel and pry it up and down looking for slop. I think
your
> > 6 and 12 test will better check the upper balljoint which is tyupically
not
> > the one that wears out first.
> >
> > -Fred W
ago, before I read your post. Thanks a lot, Bill ...
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FAAA875.110B5DDA@***.net...
> Hi Fred,
> You'll see it in the camber, too the wide wheels will make the tire
> tilt in at the top, under normal weight. And the tire will be worn on
> the inside like a toe-out problem, except the other good ball joint side
> won't show the that wear.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Fred W." wrote:
> >
> > On other vehicles I have always checked lower balljoint condition by
jacking
> > the corner under the suspension component (lower arm) so that the weight
is
> > normally suspended but the wheel is unweighted, then stick a lever (2x4
will
> > work) under the wheel and pry it up and down looking for slop. I think
your
> > 6 and 12 test will better check the upper balljoint which is tyupically
not
> > the one that wears out first.
> >
> > -Fred W
11-06-2003, 06:12 PM
#58
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Re: Suspension frustration!
Damn it! I have worn lower ball joints now. They were fine a few minutes
ago, before I read your post. Thanks a lot, Bill ...
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FAAA875.110B5DDA@***.net...
> Hi Fred,
> You'll see it in the camber, too the wide wheels will make the tire
> tilt in at the top, under normal weight. And the tire will be worn on
> the inside like a toe-out problem, except the other good ball joint side
> won't show the that wear.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Fred W." wrote:
> >
> > On other vehicles I have always checked lower balljoint condition by
jacking
> > the corner under the suspension component (lower arm) so that the weight
is
> > normally suspended but the wheel is unweighted, then stick a lever (2x4
will
> > work) under the wheel and pry it up and down looking for slop. I think
your
> > 6 and 12 test will better check the upper balljoint which is tyupically
not
> > the one that wears out first.
> >
> > -Fred W
ago, before I read your post. Thanks a lot, Bill ...
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FAAA875.110B5DDA@***.net...
> Hi Fred,
> You'll see it in the camber, too the wide wheels will make the tire
> tilt in at the top, under normal weight. And the tire will be worn on
> the inside like a toe-out problem, except the other good ball joint side
> won't show the that wear.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Fred W." wrote:
> >
> > On other vehicles I have always checked lower balljoint condition by
jacking
> > the corner under the suspension component (lower arm) so that the weight
is
> > normally suspended but the wheel is unweighted, then stick a lever (2x4
will
> > work) under the wheel and pry it up and down looking for slop. I think
your
> > 6 and 12 test will better check the upper balljoint which is tyupically
not
> > the one that wears out first.
> >
> > -Fred W
11-06-2003, 07:58 PM
#59
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Re: Suspension frustration!
One thing that is overlooked with Jeep ball joints is that they only work in
conjunction with the steering, i.e., left to right, and not with the
suspension as in an IFS configuration. That's why they last so long.
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vqllfit8vavm4b@corp.supernews.com...
> Damn it! I have worn lower ball joints now. They were fine a few minutes
> ago, before I read your post. Thanks a lot, Bill ...
>
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3FAAA875.110B5DDA@***.net...
> > Hi Fred,
> > You'll see it in the camber, too the wide wheels will make the tire
> > tilt in at the top, under normal weight. And the tire will be worn on
> > the inside like a toe-out problem, except the other good ball joint side
> > won't show the that wear.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "Fred W." wrote:
> > >
> > > On other vehicles I have always checked lower balljoint condition by
> jacking
> > > the corner under the suspension component (lower arm) so that the
weight
> is
> > > normally suspended but the wheel is unweighted, then stick a lever
(2x4
> will
> > > work) under the wheel and pry it up and down looking for slop. I
think
> your
> > > 6 and 12 test will better check the upper balljoint which is
tyupically
> not
> > > the one that wears out first.
> > >
> > > -Fred W
>
conjunction with the steering, i.e., left to right, and not with the
suspension as in an IFS configuration. That's why they last so long.
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vqllfit8vavm4b@corp.supernews.com...
> Damn it! I have worn lower ball joints now. They were fine a few minutes
> ago, before I read your post. Thanks a lot, Bill ...
>
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3FAAA875.110B5DDA@***.net...
> > Hi Fred,
> > You'll see it in the camber, too the wide wheels will make the tire
> > tilt in at the top, under normal weight. And the tire will be worn on
> > the inside like a toe-out problem, except the other good ball joint side
> > won't show the that wear.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "Fred W." wrote:
> > >
> > > On other vehicles I have always checked lower balljoint condition by
> jacking
> > > the corner under the suspension component (lower arm) so that the
weight
> is
> > > normally suspended but the wheel is unweighted, then stick a lever
(2x4
> will
> > > work) under the wheel and pry it up and down looking for slop. I
think
> your
> > > 6 and 12 test will better check the upper balljoint which is
tyupically
> not
> > > the one that wears out first.
> > >
> > > -Fred W
>
11-06-2003, 07:58 PM
#60
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Re: Suspension frustration!
One thing that is overlooked with Jeep ball joints is that they only work in
conjunction with the steering, i.e., left to right, and not with the
suspension as in an IFS configuration. That's why they last so long.
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vqllfit8vavm4b@corp.supernews.com...
> Damn it! I have worn lower ball joints now. They were fine a few minutes
> ago, before I read your post. Thanks a lot, Bill ...
>
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3FAAA875.110B5DDA@***.net...
> > Hi Fred,
> > You'll see it in the camber, too the wide wheels will make the tire
> > tilt in at the top, under normal weight. And the tire will be worn on
> > the inside like a toe-out problem, except the other good ball joint side
> > won't show the that wear.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "Fred W." wrote:
> > >
> > > On other vehicles I have always checked lower balljoint condition by
> jacking
> > > the corner under the suspension component (lower arm) so that the
weight
> is
> > > normally suspended but the wheel is unweighted, then stick a lever
(2x4
> will
> > > work) under the wheel and pry it up and down looking for slop. I
think
> your
> > > 6 and 12 test will better check the upper balljoint which is
tyupically
> not
> > > the one that wears out first.
> > >
> > > -Fred W
>
conjunction with the steering, i.e., left to right, and not with the
suspension as in an IFS configuration. That's why they last so long.
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vqllfit8vavm4b@corp.supernews.com...
> Damn it! I have worn lower ball joints now. They were fine a few minutes
> ago, before I read your post. Thanks a lot, Bill ...
>
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3FAAA875.110B5DDA@***.net...
> > Hi Fred,
> > You'll see it in the camber, too the wide wheels will make the tire
> > tilt in at the top, under normal weight. And the tire will be worn on
> > the inside like a toe-out problem, except the other good ball joint side
> > won't show the that wear.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "Fred W." wrote:
> > >
> > > On other vehicles I have always checked lower balljoint condition by
> jacking
> > > the corner under the suspension component (lower arm) so that the
weight
> is
> > > normally suspended but the wheel is unweighted, then stick a lever
(2x4
> will
> > > work) under the wheel and pry it up and down looking for slop. I
think
> your
> > > 6 and 12 test will better check the upper balljoint which is
tyupically
> not
> > > the one that wears out first.
> > >
> > > -Fred W
>
