Superwinch = junk
09-11-2003, 11:01 PM
#261
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Re: Superwinch = junk
Joshua Nelson wrote:
> Cal Wheeler <cal@whee.ler> wrote :
>
>
>>My forehead hurts from slapping it so many times after reading your posts.
>
>
> Perhaps with a bit more slapping of it, it would knock some sense
> into it. If I could locate you in person, this is the point where I
> would be asking you to step outside and allow me to do you the favor
> of knocking it in for you.
In other words, you're losing in a game of wits, so you'll try in a
contest at the next thing you're no good at.
> Cal Wheeler <cal@whee.ler> wrote :
>
>
>>My forehead hurts from slapping it so many times after reading your posts.
>
>
> Perhaps with a bit more slapping of it, it would knock some sense
> into it. If I could locate you in person, this is the point where I
> would be asking you to step outside and allow me to do you the favor
> of knocking it in for you.
In other words, you're losing in a game of wits, so you'll try in a
contest at the next thing you're no good at.
09-12-2003, 09:52 AM
#262
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Re: Superwinch = junk
Oh, ---- you Jeff. I am not arguing with anyone who actually answers
my questions, I was only responding in kind to the moron Cal Wheeler
who has contributed ZERO intelligent answers and instead apparently
likes to make himself feel better by making fun of others. He has now
been killfiled so he is free to blather all he wants and it won't
bother me a bit.
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<vm1agk9bihb1d6@corp.supernews.com>...
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309110557.86c9ca@posting.google.com ...
> > Cal Wheeler <cal@whee.ler> wrote :
> >
> > > My forehead hurts from slapping it so many times after reading your
> posts.
> >
> > Perhaps with a bit more slapping of it, it would knock some sense
> > into it. If I could locate you in person, this is the point where I
> > would be asking you to step outside and allow me to do you the favor
> > of knocking it in for you.
> >
> > Unfortunately, since you are such a coward that you won't even post
> > your real name or email address in this forum, somehow I doubt that I
> > will have the opportunity to silence your obnoxious jibbering.
>
>
> I was willing to entertain your -------- for quite a while, but you are just
> too ------- stupid to put up with anymore.
>
> You come and ask questions from guys that have been here for years, then
> argue with the answers!
>
> You bought a winch that is too small, you need to use regular gas, disc
> brakes are superior to drum brakes, the steering wheel will wobble after
> going over bumps if the steering stabalizer is worn, or if the Caster angle
> is wrong, you need tow straps that do not have metal hooks, when winching,
> put a jacket or blanket over the cable in case the cable breaks, the roll
> cage that you got stock will not hold up well in a roll over where you roll
> over and over (it will survive a roll over where you stop rolling when the
> wheels are back on the bottom, or sooner, but the second go-around will
> usually prove to be too much), you have open differentials, so you have one
> tire on each axle that will get torque, the load limit of the trailer is
> 2000 pounds, including the trailer (it is an issue of stopping the load, not
> getting it going).
>
> I tried to remember the stupid questions you have asked already guess some
> of the stupid questions you might ask, and answer them first. Feel free to
> come up with more questions, but try to refrain from arguing with the
> answers.
my questions, I was only responding in kind to the moron Cal Wheeler
who has contributed ZERO intelligent answers and instead apparently
likes to make himself feel better by making fun of others. He has now
been killfiled so he is free to blather all he wants and it won't
bother me a bit.
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<vm1agk9bihb1d6@corp.supernews.com>...
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309110557.86c9ca@posting.google.com ...
> > Cal Wheeler <cal@whee.ler> wrote :
> >
> > > My forehead hurts from slapping it so many times after reading your
> posts.
> >
> > Perhaps with a bit more slapping of it, it would knock some sense
> > into it. If I could locate you in person, this is the point where I
> > would be asking you to step outside and allow me to do you the favor
> > of knocking it in for you.
> >
> > Unfortunately, since you are such a coward that you won't even post
> > your real name or email address in this forum, somehow I doubt that I
> > will have the opportunity to silence your obnoxious jibbering.
>
>
> I was willing to entertain your -------- for quite a while, but you are just
> too ------- stupid to put up with anymore.
>
> You come and ask questions from guys that have been here for years, then
> argue with the answers!
>
> You bought a winch that is too small, you need to use regular gas, disc
> brakes are superior to drum brakes, the steering wheel will wobble after
> going over bumps if the steering stabalizer is worn, or if the Caster angle
> is wrong, you need tow straps that do not have metal hooks, when winching,
> put a jacket or blanket over the cable in case the cable breaks, the roll
> cage that you got stock will not hold up well in a roll over where you roll
> over and over (it will survive a roll over where you stop rolling when the
> wheels are back on the bottom, or sooner, but the second go-around will
> usually prove to be too much), you have open differentials, so you have one
> tire on each axle that will get torque, the load limit of the trailer is
> 2000 pounds, including the trailer (it is an issue of stopping the load, not
> getting it going).
>
> I tried to remember the stupid questions you have asked already guess some
> of the stupid questions you might ask, and answer them first. Feel free to
> come up with more questions, but try to refrain from arguing with the
> answers.
09-12-2003, 09:52 AM
#263
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Re: Superwinch = junk
Oh, ---- you Jeff. I am not arguing with anyone who actually answers
my questions, I was only responding in kind to the moron Cal Wheeler
who has contributed ZERO intelligent answers and instead apparently
likes to make himself feel better by making fun of others. He has now
been killfiled so he is free to blather all he wants and it won't
bother me a bit.
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<vm1agk9bihb1d6@corp.supernews.com>...
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309110557.86c9ca@posting.google.com ...
> > Cal Wheeler <cal@whee.ler> wrote :
> >
> > > My forehead hurts from slapping it so many times after reading your
> posts.
> >
> > Perhaps with a bit more slapping of it, it would knock some sense
> > into it. If I could locate you in person, this is the point where I
> > would be asking you to step outside and allow me to do you the favor
> > of knocking it in for you.
> >
> > Unfortunately, since you are such a coward that you won't even post
> > your real name or email address in this forum, somehow I doubt that I
> > will have the opportunity to silence your obnoxious jibbering.
>
>
> I was willing to entertain your -------- for quite a while, but you are just
> too ------- stupid to put up with anymore.
>
> You come and ask questions from guys that have been here for years, then
> argue with the answers!
>
> You bought a winch that is too small, you need to use regular gas, disc
> brakes are superior to drum brakes, the steering wheel will wobble after
> going over bumps if the steering stabalizer is worn, or if the Caster angle
> is wrong, you need tow straps that do not have metal hooks, when winching,
> put a jacket or blanket over the cable in case the cable breaks, the roll
> cage that you got stock will not hold up well in a roll over where you roll
> over and over (it will survive a roll over where you stop rolling when the
> wheels are back on the bottom, or sooner, but the second go-around will
> usually prove to be too much), you have open differentials, so you have one
> tire on each axle that will get torque, the load limit of the trailer is
> 2000 pounds, including the trailer (it is an issue of stopping the load, not
> getting it going).
>
> I tried to remember the stupid questions you have asked already guess some
> of the stupid questions you might ask, and answer them first. Feel free to
> come up with more questions, but try to refrain from arguing with the
> answers.
my questions, I was only responding in kind to the moron Cal Wheeler
who has contributed ZERO intelligent answers and instead apparently
likes to make himself feel better by making fun of others. He has now
been killfiled so he is free to blather all he wants and it won't
bother me a bit.
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<vm1agk9bihb1d6@corp.supernews.com>...
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309110557.86c9ca@posting.google.com ...
> > Cal Wheeler <cal@whee.ler> wrote :
> >
> > > My forehead hurts from slapping it so many times after reading your
> posts.
> >
> > Perhaps with a bit more slapping of it, it would knock some sense
> > into it. If I could locate you in person, this is the point where I
> > would be asking you to step outside and allow me to do you the favor
> > of knocking it in for you.
> >
> > Unfortunately, since you are such a coward that you won't even post
> > your real name or email address in this forum, somehow I doubt that I
> > will have the opportunity to silence your obnoxious jibbering.
>
>
> I was willing to entertain your -------- for quite a while, but you are just
> too ------- stupid to put up with anymore.
>
> You come and ask questions from guys that have been here for years, then
> argue with the answers!
>
> You bought a winch that is too small, you need to use regular gas, disc
> brakes are superior to drum brakes, the steering wheel will wobble after
> going over bumps if the steering stabalizer is worn, or if the Caster angle
> is wrong, you need tow straps that do not have metal hooks, when winching,
> put a jacket or blanket over the cable in case the cable breaks, the roll
> cage that you got stock will not hold up well in a roll over where you roll
> over and over (it will survive a roll over where you stop rolling when the
> wheels are back on the bottom, or sooner, but the second go-around will
> usually prove to be too much), you have open differentials, so you have one
> tire on each axle that will get torque, the load limit of the trailer is
> 2000 pounds, including the trailer (it is an issue of stopping the load, not
> getting it going).
>
> I tried to remember the stupid questions you have asked already guess some
> of the stupid questions you might ask, and answer them first. Feel free to
> come up with more questions, but try to refrain from arguing with the
> answers.
09-12-2003, 01:19 PM
#264
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Re: Superwinch = junk
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309120552.466de5a8@posting.google.c om...
> Oh, ---- you Jeff. I am not arguing with anyone who actually answers
> my questions, I was only responding in kind to the moron Cal Wheeler
> who has contributed ZERO intelligent answers and instead apparently
> likes to make himself feel better by making fun of others. He has now
> been killfiled so he is free to blather all he wants and it won't
> bother me a bit.
>
>
That is not entirely true. You have argued with just about everybody here.
And, you have ignored responses from people that offered good information
but left the door open for you to gain even more information.
CalWheeler has been a longtime contributor here, you on the other hand ...
09-12-2003, 01:19 PM
#265
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Re: Superwinch = junk
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309120552.466de5a8@posting.google.c om...
> Oh, ---- you Jeff. I am not arguing with anyone who actually answers
> my questions, I was only responding in kind to the moron Cal Wheeler
> who has contributed ZERO intelligent answers and instead apparently
> likes to make himself feel better by making fun of others. He has now
> been killfiled so he is free to blather all he wants and it won't
> bother me a bit.
>
>
That is not entirely true. You have argued with just about everybody here.
And, you have ignored responses from people that offered good information
but left the door open for you to gain even more information.
CalWheeler has been a longtime contributor here, you on the other hand ...
09-13-2003, 07:32 AM
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Re: Superwinch = junk
On 10 Sep 2003 04:58:10 GMT, "Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote:
>On farm and oil field equipment pulls where there was any chance that
>the pull would even come close to stressing the winch/cable we always
>routed it through a spare tire. That had enough mass to not only damp
>the snake it would actually wrap the broken cable up enough to protect
>nearby equipment. Snapped cables in the oil patch were common enough
>that we all developed a healthy respect. Now for an awsome cable
>brake, look up some of the Navy videos of busted arresting cables on
>carriers...
>
I watched them film a new version of the "what happens to line handlers" video in the 80's.
Quite an impression it made on me, working with the "larger than life" equipment, and
seeing it snap so easy! Some of the comments in this thread have made me laugh,
others have made me want to jump and shout!
Use care! From what I have seen, death may be the better option than a "slight" injury.
(life size,human "consistancy" manaquins, and the distance that the parts fly are first
and foremost in my mind with a chain/cable/rope in hand, as it should be in yours)
Frank, xUSN BM2.
>On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 21:38:32 UTC "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info>
>wrote:
>
>> The point of the blanket is to apply a small downward force to the broken
>> winch cable so that it flies low and hits the front of the winching vehicle
>> as opposed to going through the windscreen and decapitating you. The rope is
>> more likely to break at the end than in the middle; and more likely to break
>> free from / pull clean off the bit the end is attached to. That said, I too
>> have doubts as to effective the blanket would be; but its easy to do and I
>> have no better ideas.
>>
>>
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>>
>> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
>> news:b102b6e4.0309091327.7853436@posting.google.co m...
>> : > Great advice. All of it. But even with a short pull, I would put
>> something
>> : > over the cable. You might be out of reach (or are you???), but why risk
>> the
>> : > damage to your rig that a snapped cable might cause.
>> : >
>> :
>> :
>> : Think about what you are saying. Winch cables are tens to hundreds of
>> : feet in length. most jackets are only a couple feet in length.
>> : Obviously they wouldn't do the job. In fact, you'd have to carry huge
>> : rolls of material just for this contingency.
>>
>>
--
Woodsy,
Off the Grid, Off the Road, Off my Rocker...
>On farm and oil field equipment pulls where there was any chance that
>the pull would even come close to stressing the winch/cable we always
>routed it through a spare tire. That had enough mass to not only damp
>the snake it would actually wrap the broken cable up enough to protect
>nearby equipment. Snapped cables in the oil patch were common enough
>that we all developed a healthy respect. Now for an awsome cable
>brake, look up some of the Navy videos of busted arresting cables on
>carriers...
>
I watched them film a new version of the "what happens to line handlers" video in the 80's.
Quite an impression it made on me, working with the "larger than life" equipment, and
seeing it snap so easy! Some of the comments in this thread have made me laugh,
others have made me want to jump and shout!
Use care! From what I have seen, death may be the better option than a "slight" injury.
(life size,human "consistancy" manaquins, and the distance that the parts fly are first
and foremost in my mind with a chain/cable/rope in hand, as it should be in yours)
Frank, xUSN BM2.
>On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 21:38:32 UTC "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info>
>wrote:
>
>> The point of the blanket is to apply a small downward force to the broken
>> winch cable so that it flies low and hits the front of the winching vehicle
>> as opposed to going through the windscreen and decapitating you. The rope is
>> more likely to break at the end than in the middle; and more likely to break
>> free from / pull clean off the bit the end is attached to. That said, I too
>> have doubts as to effective the blanket would be; but its easy to do and I
>> have no better ideas.
>>
>>
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>>
>> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
>> news:b102b6e4.0309091327.7853436@posting.google.co m...
>> : > Great advice. All of it. But even with a short pull, I would put
>> something
>> : > over the cable. You might be out of reach (or are you???), but why risk
>> the
>> : > damage to your rig that a snapped cable might cause.
>> : >
>> :
>> :
>> : Think about what you are saying. Winch cables are tens to hundreds of
>> : feet in length. most jackets are only a couple feet in length.
>> : Obviously they wouldn't do the job. In fact, you'd have to carry huge
>> : rolls of material just for this contingency.
>>
>>
--
Woodsy,
Off the Grid, Off the Road, Off my Rocker...
09-13-2003, 07:32 AM
#267
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Re: Superwinch = junk
On 10 Sep 2003 04:58:10 GMT, "Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote:
>On farm and oil field equipment pulls where there was any chance that
>the pull would even come close to stressing the winch/cable we always
>routed it through a spare tire. That had enough mass to not only damp
>the snake it would actually wrap the broken cable up enough to protect
>nearby equipment. Snapped cables in the oil patch were common enough
>that we all developed a healthy respect. Now for an awsome cable
>brake, look up some of the Navy videos of busted arresting cables on
>carriers...
>
I watched them film a new version of the "what happens to line handlers" video in the 80's.
Quite an impression it made on me, working with the "larger than life" equipment, and
seeing it snap so easy! Some of the comments in this thread have made me laugh,
others have made me want to jump and shout!
Use care! From what I have seen, death may be the better option than a "slight" injury.
(life size,human "consistancy" manaquins, and the distance that the parts fly are first
and foremost in my mind with a chain/cable/rope in hand, as it should be in yours)
Frank, xUSN BM2.
>On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 21:38:32 UTC "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info>
>wrote:
>
>> The point of the blanket is to apply a small downward force to the broken
>> winch cable so that it flies low and hits the front of the winching vehicle
>> as opposed to going through the windscreen and decapitating you. The rope is
>> more likely to break at the end than in the middle; and more likely to break
>> free from / pull clean off the bit the end is attached to. That said, I too
>> have doubts as to effective the blanket would be; but its easy to do and I
>> have no better ideas.
>>
>>
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>>
>> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
>> news:b102b6e4.0309091327.7853436@posting.google.co m...
>> : > Great advice. All of it. But even with a short pull, I would put
>> something
>> : > over the cable. You might be out of reach (or are you???), but why risk
>> the
>> : > damage to your rig that a snapped cable might cause.
>> : >
>> :
>> :
>> : Think about what you are saying. Winch cables are tens to hundreds of
>> : feet in length. most jackets are only a couple feet in length.
>> : Obviously they wouldn't do the job. In fact, you'd have to carry huge
>> : rolls of material just for this contingency.
>>
>>
--
Woodsy,
Off the Grid, Off the Road, Off my Rocker...
>On farm and oil field equipment pulls where there was any chance that
>the pull would even come close to stressing the winch/cable we always
>routed it through a spare tire. That had enough mass to not only damp
>the snake it would actually wrap the broken cable up enough to protect
>nearby equipment. Snapped cables in the oil patch were common enough
>that we all developed a healthy respect. Now for an awsome cable
>brake, look up some of the Navy videos of busted arresting cables on
>carriers...
>
I watched them film a new version of the "what happens to line handlers" video in the 80's.
Quite an impression it made on me, working with the "larger than life" equipment, and
seeing it snap so easy! Some of the comments in this thread have made me laugh,
others have made me want to jump and shout!
Use care! From what I have seen, death may be the better option than a "slight" injury.
(life size,human "consistancy" manaquins, and the distance that the parts fly are first
and foremost in my mind with a chain/cable/rope in hand, as it should be in yours)
Frank, xUSN BM2.
>On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 21:38:32 UTC "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info>
>wrote:
>
>> The point of the blanket is to apply a small downward force to the broken
>> winch cable so that it flies low and hits the front of the winching vehicle
>> as opposed to going through the windscreen and decapitating you. The rope is
>> more likely to break at the end than in the middle; and more likely to break
>> free from / pull clean off the bit the end is attached to. That said, I too
>> have doubts as to effective the blanket would be; but its easy to do and I
>> have no better ideas.
>>
>>
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>>
>> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
>> news:b102b6e4.0309091327.7853436@posting.google.co m...
>> : > Great advice. All of it. But even with a short pull, I would put
>> something
>> : > over the cable. You might be out of reach (or are you???), but why risk
>> the
>> : > damage to your rig that a snapped cable might cause.
>> : >
>> :
>> :
>> : Think about what you are saying. Winch cables are tens to hundreds of
>> : feet in length. most jackets are only a couple feet in length.
>> : Obviously they wouldn't do the job. In fact, you'd have to carry huge
>> : rolls of material just for this contingency.
>>
>>
--
Woodsy,
Off the Grid, Off the Road, Off my Rocker...
12-27-2004, 02:10 PM
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Re: Superwinch = junk
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