Stuck in 4L??
#31
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Re: Stuck in 4L??
So with a sheared pin I'd be able to shift between 4H, 4L, N and 2H but it
would really not go into 4H or 2H (it really feels like it's stuck in 4L)?
This could be as easy as replacing a pin (I wish it wasn't dark out!)
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FBFFE33.20D849A@sympatico.ca...
> That is likely right, my D300 was two hands, passenger out of the way
> and all my 200 lb on it to get the bugger out sometimes before I cleaned
> and greased the shafts with new seals to boot.
>
> If the pin sheared in one of the rods, it would be in 2 WD or anything
> low!
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
> >
> > Been a while since you put it in 4L? You didn't really wail on it to
get
> > it out of 4L the first time?
> >
> > Try this: Put the lever back into the 4L position, lock in your hubs.
> > Back up a ways (20 feet or so) and as you push the clutch in, try
pulling
> > the lever back to Neutral. You might have to do this several times
before
> > you can get it out of 4L, so do it someplace where you won't back over
> > something. Then try putting it into 2H and see if it works.
> >
> > If that doesn't work: Pull up the floor plate over the transmission --
> > the one that the shifter boots are screwed to. You may have to take out
> > your carpeting to find the screws. This should give you access to the
> > transfer case shifter linkage. The transfer case shifter lever should
> > operate two shifter rods, and they move back and forth depending on what
> > range and mode you are shifting to (I don't know if the Dana 300 case
has
> > the same wacky wiggly linkage as the Dana 20, if it does it looks like
> > some aborted tavern toy and makes no sense to the eye). The shifter
lever
> > is attached to the shifter rods by pins with carter pins holding them
in.
> > See if one hasn't wiggled out or sheared off.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> > On or about Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Joe of jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > > It shifts between the 4. The jeep moves in 4H, 4L and 2H but acts
like
> > > it's in 4L. It definately goes into N as well.
> > >
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1BQvb.1660$II1.161@news02.roc.ny...
> > > > Obviously not out of 4L. Maybe a shift linkage problem. Can you
get
> > > > it to neutral? There should be four distinct positions 4L, N, 2H,
4H
> > > > coming from front to back.
> >
> > [snip]
> > > > "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:egQvb.15422$Rk5.6771@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > Used my 85 CJ7 to pull some downed trees out of my stream. I
locked the
> > > > > hubs, put her in 4L and pulled away. No problems. I took it out
of 4L
> > > > > (very hard shift) and drove off. Now it drives like it's stuck in
4L.
> > > > > 30MPH in 5th gear. What happened? How do I fix it?
would really not go into 4H or 2H (it really feels like it's stuck in 4L)?
This could be as easy as replacing a pin (I wish it wasn't dark out!)
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FBFFE33.20D849A@sympatico.ca...
> That is likely right, my D300 was two hands, passenger out of the way
> and all my 200 lb on it to get the bugger out sometimes before I cleaned
> and greased the shafts with new seals to boot.
>
> If the pin sheared in one of the rods, it would be in 2 WD or anything
> low!
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
> >
> > Been a while since you put it in 4L? You didn't really wail on it to
get
> > it out of 4L the first time?
> >
> > Try this: Put the lever back into the 4L position, lock in your hubs.
> > Back up a ways (20 feet or so) and as you push the clutch in, try
pulling
> > the lever back to Neutral. You might have to do this several times
before
> > you can get it out of 4L, so do it someplace where you won't back over
> > something. Then try putting it into 2H and see if it works.
> >
> > If that doesn't work: Pull up the floor plate over the transmission --
> > the one that the shifter boots are screwed to. You may have to take out
> > your carpeting to find the screws. This should give you access to the
> > transfer case shifter linkage. The transfer case shifter lever should
> > operate two shifter rods, and they move back and forth depending on what
> > range and mode you are shifting to (I don't know if the Dana 300 case
has
> > the same wacky wiggly linkage as the Dana 20, if it does it looks like
> > some aborted tavern toy and makes no sense to the eye). The shifter
lever
> > is attached to the shifter rods by pins with carter pins holding them
in.
> > See if one hasn't wiggled out or sheared off.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> > On or about Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Joe of jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > > It shifts between the 4. The jeep moves in 4H, 4L and 2H but acts
like
> > > it's in 4L. It definately goes into N as well.
> > >
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1BQvb.1660$II1.161@news02.roc.ny...
> > > > Obviously not out of 4L. Maybe a shift linkage problem. Can you
get
> > > > it to neutral? There should be four distinct positions 4L, N, 2H,
4H
> > > > coming from front to back.
> >
> > [snip]
> > > > "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:egQvb.15422$Rk5.6771@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > Used my 85 CJ7 to pull some downed trees out of my stream. I
locked the
> > > > > hubs, put her in 4L and pulled away. No problems. I took it out
of 4L
> > > > > (very hard shift) and drove off. Now it drives like it's stuck in
4L.
> > > > > 30MPH in 5th gear. What happened? How do I fix it?
#32
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Posts: n/a
Re: Stuck in 4L??
I believe so. That is why you can buy twin stick kits for them, one
stick/rod handles low and high, the other handles the front, neutral,
back or all.
The single shifter is on a bar that grabs both shifter rods with a rivet
like pin held by a cotter pin in each rod.
Mike
Joe wrote:
>
> So with a sheared pin I'd be able to shift between 4H, 4L, N and 2H but it
> would really not go into 4H or 2H (it really feels like it's stuck in 4L)?
> This could be as easy as replacing a pin (I wish it wasn't dark out!)
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FBFFE33.20D849A@sympatico.ca...
> > That is likely right, my D300 was two hands, passenger out of the way
> > and all my 200 lb on it to get the bugger out sometimes before I cleaned
> > and greased the shafts with new seals to boot.
> >
> > If the pin sheared in one of the rods, it would be in 2 WD or anything
> > low!
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > >
> > > Been a while since you put it in 4L? You didn't really wail on it to
> get
> > > it out of 4L the first time?
> > >
> > > Try this: Put the lever back into the 4L position, lock in your hubs.
> > > Back up a ways (20 feet or so) and as you push the clutch in, try
> pulling
> > > the lever back to Neutral. You might have to do this several times
> before
> > > you can get it out of 4L, so do it someplace where you won't back over
> > > something. Then try putting it into 2H and see if it works.
> > >
> > > If that doesn't work: Pull up the floor plate over the transmission --
> > > the one that the shifter boots are screwed to. You may have to take out
> > > your carpeting to find the screws. This should give you access to the
> > > transfer case shifter linkage. The transfer case shifter lever should
> > > operate two shifter rods, and they move back and forth depending on what
> > > range and mode you are shifting to (I don't know if the Dana 300 case
> has
> > > the same wacky wiggly linkage as the Dana 20, if it does it looks like
> > > some aborted tavern toy and makes no sense to the eye). The shifter
> lever
> > > is attached to the shifter rods by pins with carter pins holding them
> in.
> > > See if one hasn't wiggled out or sheared off.
> > >
> > > Good luck.
> > >
> > > On or about Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Joe of jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > It shifts between the 4. The jeep moves in 4H, 4L and 2H but acts
> like
> > > > it's in 4L. It definately goes into N as well.
> > > >
> > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:1BQvb.1660$II1.161@news02.roc.ny...
> > > > > Obviously not out of 4L. Maybe a shift linkage problem. Can you
> get
> > > > > it to neutral? There should be four distinct positions 4L, N, 2H,
> 4H
> > > > > coming from front to back.
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > > > > "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:egQvb.15422$Rk5.6771@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > > Used my 85 CJ7 to pull some downed trees out of my stream. I
> locked the
> > > > > > hubs, put her in 4L and pulled away. No problems. I took it out
> of 4L
> > > > > > (very hard shift) and drove off. Now it drives like it's stuck in
> 4L.
> > > > > > 30MPH in 5th gear. What happened? How do I fix it?
stick/rod handles low and high, the other handles the front, neutral,
back or all.
The single shifter is on a bar that grabs both shifter rods with a rivet
like pin held by a cotter pin in each rod.
Mike
Joe wrote:
>
> So with a sheared pin I'd be able to shift between 4H, 4L, N and 2H but it
> would really not go into 4H or 2H (it really feels like it's stuck in 4L)?
> This could be as easy as replacing a pin (I wish it wasn't dark out!)
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FBFFE33.20D849A@sympatico.ca...
> > That is likely right, my D300 was two hands, passenger out of the way
> > and all my 200 lb on it to get the bugger out sometimes before I cleaned
> > and greased the shafts with new seals to boot.
> >
> > If the pin sheared in one of the rods, it would be in 2 WD or anything
> > low!
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > >
> > > Been a while since you put it in 4L? You didn't really wail on it to
> get
> > > it out of 4L the first time?
> > >
> > > Try this: Put the lever back into the 4L position, lock in your hubs.
> > > Back up a ways (20 feet or so) and as you push the clutch in, try
> pulling
> > > the lever back to Neutral. You might have to do this several times
> before
> > > you can get it out of 4L, so do it someplace where you won't back over
> > > something. Then try putting it into 2H and see if it works.
> > >
> > > If that doesn't work: Pull up the floor plate over the transmission --
> > > the one that the shifter boots are screwed to. You may have to take out
> > > your carpeting to find the screws. This should give you access to the
> > > transfer case shifter linkage. The transfer case shifter lever should
> > > operate two shifter rods, and they move back and forth depending on what
> > > range and mode you are shifting to (I don't know if the Dana 300 case
> has
> > > the same wacky wiggly linkage as the Dana 20, if it does it looks like
> > > some aborted tavern toy and makes no sense to the eye). The shifter
> lever
> > > is attached to the shifter rods by pins with carter pins holding them
> in.
> > > See if one hasn't wiggled out or sheared off.
> > >
> > > Good luck.
> > >
> > > On or about Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Joe of jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > It shifts between the 4. The jeep moves in 4H, 4L and 2H but acts
> like
> > > > it's in 4L. It definately goes into N as well.
> > > >
> > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:1BQvb.1660$II1.161@news02.roc.ny...
> > > > > Obviously not out of 4L. Maybe a shift linkage problem. Can you
> get
> > > > > it to neutral? There should be four distinct positions 4L, N, 2H,
> 4H
> > > > > coming from front to back.
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > > > > "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:egQvb.15422$Rk5.6771@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > > Used my 85 CJ7 to pull some downed trees out of my stream. I
> locked the
> > > > > > hubs, put her in 4L and pulled away. No problems. I took it out
> of 4L
> > > > > > (very hard shift) and drove off. Now it drives like it's stuck in
> 4L.
> > > > > > 30MPH in 5th gear. What happened? How do I fix it?
#33
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Stuck in 4L??
I believe so. That is why you can buy twin stick kits for them, one
stick/rod handles low and high, the other handles the front, neutral,
back or all.
The single shifter is on a bar that grabs both shifter rods with a rivet
like pin held by a cotter pin in each rod.
Mike
Joe wrote:
>
> So with a sheared pin I'd be able to shift between 4H, 4L, N and 2H but it
> would really not go into 4H or 2H (it really feels like it's stuck in 4L)?
> This could be as easy as replacing a pin (I wish it wasn't dark out!)
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FBFFE33.20D849A@sympatico.ca...
> > That is likely right, my D300 was two hands, passenger out of the way
> > and all my 200 lb on it to get the bugger out sometimes before I cleaned
> > and greased the shafts with new seals to boot.
> >
> > If the pin sheared in one of the rods, it would be in 2 WD or anything
> > low!
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > >
> > > Been a while since you put it in 4L? You didn't really wail on it to
> get
> > > it out of 4L the first time?
> > >
> > > Try this: Put the lever back into the 4L position, lock in your hubs.
> > > Back up a ways (20 feet or so) and as you push the clutch in, try
> pulling
> > > the lever back to Neutral. You might have to do this several times
> before
> > > you can get it out of 4L, so do it someplace where you won't back over
> > > something. Then try putting it into 2H and see if it works.
> > >
> > > If that doesn't work: Pull up the floor plate over the transmission --
> > > the one that the shifter boots are screwed to. You may have to take out
> > > your carpeting to find the screws. This should give you access to the
> > > transfer case shifter linkage. The transfer case shifter lever should
> > > operate two shifter rods, and they move back and forth depending on what
> > > range and mode you are shifting to (I don't know if the Dana 300 case
> has
> > > the same wacky wiggly linkage as the Dana 20, if it does it looks like
> > > some aborted tavern toy and makes no sense to the eye). The shifter
> lever
> > > is attached to the shifter rods by pins with carter pins holding them
> in.
> > > See if one hasn't wiggled out or sheared off.
> > >
> > > Good luck.
> > >
> > > On or about Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Joe of jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > It shifts between the 4. The jeep moves in 4H, 4L and 2H but acts
> like
> > > > it's in 4L. It definately goes into N as well.
> > > >
> > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:1BQvb.1660$II1.161@news02.roc.ny...
> > > > > Obviously not out of 4L. Maybe a shift linkage problem. Can you
> get
> > > > > it to neutral? There should be four distinct positions 4L, N, 2H,
> 4H
> > > > > coming from front to back.
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > > > > "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:egQvb.15422$Rk5.6771@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > > Used my 85 CJ7 to pull some downed trees out of my stream. I
> locked the
> > > > > > hubs, put her in 4L and pulled away. No problems. I took it out
> of 4L
> > > > > > (very hard shift) and drove off. Now it drives like it's stuck in
> 4L.
> > > > > > 30MPH in 5th gear. What happened? How do I fix it?
stick/rod handles low and high, the other handles the front, neutral,
back or all.
The single shifter is on a bar that grabs both shifter rods with a rivet
like pin held by a cotter pin in each rod.
Mike
Joe wrote:
>
> So with a sheared pin I'd be able to shift between 4H, 4L, N and 2H but it
> would really not go into 4H or 2H (it really feels like it's stuck in 4L)?
> This could be as easy as replacing a pin (I wish it wasn't dark out!)
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FBFFE33.20D849A@sympatico.ca...
> > That is likely right, my D300 was two hands, passenger out of the way
> > and all my 200 lb on it to get the bugger out sometimes before I cleaned
> > and greased the shafts with new seals to boot.
> >
> > If the pin sheared in one of the rods, it would be in 2 WD or anything
> > low!
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > >
> > > Been a while since you put it in 4L? You didn't really wail on it to
> get
> > > it out of 4L the first time?
> > >
> > > Try this: Put the lever back into the 4L position, lock in your hubs.
> > > Back up a ways (20 feet or so) and as you push the clutch in, try
> pulling
> > > the lever back to Neutral. You might have to do this several times
> before
> > > you can get it out of 4L, so do it someplace where you won't back over
> > > something. Then try putting it into 2H and see if it works.
> > >
> > > If that doesn't work: Pull up the floor plate over the transmission --
> > > the one that the shifter boots are screwed to. You may have to take out
> > > your carpeting to find the screws. This should give you access to the
> > > transfer case shifter linkage. The transfer case shifter lever should
> > > operate two shifter rods, and they move back and forth depending on what
> > > range and mode you are shifting to (I don't know if the Dana 300 case
> has
> > > the same wacky wiggly linkage as the Dana 20, if it does it looks like
> > > some aborted tavern toy and makes no sense to the eye). The shifter
> lever
> > > is attached to the shifter rods by pins with carter pins holding them
> in.
> > > See if one hasn't wiggled out or sheared off.
> > >
> > > Good luck.
> > >
> > > On or about Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Joe of jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > It shifts between the 4. The jeep moves in 4H, 4L and 2H but acts
> like
> > > > it's in 4L. It definately goes into N as well.
> > > >
> > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:1BQvb.1660$II1.161@news02.roc.ny...
> > > > > Obviously not out of 4L. Maybe a shift linkage problem. Can you
> get
> > > > > it to neutral? There should be four distinct positions 4L, N, 2H,
> 4H
> > > > > coming from front to back.
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > > > > "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:egQvb.15422$Rk5.6771@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > > Used my 85 CJ7 to pull some downed trees out of my stream. I
> locked the
> > > > > > hubs, put her in 4L and pulled away. No problems. I took it out
> of 4L
> > > > > > (very hard shift) and drove off. Now it drives like it's stuck in
> 4L.
> > > > > > 30MPH in 5th gear. What happened? How do I fix it?
#34
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Stuck in 4L??
I believe so. That is why you can buy twin stick kits for them, one
stick/rod handles low and high, the other handles the front, neutral,
back or all.
The single shifter is on a bar that grabs both shifter rods with a rivet
like pin held by a cotter pin in each rod.
Mike
Joe wrote:
>
> So with a sheared pin I'd be able to shift between 4H, 4L, N and 2H but it
> would really not go into 4H or 2H (it really feels like it's stuck in 4L)?
> This could be as easy as replacing a pin (I wish it wasn't dark out!)
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FBFFE33.20D849A@sympatico.ca...
> > That is likely right, my D300 was two hands, passenger out of the way
> > and all my 200 lb on it to get the bugger out sometimes before I cleaned
> > and greased the shafts with new seals to boot.
> >
> > If the pin sheared in one of the rods, it would be in 2 WD or anything
> > low!
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > >
> > > Been a while since you put it in 4L? You didn't really wail on it to
> get
> > > it out of 4L the first time?
> > >
> > > Try this: Put the lever back into the 4L position, lock in your hubs.
> > > Back up a ways (20 feet or so) and as you push the clutch in, try
> pulling
> > > the lever back to Neutral. You might have to do this several times
> before
> > > you can get it out of 4L, so do it someplace where you won't back over
> > > something. Then try putting it into 2H and see if it works.
> > >
> > > If that doesn't work: Pull up the floor plate over the transmission --
> > > the one that the shifter boots are screwed to. You may have to take out
> > > your carpeting to find the screws. This should give you access to the
> > > transfer case shifter linkage. The transfer case shifter lever should
> > > operate two shifter rods, and they move back and forth depending on what
> > > range and mode you are shifting to (I don't know if the Dana 300 case
> has
> > > the same wacky wiggly linkage as the Dana 20, if it does it looks like
> > > some aborted tavern toy and makes no sense to the eye). The shifter
> lever
> > > is attached to the shifter rods by pins with carter pins holding them
> in.
> > > See if one hasn't wiggled out or sheared off.
> > >
> > > Good luck.
> > >
> > > On or about Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Joe of jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > It shifts between the 4. The jeep moves in 4H, 4L and 2H but acts
> like
> > > > it's in 4L. It definately goes into N as well.
> > > >
> > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:1BQvb.1660$II1.161@news02.roc.ny...
> > > > > Obviously not out of 4L. Maybe a shift linkage problem. Can you
> get
> > > > > it to neutral? There should be four distinct positions 4L, N, 2H,
> 4H
> > > > > coming from front to back.
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > > > > "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:egQvb.15422$Rk5.6771@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > > Used my 85 CJ7 to pull some downed trees out of my stream. I
> locked the
> > > > > > hubs, put her in 4L and pulled away. No problems. I took it out
> of 4L
> > > > > > (very hard shift) and drove off. Now it drives like it's stuck in
> 4L.
> > > > > > 30MPH in 5th gear. What happened? How do I fix it?
stick/rod handles low and high, the other handles the front, neutral,
back or all.
The single shifter is on a bar that grabs both shifter rods with a rivet
like pin held by a cotter pin in each rod.
Mike
Joe wrote:
>
> So with a sheared pin I'd be able to shift between 4H, 4L, N and 2H but it
> would really not go into 4H or 2H (it really feels like it's stuck in 4L)?
> This could be as easy as replacing a pin (I wish it wasn't dark out!)
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FBFFE33.20D849A@sympatico.ca...
> > That is likely right, my D300 was two hands, passenger out of the way
> > and all my 200 lb on it to get the bugger out sometimes before I cleaned
> > and greased the shafts with new seals to boot.
> >
> > If the pin sheared in one of the rods, it would be in 2 WD or anything
> > low!
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > >
> > > Been a while since you put it in 4L? You didn't really wail on it to
> get
> > > it out of 4L the first time?
> > >
> > > Try this: Put the lever back into the 4L position, lock in your hubs.
> > > Back up a ways (20 feet or so) and as you push the clutch in, try
> pulling
> > > the lever back to Neutral. You might have to do this several times
> before
> > > you can get it out of 4L, so do it someplace where you won't back over
> > > something. Then try putting it into 2H and see if it works.
> > >
> > > If that doesn't work: Pull up the floor plate over the transmission --
> > > the one that the shifter boots are screwed to. You may have to take out
> > > your carpeting to find the screws. This should give you access to the
> > > transfer case shifter linkage. The transfer case shifter lever should
> > > operate two shifter rods, and they move back and forth depending on what
> > > range and mode you are shifting to (I don't know if the Dana 300 case
> has
> > > the same wacky wiggly linkage as the Dana 20, if it does it looks like
> > > some aborted tavern toy and makes no sense to the eye). The shifter
> lever
> > > is attached to the shifter rods by pins with carter pins holding them
> in.
> > > See if one hasn't wiggled out or sheared off.
> > >
> > > Good luck.
> > >
> > > On or about Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Joe of jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > It shifts between the 4. The jeep moves in 4H, 4L and 2H but acts
> like
> > > > it's in 4L. It definately goes into N as well.
> > > >
> > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:1BQvb.1660$II1.161@news02.roc.ny...
> > > > > Obviously not out of 4L. Maybe a shift linkage problem. Can you
> get
> > > > > it to neutral? There should be four distinct positions 4L, N, 2H,
> 4H
> > > > > coming from front to back.
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > > > > "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:egQvb.15422$Rk5.6771@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > > Used my 85 CJ7 to pull some downed trees out of my stream. I
> locked the
> > > > > > hubs, put her in 4L and pulled away. No problems. I took it out
> of 4L
> > > > > > (very hard shift) and drove off. Now it drives like it's stuck in
> 4L.
> > > > > > 30MPH in 5th gear. What happened? How do I fix it?
#35
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Stuck in 4L??
I'll sleep easier now. I'll check it out tomorrow and post results.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FC0075D.F2C180FC@sympatico.ca...
> I believe so. That is why you can buy twin stick kits for them, one
> stick/rod handles low and high, the other handles the front, neutral,
> back or all.
>
> The single shifter is on a bar that grabs both shifter rods with a rivet
> like pin held by a cotter pin in each rod.
>
> Mike
>
> Joe wrote:
> >
> > So with a sheared pin I'd be able to shift between 4H, 4L, N and 2H but
it
> > would really not go into 4H or 2H (it really feels like it's stuck in
4L)?
> > This could be as easy as replacing a pin (I wish it wasn't dark out!)
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FBFFE33.20D849A@sympatico.ca...
> > > That is likely right, my D300 was two hands, passenger out of the way
> > > and all my 200 lb on it to get the bugger out sometimes before I
cleaned
> > > and greased the shafts with new seals to boot.
> > >
> > > If the pin sheared in one of the rods, it would be in 2 WD or anything
> > > low!
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Been a while since you put it in 4L? You didn't really wail on it
to
> > get
> > > > it out of 4L the first time?
> > > >
> > > > Try this: Put the lever back into the 4L position, lock in your
hubs.
> > > > Back up a ways (20 feet or so) and as you push the clutch in, try
> > pulling
> > > > the lever back to Neutral. You might have to do this several times
> > before
> > > > you can get it out of 4L, so do it someplace where you won't back
over
> > > > something. Then try putting it into 2H and see if it works.
> > > >
> > > > If that doesn't work: Pull up the floor plate over the
transmission --
> > > > the one that the shifter boots are screwed to. You may have to take
out
> > > > your carpeting to find the screws. This should give you access to
the
> > > > transfer case shifter linkage. The transfer case shifter lever
should
> > > > operate two shifter rods, and they move back and forth depending on
what
> > > > range and mode you are shifting to (I don't know if the Dana 300
case
> > has
> > > > the same wacky wiggly linkage as the Dana 20, if it does it looks
like
> > > > some aborted tavern toy and makes no sense to the eye). The shifter
> > lever
> > > > is attached to the shifter rods by pins with carter pins holding
them
> > in.
> > > > See if one hasn't wiggled out or sheared off.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck.
> > > >
> > > > On or about Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Joe of jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It shifts between the 4. The jeep moves in 4H, 4L and 2H but acts
> > like
> > > > > it's in 4L. It definately goes into N as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:1BQvb.1660$II1.161@news02.roc.ny...
> > > > > > Obviously not out of 4L. Maybe a shift linkage problem. Can
you
> > get
> > > > > > it to neutral? There should be four distinct positions 4L, N,
2H,
> > 4H
> > > > > > coming from front to back.
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > > > > "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:egQvb.15422$Rk5.6771@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > > > Used my 85 CJ7 to pull some downed trees out of my stream. I
> > locked the
> > > > > > > hubs, put her in 4L and pulled away. No problems. I took it
out
> > of 4L
> > > > > > > (very hard shift) and drove off. Now it drives like it's
stuck in
> > 4L.
> > > > > > > 30MPH in 5th gear. What happened? How do I fix it?
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FC0075D.F2C180FC@sympatico.ca...
> I believe so. That is why you can buy twin stick kits for them, one
> stick/rod handles low and high, the other handles the front, neutral,
> back or all.
>
> The single shifter is on a bar that grabs both shifter rods with a rivet
> like pin held by a cotter pin in each rod.
>
> Mike
>
> Joe wrote:
> >
> > So with a sheared pin I'd be able to shift between 4H, 4L, N and 2H but
it
> > would really not go into 4H or 2H (it really feels like it's stuck in
4L)?
> > This could be as easy as replacing a pin (I wish it wasn't dark out!)
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FBFFE33.20D849A@sympatico.ca...
> > > That is likely right, my D300 was two hands, passenger out of the way
> > > and all my 200 lb on it to get the bugger out sometimes before I
cleaned
> > > and greased the shafts with new seals to boot.
> > >
> > > If the pin sheared in one of the rods, it would be in 2 WD or anything
> > > low!
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Been a while since you put it in 4L? You didn't really wail on it
to
> > get
> > > > it out of 4L the first time?
> > > >
> > > > Try this: Put the lever back into the 4L position, lock in your
hubs.
> > > > Back up a ways (20 feet or so) and as you push the clutch in, try
> > pulling
> > > > the lever back to Neutral. You might have to do this several times
> > before
> > > > you can get it out of 4L, so do it someplace where you won't back
over
> > > > something. Then try putting it into 2H and see if it works.
> > > >
> > > > If that doesn't work: Pull up the floor plate over the
transmission --
> > > > the one that the shifter boots are screwed to. You may have to take
out
> > > > your carpeting to find the screws. This should give you access to
the
> > > > transfer case shifter linkage. The transfer case shifter lever
should
> > > > operate two shifter rods, and they move back and forth depending on
what
> > > > range and mode you are shifting to (I don't know if the Dana 300
case
> > has
> > > > the same wacky wiggly linkage as the Dana 20, if it does it looks
like
> > > > some aborted tavern toy and makes no sense to the eye). The shifter
> > lever
> > > > is attached to the shifter rods by pins with carter pins holding
them
> > in.
> > > > See if one hasn't wiggled out or sheared off.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck.
> > > >
> > > > On or about Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Joe of jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It shifts between the 4. The jeep moves in 4H, 4L and 2H but acts
> > like
> > > > > it's in 4L. It definately goes into N as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:1BQvb.1660$II1.161@news02.roc.ny...
> > > > > > Obviously not out of 4L. Maybe a shift linkage problem. Can
you
> > get
> > > > > > it to neutral? There should be four distinct positions 4L, N,
2H,
> > 4H
> > > > > > coming from front to back.
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > > > > "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:egQvb.15422$Rk5.6771@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > > > Used my 85 CJ7 to pull some downed trees out of my stream. I
> > locked the
> > > > > > > hubs, put her in 4L and pulled away. No problems. I took it
out
> > of 4L
> > > > > > > (very hard shift) and drove off. Now it drives like it's
stuck in
> > 4L.
> > > > > > > 30MPH in 5th gear. What happened? How do I fix it?
#36
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Stuck in 4L??
I'll sleep easier now. I'll check it out tomorrow and post results.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FC0075D.F2C180FC@sympatico.ca...
> I believe so. That is why you can buy twin stick kits for them, one
> stick/rod handles low and high, the other handles the front, neutral,
> back or all.
>
> The single shifter is on a bar that grabs both shifter rods with a rivet
> like pin held by a cotter pin in each rod.
>
> Mike
>
> Joe wrote:
> >
> > So with a sheared pin I'd be able to shift between 4H, 4L, N and 2H but
it
> > would really not go into 4H or 2H (it really feels like it's stuck in
4L)?
> > This could be as easy as replacing a pin (I wish it wasn't dark out!)
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FBFFE33.20D849A@sympatico.ca...
> > > That is likely right, my D300 was two hands, passenger out of the way
> > > and all my 200 lb on it to get the bugger out sometimes before I
cleaned
> > > and greased the shafts with new seals to boot.
> > >
> > > If the pin sheared in one of the rods, it would be in 2 WD or anything
> > > low!
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Been a while since you put it in 4L? You didn't really wail on it
to
> > get
> > > > it out of 4L the first time?
> > > >
> > > > Try this: Put the lever back into the 4L position, lock in your
hubs.
> > > > Back up a ways (20 feet or so) and as you push the clutch in, try
> > pulling
> > > > the lever back to Neutral. You might have to do this several times
> > before
> > > > you can get it out of 4L, so do it someplace where you won't back
over
> > > > something. Then try putting it into 2H and see if it works.
> > > >
> > > > If that doesn't work: Pull up the floor plate over the
transmission --
> > > > the one that the shifter boots are screwed to. You may have to take
out
> > > > your carpeting to find the screws. This should give you access to
the
> > > > transfer case shifter linkage. The transfer case shifter lever
should
> > > > operate two shifter rods, and they move back and forth depending on
what
> > > > range and mode you are shifting to (I don't know if the Dana 300
case
> > has
> > > > the same wacky wiggly linkage as the Dana 20, if it does it looks
like
> > > > some aborted tavern toy and makes no sense to the eye). The shifter
> > lever
> > > > is attached to the shifter rods by pins with carter pins holding
them
> > in.
> > > > See if one hasn't wiggled out or sheared off.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck.
> > > >
> > > > On or about Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Joe of jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It shifts between the 4. The jeep moves in 4H, 4L and 2H but acts
> > like
> > > > > it's in 4L. It definately goes into N as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:1BQvb.1660$II1.161@news02.roc.ny...
> > > > > > Obviously not out of 4L. Maybe a shift linkage problem. Can
you
> > get
> > > > > > it to neutral? There should be four distinct positions 4L, N,
2H,
> > 4H
> > > > > > coming from front to back.
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > > > > "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:egQvb.15422$Rk5.6771@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > > > Used my 85 CJ7 to pull some downed trees out of my stream. I
> > locked the
> > > > > > > hubs, put her in 4L and pulled away. No problems. I took it
out
> > of 4L
> > > > > > > (very hard shift) and drove off. Now it drives like it's
stuck in
> > 4L.
> > > > > > > 30MPH in 5th gear. What happened? How do I fix it?
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FC0075D.F2C180FC@sympatico.ca...
> I believe so. That is why you can buy twin stick kits for them, one
> stick/rod handles low and high, the other handles the front, neutral,
> back or all.
>
> The single shifter is on a bar that grabs both shifter rods with a rivet
> like pin held by a cotter pin in each rod.
>
> Mike
>
> Joe wrote:
> >
> > So with a sheared pin I'd be able to shift between 4H, 4L, N and 2H but
it
> > would really not go into 4H or 2H (it really feels like it's stuck in
4L)?
> > This could be as easy as replacing a pin (I wish it wasn't dark out!)
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FBFFE33.20D849A@sympatico.ca...
> > > That is likely right, my D300 was two hands, passenger out of the way
> > > and all my 200 lb on it to get the bugger out sometimes before I
cleaned
> > > and greased the shafts with new seals to boot.
> > >
> > > If the pin sheared in one of the rods, it would be in 2 WD or anything
> > > low!
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Been a while since you put it in 4L? You didn't really wail on it
to
> > get
> > > > it out of 4L the first time?
> > > >
> > > > Try this: Put the lever back into the 4L position, lock in your
hubs.
> > > > Back up a ways (20 feet or so) and as you push the clutch in, try
> > pulling
> > > > the lever back to Neutral. You might have to do this several times
> > before
> > > > you can get it out of 4L, so do it someplace where you won't back
over
> > > > something. Then try putting it into 2H and see if it works.
> > > >
> > > > If that doesn't work: Pull up the floor plate over the
transmission --
> > > > the one that the shifter boots are screwed to. You may have to take
out
> > > > your carpeting to find the screws. This should give you access to
the
> > > > transfer case shifter linkage. The transfer case shifter lever
should
> > > > operate two shifter rods, and they move back and forth depending on
what
> > > > range and mode you are shifting to (I don't know if the Dana 300
case
> > has
> > > > the same wacky wiggly linkage as the Dana 20, if it does it looks
like
> > > > some aborted tavern toy and makes no sense to the eye). The shifter
> > lever
> > > > is attached to the shifter rods by pins with carter pins holding
them
> > in.
> > > > See if one hasn't wiggled out or sheared off.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck.
> > > >
> > > > On or about Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Joe of jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It shifts between the 4. The jeep moves in 4H, 4L and 2H but acts
> > like
> > > > > it's in 4L. It definately goes into N as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:1BQvb.1660$II1.161@news02.roc.ny...
> > > > > > Obviously not out of 4L. Maybe a shift linkage problem. Can
you
> > get
> > > > > > it to neutral? There should be four distinct positions 4L, N,
2H,
> > 4H
> > > > > > coming from front to back.
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > > > > "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:egQvb.15422$Rk5.6771@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > > > Used my 85 CJ7 to pull some downed trees out of my stream. I
> > locked the
> > > > > > > hubs, put her in 4L and pulled away. No problems. I took it
out
> > of 4L
> > > > > > > (very hard shift) and drove off. Now it drives like it's
stuck in
> > 4L.
> > > > > > > 30MPH in 5th gear. What happened? How do I fix it?
#37
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Stuck in 4L??
I'll sleep easier now. I'll check it out tomorrow and post results.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FC0075D.F2C180FC@sympatico.ca...
> I believe so. That is why you can buy twin stick kits for them, one
> stick/rod handles low and high, the other handles the front, neutral,
> back or all.
>
> The single shifter is on a bar that grabs both shifter rods with a rivet
> like pin held by a cotter pin in each rod.
>
> Mike
>
> Joe wrote:
> >
> > So with a sheared pin I'd be able to shift between 4H, 4L, N and 2H but
it
> > would really not go into 4H or 2H (it really feels like it's stuck in
4L)?
> > This could be as easy as replacing a pin (I wish it wasn't dark out!)
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FBFFE33.20D849A@sympatico.ca...
> > > That is likely right, my D300 was two hands, passenger out of the way
> > > and all my 200 lb on it to get the bugger out sometimes before I
cleaned
> > > and greased the shafts with new seals to boot.
> > >
> > > If the pin sheared in one of the rods, it would be in 2 WD or anything
> > > low!
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Been a while since you put it in 4L? You didn't really wail on it
to
> > get
> > > > it out of 4L the first time?
> > > >
> > > > Try this: Put the lever back into the 4L position, lock in your
hubs.
> > > > Back up a ways (20 feet or so) and as you push the clutch in, try
> > pulling
> > > > the lever back to Neutral. You might have to do this several times
> > before
> > > > you can get it out of 4L, so do it someplace where you won't back
over
> > > > something. Then try putting it into 2H and see if it works.
> > > >
> > > > If that doesn't work: Pull up the floor plate over the
transmission --
> > > > the one that the shifter boots are screwed to. You may have to take
out
> > > > your carpeting to find the screws. This should give you access to
the
> > > > transfer case shifter linkage. The transfer case shifter lever
should
> > > > operate two shifter rods, and they move back and forth depending on
what
> > > > range and mode you are shifting to (I don't know if the Dana 300
case
> > has
> > > > the same wacky wiggly linkage as the Dana 20, if it does it looks
like
> > > > some aborted tavern toy and makes no sense to the eye). The shifter
> > lever
> > > > is attached to the shifter rods by pins with carter pins holding
them
> > in.
> > > > See if one hasn't wiggled out or sheared off.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck.
> > > >
> > > > On or about Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Joe of jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It shifts between the 4. The jeep moves in 4H, 4L and 2H but acts
> > like
> > > > > it's in 4L. It definately goes into N as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:1BQvb.1660$II1.161@news02.roc.ny...
> > > > > > Obviously not out of 4L. Maybe a shift linkage problem. Can
you
> > get
> > > > > > it to neutral? There should be four distinct positions 4L, N,
2H,
> > 4H
> > > > > > coming from front to back.
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > > > > "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:egQvb.15422$Rk5.6771@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > > > Used my 85 CJ7 to pull some downed trees out of my stream. I
> > locked the
> > > > > > > hubs, put her in 4L and pulled away. No problems. I took it
out
> > of 4L
> > > > > > > (very hard shift) and drove off. Now it drives like it's
stuck in
> > 4L.
> > > > > > > 30MPH in 5th gear. What happened? How do I fix it?
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FC0075D.F2C180FC@sympatico.ca...
> I believe so. That is why you can buy twin stick kits for them, one
> stick/rod handles low and high, the other handles the front, neutral,
> back or all.
>
> The single shifter is on a bar that grabs both shifter rods with a rivet
> like pin held by a cotter pin in each rod.
>
> Mike
>
> Joe wrote:
> >
> > So with a sheared pin I'd be able to shift between 4H, 4L, N and 2H but
it
> > would really not go into 4H or 2H (it really feels like it's stuck in
4L)?
> > This could be as easy as replacing a pin (I wish it wasn't dark out!)
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FBFFE33.20D849A@sympatico.ca...
> > > That is likely right, my D300 was two hands, passenger out of the way
> > > and all my 200 lb on it to get the bugger out sometimes before I
cleaned
> > > and greased the shafts with new seals to boot.
> > >
> > > If the pin sheared in one of the rods, it would be in 2 WD or anything
> > > low!
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Been a while since you put it in 4L? You didn't really wail on it
to
> > get
> > > > it out of 4L the first time?
> > > >
> > > > Try this: Put the lever back into the 4L position, lock in your
hubs.
> > > > Back up a ways (20 feet or so) and as you push the clutch in, try
> > pulling
> > > > the lever back to Neutral. You might have to do this several times
> > before
> > > > you can get it out of 4L, so do it someplace where you won't back
over
> > > > something. Then try putting it into 2H and see if it works.
> > > >
> > > > If that doesn't work: Pull up the floor plate over the
transmission --
> > > > the one that the shifter boots are screwed to. You may have to take
out
> > > > your carpeting to find the screws. This should give you access to
the
> > > > transfer case shifter linkage. The transfer case shifter lever
should
> > > > operate two shifter rods, and they move back and forth depending on
what
> > > > range and mode you are shifting to (I don't know if the Dana 300
case
> > has
> > > > the same wacky wiggly linkage as the Dana 20, if it does it looks
like
> > > > some aborted tavern toy and makes no sense to the eye). The shifter
> > lever
> > > > is attached to the shifter rods by pins with carter pins holding
them
> > in.
> > > > See if one hasn't wiggled out or sheared off.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck.
> > > >
> > > > On or about Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Joe of jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It shifts between the 4. The jeep moves in 4H, 4L and 2H but acts
> > like
> > > > > it's in 4L. It definately goes into N as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:1BQvb.1660$II1.161@news02.roc.ny...
> > > > > > Obviously not out of 4L. Maybe a shift linkage problem. Can
you
> > get
> > > > > > it to neutral? There should be four distinct positions 4L, N,
2H,
> > 4H
> > > > > > coming from front to back.
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > > > > "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:egQvb.15422$Rk5.6771@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > > > Used my 85 CJ7 to pull some downed trees out of my stream. I
> > locked the
> > > > > > > hubs, put her in 4L and pulled away. No problems. I took it
out
> > of 4L
> > > > > > > (very hard shift) and drove off. Now it drives like it's
stuck in
> > 4L.
> > > > > > > 30MPH in 5th gear. What happened? How do I fix it?
#38
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Stuck in 4L??
I saw something online that showed how this kit is installed. Does anyone
have that link?
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FC0075D.F2C180FC@sympatico.ca...
> I believe so. That is why you can buy twin stick kits for them, one
> stick/rod handles low and high, the other handles the front, neutral,
> back or all.
>
> The single shifter is on a bar that grabs both shifter rods with a rivet
> like pin held by a cotter pin in each rod.
>
> Mike
>
> Joe wrote:
> >
> > So with a sheared pin I'd be able to shift between 4H, 4L, N and 2H but
it
> > would really not go into 4H or 2H (it really feels like it's stuck in
4L)?
> > This could be as easy as replacing a pin (I wish it wasn't dark out!)
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FBFFE33.20D849A@sympatico.ca...
> > > That is likely right, my D300 was two hands, passenger out of the way
> > > and all my 200 lb on it to get the bugger out sometimes before I
cleaned
> > > and greased the shafts with new seals to boot.
> > >
> > > If the pin sheared in one of the rods, it would be in 2 WD or anything
> > > low!
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Been a while since you put it in 4L? You didn't really wail on it
to
> > get
> > > > it out of 4L the first time?
> > > >
> > > > Try this: Put the lever back into the 4L position, lock in your
hubs.
> > > > Back up a ways (20 feet or so) and as you push the clutch in, try
> > pulling
> > > > the lever back to Neutral. You might have to do this several times
> > before
> > > > you can get it out of 4L, so do it someplace where you won't back
over
> > > > something. Then try putting it into 2H and see if it works.
> > > >
> > > > If that doesn't work: Pull up the floor plate over the
transmission --
> > > > the one that the shifter boots are screwed to. You may have to take
out
> > > > your carpeting to find the screws. This should give you access to
the
> > > > transfer case shifter linkage. The transfer case shifter lever
should
> > > > operate two shifter rods, and they move back and forth depending on
what
> > > > range and mode you are shifting to (I don't know if the Dana 300
case
> > has
> > > > the same wacky wiggly linkage as the Dana 20, if it does it looks
like
> > > > some aborted tavern toy and makes no sense to the eye). The shifter
> > lever
> > > > is attached to the shifter rods by pins with carter pins holding
them
> > in.
> > > > See if one hasn't wiggled out or sheared off.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck.
> > > >
> > > > On or about Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Joe of jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It shifts between the 4. The jeep moves in 4H, 4L and 2H but acts
> > like
> > > > > it's in 4L. It definately goes into N as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:1BQvb.1660$II1.161@news02.roc.ny...
> > > > > > Obviously not out of 4L. Maybe a shift linkage problem. Can
you
> > get
> > > > > > it to neutral? There should be four distinct positions 4L, N,
2H,
> > 4H
> > > > > > coming from front to back.
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > > > > "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:egQvb.15422$Rk5.6771@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > > > Used my 85 CJ7 to pull some downed trees out of my stream. I
> > locked the
> > > > > > > hubs, put her in 4L and pulled away. No problems. I took it
out
> > of 4L
> > > > > > > (very hard shift) and drove off. Now it drives like it's
stuck in
> > 4L.
> > > > > > > 30MPH in 5th gear. What happened? How do I fix it?
have that link?
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FC0075D.F2C180FC@sympatico.ca...
> I believe so. That is why you can buy twin stick kits for them, one
> stick/rod handles low and high, the other handles the front, neutral,
> back or all.
>
> The single shifter is on a bar that grabs both shifter rods with a rivet
> like pin held by a cotter pin in each rod.
>
> Mike
>
> Joe wrote:
> >
> > So with a sheared pin I'd be able to shift between 4H, 4L, N and 2H but
it
> > would really not go into 4H or 2H (it really feels like it's stuck in
4L)?
> > This could be as easy as replacing a pin (I wish it wasn't dark out!)
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FBFFE33.20D849A@sympatico.ca...
> > > That is likely right, my D300 was two hands, passenger out of the way
> > > and all my 200 lb on it to get the bugger out sometimes before I
cleaned
> > > and greased the shafts with new seals to boot.
> > >
> > > If the pin sheared in one of the rods, it would be in 2 WD or anything
> > > low!
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Been a while since you put it in 4L? You didn't really wail on it
to
> > get
> > > > it out of 4L the first time?
> > > >
> > > > Try this: Put the lever back into the 4L position, lock in your
hubs.
> > > > Back up a ways (20 feet or so) and as you push the clutch in, try
> > pulling
> > > > the lever back to Neutral. You might have to do this several times
> > before
> > > > you can get it out of 4L, so do it someplace where you won't back
over
> > > > something. Then try putting it into 2H and see if it works.
> > > >
> > > > If that doesn't work: Pull up the floor plate over the
transmission --
> > > > the one that the shifter boots are screwed to. You may have to take
out
> > > > your carpeting to find the screws. This should give you access to
the
> > > > transfer case shifter linkage. The transfer case shifter lever
should
> > > > operate two shifter rods, and they move back and forth depending on
what
> > > > range and mode you are shifting to (I don't know if the Dana 300
case
> > has
> > > > the same wacky wiggly linkage as the Dana 20, if it does it looks
like
> > > > some aborted tavern toy and makes no sense to the eye). The shifter
> > lever
> > > > is attached to the shifter rods by pins with carter pins holding
them
> > in.
> > > > See if one hasn't wiggled out or sheared off.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck.
> > > >
> > > > On or about Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Joe of jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It shifts between the 4. The jeep moves in 4H, 4L and 2H but acts
> > like
> > > > > it's in 4L. It definately goes into N as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:1BQvb.1660$II1.161@news02.roc.ny...
> > > > > > Obviously not out of 4L. Maybe a shift linkage problem. Can
you
> > get
> > > > > > it to neutral? There should be four distinct positions 4L, N,
2H,
> > 4H
> > > > > > coming from front to back.
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > > > > "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:egQvb.15422$Rk5.6771@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > > > Used my 85 CJ7 to pull some downed trees out of my stream. I
> > locked the
> > > > > > > hubs, put her in 4L and pulled away. No problems. I took it
out
> > of 4L
> > > > > > > (very hard shift) and drove off. Now it drives like it's
stuck in
> > 4L.
> > > > > > > 30MPH in 5th gear. What happened? How do I fix it?
#39
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Stuck in 4L??
I saw something online that showed how this kit is installed. Does anyone
have that link?
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FC0075D.F2C180FC@sympatico.ca...
> I believe so. That is why you can buy twin stick kits for them, one
> stick/rod handles low and high, the other handles the front, neutral,
> back or all.
>
> The single shifter is on a bar that grabs both shifter rods with a rivet
> like pin held by a cotter pin in each rod.
>
> Mike
>
> Joe wrote:
> >
> > So with a sheared pin I'd be able to shift between 4H, 4L, N and 2H but
it
> > would really not go into 4H or 2H (it really feels like it's stuck in
4L)?
> > This could be as easy as replacing a pin (I wish it wasn't dark out!)
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FBFFE33.20D849A@sympatico.ca...
> > > That is likely right, my D300 was two hands, passenger out of the way
> > > and all my 200 lb on it to get the bugger out sometimes before I
cleaned
> > > and greased the shafts with new seals to boot.
> > >
> > > If the pin sheared in one of the rods, it would be in 2 WD or anything
> > > low!
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Been a while since you put it in 4L? You didn't really wail on it
to
> > get
> > > > it out of 4L the first time?
> > > >
> > > > Try this: Put the lever back into the 4L position, lock in your
hubs.
> > > > Back up a ways (20 feet or so) and as you push the clutch in, try
> > pulling
> > > > the lever back to Neutral. You might have to do this several times
> > before
> > > > you can get it out of 4L, so do it someplace where you won't back
over
> > > > something. Then try putting it into 2H and see if it works.
> > > >
> > > > If that doesn't work: Pull up the floor plate over the
transmission --
> > > > the one that the shifter boots are screwed to. You may have to take
out
> > > > your carpeting to find the screws. This should give you access to
the
> > > > transfer case shifter linkage. The transfer case shifter lever
should
> > > > operate two shifter rods, and they move back and forth depending on
what
> > > > range and mode you are shifting to (I don't know if the Dana 300
case
> > has
> > > > the same wacky wiggly linkage as the Dana 20, if it does it looks
like
> > > > some aborted tavern toy and makes no sense to the eye). The shifter
> > lever
> > > > is attached to the shifter rods by pins with carter pins holding
them
> > in.
> > > > See if one hasn't wiggled out or sheared off.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck.
> > > >
> > > > On or about Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Joe of jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It shifts between the 4. The jeep moves in 4H, 4L and 2H but acts
> > like
> > > > > it's in 4L. It definately goes into N as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:1BQvb.1660$II1.161@news02.roc.ny...
> > > > > > Obviously not out of 4L. Maybe a shift linkage problem. Can
you
> > get
> > > > > > it to neutral? There should be four distinct positions 4L, N,
2H,
> > 4H
> > > > > > coming from front to back.
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > > > > "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:egQvb.15422$Rk5.6771@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > > > Used my 85 CJ7 to pull some downed trees out of my stream. I
> > locked the
> > > > > > > hubs, put her in 4L and pulled away. No problems. I took it
out
> > of 4L
> > > > > > > (very hard shift) and drove off. Now it drives like it's
stuck in
> > 4L.
> > > > > > > 30MPH in 5th gear. What happened? How do I fix it?
have that link?
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FC0075D.F2C180FC@sympatico.ca...
> I believe so. That is why you can buy twin stick kits for them, one
> stick/rod handles low and high, the other handles the front, neutral,
> back or all.
>
> The single shifter is on a bar that grabs both shifter rods with a rivet
> like pin held by a cotter pin in each rod.
>
> Mike
>
> Joe wrote:
> >
> > So with a sheared pin I'd be able to shift between 4H, 4L, N and 2H but
it
> > would really not go into 4H or 2H (it really feels like it's stuck in
4L)?
> > This could be as easy as replacing a pin (I wish it wasn't dark out!)
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FBFFE33.20D849A@sympatico.ca...
> > > That is likely right, my D300 was two hands, passenger out of the way
> > > and all my 200 lb on it to get the bugger out sometimes before I
cleaned
> > > and greased the shafts with new seals to boot.
> > >
> > > If the pin sheared in one of the rods, it would be in 2 WD or anything
> > > low!
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Been a while since you put it in 4L? You didn't really wail on it
to
> > get
> > > > it out of 4L the first time?
> > > >
> > > > Try this: Put the lever back into the 4L position, lock in your
hubs.
> > > > Back up a ways (20 feet or so) and as you push the clutch in, try
> > pulling
> > > > the lever back to Neutral. You might have to do this several times
> > before
> > > > you can get it out of 4L, so do it someplace where you won't back
over
> > > > something. Then try putting it into 2H and see if it works.
> > > >
> > > > If that doesn't work: Pull up the floor plate over the
transmission --
> > > > the one that the shifter boots are screwed to. You may have to take
out
> > > > your carpeting to find the screws. This should give you access to
the
> > > > transfer case shifter linkage. The transfer case shifter lever
should
> > > > operate two shifter rods, and they move back and forth depending on
what
> > > > range and mode you are shifting to (I don't know if the Dana 300
case
> > has
> > > > the same wacky wiggly linkage as the Dana 20, if it does it looks
like
> > > > some aborted tavern toy and makes no sense to the eye). The shifter
> > lever
> > > > is attached to the shifter rods by pins with carter pins holding
them
> > in.
> > > > See if one hasn't wiggled out or sheared off.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck.
> > > >
> > > > On or about Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Joe of jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It shifts between the 4. The jeep moves in 4H, 4L and 2H but acts
> > like
> > > > > it's in 4L. It definately goes into N as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:1BQvb.1660$II1.161@news02.roc.ny...
> > > > > > Obviously not out of 4L. Maybe a shift linkage problem. Can
you
> > get
> > > > > > it to neutral? There should be four distinct positions 4L, N,
2H,
> > 4H
> > > > > > coming from front to back.
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > > > > "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:egQvb.15422$Rk5.6771@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > > > Used my 85 CJ7 to pull some downed trees out of my stream. I
> > locked the
> > > > > > > hubs, put her in 4L and pulled away. No problems. I took it
out
> > of 4L
> > > > > > > (very hard shift) and drove off. Now it drives like it's
stuck in
> > 4L.
> > > > > > > 30MPH in 5th gear. What happened? How do I fix it?
#40
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Stuck in 4L??
I saw something online that showed how this kit is installed. Does anyone
have that link?
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FC0075D.F2C180FC@sympatico.ca...
> I believe so. That is why you can buy twin stick kits for them, one
> stick/rod handles low and high, the other handles the front, neutral,
> back or all.
>
> The single shifter is on a bar that grabs both shifter rods with a rivet
> like pin held by a cotter pin in each rod.
>
> Mike
>
> Joe wrote:
> >
> > So with a sheared pin I'd be able to shift between 4H, 4L, N and 2H but
it
> > would really not go into 4H or 2H (it really feels like it's stuck in
4L)?
> > This could be as easy as replacing a pin (I wish it wasn't dark out!)
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FBFFE33.20D849A@sympatico.ca...
> > > That is likely right, my D300 was two hands, passenger out of the way
> > > and all my 200 lb on it to get the bugger out sometimes before I
cleaned
> > > and greased the shafts with new seals to boot.
> > >
> > > If the pin sheared in one of the rods, it would be in 2 WD or anything
> > > low!
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Been a while since you put it in 4L? You didn't really wail on it
to
> > get
> > > > it out of 4L the first time?
> > > >
> > > > Try this: Put the lever back into the 4L position, lock in your
hubs.
> > > > Back up a ways (20 feet or so) and as you push the clutch in, try
> > pulling
> > > > the lever back to Neutral. You might have to do this several times
> > before
> > > > you can get it out of 4L, so do it someplace where you won't back
over
> > > > something. Then try putting it into 2H and see if it works.
> > > >
> > > > If that doesn't work: Pull up the floor plate over the
transmission --
> > > > the one that the shifter boots are screwed to. You may have to take
out
> > > > your carpeting to find the screws. This should give you access to
the
> > > > transfer case shifter linkage. The transfer case shifter lever
should
> > > > operate two shifter rods, and they move back and forth depending on
what
> > > > range and mode you are shifting to (I don't know if the Dana 300
case
> > has
> > > > the same wacky wiggly linkage as the Dana 20, if it does it looks
like
> > > > some aborted tavern toy and makes no sense to the eye). The shifter
> > lever
> > > > is attached to the shifter rods by pins with carter pins holding
them
> > in.
> > > > See if one hasn't wiggled out or sheared off.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck.
> > > >
> > > > On or about Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Joe of jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It shifts between the 4. The jeep moves in 4H, 4L and 2H but acts
> > like
> > > > > it's in 4L. It definately goes into N as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:1BQvb.1660$II1.161@news02.roc.ny...
> > > > > > Obviously not out of 4L. Maybe a shift linkage problem. Can
you
> > get
> > > > > > it to neutral? There should be four distinct positions 4L, N,
2H,
> > 4H
> > > > > > coming from front to back.
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > > > > "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:egQvb.15422$Rk5.6771@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > > > Used my 85 CJ7 to pull some downed trees out of my stream. I
> > locked the
> > > > > > > hubs, put her in 4L and pulled away. No problems. I took it
out
> > of 4L
> > > > > > > (very hard shift) and drove off. Now it drives like it's
stuck in
> > 4L.
> > > > > > > 30MPH in 5th gear. What happened? How do I fix it?
have that link?
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FC0075D.F2C180FC@sympatico.ca...
> I believe so. That is why you can buy twin stick kits for them, one
> stick/rod handles low and high, the other handles the front, neutral,
> back or all.
>
> The single shifter is on a bar that grabs both shifter rods with a rivet
> like pin held by a cotter pin in each rod.
>
> Mike
>
> Joe wrote:
> >
> > So with a sheared pin I'd be able to shift between 4H, 4L, N and 2H but
it
> > would really not go into 4H or 2H (it really feels like it's stuck in
4L)?
> > This could be as easy as replacing a pin (I wish it wasn't dark out!)
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FBFFE33.20D849A@sympatico.ca...
> > > That is likely right, my D300 was two hands, passenger out of the way
> > > and all my 200 lb on it to get the bugger out sometimes before I
cleaned
> > > and greased the shafts with new seals to boot.
> > >
> > > If the pin sheared in one of the rods, it would be in 2 WD or anything
> > > low!
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Been a while since you put it in 4L? You didn't really wail on it
to
> > get
> > > > it out of 4L the first time?
> > > >
> > > > Try this: Put the lever back into the 4L position, lock in your
hubs.
> > > > Back up a ways (20 feet or so) and as you push the clutch in, try
> > pulling
> > > > the lever back to Neutral. You might have to do this several times
> > before
> > > > you can get it out of 4L, so do it someplace where you won't back
over
> > > > something. Then try putting it into 2H and see if it works.
> > > >
> > > > If that doesn't work: Pull up the floor plate over the
transmission --
> > > > the one that the shifter boots are screwed to. You may have to take
out
> > > > your carpeting to find the screws. This should give you access to
the
> > > > transfer case shifter linkage. The transfer case shifter lever
should
> > > > operate two shifter rods, and they move back and forth depending on
what
> > > > range and mode you are shifting to (I don't know if the Dana 300
case
> > has
> > > > the same wacky wiggly linkage as the Dana 20, if it does it looks
like
> > > > some aborted tavern toy and makes no sense to the eye). The shifter
> > lever
> > > > is attached to the shifter rods by pins with carter pins holding
them
> > in.
> > > > See if one hasn't wiggled out or sheared off.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck.
> > > >
> > > > On or about Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Joe of jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It shifts between the 4. The jeep moves in 4H, 4L and 2H but acts
> > like
> > > > > it's in 4L. It definately goes into N as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:1BQvb.1660$II1.161@news02.roc.ny...
> > > > > > Obviously not out of 4L. Maybe a shift linkage problem. Can
you
> > get
> > > > > > it to neutral? There should be four distinct positions 4L, N,
2H,
> > 4H
> > > > > > coming from front to back.
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > > > > "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:egQvb.15422$Rk5.6771@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > > > Used my 85 CJ7 to pull some downed trees out of my stream. I
> > locked the
> > > > > > > hubs, put her in 4L and pulled away. No problems. I took it
out
> > of 4L
> > > > > > > (very hard shift) and drove off. Now it drives like it's
stuck in
> > 4L.
> > > > > > > 30MPH in 5th gear. What happened? How do I fix it?