Suspension frustration!
11-04-2003, 10:56 PM
#41
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Re: Suspension frustration!
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 21:59:31 GMT, <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Motor/tranny mounts are shot.
>Swaybar bushings are shot
>
>Why the hell am I still getting this shimmy/shake between 40-50 mph???
If the mounts are shot, change them - you already lifted it, which
changed the driveline angles, out of whack mounts make it worse.
Did you do a transfer case lowering kit? Did your lift have shims for
the rear axle? Jack up one end at a time, spin the driveshaft(s) and
see if they wobble.
If you had a death wobble, you would feel it in the steering wheel.
Tookie - 88YJ,"Money Hungry"
4" lift, 33" TSLs, Lock-Rights
PosiLock, 4.10s
>
>Motor/tranny mounts are shot.
>Swaybar bushings are shot
>
>Why the hell am I still getting this shimmy/shake between 40-50 mph???
If the mounts are shot, change them - you already lifted it, which
changed the driveline angles, out of whack mounts make it worse.
Did you do a transfer case lowering kit? Did your lift have shims for
the rear axle? Jack up one end at a time, spin the driveshaft(s) and
see if they wobble.
If you had a death wobble, you would feel it in the steering wheel.
Tookie - 88YJ,"Money Hungry"
4" lift, 33" TSLs, Lock-Rights
PosiLock, 4.10s
11-04-2003, 10:56 PM
#42
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Re: Suspension frustration!
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 21:59:31 GMT, <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Motor/tranny mounts are shot.
>Swaybar bushings are shot
>
>Why the hell am I still getting this shimmy/shake between 40-50 mph???
If the mounts are shot, change them - you already lifted it, which
changed the driveline angles, out of whack mounts make it worse.
Did you do a transfer case lowering kit? Did your lift have shims for
the rear axle? Jack up one end at a time, spin the driveshaft(s) and
see if they wobble.
If you had a death wobble, you would feel it in the steering wheel.
Tookie - 88YJ,"Money Hungry"
4" lift, 33" TSLs, Lock-Rights
PosiLock, 4.10s
>
>Motor/tranny mounts are shot.
>Swaybar bushings are shot
>
>Why the hell am I still getting this shimmy/shake between 40-50 mph???
If the mounts are shot, change them - you already lifted it, which
changed the driveline angles, out of whack mounts make it worse.
Did you do a transfer case lowering kit? Did your lift have shims for
the rear axle? Jack up one end at a time, spin the driveshaft(s) and
see if they wobble.
If you had a death wobble, you would feel it in the steering wheel.
Tookie - 88YJ,"Money Hungry"
4" lift, 33" TSLs, Lock-Rights
PosiLock, 4.10s
11-04-2003, 10:56 PM
#43
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Re: Suspension frustration!
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 21:59:31 GMT, <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Motor/tranny mounts are shot.
>Swaybar bushings are shot
>
>Why the hell am I still getting this shimmy/shake between 40-50 mph???
If the mounts are shot, change them - you already lifted it, which
changed the driveline angles, out of whack mounts make it worse.
Did you do a transfer case lowering kit? Did your lift have shims for
the rear axle? Jack up one end at a time, spin the driveshaft(s) and
see if they wobble.
If you had a death wobble, you would feel it in the steering wheel.
Tookie - 88YJ,"Money Hungry"
4" lift, 33" TSLs, Lock-Rights
PosiLock, 4.10s
>
>Motor/tranny mounts are shot.
>Swaybar bushings are shot
>
>Why the hell am I still getting this shimmy/shake between 40-50 mph???
If the mounts are shot, change them - you already lifted it, which
changed the driveline angles, out of whack mounts make it worse.
Did you do a transfer case lowering kit? Did your lift have shims for
the rear axle? Jack up one end at a time, spin the driveshaft(s) and
see if they wobble.
If you had a death wobble, you would feel it in the steering wheel.
Tookie - 88YJ,"Money Hungry"
4" lift, 33" TSLs, Lock-Rights
PosiLock, 4.10s
11-05-2003, 09:58 AM
#44
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Re: Suspension frustration!
That damn fan was a bugger to figure out.
It seriously had me worried I was going to lose a front tire or
something. It started to shake at about 55 mph and would stop at 65
mph. It acted like a tie rod end bad. You know, the vibe would go away
when taking a corner or changing lanes with pressure one way or the
other from the steering wheel to the tires.
A loose tranny or engine mount can knock the driveshaft u-joints 'just'
past the vibration point angle, especially if the vehicle has any kind
of suspension lift.
Mike
CRWLR wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FA84237.8A8B5988@sympatico.ca...
> > You have a u-joint in the steering column just in front of the firewall,
> > check that.
> >
> This is a good one that I forgot about. You can see this when you have
> either tire against the curb.
>
> > Motor/tranny mounts bad can set up a harmonic shake you feel in the
> > steering too.
> >
> I wouldn't have thought of this. Infact, I came close to telling him to
> discount this. I think I see where youare coming from on this one, but
> wouldn't the vibration be at a higher frequency than a steering anomoly?
>
> > So can a shot rad fan clutch. When mine went bad I thought I was going
> > to lose a tire or something it shook so bad.
> >
> I would have thought this would be a visible problem that could be seen at
> idle. I'm thinking of the fan being off center or something along those
> lines, and the fan would generate a high frequency vibration as well. I tend
> to forget about what the fan can do because I haven't got a fan clutch. My
> fan is fixed to the pulley.
>
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
It seriously had me worried I was going to lose a front tire or
something. It started to shake at about 55 mph and would stop at 65
mph. It acted like a tie rod end bad. You know, the vibe would go away
when taking a corner or changing lanes with pressure one way or the
other from the steering wheel to the tires.
A loose tranny or engine mount can knock the driveshaft u-joints 'just'
past the vibration point angle, especially if the vehicle has any kind
of suspension lift.
Mike
CRWLR wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FA84237.8A8B5988@sympatico.ca...
> > You have a u-joint in the steering column just in front of the firewall,
> > check that.
> >
> This is a good one that I forgot about. You can see this when you have
> either tire against the curb.
>
> > Motor/tranny mounts bad can set up a harmonic shake you feel in the
> > steering too.
> >
> I wouldn't have thought of this. Infact, I came close to telling him to
> discount this. I think I see where youare coming from on this one, but
> wouldn't the vibration be at a higher frequency than a steering anomoly?
>
> > So can a shot rad fan clutch. When mine went bad I thought I was going
> > to lose a tire or something it shook so bad.
> >
> I would have thought this would be a visible problem that could be seen at
> idle. I'm thinking of the fan being off center or something along those
> lines, and the fan would generate a high frequency vibration as well. I tend
> to forget about what the fan can do because I haven't got a fan clutch. My
> fan is fixed to the pulley.
>
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
11-05-2003, 09:58 AM
#45
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Re: Suspension frustration!
That damn fan was a bugger to figure out.
It seriously had me worried I was going to lose a front tire or
something. It started to shake at about 55 mph and would stop at 65
mph. It acted like a tie rod end bad. You know, the vibe would go away
when taking a corner or changing lanes with pressure one way or the
other from the steering wheel to the tires.
A loose tranny or engine mount can knock the driveshaft u-joints 'just'
past the vibration point angle, especially if the vehicle has any kind
of suspension lift.
Mike
CRWLR wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FA84237.8A8B5988@sympatico.ca...
> > You have a u-joint in the steering column just in front of the firewall,
> > check that.
> >
> This is a good one that I forgot about. You can see this when you have
> either tire against the curb.
>
> > Motor/tranny mounts bad can set up a harmonic shake you feel in the
> > steering too.
> >
> I wouldn't have thought of this. Infact, I came close to telling him to
> discount this. I think I see where youare coming from on this one, but
> wouldn't the vibration be at a higher frequency than a steering anomoly?
>
> > So can a shot rad fan clutch. When mine went bad I thought I was going
> > to lose a tire or something it shook so bad.
> >
> I would have thought this would be a visible problem that could be seen at
> idle. I'm thinking of the fan being off center or something along those
> lines, and the fan would generate a high frequency vibration as well. I tend
> to forget about what the fan can do because I haven't got a fan clutch. My
> fan is fixed to the pulley.
>
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
It seriously had me worried I was going to lose a front tire or
something. It started to shake at about 55 mph and would stop at 65
mph. It acted like a tie rod end bad. You know, the vibe would go away
when taking a corner or changing lanes with pressure one way or the
other from the steering wheel to the tires.
A loose tranny or engine mount can knock the driveshaft u-joints 'just'
past the vibration point angle, especially if the vehicle has any kind
of suspension lift.
Mike
CRWLR wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FA84237.8A8B5988@sympatico.ca...
> > You have a u-joint in the steering column just in front of the firewall,
> > check that.
> >
> This is a good one that I forgot about. You can see this when you have
> either tire against the curb.
>
> > Motor/tranny mounts bad can set up a harmonic shake you feel in the
> > steering too.
> >
> I wouldn't have thought of this. Infact, I came close to telling him to
> discount this. I think I see where youare coming from on this one, but
> wouldn't the vibration be at a higher frequency than a steering anomoly?
>
> > So can a shot rad fan clutch. When mine went bad I thought I was going
> > to lose a tire or something it shook so bad.
> >
> I would have thought this would be a visible problem that could be seen at
> idle. I'm thinking of the fan being off center or something along those
> lines, and the fan would generate a high frequency vibration as well. I tend
> to forget about what the fan can do because I haven't got a fan clutch. My
> fan is fixed to the pulley.
>
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
11-05-2003, 09:58 AM
#46
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Re: Suspension frustration!
That damn fan was a bugger to figure out.
It seriously had me worried I was going to lose a front tire or
something. It started to shake at about 55 mph and would stop at 65
mph. It acted like a tie rod end bad. You know, the vibe would go away
when taking a corner or changing lanes with pressure one way or the
other from the steering wheel to the tires.
A loose tranny or engine mount can knock the driveshaft u-joints 'just'
past the vibration point angle, especially if the vehicle has any kind
of suspension lift.
Mike
CRWLR wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FA84237.8A8B5988@sympatico.ca...
> > You have a u-joint in the steering column just in front of the firewall,
> > check that.
> >
> This is a good one that I forgot about. You can see this when you have
> either tire against the curb.
>
> > Motor/tranny mounts bad can set up a harmonic shake you feel in the
> > steering too.
> >
> I wouldn't have thought of this. Infact, I came close to telling him to
> discount this. I think I see where youare coming from on this one, but
> wouldn't the vibration be at a higher frequency than a steering anomoly?
>
> > So can a shot rad fan clutch. When mine went bad I thought I was going
> > to lose a tire or something it shook so bad.
> >
> I would have thought this would be a visible problem that could be seen at
> idle. I'm thinking of the fan being off center or something along those
> lines, and the fan would generate a high frequency vibration as well. I tend
> to forget about what the fan can do because I haven't got a fan clutch. My
> fan is fixed to the pulley.
>
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
It seriously had me worried I was going to lose a front tire or
something. It started to shake at about 55 mph and would stop at 65
mph. It acted like a tie rod end bad. You know, the vibe would go away
when taking a corner or changing lanes with pressure one way or the
other from the steering wheel to the tires.
A loose tranny or engine mount can knock the driveshaft u-joints 'just'
past the vibration point angle, especially if the vehicle has any kind
of suspension lift.
Mike
CRWLR wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FA84237.8A8B5988@sympatico.ca...
> > You have a u-joint in the steering column just in front of the firewall,
> > check that.
> >
> This is a good one that I forgot about. You can see this when you have
> either tire against the curb.
>
> > Motor/tranny mounts bad can set up a harmonic shake you feel in the
> > steering too.
> >
> I wouldn't have thought of this. Infact, I came close to telling him to
> discount this. I think I see where youare coming from on this one, but
> wouldn't the vibration be at a higher frequency than a steering anomoly?
>
> > So can a shot rad fan clutch. When mine went bad I thought I was going
> > to lose a tire or something it shook so bad.
> >
> I would have thought this would be a visible problem that could be seen at
> idle. I'm thinking of the fan being off center or something along those
> lines, and the fan would generate a high frequency vibration as well. I tend
> to forget about what the fan can do because I haven't got a fan clutch. My
> fan is fixed to the pulley.
>
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
11-05-2003, 10:05 AM
#47
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Re: Suspension frustration!
I sure would be changing those bad motor/tranny mounts before spending
money on anything else.
Someone else mentioned you have a lift.
With a lift, a bad engine or tranny mount can knock the driveshaft angle
just past the point of vibrating, especially when under load, like in
4th at 40 or 50 mph.
Ball joints and tie rod ends show in the steering wheel if bad
'usually'.
Mike
ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
>
> It's funny but there is no shake in the wheel at all,..it's all in the body.
> The wheel is as steady as can be.
> I don't have a fan clutch and the fan is sturdy (to the water
> pump...bearings all good). I think I'm going to try and replace the ball
> joints/tie rods myself (this should be fun....never done it) then take it in
> for a good alignment.
> Allen
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vqgibmmf4qh8bd@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FA84237.8A8B5988@sympatico.ca...
> > > You have a u-joint in the steering column just in front of the firewall,
> > > check that.
> > >
> > This is a good one that I forgot about. You can see this when you have
> > either tire against the curb.
> >
> >
> > > Motor/tranny mounts bad can set up a harmonic shake you feel in the
> > > steering too.
> > >
> > I wouldn't have thought of this. Infact, I came close to telling him to
> > discount this. I think I see where youare coming from on this one, but
> > wouldn't the vibration be at a higher frequency than a steering anomoly?
> >
> >
> > > So can a shot rad fan clutch. When mine went bad I thought I was going
> > > to lose a tire or something it shook so bad.
> > >
> > I would have thought this would be a visible problem that could be seen at
> > idle. I'm thinking of the fan being off center or something along those
> > lines, and the fan would generate a high frequency vibration as well. I
> tend
> > to forget about what the fan can do because I haven't got a fan clutch. My
> > fan is fixed to the pulley.
> >
> >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
money on anything else.
Someone else mentioned you have a lift.
With a lift, a bad engine or tranny mount can knock the driveshaft angle
just past the point of vibrating, especially when under load, like in
4th at 40 or 50 mph.
Ball joints and tie rod ends show in the steering wheel if bad
'usually'.
Mike
ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
>
> It's funny but there is no shake in the wheel at all,..it's all in the body.
> The wheel is as steady as can be.
> I don't have a fan clutch and the fan is sturdy (to the water
> pump...bearings all good). I think I'm going to try and replace the ball
> joints/tie rods myself (this should be fun....never done it) then take it in
> for a good alignment.
> Allen
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vqgibmmf4qh8bd@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FA84237.8A8B5988@sympatico.ca...
> > > You have a u-joint in the steering column just in front of the firewall,
> > > check that.
> > >
> > This is a good one that I forgot about. You can see this when you have
> > either tire against the curb.
> >
> >
> > > Motor/tranny mounts bad can set up a harmonic shake you feel in the
> > > steering too.
> > >
> > I wouldn't have thought of this. Infact, I came close to telling him to
> > discount this. I think I see where youare coming from on this one, but
> > wouldn't the vibration be at a higher frequency than a steering anomoly?
> >
> >
> > > So can a shot rad fan clutch. When mine went bad I thought I was going
> > > to lose a tire or something it shook so bad.
> > >
> > I would have thought this would be a visible problem that could be seen at
> > idle. I'm thinking of the fan being off center or something along those
> > lines, and the fan would generate a high frequency vibration as well. I
> tend
> > to forget about what the fan can do because I haven't got a fan clutch. My
> > fan is fixed to the pulley.
> >
> >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
11-05-2003, 10:05 AM
#48
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Suspension frustration!
I sure would be changing those bad motor/tranny mounts before spending
money on anything else.
Someone else mentioned you have a lift.
With a lift, a bad engine or tranny mount can knock the driveshaft angle
just past the point of vibrating, especially when under load, like in
4th at 40 or 50 mph.
Ball joints and tie rod ends show in the steering wheel if bad
'usually'.
Mike
ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
>
> It's funny but there is no shake in the wheel at all,..it's all in the body.
> The wheel is as steady as can be.
> I don't have a fan clutch and the fan is sturdy (to the water
> pump...bearings all good). I think I'm going to try and replace the ball
> joints/tie rods myself (this should be fun....never done it) then take it in
> for a good alignment.
> Allen
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vqgibmmf4qh8bd@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FA84237.8A8B5988@sympatico.ca...
> > > You have a u-joint in the steering column just in front of the firewall,
> > > check that.
> > >
> > This is a good one that I forgot about. You can see this when you have
> > either tire against the curb.
> >
> >
> > > Motor/tranny mounts bad can set up a harmonic shake you feel in the
> > > steering too.
> > >
> > I wouldn't have thought of this. Infact, I came close to telling him to
> > discount this. I think I see where youare coming from on this one, but
> > wouldn't the vibration be at a higher frequency than a steering anomoly?
> >
> >
> > > So can a shot rad fan clutch. When mine went bad I thought I was going
> > > to lose a tire or something it shook so bad.
> > >
> > I would have thought this would be a visible problem that could be seen at
> > idle. I'm thinking of the fan being off center or something along those
> > lines, and the fan would generate a high frequency vibration as well. I
> tend
> > to forget about what the fan can do because I haven't got a fan clutch. My
> > fan is fixed to the pulley.
> >
> >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
money on anything else.
Someone else mentioned you have a lift.
With a lift, a bad engine or tranny mount can knock the driveshaft angle
just past the point of vibrating, especially when under load, like in
4th at 40 or 50 mph.
Ball joints and tie rod ends show in the steering wheel if bad
'usually'.
Mike
ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
>
> It's funny but there is no shake in the wheel at all,..it's all in the body.
> The wheel is as steady as can be.
> I don't have a fan clutch and the fan is sturdy (to the water
> pump...bearings all good). I think I'm going to try and replace the ball
> joints/tie rods myself (this should be fun....never done it) then take it in
> for a good alignment.
> Allen
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vqgibmmf4qh8bd@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FA84237.8A8B5988@sympatico.ca...
> > > You have a u-joint in the steering column just in front of the firewall,
> > > check that.
> > >
> > This is a good one that I forgot about. You can see this when you have
> > either tire against the curb.
> >
> >
> > > Motor/tranny mounts bad can set up a harmonic shake you feel in the
> > > steering too.
> > >
> > I wouldn't have thought of this. Infact, I came close to telling him to
> > discount this. I think I see where youare coming from on this one, but
> > wouldn't the vibration be at a higher frequency than a steering anomoly?
> >
> >
> > > So can a shot rad fan clutch. When mine went bad I thought I was going
> > > to lose a tire or something it shook so bad.
> > >
> > I would have thought this would be a visible problem that could be seen at
> > idle. I'm thinking of the fan being off center or something along those
> > lines, and the fan would generate a high frequency vibration as well. I
> tend
> > to forget about what the fan can do because I haven't got a fan clutch. My
> > fan is fixed to the pulley.
> >
> >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
11-05-2003, 10:05 AM
#49
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Suspension frustration!
I sure would be changing those bad motor/tranny mounts before spending
money on anything else.
Someone else mentioned you have a lift.
With a lift, a bad engine or tranny mount can knock the driveshaft angle
just past the point of vibrating, especially when under load, like in
4th at 40 or 50 mph.
Ball joints and tie rod ends show in the steering wheel if bad
'usually'.
Mike
ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
>
> It's funny but there is no shake in the wheel at all,..it's all in the body.
> The wheel is as steady as can be.
> I don't have a fan clutch and the fan is sturdy (to the water
> pump...bearings all good). I think I'm going to try and replace the ball
> joints/tie rods myself (this should be fun....never done it) then take it in
> for a good alignment.
> Allen
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vqgibmmf4qh8bd@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FA84237.8A8B5988@sympatico.ca...
> > > You have a u-joint in the steering column just in front of the firewall,
> > > check that.
> > >
> > This is a good one that I forgot about. You can see this when you have
> > either tire against the curb.
> >
> >
> > > Motor/tranny mounts bad can set up a harmonic shake you feel in the
> > > steering too.
> > >
> > I wouldn't have thought of this. Infact, I came close to telling him to
> > discount this. I think I see where youare coming from on this one, but
> > wouldn't the vibration be at a higher frequency than a steering anomoly?
> >
> >
> > > So can a shot rad fan clutch. When mine went bad I thought I was going
> > > to lose a tire or something it shook so bad.
> > >
> > I would have thought this would be a visible problem that could be seen at
> > idle. I'm thinking of the fan being off center or something along those
> > lines, and the fan would generate a high frequency vibration as well. I
> tend
> > to forget about what the fan can do because I haven't got a fan clutch. My
> > fan is fixed to the pulley.
> >
> >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
money on anything else.
Someone else mentioned you have a lift.
With a lift, a bad engine or tranny mount can knock the driveshaft angle
just past the point of vibrating, especially when under load, like in
4th at 40 or 50 mph.
Ball joints and tie rod ends show in the steering wheel if bad
'usually'.
Mike
ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
>
> It's funny but there is no shake in the wheel at all,..it's all in the body.
> The wheel is as steady as can be.
> I don't have a fan clutch and the fan is sturdy (to the water
> pump...bearings all good). I think I'm going to try and replace the ball
> joints/tie rods myself (this should be fun....never done it) then take it in
> for a good alignment.
> Allen
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vqgibmmf4qh8bd@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FA84237.8A8B5988@sympatico.ca...
> > > You have a u-joint in the steering column just in front of the firewall,
> > > check that.
> > >
> > This is a good one that I forgot about. You can see this when you have
> > either tire against the curb.
> >
> >
> > > Motor/tranny mounts bad can set up a harmonic shake you feel in the
> > > steering too.
> > >
> > I wouldn't have thought of this. Infact, I came close to telling him to
> > discount this. I think I see where youare coming from on this one, but
> > wouldn't the vibration be at a higher frequency than a steering anomoly?
> >
> >
> > > So can a shot rad fan clutch. When mine went bad I thought I was going
> > > to lose a tire or something it shook so bad.
> > >
> > I would have thought this would be a visible problem that could be seen at
> > idle. I'm thinking of the fan being off center or something along those
> > lines, and the fan would generate a high frequency vibration as well. I
> tend
> > to forget about what the fan can do because I haven't got a fan clutch. My
> > fan is fixed to the pulley.
> >
> >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
11-06-2003, 02:46 PM
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Re: Suspension frustration!
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> It isn't all that hard from a technical stand point, but it can be a real
> knuckle-buster.
>
> You can test the ball joints by lifting the tire(s) off the ground and
> grabbing them at the 6:00 and 12:00 position and pushing the top and
pulling
> the bottom, and vice versa. If the tire is loose, the joints are toast.
One
> of the joints (top or bottom) is the weight bearing joint, and this is the
> one that generally needs to be replaced.
>
On other vehicles I have always checked lower balljoint condition by jacking
the corner under the suspension component (lower arm) so that the weight is
normally suspended but the wheel is unweighted, then stick a lever (2x4 will
work) under the wheel and pry it up and down looking for slop. I think your
6 and 12 test will better check the upper balljoint which is tyupically not
the one that wears out first.
-Fred W
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