I am thinking Aw ---- too....
:-(

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I am not the most experienced transfer case mechanic here, but it certainly
> sounds as if the box has to come apart to fix whatever ails it. Whether you
> define that as an "aw ----" or "something easy to fix" depends on your
> ability and experience. ;o)
>
> Earle
>
> "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:FBQvb.15438$Rk5.8797@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > Is this an "aw ----" or is it something easy to fix?
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:3FBFD4CE.672204AE@***.net...
> > > Hi Joe,
> > > In the future back up a couple of feet to relieve the bind between
> > > the axles. But now it sound like the linkage has come apart if it's in
> > > the two wheel position.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Joe wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Used my 85 CJ7 to pull some downed trees out of my stream. I locked
> the
> > > > hubs, put her in 4L and pulled away. No problems. I took it out of
> 4L
> > > > (very hard shift) and drove off. Now it drives like it's stuck in 4L.
> > > > 30MPH in 5th gear. What happened? How do I fix it?
> >
> >

 

I am thinking Aw ---- too....
:-(

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I am not the most experienced transfer case mechanic here, but it certainly
> sounds as if the box has to come apart to fix whatever ails it. Whether you
> define that as an "aw ----" or "something easy to fix" depends on your
> ability and experience. ;o)
>
> Earle
>
> "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:FBQvb.15438$Rk5.8797@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > Is this an "aw ----" or is it something easy to fix?
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:3FBFD4CE.672204AE@***.net...
> > > Hi Joe,
> > > In the future back up a couple of feet to relieve the bind between
> > > the axles. But now it sound like the linkage has come apart if it's in
> > > the two wheel position.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Joe wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Used my 85 CJ7 to pull some downed trees out of my stream. I locked
> the
> > > > hubs, put her in 4L and pulled away. No problems. I took it out of
> 4L
> > > > (very hard shift) and drove off. Now it drives like it's stuck in 4L.
> > > > 30MPH in 5th gear. What happened? How do I fix it?
> >
> >

 

Thanks Lee. I'll check all that out.
I did engage 4L and 4H about a month ago to lube all the stuff. I think it
was a tough shift out of 4L.

"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@ntplx.net> wrote in message
news:Pine.GSO.4.43.0311221752000.3472-100000@sea.ntplx.net...
>
> Been a while since you put it in 4L? You didn't really wail on it to get
> it out of 4L the first time?
>
> Try this: Put the lever back into the 4L position, lock in your hubs.
> Back up a ways (20 feet or so) and as you push the clutch in, try pulling
> the lever back to Neutral. You might have to do this several times before
> you can get it out of 4L, so do it someplace where you won't back over
> something. Then try putting it into 2H and see if it works.
>
> If that doesn't work: Pull up the floor plate over the transmission --
> the one that the shifter boots are screwed to. You may have to take out
> your carpeting to find the screws. This should give you access to the
> transfer case shifter linkage. The transfer case shifter lever should
> operate two shifter rods, and they move back and forth depending on what
> range and mode you are shifting to (I don't know if the Dana 300 case has
> the same wacky wiggly linkage as the Dana 20, if it does it looks like
> some aborted tavern toy and makes no sense to the eye). The shifter lever
> is attached to the shifter rods by pins with carter pins holding them in.
> See if one hasn't wiggled out or sheared off.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
> On or about Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Joe of jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > It shifts between the 4. The jeep moves in 4H, 4L and 2H but acts like
> > it's in 4L. It definately goes into N as well.
> >
> > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > news:1BQvb.1660$II1.161@news02.roc.ny...
> > > Obviously not out of 4L. Maybe a shift linkage problem. Can you get
> > > it to neutral? There should be four distinct positions 4L, N, 2H, 4H
> > > coming from front to back.
>
> [snip]
> > > "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:egQvb.15422$Rk5.6771@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > Used my 85 CJ7 to pull some downed trees out of my stream. I locked
the
> > > > hubs, put her in 4L and pulled away. No problems. I took it out of
4L
> > > > (very hard shift) and drove off. Now it drives like it's stuck in
4L.
> > > > 30MPH in 5th gear. What happened? How do I fix it?
>
>

 

Thanks Lee. I'll check all that out.
I did engage 4L and 4H about a month ago to lube all the stuff. I think it
was a tough shift out of 4L.

"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@ntplx.net> wrote in message
news:Pine.GSO.4.43.0311221752000.3472-100000@sea.ntplx.net...
>
> Been a while since you put it in 4L? You didn't really wail on it to get
> it out of 4L the first time?
>
> Try this: Put the lever back into the 4L position, lock in your hubs.
> Back up a ways (20 feet or so) and as you push the clutch in, try pulling
> the lever back to Neutral. You might have to do this several times before
> you can get it out of 4L, so do it someplace where you won't back over
> something. Then try putting it into 2H and see if it works.
>
> If that doesn't work: Pull up the floor plate over the transmission --
> the one that the shifter boots are screwed to. You may have to take out
> your carpeting to find the screws. This should give you access to the
> transfer case shifter linkage. The transfer case shifter lever should
> operate two shifter rods, and they move back and forth depending on what
> range and mode you are shifting to (I don't know if the Dana 300 case has
> the same wacky wiggly linkage as the Dana 20, if it does it looks like
> some aborted tavern toy and makes no sense to the eye). The shifter lever
> is attached to the shifter rods by pins with carter pins holding them in.
> See if one hasn't wiggled out or sheared off.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
> On or about Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Joe of jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > It shifts between the 4. The jeep moves in 4H, 4L and 2H but acts like
> > it's in 4L. It definately goes into N as well.
> >
> > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > news:1BQvb.1660$II1.161@news02.roc.ny...
> > > Obviously not out of 4L. Maybe a shift linkage problem. Can you get
> > > it to neutral? There should be four distinct positions 4L, N, 2H, 4H
> > > coming from front to back.
>
> [snip]
> > > "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:egQvb.15422$Rk5.6771@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > Used my 85 CJ7 to pull some downed trees out of my stream. I locked
the
> > > > hubs, put her in 4L and pulled away. No problems. I took it out of
4L
> > > > (very hard shift) and drove off. Now it drives like it's stuck in
4L.
> > > > 30MPH in 5th gear. What happened? How do I fix it?
>
>

 

Thanks Lee. I'll check all that out.
I did engage 4L and 4H about a month ago to lube all the stuff. I think it
was a tough shift out of 4L.

"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@ntplx.net> wrote in message
news:Pine.GSO.4.43.0311221752000.3472-100000@sea.ntplx.net...
>
> Been a while since you put it in 4L? You didn't really wail on it to get
> it out of 4L the first time?
>
> Try this: Put the lever back into the 4L position, lock in your hubs.
> Back up a ways (20 feet or so) and as you push the clutch in, try pulling
> the lever back to Neutral. You might have to do this several times before
> you can get it out of 4L, so do it someplace where you won't back over
> something. Then try putting it into 2H and see if it works.
>
> If that doesn't work: Pull up the floor plate over the transmission --
> the one that the shifter boots are screwed to. You may have to take out
> your carpeting to find the screws. This should give you access to the
> transfer case shifter linkage. The transfer case shifter lever should
> operate two shifter rods, and they move back and forth depending on what
> range and mode you are shifting to (I don't know if the Dana 300 case has
> the same wacky wiggly linkage as the Dana 20, if it does it looks like
> some aborted tavern toy and makes no sense to the eye). The shifter lever
> is attached to the shifter rods by pins with carter pins holding them in.
> See if one hasn't wiggled out or sheared off.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
> On or about Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Joe of jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > It shifts between the 4. The jeep moves in 4H, 4L and 2H but acts like
> > it's in 4L. It definately goes into N as well.
> >
> > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > news:1BQvb.1660$II1.161@news02.roc.ny...
> > > Obviously not out of 4L. Maybe a shift linkage problem. Can you get
> > > it to neutral? There should be four distinct positions 4L, N, 2H, 4H
> > > coming from front to back.
>
> [snip]
> > > "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:egQvb.15422$Rk5.6771@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > Used my 85 CJ7 to pull some downed trees out of my stream. I locked
the
> > > > hubs, put her in 4L and pulled away. No problems. I took it out of
4L
> > > > (very hard shift) and drove off. Now it drives like it's stuck in
4L.
> > > > 30MPH in 5th gear. What happened? How do I fix it?
>
>

 

That is likely right, my D300 was two hands, passenger out of the way
and all my 200 lb on it to get the bugger out sometimes before I cleaned
and greased the shafts with new seals to boot.

If the pin sheared in one of the rods, it would be in 2 WD or anything
low!

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> Been a while since you put it in 4L? You didn't really wail on it to get
> it out of 4L the first time?
>
> Try this: Put the lever back into the 4L position, lock in your hubs.
> Back up a ways (20 feet or so) and as you push the clutch in, try pulling
> the lever back to Neutral. You might have to do this several times before
> you can get it out of 4L, so do it someplace where you won't back over
> something. Then try putting it into 2H and see if it works.
>
> If that doesn't work: Pull up the floor plate over the transmission --
> the one that the shifter boots are screwed to. You may have to take out
> your carpeting to find the screws. This should give you access to the
> transfer case shifter linkage. The transfer case shifter lever should
> operate two shifter rods, and they move back and forth depending on what
> range and mode you are shifting to (I don't know if the Dana 300 case has
> the same wacky wiggly linkage as the Dana 20, if it does it looks like
> some aborted tavern toy and makes no sense to the eye). The shifter lever
> is attached to the shifter rods by pins with carter pins holding them in.
> See if one hasn't wiggled out or sheared off.
>
> Good luck.
>
> On or about Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Joe of jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > It shifts between the 4. The jeep moves in 4H, 4L and 2H but acts like
> > it's in 4L. It definately goes into N as well.
> >
> > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > news:1BQvb.1660$II1.161@news02.roc.ny...
> > > Obviously not out of 4L. Maybe a shift linkage problem. Can you get
> > > it to neutral? There should be four distinct positions 4L, N, 2H, 4H
> > > coming from front to back.
>
> [snip]
> > > "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:egQvb.15422$Rk5.6771@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > Used my 85 CJ7 to pull some downed trees out of my stream. I locked the
> > > > hubs, put her in 4L and pulled away. No problems. I took it out of 4L
> > > > (very hard shift) and drove off. Now it drives like it's stuck in 4L.
> > > > 30MPH in 5th gear. What happened? How do I fix it?

 

That is likely right, my D300 was two hands, passenger out of the way
and all my 200 lb on it to get the bugger out sometimes before I cleaned
and greased the shafts with new seals to boot.

If the pin sheared in one of the rods, it would be in 2 WD or anything
low!

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> Been a while since you put it in 4L? You didn't really wail on it to get
> it out of 4L the first time?
>
> Try this: Put the lever back into the 4L position, lock in your hubs.
> Back up a ways (20 feet or so) and as you push the clutch in, try pulling
> the lever back to Neutral. You might have to do this several times before
> you can get it out of 4L, so do it someplace where you won't back over
> something. Then try putting it into 2H and see if it works.
>
> If that doesn't work: Pull up the floor plate over the transmission --
> the one that the shifter boots are screwed to. You may have to take out
> your carpeting to find the screws. This should give you access to the
> transfer case shifter linkage. The transfer case shifter lever should
> operate two shifter rods, and they move back and forth depending on what
> range and mode you are shifting to (I don't know if the Dana 300 case has
> the same wacky wiggly linkage as the Dana 20, if it does it looks like
> some aborted tavern toy and makes no sense to the eye). The shifter lever
> is attached to the shifter rods by pins with carter pins holding them in.
> See if one hasn't wiggled out or sheared off.
>
> Good luck.
>
> On or about Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Joe of jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > It shifts between the 4. The jeep moves in 4H, 4L and 2H but acts like
> > it's in 4L. It definately goes into N as well.
> >
> > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > news:1BQvb.1660$II1.161@news02.roc.ny...
> > > Obviously not out of 4L. Maybe a shift linkage problem. Can you get
> > > it to neutral? There should be four distinct positions 4L, N, 2H, 4H
> > > coming from front to back.
>
> [snip]
> > > "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:egQvb.15422$Rk5.6771@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > Used my 85 CJ7 to pull some downed trees out of my stream. I locked the
> > > > hubs, put her in 4L and pulled away. No problems. I took it out of 4L
> > > > (very hard shift) and drove off. Now it drives like it's stuck in 4L.
> > > > 30MPH in 5th gear. What happened? How do I fix it?

 

That is likely right, my D300 was two hands, passenger out of the way
and all my 200 lb on it to get the bugger out sometimes before I cleaned
and greased the shafts with new seals to boot.

If the pin sheared in one of the rods, it would be in 2 WD or anything
low!

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> Been a while since you put it in 4L? You didn't really wail on it to get
> it out of 4L the first time?
>
> Try this: Put the lever back into the 4L position, lock in your hubs.
> Back up a ways (20 feet or so) and as you push the clutch in, try pulling
> the lever back to Neutral. You might have to do this several times before
> you can get it out of 4L, so do it someplace where you won't back over
> something. Then try putting it into 2H and see if it works.
>
> If that doesn't work: Pull up the floor plate over the transmission --
> the one that the shifter boots are screwed to. You may have to take out
> your carpeting to find the screws. This should give you access to the
> transfer case shifter linkage. The transfer case shifter lever should
> operate two shifter rods, and they move back and forth depending on what
> range and mode you are shifting to (I don't know if the Dana 300 case has
> the same wacky wiggly linkage as the Dana 20, if it does it looks like
> some aborted tavern toy and makes no sense to the eye). The shifter lever
> is attached to the shifter rods by pins with carter pins holding them in.
> See if one hasn't wiggled out or sheared off.
>
> Good luck.
>
> On or about Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Joe of jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > It shifts between the 4. The jeep moves in 4H, 4L and 2H but acts like
> > it's in 4L. It definately goes into N as well.
> >
> > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > news:1BQvb.1660$II1.161@news02.roc.ny...
> > > Obviously not out of 4L. Maybe a shift linkage problem. Can you get
> > > it to neutral? There should be four distinct positions 4L, N, 2H, 4H
> > > coming from front to back.
>
> [snip]
> > > "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:egQvb.15422$Rk5.6771@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > Used my 85 CJ7 to pull some downed trees out of my stream. I locked the
> > > > hubs, put her in 4L and pulled away. No problems. I took it out of 4L
> > > > (very hard shift) and drove off. Now it drives like it's stuck in 4L.
> > > > 30MPH in 5th gear. What happened? How do I fix it?

 

So with a sheared pin I'd be able to shift between 4H, 4L, N and 2H but it
would really not go into 4H or 2H (it really feels like it's stuck in 4L)?
This could be as easy as replacing a pin (I wish it wasn't dark out!)

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FBFFE33.20D849A@sympatico.ca...
> That is likely right, my D300 was two hands, passenger out of the way
> and all my 200 lb on it to get the bugger out sometimes before I cleaned
> and greased the shafts with new seals to boot.
>
> If the pin sheared in one of the rods, it would be in 2 WD or anything
> low!
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
> >
> > Been a while since you put it in 4L? You didn't really wail on it to
get
> > it out of 4L the first time?
> >
> > Try this: Put the lever back into the 4L position, lock in your hubs.
> > Back up a ways (20 feet or so) and as you push the clutch in, try
pulling
> > the lever back to Neutral. You might have to do this several times
before
> > you can get it out of 4L, so do it someplace where you won't back over
> > something. Then try putting it into 2H and see if it works.
> >
> > If that doesn't work: Pull up the floor plate over the transmission --
> > the one that the shifter boots are screwed to. You may have to take out
> > your carpeting to find the screws. This should give you access to the
> > transfer case shifter linkage. The transfer case shifter lever should
> > operate two shifter rods, and they move back and forth depending on what
> > range and mode you are shifting to (I don't know if the Dana 300 case
has
> > the same wacky wiggly linkage as the Dana 20, if it does it looks like
> > some aborted tavern toy and makes no sense to the eye). The shifter
lever
> > is attached to the shifter rods by pins with carter pins holding them
in.
> > See if one hasn't wiggled out or sheared off.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> > On or about Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Joe of jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > > It shifts between the 4. The jeep moves in 4H, 4L and 2H but acts
like
> > > it's in 4L. It definately goes into N as well.
> > >
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1BQvb.1660$II1.161@news02.roc.ny...
> > > > Obviously not out of 4L. Maybe a shift linkage problem. Can you
get
> > > > it to neutral? There should be four distinct positions 4L, N, 2H,
4H
> > > > coming from front to back.
> >
> > [snip]
> > > > "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:egQvb.15422$Rk5.6771@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > Used my 85 CJ7 to pull some downed trees out of my stream. I
locked the
> > > > > hubs, put her in 4L and pulled away. No problems. I took it out
of 4L
> > > > > (very hard shift) and drove off. Now it drives like it's stuck in
4L.
> > > > > 30MPH in 5th gear. What happened? How do I fix it?

 

So with a sheared pin I'd be able to shift between 4H, 4L, N and 2H but it
would really not go into 4H or 2H (it really feels like it's stuck in 4L)?
This could be as easy as replacing a pin (I wish it wasn't dark out!)

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FBFFE33.20D849A@sympatico.ca...
> That is likely right, my D300 was two hands, passenger out of the way
> and all my 200 lb on it to get the bugger out sometimes before I cleaned
> and greased the shafts with new seals to boot.
>
> If the pin sheared in one of the rods, it would be in 2 WD or anything
> low!
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
> >
> > Been a while since you put it in 4L? You didn't really wail on it to
get
> > it out of 4L the first time?
> >
> > Try this: Put the lever back into the 4L position, lock in your hubs.
> > Back up a ways (20 feet or so) and as you push the clutch in, try
pulling
> > the lever back to Neutral. You might have to do this several times
before
> > you can get it out of 4L, so do it someplace where you won't back over
> > something. Then try putting it into 2H and see if it works.
> >
> > If that doesn't work: Pull up the floor plate over the transmission --
> > the one that the shifter boots are screwed to. You may have to take out
> > your carpeting to find the screws. This should give you access to the
> > transfer case shifter linkage. The transfer case shifter lever should
> > operate two shifter rods, and they move back and forth depending on what
> > range and mode you are shifting to (I don't know if the Dana 300 case
has
> > the same wacky wiggly linkage as the Dana 20, if it does it looks like
> > some aborted tavern toy and makes no sense to the eye). The shifter
lever
> > is attached to the shifter rods by pins with carter pins holding them
in.
> > See if one hasn't wiggled out or sheared off.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> > On or about Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Joe of jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > > It shifts between the 4. The jeep moves in 4H, 4L and 2H but acts
like
> > > it's in 4L. It definately goes into N as well.
> > >
> > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1BQvb.1660$II1.161@news02.roc.ny...
> > > > Obviously not out of 4L. Maybe a shift linkage problem. Can you
get
> > > > it to neutral? There should be four distinct positions 4L, N, 2H,
4H
> > > > coming from front to back.
> >
> > [snip]
> > > > "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:egQvb.15422$Rk5.6771@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > Used my 85 CJ7 to pull some downed trees out of my stream. I
locked the
> > > > > hubs, put her in 4L and pulled away. No problems. I took it out
of 4L
> > > > > (very hard shift) and drove off. Now it drives like it's stuck in
4L.
> > > > > 30MPH in 5th gear. What happened? How do I fix it?