Suspension frustration!
#11
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Re: Suspension frustration!
You have a u-joint in the steering column just in front of the firewall,
check that.
Motor/tranny mounts bad can set up a harmonic shake you feel in the
steering too.
So can a shot rad fan clutch. When mine went bad I thought I was going
to lose a tire or something it shook so bad.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
>
> Okay, I've posted before, but now I've had the front two tires rebalanced
> and the bearings tightened up.
>
> New rear drive shaft U joints
> No play in steering
> Ball joints are fine
> New steering stabilizer
> New 2.5 skyjacker suspension with shocks/bushings (has 2 inch body lift new)
> New shackles (stock) and bushings
> New 33x13.5 superswamper TSLs on New 10x15 wheels (front 2 just rebalanced)
> Tightened up front bearings.
>
> Motor/tranny mounts are shot.
> Swaybar bushings are shot
>
> Why the hell am I still getting this shimmy/shake between 40-50 mph??? The
> thing wanders like a mother too but I'm figuring it's the bias ply
> tires...not to mention the width. Any suggestions? Are my axles bent?
> Thanks!
> Allen
> 83 CJ7
check that.
Motor/tranny mounts bad can set up a harmonic shake you feel in the
steering too.
So can a shot rad fan clutch. When mine went bad I thought I was going
to lose a tire or something it shook so bad.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
>
> Okay, I've posted before, but now I've had the front two tires rebalanced
> and the bearings tightened up.
>
> New rear drive shaft U joints
> No play in steering
> Ball joints are fine
> New steering stabilizer
> New 2.5 skyjacker suspension with shocks/bushings (has 2 inch body lift new)
> New shackles (stock) and bushings
> New 33x13.5 superswamper TSLs on New 10x15 wheels (front 2 just rebalanced)
> Tightened up front bearings.
>
> Motor/tranny mounts are shot.
> Swaybar bushings are shot
>
> Why the hell am I still getting this shimmy/shake between 40-50 mph??? The
> thing wanders like a mother too but I'm figuring it's the bias ply
> tires...not to mention the width. Any suggestions? Are my axles bent?
> Thanks!
> Allen
> 83 CJ7
#12
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Re: Suspension frustration!
You have a u-joint in the steering column just in front of the firewall,
check that.
Motor/tranny mounts bad can set up a harmonic shake you feel in the
steering too.
So can a shot rad fan clutch. When mine went bad I thought I was going
to lose a tire or something it shook so bad.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
>
> Okay, I've posted before, but now I've had the front two tires rebalanced
> and the bearings tightened up.
>
> New rear drive shaft U joints
> No play in steering
> Ball joints are fine
> New steering stabilizer
> New 2.5 skyjacker suspension with shocks/bushings (has 2 inch body lift new)
> New shackles (stock) and bushings
> New 33x13.5 superswamper TSLs on New 10x15 wheels (front 2 just rebalanced)
> Tightened up front bearings.
>
> Motor/tranny mounts are shot.
> Swaybar bushings are shot
>
> Why the hell am I still getting this shimmy/shake between 40-50 mph??? The
> thing wanders like a mother too but I'm figuring it's the bias ply
> tires...not to mention the width. Any suggestions? Are my axles bent?
> Thanks!
> Allen
> 83 CJ7
check that.
Motor/tranny mounts bad can set up a harmonic shake you feel in the
steering too.
So can a shot rad fan clutch. When mine went bad I thought I was going
to lose a tire or something it shook so bad.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
>
> Okay, I've posted before, but now I've had the front two tires rebalanced
> and the bearings tightened up.
>
> New rear drive shaft U joints
> No play in steering
> Ball joints are fine
> New steering stabilizer
> New 2.5 skyjacker suspension with shocks/bushings (has 2 inch body lift new)
> New shackles (stock) and bushings
> New 33x13.5 superswamper TSLs on New 10x15 wheels (front 2 just rebalanced)
> Tightened up front bearings.
>
> Motor/tranny mounts are shot.
> Swaybar bushings are shot
>
> Why the hell am I still getting this shimmy/shake between 40-50 mph??? The
> thing wanders like a mother too but I'm figuring it's the bias ply
> tires...not to mention the width. Any suggestions? Are my axles bent?
> Thanks!
> Allen
> 83 CJ7
#13
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Re: Suspension frustration!
You have a u-joint in the steering column just in front of the firewall,
check that.
Motor/tranny mounts bad can set up a harmonic shake you feel in the
steering too.
So can a shot rad fan clutch. When mine went bad I thought I was going
to lose a tire or something it shook so bad.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
>
> Okay, I've posted before, but now I've had the front two tires rebalanced
> and the bearings tightened up.
>
> New rear drive shaft U joints
> No play in steering
> Ball joints are fine
> New steering stabilizer
> New 2.5 skyjacker suspension with shocks/bushings (has 2 inch body lift new)
> New shackles (stock) and bushings
> New 33x13.5 superswamper TSLs on New 10x15 wheels (front 2 just rebalanced)
> Tightened up front bearings.
>
> Motor/tranny mounts are shot.
> Swaybar bushings are shot
>
> Why the hell am I still getting this shimmy/shake between 40-50 mph??? The
> thing wanders like a mother too but I'm figuring it's the bias ply
> tires...not to mention the width. Any suggestions? Are my axles bent?
> Thanks!
> Allen
> 83 CJ7
check that.
Motor/tranny mounts bad can set up a harmonic shake you feel in the
steering too.
So can a shot rad fan clutch. When mine went bad I thought I was going
to lose a tire or something it shook so bad.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
>
> Okay, I've posted before, but now I've had the front two tires rebalanced
> and the bearings tightened up.
>
> New rear drive shaft U joints
> No play in steering
> Ball joints are fine
> New steering stabilizer
> New 2.5 skyjacker suspension with shocks/bushings (has 2 inch body lift new)
> New shackles (stock) and bushings
> New 33x13.5 superswamper TSLs on New 10x15 wheels (front 2 just rebalanced)
> Tightened up front bearings.
>
> Motor/tranny mounts are shot.
> Swaybar bushings are shot
>
> Why the hell am I still getting this shimmy/shake between 40-50 mph??? The
> thing wanders like a mother too but I'm figuring it's the bias ply
> tires...not to mention the width. Any suggestions? Are my axles bent?
> Thanks!
> Allen
> 83 CJ7
#14
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Re: Suspension frustration!
That's the next thing I'm thinking about that is left to be done.
Thanks Jim!
Allen
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message news:3aWpb.21$li1.18@news02.roc.ny...
> Bill, he says he already replaced that.
>
> What about a front end alignment, Allen?
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3FA82811.C6BE3D7@***.net...
> > Hi Allen,
> > Replace the steering stabilizer shock absorber:
> >
>
http://www.jcwhitney.com/webapp/wcs/...lay?makeId=100
>
0123&productId=2925&catalogId=10101&langId=-1&modelId=1001391&storeId=10101
> > it will stop an out of align front from shimming, even with worn out
> > parts, like tie
> > rod ends or ball joints.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Okay, I've posted before, but now I've had the front two tires
> rebalanced
> > > and the bearings tightened up.
> > >
> > > New rear drive shaft U joints
> > > No play in steering
> > > Ball joints are fine
> > > New steering stabilizer
> > > New 2.5 skyjacker suspension with shocks/bushings (has 2 inch body
lift
> new)
> > > New shackles (stock) and bushings
> > > New 33x13.5 superswamper TSLs on New 10x15 wheels (front 2 just
> rebalanced)
> > > Tightened up front bearings.
> > >
> > > Motor/tranny mounts are shot.
> > > Swaybar bushings are shot
> > >
> > > Why the hell am I still getting this shimmy/shake between 40-50 mph???
> The
> > > thing wanders like a mother too but I'm figuring it's the bias ply
> > > tires...not to mention the width. Any suggestions? Are my axles bent?
> > > Thanks!
> > > Allen
> > > 83 CJ7
>
>
Thanks Jim!
Allen
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message news:3aWpb.21$li1.18@news02.roc.ny...
> Bill, he says he already replaced that.
>
> What about a front end alignment, Allen?
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3FA82811.C6BE3D7@***.net...
> > Hi Allen,
> > Replace the steering stabilizer shock absorber:
> >
>
http://www.jcwhitney.com/webapp/wcs/...lay?makeId=100
>
0123&productId=2925&catalogId=10101&langId=-1&modelId=1001391&storeId=10101
> > it will stop an out of align front from shimming, even with worn out
> > parts, like tie
> > rod ends or ball joints.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Okay, I've posted before, but now I've had the front two tires
> rebalanced
> > > and the bearings tightened up.
> > >
> > > New rear drive shaft U joints
> > > No play in steering
> > > Ball joints are fine
> > > New steering stabilizer
> > > New 2.5 skyjacker suspension with shocks/bushings (has 2 inch body
lift
> new)
> > > New shackles (stock) and bushings
> > > New 33x13.5 superswamper TSLs on New 10x15 wheels (front 2 just
> rebalanced)
> > > Tightened up front bearings.
> > >
> > > Motor/tranny mounts are shot.
> > > Swaybar bushings are shot
> > >
> > > Why the hell am I still getting this shimmy/shake between 40-50 mph???
> The
> > > thing wanders like a mother too but I'm figuring it's the bias ply
> > > tires...not to mention the width. Any suggestions? Are my axles bent?
> > > Thanks!
> > > Allen
> > > 83 CJ7
>
>
#15
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Re: Suspension frustration!
That's the next thing I'm thinking about that is left to be done.
Thanks Jim!
Allen
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message news:3aWpb.21$li1.18@news02.roc.ny...
> Bill, he says he already replaced that.
>
> What about a front end alignment, Allen?
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3FA82811.C6BE3D7@***.net...
> > Hi Allen,
> > Replace the steering stabilizer shock absorber:
> >
>
http://www.jcwhitney.com/webapp/wcs/...lay?makeId=100
>
0123&productId=2925&catalogId=10101&langId=-1&modelId=1001391&storeId=10101
> > it will stop an out of align front from shimming, even with worn out
> > parts, like tie
> > rod ends or ball joints.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Okay, I've posted before, but now I've had the front two tires
> rebalanced
> > > and the bearings tightened up.
> > >
> > > New rear drive shaft U joints
> > > No play in steering
> > > Ball joints are fine
> > > New steering stabilizer
> > > New 2.5 skyjacker suspension with shocks/bushings (has 2 inch body
lift
> new)
> > > New shackles (stock) and bushings
> > > New 33x13.5 superswamper TSLs on New 10x15 wheels (front 2 just
> rebalanced)
> > > Tightened up front bearings.
> > >
> > > Motor/tranny mounts are shot.
> > > Swaybar bushings are shot
> > >
> > > Why the hell am I still getting this shimmy/shake between 40-50 mph???
> The
> > > thing wanders like a mother too but I'm figuring it's the bias ply
> > > tires...not to mention the width. Any suggestions? Are my axles bent?
> > > Thanks!
> > > Allen
> > > 83 CJ7
>
>
Thanks Jim!
Allen
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message news:3aWpb.21$li1.18@news02.roc.ny...
> Bill, he says he already replaced that.
>
> What about a front end alignment, Allen?
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3FA82811.C6BE3D7@***.net...
> > Hi Allen,
> > Replace the steering stabilizer shock absorber:
> >
>
http://www.jcwhitney.com/webapp/wcs/...lay?makeId=100
>
0123&productId=2925&catalogId=10101&langId=-1&modelId=1001391&storeId=10101
> > it will stop an out of align front from shimming, even with worn out
> > parts, like tie
> > rod ends or ball joints.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Okay, I've posted before, but now I've had the front two tires
> rebalanced
> > > and the bearings tightened up.
> > >
> > > New rear drive shaft U joints
> > > No play in steering
> > > Ball joints are fine
> > > New steering stabilizer
> > > New 2.5 skyjacker suspension with shocks/bushings (has 2 inch body
lift
> new)
> > > New shackles (stock) and bushings
> > > New 33x13.5 superswamper TSLs on New 10x15 wheels (front 2 just
> rebalanced)
> > > Tightened up front bearings.
> > >
> > > Motor/tranny mounts are shot.
> > > Swaybar bushings are shot
> > >
> > > Why the hell am I still getting this shimmy/shake between 40-50 mph???
> The
> > > thing wanders like a mother too but I'm figuring it's the bias ply
> > > tires...not to mention the width. Any suggestions? Are my axles bent?
> > > Thanks!
> > > Allen
> > > 83 CJ7
>
>
#16
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Re: Suspension frustration!
That's the next thing I'm thinking about that is left to be done.
Thanks Jim!
Allen
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message news:3aWpb.21$li1.18@news02.roc.ny...
> Bill, he says he already replaced that.
>
> What about a front end alignment, Allen?
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3FA82811.C6BE3D7@***.net...
> > Hi Allen,
> > Replace the steering stabilizer shock absorber:
> >
>
http://www.jcwhitney.com/webapp/wcs/...lay?makeId=100
>
0123&productId=2925&catalogId=10101&langId=-1&modelId=1001391&storeId=10101
> > it will stop an out of align front from shimming, even with worn out
> > parts, like tie
> > rod ends or ball joints.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Okay, I've posted before, but now I've had the front two tires
> rebalanced
> > > and the bearings tightened up.
> > >
> > > New rear drive shaft U joints
> > > No play in steering
> > > Ball joints are fine
> > > New steering stabilizer
> > > New 2.5 skyjacker suspension with shocks/bushings (has 2 inch body
lift
> new)
> > > New shackles (stock) and bushings
> > > New 33x13.5 superswamper TSLs on New 10x15 wheels (front 2 just
> rebalanced)
> > > Tightened up front bearings.
> > >
> > > Motor/tranny mounts are shot.
> > > Swaybar bushings are shot
> > >
> > > Why the hell am I still getting this shimmy/shake between 40-50 mph???
> The
> > > thing wanders like a mother too but I'm figuring it's the bias ply
> > > tires...not to mention the width. Any suggestions? Are my axles bent?
> > > Thanks!
> > > Allen
> > > 83 CJ7
>
>
Thanks Jim!
Allen
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message news:3aWpb.21$li1.18@news02.roc.ny...
> Bill, he says he already replaced that.
>
> What about a front end alignment, Allen?
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3FA82811.C6BE3D7@***.net...
> > Hi Allen,
> > Replace the steering stabilizer shock absorber:
> >
>
http://www.jcwhitney.com/webapp/wcs/...lay?makeId=100
>
0123&productId=2925&catalogId=10101&langId=-1&modelId=1001391&storeId=10101
> > it will stop an out of align front from shimming, even with worn out
> > parts, like tie
> > rod ends or ball joints.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Okay, I've posted before, but now I've had the front two tires
> rebalanced
> > > and the bearings tightened up.
> > >
> > > New rear drive shaft U joints
> > > No play in steering
> > > Ball joints are fine
> > > New steering stabilizer
> > > New 2.5 skyjacker suspension with shocks/bushings (has 2 inch body
lift
> new)
> > > New shackles (stock) and bushings
> > > New 33x13.5 superswamper TSLs on New 10x15 wheels (front 2 just
> rebalanced)
> > > Tightened up front bearings.
> > >
> > > Motor/tranny mounts are shot.
> > > Swaybar bushings are shot
> > >
> > > Why the hell am I still getting this shimmy/shake between 40-50 mph???
> The
> > > thing wanders like a mother too but I'm figuring it's the bias ply
> > > tires...not to mention the width. Any suggestions? Are my axles bent?
> > > Thanks!
> > > Allen
> > > 83 CJ7
>
>
#17
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Re: Suspension frustration!
Could be right CRWLR, I mean I don't have play in the wheel, and there is no
visible slop in the ball joints but under load and bumps etc...they may do
other things. My next step is most likely ball joints/tie rod ends and a
good alignment. How difficult is it to replace that stuff anyway?
Allen
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vqgdvp7tuonfd6@corp.supernews.com...
> Your ball joints and/or tie rods are not nearly as healthy as you like to
> think.
>
> Your wobble is coming from the steering or front suspension. I would be
> looking at the steering linkage next since you seem to have new suspension
> components. Having said that, the suspenison parts (bushings mostly) can
be
> part of your problem. The swaybar bushings are probably not playing a part
> in your problem because many of us with CJ that have lift kits don't even
> have a swaybar. The TSLs could be a problem, but if they were a problem,
> then swapping them around should change the problem. Put the front tires
on
> the back, and vice versa. Or, swap you tires for an hour or two with a
buddy
> that has different tires on a CJ or other model with a 5 on 5.5 bolt
> pattern. You don't really care that the swappee's tires are too big or too
> small, you only need them on long enough to drive at the problem speed to
> see if the problem repeats or goes away.
>
>
>
> <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:7jVpb.34583$3N5.25858@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > Okay, I've posted before, but now I've had the front two tires
rebalanced
> > and the bearings tightened up.
> >
> > New rear drive shaft U joints
> > No play in steering
> > Ball joints are fine
> > New steering stabilizer
> > New 2.5 skyjacker suspension with shocks/bushings (has 2 inch body lift
> new)
> > New shackles (stock) and bushings
> > New 33x13.5 superswamper TSLs on New 10x15 wheels (front 2 just
> rebalanced)
> > Tightened up front bearings.
> >
> > Motor/tranny mounts are shot.
> > Swaybar bushings are shot
> >
> > Why the hell am I still getting this shimmy/shake between 40-50 mph???
The
> > thing wanders like a mother too but I'm figuring it's the bias ply
> > tires...not to mention the width. Any suggestions? Are my axles bent?
> > Thanks!
> > Allen
> > 83 CJ7
> >
> >
> >
>
visible slop in the ball joints but under load and bumps etc...they may do
other things. My next step is most likely ball joints/tie rod ends and a
good alignment. How difficult is it to replace that stuff anyway?
Allen
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vqgdvp7tuonfd6@corp.supernews.com...
> Your ball joints and/or tie rods are not nearly as healthy as you like to
> think.
>
> Your wobble is coming from the steering or front suspension. I would be
> looking at the steering linkage next since you seem to have new suspension
> components. Having said that, the suspenison parts (bushings mostly) can
be
> part of your problem. The swaybar bushings are probably not playing a part
> in your problem because many of us with CJ that have lift kits don't even
> have a swaybar. The TSLs could be a problem, but if they were a problem,
> then swapping them around should change the problem. Put the front tires
on
> the back, and vice versa. Or, swap you tires for an hour or two with a
buddy
> that has different tires on a CJ or other model with a 5 on 5.5 bolt
> pattern. You don't really care that the swappee's tires are too big or too
> small, you only need them on long enough to drive at the problem speed to
> see if the problem repeats or goes away.
>
>
>
> <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:7jVpb.34583$3N5.25858@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > Okay, I've posted before, but now I've had the front two tires
rebalanced
> > and the bearings tightened up.
> >
> > New rear drive shaft U joints
> > No play in steering
> > Ball joints are fine
> > New steering stabilizer
> > New 2.5 skyjacker suspension with shocks/bushings (has 2 inch body lift
> new)
> > New shackles (stock) and bushings
> > New 33x13.5 superswamper TSLs on New 10x15 wheels (front 2 just
> rebalanced)
> > Tightened up front bearings.
> >
> > Motor/tranny mounts are shot.
> > Swaybar bushings are shot
> >
> > Why the hell am I still getting this shimmy/shake between 40-50 mph???
The
> > thing wanders like a mother too but I'm figuring it's the bias ply
> > tires...not to mention the width. Any suggestions? Are my axles bent?
> > Thanks!
> > Allen
> > 83 CJ7
> >
> >
> >
>
#18
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Posts: n/a
Re: Suspension frustration!
Could be right CRWLR, I mean I don't have play in the wheel, and there is no
visible slop in the ball joints but under load and bumps etc...they may do
other things. My next step is most likely ball joints/tie rod ends and a
good alignment. How difficult is it to replace that stuff anyway?
Allen
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vqgdvp7tuonfd6@corp.supernews.com...
> Your ball joints and/or tie rods are not nearly as healthy as you like to
> think.
>
> Your wobble is coming from the steering or front suspension. I would be
> looking at the steering linkage next since you seem to have new suspension
> components. Having said that, the suspenison parts (bushings mostly) can
be
> part of your problem. The swaybar bushings are probably not playing a part
> in your problem because many of us with CJ that have lift kits don't even
> have a swaybar. The TSLs could be a problem, but if they were a problem,
> then swapping them around should change the problem. Put the front tires
on
> the back, and vice versa. Or, swap you tires for an hour or two with a
buddy
> that has different tires on a CJ or other model with a 5 on 5.5 bolt
> pattern. You don't really care that the swappee's tires are too big or too
> small, you only need them on long enough to drive at the problem speed to
> see if the problem repeats or goes away.
>
>
>
> <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:7jVpb.34583$3N5.25858@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > Okay, I've posted before, but now I've had the front two tires
rebalanced
> > and the bearings tightened up.
> >
> > New rear drive shaft U joints
> > No play in steering
> > Ball joints are fine
> > New steering stabilizer
> > New 2.5 skyjacker suspension with shocks/bushings (has 2 inch body lift
> new)
> > New shackles (stock) and bushings
> > New 33x13.5 superswamper TSLs on New 10x15 wheels (front 2 just
> rebalanced)
> > Tightened up front bearings.
> >
> > Motor/tranny mounts are shot.
> > Swaybar bushings are shot
> >
> > Why the hell am I still getting this shimmy/shake between 40-50 mph???
The
> > thing wanders like a mother too but I'm figuring it's the bias ply
> > tires...not to mention the width. Any suggestions? Are my axles bent?
> > Thanks!
> > Allen
> > 83 CJ7
> >
> >
> >
>
visible slop in the ball joints but under load and bumps etc...they may do
other things. My next step is most likely ball joints/tie rod ends and a
good alignment. How difficult is it to replace that stuff anyway?
Allen
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vqgdvp7tuonfd6@corp.supernews.com...
> Your ball joints and/or tie rods are not nearly as healthy as you like to
> think.
>
> Your wobble is coming from the steering or front suspension. I would be
> looking at the steering linkage next since you seem to have new suspension
> components. Having said that, the suspenison parts (bushings mostly) can
be
> part of your problem. The swaybar bushings are probably not playing a part
> in your problem because many of us with CJ that have lift kits don't even
> have a swaybar. The TSLs could be a problem, but if they were a problem,
> then swapping them around should change the problem. Put the front tires
on
> the back, and vice versa. Or, swap you tires for an hour or two with a
buddy
> that has different tires on a CJ or other model with a 5 on 5.5 bolt
> pattern. You don't really care that the swappee's tires are too big or too
> small, you only need them on long enough to drive at the problem speed to
> see if the problem repeats or goes away.
>
>
>
> <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:7jVpb.34583$3N5.25858@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > Okay, I've posted before, but now I've had the front two tires
rebalanced
> > and the bearings tightened up.
> >
> > New rear drive shaft U joints
> > No play in steering
> > Ball joints are fine
> > New steering stabilizer
> > New 2.5 skyjacker suspension with shocks/bushings (has 2 inch body lift
> new)
> > New shackles (stock) and bushings
> > New 33x13.5 superswamper TSLs on New 10x15 wheels (front 2 just
> rebalanced)
> > Tightened up front bearings.
> >
> > Motor/tranny mounts are shot.
> > Swaybar bushings are shot
> >
> > Why the hell am I still getting this shimmy/shake between 40-50 mph???
The
> > thing wanders like a mother too but I'm figuring it's the bias ply
> > tires...not to mention the width. Any suggestions? Are my axles bent?
> > Thanks!
> > Allen
> > 83 CJ7
> >
> >
> >
>
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Suspension frustration!
Could be right CRWLR, I mean I don't have play in the wheel, and there is no
visible slop in the ball joints but under load and bumps etc...they may do
other things. My next step is most likely ball joints/tie rod ends and a
good alignment. How difficult is it to replace that stuff anyway?
Allen
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vqgdvp7tuonfd6@corp.supernews.com...
> Your ball joints and/or tie rods are not nearly as healthy as you like to
> think.
>
> Your wobble is coming from the steering or front suspension. I would be
> looking at the steering linkage next since you seem to have new suspension
> components. Having said that, the suspenison parts (bushings mostly) can
be
> part of your problem. The swaybar bushings are probably not playing a part
> in your problem because many of us with CJ that have lift kits don't even
> have a swaybar. The TSLs could be a problem, but if they were a problem,
> then swapping them around should change the problem. Put the front tires
on
> the back, and vice versa. Or, swap you tires for an hour or two with a
buddy
> that has different tires on a CJ or other model with a 5 on 5.5 bolt
> pattern. You don't really care that the swappee's tires are too big or too
> small, you only need them on long enough to drive at the problem speed to
> see if the problem repeats or goes away.
>
>
>
> <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:7jVpb.34583$3N5.25858@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > Okay, I've posted before, but now I've had the front two tires
rebalanced
> > and the bearings tightened up.
> >
> > New rear drive shaft U joints
> > No play in steering
> > Ball joints are fine
> > New steering stabilizer
> > New 2.5 skyjacker suspension with shocks/bushings (has 2 inch body lift
> new)
> > New shackles (stock) and bushings
> > New 33x13.5 superswamper TSLs on New 10x15 wheels (front 2 just
> rebalanced)
> > Tightened up front bearings.
> >
> > Motor/tranny mounts are shot.
> > Swaybar bushings are shot
> >
> > Why the hell am I still getting this shimmy/shake between 40-50 mph???
The
> > thing wanders like a mother too but I'm figuring it's the bias ply
> > tires...not to mention the width. Any suggestions? Are my axles bent?
> > Thanks!
> > Allen
> > 83 CJ7
> >
> >
> >
>
visible slop in the ball joints but under load and bumps etc...they may do
other things. My next step is most likely ball joints/tie rod ends and a
good alignment. How difficult is it to replace that stuff anyway?
Allen
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vqgdvp7tuonfd6@corp.supernews.com...
> Your ball joints and/or tie rods are not nearly as healthy as you like to
> think.
>
> Your wobble is coming from the steering or front suspension. I would be
> looking at the steering linkage next since you seem to have new suspension
> components. Having said that, the suspenison parts (bushings mostly) can
be
> part of your problem. The swaybar bushings are probably not playing a part
> in your problem because many of us with CJ that have lift kits don't even
> have a swaybar. The TSLs could be a problem, but if they were a problem,
> then swapping them around should change the problem. Put the front tires
on
> the back, and vice versa. Or, swap you tires for an hour or two with a
buddy
> that has different tires on a CJ or other model with a 5 on 5.5 bolt
> pattern. You don't really care that the swappee's tires are too big or too
> small, you only need them on long enough to drive at the problem speed to
> see if the problem repeats or goes away.
>
>
>
> <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:7jVpb.34583$3N5.25858@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > Okay, I've posted before, but now I've had the front two tires
rebalanced
> > and the bearings tightened up.
> >
> > New rear drive shaft U joints
> > No play in steering
> > Ball joints are fine
> > New steering stabilizer
> > New 2.5 skyjacker suspension with shocks/bushings (has 2 inch body lift
> new)
> > New shackles (stock) and bushings
> > New 33x13.5 superswamper TSLs on New 10x15 wheels (front 2 just
> rebalanced)
> > Tightened up front bearings.
> >
> > Motor/tranny mounts are shot.
> > Swaybar bushings are shot
> >
> > Why the hell am I still getting this shimmy/shake between 40-50 mph???
The
> > thing wanders like a mother too but I'm figuring it's the bias ply
> > tires...not to mention the width. Any suggestions? Are my axles bent?
> > Thanks!
> > Allen
> > 83 CJ7
> >
> >
> >
>
#20
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Posts: n/a
Re: Suspension frustration!
Most points have already been covered here, but another thought, is the
steering box mount loose or cracked anywhere?
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vqgdvp7tuonfd6@corp.supernews.com...
> Your ball joints and/or tie rods are not nearly as healthy as you like to
> think.
>
> Your wobble is coming from the steering or front suspension. I would be
> looking at the steering linkage next since you seem to have new suspension
> components. Having said that, the suspenison parts (bushings mostly) can
be
> part of your problem. The swaybar bushings are probably not playing a part
> in your problem because many of us with CJ that have lift kits don't even
> have a swaybar. The TSLs could be a problem, but if they were a problem,
> then swapping them around should change the problem. Put the front tires
on
> the back, and vice versa. Or, swap you tires for an hour or two with a
buddy
> that has different tires on a CJ or other model with a 5 on 5.5 bolt
> pattern. You don't really care that the swappee's tires are too big or too
> small, you only need them on long enough to drive at the problem speed to
> see if the problem repeats or goes away.
>
>
>
> <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:7jVpb.34583$3N5.25858@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > Okay, I've posted before, but now I've had the front two tires
rebalanced
> > and the bearings tightened up.
> >
> > New rear drive shaft U joints
> > No play in steering
> > Ball joints are fine
> > New steering stabilizer
> > New 2.5 skyjacker suspension with shocks/bushings (has 2 inch body lift
> new)
> > New shackles (stock) and bushings
> > New 33x13.5 superswamper TSLs on New 10x15 wheels (front 2 just
> rebalanced)
> > Tightened up front bearings.
> >
> > Motor/tranny mounts are shot.
> > Swaybar bushings are shot
> >
> > Why the hell am I still getting this shimmy/shake between 40-50 mph???
The
> > thing wanders like a mother too but I'm figuring it's the bias ply
> > tires...not to mention the width. Any suggestions? Are my axles bent?
> > Thanks!
> > Allen
> > 83 CJ7
> >
> >
> >
>
steering box mount loose or cracked anywhere?
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vqgdvp7tuonfd6@corp.supernews.com...
> Your ball joints and/or tie rods are not nearly as healthy as you like to
> think.
>
> Your wobble is coming from the steering or front suspension. I would be
> looking at the steering linkage next since you seem to have new suspension
> components. Having said that, the suspenison parts (bushings mostly) can
be
> part of your problem. The swaybar bushings are probably not playing a part
> in your problem because many of us with CJ that have lift kits don't even
> have a swaybar. The TSLs could be a problem, but if they were a problem,
> then swapping them around should change the problem. Put the front tires
on
> the back, and vice versa. Or, swap you tires for an hour or two with a
buddy
> that has different tires on a CJ or other model with a 5 on 5.5 bolt
> pattern. You don't really care that the swappee's tires are too big or too
> small, you only need them on long enough to drive at the problem speed to
> see if the problem repeats or goes away.
>
>
>
> <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:7jVpb.34583$3N5.25858@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> > Okay, I've posted before, but now I've had the front two tires
rebalanced
> > and the bearings tightened up.
> >
> > New rear drive shaft U joints
> > No play in steering
> > Ball joints are fine
> > New steering stabilizer
> > New 2.5 skyjacker suspension with shocks/bushings (has 2 inch body lift
> new)
> > New shackles (stock) and bushings
> > New 33x13.5 superswamper TSLs on New 10x15 wheels (front 2 just
> rebalanced)
> > Tightened up front bearings.
> >
> > Motor/tranny mounts are shot.
> > Swaybar bushings are shot
> >
> > Why the hell am I still getting this shimmy/shake between 40-50 mph???
The
> > thing wanders like a mother too but I'm figuring it's the bias ply
> > tires...not to mention the width. Any suggestions? Are my axles bent?
> > Thanks!
> > Allen
> > 83 CJ7
> >
> >
> >
>