steering columns- cherokee to wrangler?
#31
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Re: steering columns- cherokee to wrangler?
I have an old tilt steering column (column shift), shaft and power
steering gear box from a Chevy caprice (model unknown but it looked late
80's to very early 90's). I want to convert to power steering and the tilt
would nice. I bought a Jeep power steering shaft.
Overall, the column is longer than my Jeep and the shaft is much shorter
than my stock. Does anybody know if I can use the Chevy tilt column and
gear box in the Jeep if I have a new power steering shaft?
o_o_o_o
Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:407D7D8D.9F1F0A82@sympatico.ca...
> GM uses the same Saganaw steering column so you have a large choice for
> colors, tilt, etc. at the wreckers..
>
> Mike
>
>
> Daudi wrote:
> >
> > Ah. Yes. My wrangler is a 1987. The cherokee being parted out is early
> > 90's I believe. I actually haven't asked because the idea just recently
> > occured to me.
> >
> > Wrangler's use GM steering columns?
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > > You need to give us some years and makes.
> > >
> > > Apparently they changed the column from the Saganaw unit every GM van,
> > > Camaro, Chevette and pickup uses in the mid 90's to something else.
One
> > > person that doesn't usually have accurate info says it was in 94, but
I
> > > would suspect the change was with the TJ, not in the middle of the
> > > production run of the YJ's.
> > >
> > > The GM units are a fast easy swap. A couple bolts under the dash, a
> > > couple at the firewall and one spline bolt outside the firewall. You
> > > pull and out it comes.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Daudi wrote:
> > >
> > >>The adjustable steering column in my wrangler is very loose; sloppy
down
> > >>in the pivot, the joint. I am worried that it may come apart some day
> > >>when driving.
> > >>
> > >>I've had the steering wheel come off a car when driving (long, long
ago
> > >>when we bought cars for $50) but that was easy to put back on. A
> > >>separated U-joint down inside the steering column seems like it would
be
> > >>more difficult to arrange.
> > >>
> > >>I can find a steering column from a parting out cherokee. Are they
> > >>interchangable?
steering gear box from a Chevy caprice (model unknown but it looked late
80's to very early 90's). I want to convert to power steering and the tilt
would nice. I bought a Jeep power steering shaft.
Overall, the column is longer than my Jeep and the shaft is much shorter
than my stock. Does anybody know if I can use the Chevy tilt column and
gear box in the Jeep if I have a new power steering shaft?
o_o_o_o
Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:407D7D8D.9F1F0A82@sympatico.ca...
> GM uses the same Saganaw steering column so you have a large choice for
> colors, tilt, etc. at the wreckers..
>
> Mike
>
>
> Daudi wrote:
> >
> > Ah. Yes. My wrangler is a 1987. The cherokee being parted out is early
> > 90's I believe. I actually haven't asked because the idea just recently
> > occured to me.
> >
> > Wrangler's use GM steering columns?
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > > You need to give us some years and makes.
> > >
> > > Apparently they changed the column from the Saganaw unit every GM van,
> > > Camaro, Chevette and pickup uses in the mid 90's to something else.
One
> > > person that doesn't usually have accurate info says it was in 94, but
I
> > > would suspect the change was with the TJ, not in the middle of the
> > > production run of the YJ's.
> > >
> > > The GM units are a fast easy swap. A couple bolts under the dash, a
> > > couple at the firewall and one spline bolt outside the firewall. You
> > > pull and out it comes.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Daudi wrote:
> > >
> > >>The adjustable steering column in my wrangler is very loose; sloppy
down
> > >>in the pivot, the joint. I am worried that it may come apart some day
> > >>when driving.
> > >>
> > >>I've had the steering wheel come off a car when driving (long, long
ago
> > >>when we bought cars for $50) but that was easy to put back on. A
> > >>separated U-joint down inside the steering column seems like it would
be
> > >>more difficult to arrange.
> > >>
> > >>I can find a steering column from a parting out cherokee. Are they
> > >>interchangable?
#32
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Posts: n/a
Re: steering columns- cherokee to wrangler?
I have an old tilt steering column (column shift), shaft and power
steering gear box from a Chevy caprice (model unknown but it looked late
80's to very early 90's). I want to convert to power steering and the tilt
would nice. I bought a Jeep power steering shaft.
Overall, the column is longer than my Jeep and the shaft is much shorter
than my stock. Does anybody know if I can use the Chevy tilt column and
gear box in the Jeep if I have a new power steering shaft?
o_o_o_o
Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:407D7D8D.9F1F0A82@sympatico.ca...
> GM uses the same Saganaw steering column so you have a large choice for
> colors, tilt, etc. at the wreckers..
>
> Mike
>
>
> Daudi wrote:
> >
> > Ah. Yes. My wrangler is a 1987. The cherokee being parted out is early
> > 90's I believe. I actually haven't asked because the idea just recently
> > occured to me.
> >
> > Wrangler's use GM steering columns?
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > > You need to give us some years and makes.
> > >
> > > Apparently they changed the column from the Saganaw unit every GM van,
> > > Camaro, Chevette and pickup uses in the mid 90's to something else.
One
> > > person that doesn't usually have accurate info says it was in 94, but
I
> > > would suspect the change was with the TJ, not in the middle of the
> > > production run of the YJ's.
> > >
> > > The GM units are a fast easy swap. A couple bolts under the dash, a
> > > couple at the firewall and one spline bolt outside the firewall. You
> > > pull and out it comes.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Daudi wrote:
> > >
> > >>The adjustable steering column in my wrangler is very loose; sloppy
down
> > >>in the pivot, the joint. I am worried that it may come apart some day
> > >>when driving.
> > >>
> > >>I've had the steering wheel come off a car when driving (long, long
ago
> > >>when we bought cars for $50) but that was easy to put back on. A
> > >>separated U-joint down inside the steering column seems like it would
be
> > >>more difficult to arrange.
> > >>
> > >>I can find a steering column from a parting out cherokee. Are they
> > >>interchangable?
steering gear box from a Chevy caprice (model unknown but it looked late
80's to very early 90's). I want to convert to power steering and the tilt
would nice. I bought a Jeep power steering shaft.
Overall, the column is longer than my Jeep and the shaft is much shorter
than my stock. Does anybody know if I can use the Chevy tilt column and
gear box in the Jeep if I have a new power steering shaft?
o_o_o_o
Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:407D7D8D.9F1F0A82@sympatico.ca...
> GM uses the same Saganaw steering column so you have a large choice for
> colors, tilt, etc. at the wreckers..
>
> Mike
>
>
> Daudi wrote:
> >
> > Ah. Yes. My wrangler is a 1987. The cherokee being parted out is early
> > 90's I believe. I actually haven't asked because the idea just recently
> > occured to me.
> >
> > Wrangler's use GM steering columns?
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > > You need to give us some years and makes.
> > >
> > > Apparently they changed the column from the Saganaw unit every GM van,
> > > Camaro, Chevette and pickup uses in the mid 90's to something else.
One
> > > person that doesn't usually have accurate info says it was in 94, but
I
> > > would suspect the change was with the TJ, not in the middle of the
> > > production run of the YJ's.
> > >
> > > The GM units are a fast easy swap. A couple bolts under the dash, a
> > > couple at the firewall and one spline bolt outside the firewall. You
> > > pull and out it comes.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Daudi wrote:
> > >
> > >>The adjustable steering column in my wrangler is very loose; sloppy
down
> > >>in the pivot, the joint. I am worried that it may come apart some day
> > >>when driving.
> > >>
> > >>I've had the steering wheel come off a car when driving (long, long
ago
> > >>when we bought cars for $50) but that was easy to put back on. A
> > >>separated U-joint down inside the steering column seems like it would
be
> > >>more difficult to arrange.
> > >>
> > >>I can find a steering column from a parting out cherokee. Are they
> > >>interchangable?
#33
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Posts: n/a
Re: steering columns- cherokee to wrangler?
I have an old tilt steering column (column shift), shaft and power
steering gear box from a Chevy caprice (model unknown but it looked late
80's to very early 90's). I want to convert to power steering and the tilt
would nice. I bought a Jeep power steering shaft.
Overall, the column is longer than my Jeep and the shaft is much shorter
than my stock. Does anybody know if I can use the Chevy tilt column and
gear box in the Jeep if I have a new power steering shaft?
o_o_o_o
Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:407D7D8D.9F1F0A82@sympatico.ca...
> GM uses the same Saganaw steering column so you have a large choice for
> colors, tilt, etc. at the wreckers..
>
> Mike
>
>
> Daudi wrote:
> >
> > Ah. Yes. My wrangler is a 1987. The cherokee being parted out is early
> > 90's I believe. I actually haven't asked because the idea just recently
> > occured to me.
> >
> > Wrangler's use GM steering columns?
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > > You need to give us some years and makes.
> > >
> > > Apparently they changed the column from the Saganaw unit every GM van,
> > > Camaro, Chevette and pickup uses in the mid 90's to something else.
One
> > > person that doesn't usually have accurate info says it was in 94, but
I
> > > would suspect the change was with the TJ, not in the middle of the
> > > production run of the YJ's.
> > >
> > > The GM units are a fast easy swap. A couple bolts under the dash, a
> > > couple at the firewall and one spline bolt outside the firewall. You
> > > pull and out it comes.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Daudi wrote:
> > >
> > >>The adjustable steering column in my wrangler is very loose; sloppy
down
> > >>in the pivot, the joint. I am worried that it may come apart some day
> > >>when driving.
> > >>
> > >>I've had the steering wheel come off a car when driving (long, long
ago
> > >>when we bought cars for $50) but that was easy to put back on. A
> > >>separated U-joint down inside the steering column seems like it would
be
> > >>more difficult to arrange.
> > >>
> > >>I can find a steering column from a parting out cherokee. Are they
> > >>interchangable?
steering gear box from a Chevy caprice (model unknown but it looked late
80's to very early 90's). I want to convert to power steering and the tilt
would nice. I bought a Jeep power steering shaft.
Overall, the column is longer than my Jeep and the shaft is much shorter
than my stock. Does anybody know if I can use the Chevy tilt column and
gear box in the Jeep if I have a new power steering shaft?
o_o_o_o
Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:407D7D8D.9F1F0A82@sympatico.ca...
> GM uses the same Saganaw steering column so you have a large choice for
> colors, tilt, etc. at the wreckers..
>
> Mike
>
>
> Daudi wrote:
> >
> > Ah. Yes. My wrangler is a 1987. The cherokee being parted out is early
> > 90's I believe. I actually haven't asked because the idea just recently
> > occured to me.
> >
> > Wrangler's use GM steering columns?
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > > You need to give us some years and makes.
> > >
> > > Apparently they changed the column from the Saganaw unit every GM van,
> > > Camaro, Chevette and pickup uses in the mid 90's to something else.
One
> > > person that doesn't usually have accurate info says it was in 94, but
I
> > > would suspect the change was with the TJ, not in the middle of the
> > > production run of the YJ's.
> > >
> > > The GM units are a fast easy swap. A couple bolts under the dash, a
> > > couple at the firewall and one spline bolt outside the firewall. You
> > > pull and out it comes.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Daudi wrote:
> > >
> > >>The adjustable steering column in my wrangler is very loose; sloppy
down
> > >>in the pivot, the joint. I am worried that it may come apart some day
> > >>when driving.
> > >>
> > >>I've had the steering wheel come off a car when driving (long, long
ago
> > >>when we bought cars for $50) but that was easy to put back on. A
> > >>separated U-joint down inside the steering column seems like it would
be
> > >>more difficult to arrange.
> > >>
> > >>I can find a steering column from a parting out cherokee. Are they
> > >>interchangable?
#34
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Re: steering columns- cherokee to wrangler?
Hi Jim,
There's a zillion old Jeeps running around with that setup. But I'd
really try to keep it with the stock sized box, shafts and column, it'll
probably save you time improvising, and a whole lot easier for the next
owner. There's also a big difference between passenger and Jeep steering
ratios, three turns lock to lock is about twice as fast a Jeep.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Drink wrote:
>
> I have an old tilt steering column (column shift), shaft and power
> steering gear box from a Chevy caprice (model unknown but it looked late
> 80's to very early 90's). I want to convert to power steering and the tilt
> would nice. I bought a Jeep power steering shaft.
> Overall, the column is longer than my Jeep and the shaft is much shorter
> than my stock. Does anybody know if I can use the Chevy tilt column and
> gear box in the Jeep if I have a new power steering shaft?
> o_o_o_o
> Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
> Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:407D7D8D.9F1F0A82@sympatico.ca...
> > GM uses the same Saganaw steering column so you have a large choice for
> > colors, tilt, etc. at the wreckers..
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > Daudi wrote:
> > >
> > > Ah. Yes. My wrangler is a 1987. The cherokee being parted out is early
> > > 90's I believe. I actually haven't asked because the idea just recently
> > > occured to me.
> > >
> > > Wrangler's use GM steering columns?
> > >
> > > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > > You need to give us some years and makes.
> > > >
> > > > Apparently they changed the column from the Saganaw unit every GM van,
> > > > Camaro, Chevette and pickup uses in the mid 90's to something else.
> One
> > > > person that doesn't usually have accurate info says it was in 94, but
> I
> > > > would suspect the change was with the TJ, not in the middle of the
> > > > production run of the YJ's.
> > > >
> > > > The GM units are a fast easy swap. A couple bolts under the dash, a
> > > > couple at the firewall and one spline bolt outside the firewall. You
> > > > pull and out it comes.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > Daudi wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>The adjustable steering column in my wrangler is very loose; sloppy
> down
> > > >>in the pivot, the joint. I am worried that it may come apart some day
> > > >>when driving.
> > > >>
> > > >>I've had the steering wheel come off a car when driving (long, long
> ago
> > > >>when we bought cars for $50) but that was easy to put back on. A
> > > >>separated U-joint down inside the steering column seems like it would
> be
> > > >>more difficult to arrange.
> > > >>
> > > >>I can find a steering column from a parting out cherokee. Are they
> > > >>interchangable?
There's a zillion old Jeeps running around with that setup. But I'd
really try to keep it with the stock sized box, shafts and column, it'll
probably save you time improvising, and a whole lot easier for the next
owner. There's also a big difference between passenger and Jeep steering
ratios, three turns lock to lock is about twice as fast a Jeep.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Drink wrote:
>
> I have an old tilt steering column (column shift), shaft and power
> steering gear box from a Chevy caprice (model unknown but it looked late
> 80's to very early 90's). I want to convert to power steering and the tilt
> would nice. I bought a Jeep power steering shaft.
> Overall, the column is longer than my Jeep and the shaft is much shorter
> than my stock. Does anybody know if I can use the Chevy tilt column and
> gear box in the Jeep if I have a new power steering shaft?
> o_o_o_o
> Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
> Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:407D7D8D.9F1F0A82@sympatico.ca...
> > GM uses the same Saganaw steering column so you have a large choice for
> > colors, tilt, etc. at the wreckers..
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > Daudi wrote:
> > >
> > > Ah. Yes. My wrangler is a 1987. The cherokee being parted out is early
> > > 90's I believe. I actually haven't asked because the idea just recently
> > > occured to me.
> > >
> > > Wrangler's use GM steering columns?
> > >
> > > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > > You need to give us some years and makes.
> > > >
> > > > Apparently they changed the column from the Saganaw unit every GM van,
> > > > Camaro, Chevette and pickup uses in the mid 90's to something else.
> One
> > > > person that doesn't usually have accurate info says it was in 94, but
> I
> > > > would suspect the change was with the TJ, not in the middle of the
> > > > production run of the YJ's.
> > > >
> > > > The GM units are a fast easy swap. A couple bolts under the dash, a
> > > > couple at the firewall and one spline bolt outside the firewall. You
> > > > pull and out it comes.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > Daudi wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>The adjustable steering column in my wrangler is very loose; sloppy
> down
> > > >>in the pivot, the joint. I am worried that it may come apart some day
> > > >>when driving.
> > > >>
> > > >>I've had the steering wheel come off a car when driving (long, long
> ago
> > > >>when we bought cars for $50) but that was easy to put back on. A
> > > >>separated U-joint down inside the steering column seems like it would
> be
> > > >>more difficult to arrange.
> > > >>
> > > >>I can find a steering column from a parting out cherokee. Are they
> > > >>interchangable?
#35
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: steering columns- cherokee to wrangler?
Hi Jim,
There's a zillion old Jeeps running around with that setup. But I'd
really try to keep it with the stock sized box, shafts and column, it'll
probably save you time improvising, and a whole lot easier for the next
owner. There's also a big difference between passenger and Jeep steering
ratios, three turns lock to lock is about twice as fast a Jeep.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Drink wrote:
>
> I have an old tilt steering column (column shift), shaft and power
> steering gear box from a Chevy caprice (model unknown but it looked late
> 80's to very early 90's). I want to convert to power steering and the tilt
> would nice. I bought a Jeep power steering shaft.
> Overall, the column is longer than my Jeep and the shaft is much shorter
> than my stock. Does anybody know if I can use the Chevy tilt column and
> gear box in the Jeep if I have a new power steering shaft?
> o_o_o_o
> Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
> Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:407D7D8D.9F1F0A82@sympatico.ca...
> > GM uses the same Saganaw steering column so you have a large choice for
> > colors, tilt, etc. at the wreckers..
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > Daudi wrote:
> > >
> > > Ah. Yes. My wrangler is a 1987. The cherokee being parted out is early
> > > 90's I believe. I actually haven't asked because the idea just recently
> > > occured to me.
> > >
> > > Wrangler's use GM steering columns?
> > >
> > > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > > You need to give us some years and makes.
> > > >
> > > > Apparently they changed the column from the Saganaw unit every GM van,
> > > > Camaro, Chevette and pickup uses in the mid 90's to something else.
> One
> > > > person that doesn't usually have accurate info says it was in 94, but
> I
> > > > would suspect the change was with the TJ, not in the middle of the
> > > > production run of the YJ's.
> > > >
> > > > The GM units are a fast easy swap. A couple bolts under the dash, a
> > > > couple at the firewall and one spline bolt outside the firewall. You
> > > > pull and out it comes.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > Daudi wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>The adjustable steering column in my wrangler is very loose; sloppy
> down
> > > >>in the pivot, the joint. I am worried that it may come apart some day
> > > >>when driving.
> > > >>
> > > >>I've had the steering wheel come off a car when driving (long, long
> ago
> > > >>when we bought cars for $50) but that was easy to put back on. A
> > > >>separated U-joint down inside the steering column seems like it would
> be
> > > >>more difficult to arrange.
> > > >>
> > > >>I can find a steering column from a parting out cherokee. Are they
> > > >>interchangable?
There's a zillion old Jeeps running around with that setup. But I'd
really try to keep it with the stock sized box, shafts and column, it'll
probably save you time improvising, and a whole lot easier for the next
owner. There's also a big difference between passenger and Jeep steering
ratios, three turns lock to lock is about twice as fast a Jeep.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Drink wrote:
>
> I have an old tilt steering column (column shift), shaft and power
> steering gear box from a Chevy caprice (model unknown but it looked late
> 80's to very early 90's). I want to convert to power steering and the tilt
> would nice. I bought a Jeep power steering shaft.
> Overall, the column is longer than my Jeep and the shaft is much shorter
> than my stock. Does anybody know if I can use the Chevy tilt column and
> gear box in the Jeep if I have a new power steering shaft?
> o_o_o_o
> Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
> Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:407D7D8D.9F1F0A82@sympatico.ca...
> > GM uses the same Saganaw steering column so you have a large choice for
> > colors, tilt, etc. at the wreckers..
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > Daudi wrote:
> > >
> > > Ah. Yes. My wrangler is a 1987. The cherokee being parted out is early
> > > 90's I believe. I actually haven't asked because the idea just recently
> > > occured to me.
> > >
> > > Wrangler's use GM steering columns?
> > >
> > > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > > You need to give us some years and makes.
> > > >
> > > > Apparently they changed the column from the Saganaw unit every GM van,
> > > > Camaro, Chevette and pickup uses in the mid 90's to something else.
> One
> > > > person that doesn't usually have accurate info says it was in 94, but
> I
> > > > would suspect the change was with the TJ, not in the middle of the
> > > > production run of the YJ's.
> > > >
> > > > The GM units are a fast easy swap. A couple bolts under the dash, a
> > > > couple at the firewall and one spline bolt outside the firewall. You
> > > > pull and out it comes.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > Daudi wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>The adjustable steering column in my wrangler is very loose; sloppy
> down
> > > >>in the pivot, the joint. I am worried that it may come apart some day
> > > >>when driving.
> > > >>
> > > >>I've had the steering wheel come off a car when driving (long, long
> ago
> > > >>when we bought cars for $50) but that was easy to put back on. A
> > > >>separated U-joint down inside the steering column seems like it would
> be
> > > >>more difficult to arrange.
> > > >>
> > > >>I can find a steering column from a parting out cherokee. Are they
> > > >>interchangable?
#36
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: steering columns- cherokee to wrangler?
Hi Jim,
There's a zillion old Jeeps running around with that setup. But I'd
really try to keep it with the stock sized box, shafts and column, it'll
probably save you time improvising, and a whole lot easier for the next
owner. There's also a big difference between passenger and Jeep steering
ratios, three turns lock to lock is about twice as fast a Jeep.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Drink wrote:
>
> I have an old tilt steering column (column shift), shaft and power
> steering gear box from a Chevy caprice (model unknown but it looked late
> 80's to very early 90's). I want to convert to power steering and the tilt
> would nice. I bought a Jeep power steering shaft.
> Overall, the column is longer than my Jeep and the shaft is much shorter
> than my stock. Does anybody know if I can use the Chevy tilt column and
> gear box in the Jeep if I have a new power steering shaft?
> o_o_o_o
> Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
> Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:407D7D8D.9F1F0A82@sympatico.ca...
> > GM uses the same Saganaw steering column so you have a large choice for
> > colors, tilt, etc. at the wreckers..
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > Daudi wrote:
> > >
> > > Ah. Yes. My wrangler is a 1987. The cherokee being parted out is early
> > > 90's I believe. I actually haven't asked because the idea just recently
> > > occured to me.
> > >
> > > Wrangler's use GM steering columns?
> > >
> > > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > > You need to give us some years and makes.
> > > >
> > > > Apparently they changed the column from the Saganaw unit every GM van,
> > > > Camaro, Chevette and pickup uses in the mid 90's to something else.
> One
> > > > person that doesn't usually have accurate info says it was in 94, but
> I
> > > > would suspect the change was with the TJ, not in the middle of the
> > > > production run of the YJ's.
> > > >
> > > > The GM units are a fast easy swap. A couple bolts under the dash, a
> > > > couple at the firewall and one spline bolt outside the firewall. You
> > > > pull and out it comes.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > Daudi wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>The adjustable steering column in my wrangler is very loose; sloppy
> down
> > > >>in the pivot, the joint. I am worried that it may come apart some day
> > > >>when driving.
> > > >>
> > > >>I've had the steering wheel come off a car when driving (long, long
> ago
> > > >>when we bought cars for $50) but that was easy to put back on. A
> > > >>separated U-joint down inside the steering column seems like it would
> be
> > > >>more difficult to arrange.
> > > >>
> > > >>I can find a steering column from a parting out cherokee. Are they
> > > >>interchangable?
There's a zillion old Jeeps running around with that setup. But I'd
really try to keep it with the stock sized box, shafts and column, it'll
probably save you time improvising, and a whole lot easier for the next
owner. There's also a big difference between passenger and Jeep steering
ratios, three turns lock to lock is about twice as fast a Jeep.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Drink wrote:
>
> I have an old tilt steering column (column shift), shaft and power
> steering gear box from a Chevy caprice (model unknown but it looked late
> 80's to very early 90's). I want to convert to power steering and the tilt
> would nice. I bought a Jeep power steering shaft.
> Overall, the column is longer than my Jeep and the shaft is much shorter
> than my stock. Does anybody know if I can use the Chevy tilt column and
> gear box in the Jeep if I have a new power steering shaft?
> o_o_o_o
> Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
> Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:407D7D8D.9F1F0A82@sympatico.ca...
> > GM uses the same Saganaw steering column so you have a large choice for
> > colors, tilt, etc. at the wreckers..
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > Daudi wrote:
> > >
> > > Ah. Yes. My wrangler is a 1987. The cherokee being parted out is early
> > > 90's I believe. I actually haven't asked because the idea just recently
> > > occured to me.
> > >
> > > Wrangler's use GM steering columns?
> > >
> > > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > > You need to give us some years and makes.
> > > >
> > > > Apparently they changed the column from the Saganaw unit every GM van,
> > > > Camaro, Chevette and pickup uses in the mid 90's to something else.
> One
> > > > person that doesn't usually have accurate info says it was in 94, but
> I
> > > > would suspect the change was with the TJ, not in the middle of the
> > > > production run of the YJ's.
> > > >
> > > > The GM units are a fast easy swap. A couple bolts under the dash, a
> > > > couple at the firewall and one spline bolt outside the firewall. You
> > > > pull and out it comes.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > Daudi wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>The adjustable steering column in my wrangler is very loose; sloppy
> down
> > > >>in the pivot, the joint. I am worried that it may come apart some day
> > > >>when driving.
> > > >>
> > > >>I've had the steering wheel come off a car when driving (long, long
> ago
> > > >>when we bought cars for $50) but that was easy to put back on. A
> > > >>separated U-joint down inside the steering column seems like it would
> be
> > > >>more difficult to arrange.
> > > >>
> > > >>I can find a steering column from a parting out cherokee. Are they
> > > >>interchangable?
#37
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Posts: n/a
Re: steering columns- cherokee to wrangler?
Hi Jim,
There's a zillion old Jeeps running around with that setup. But I'd
really try to keep it with the stock sized box, shafts and column, it'll
probably save you time improvising, and a whole lot easier for the next
owner. There's also a big difference between passenger and Jeep steering
ratios, three turns lock to lock is about twice as fast a Jeep.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Drink wrote:
>
> I have an old tilt steering column (column shift), shaft and power
> steering gear box from a Chevy caprice (model unknown but it looked late
> 80's to very early 90's). I want to convert to power steering and the tilt
> would nice. I bought a Jeep power steering shaft.
> Overall, the column is longer than my Jeep and the shaft is much shorter
> than my stock. Does anybody know if I can use the Chevy tilt column and
> gear box in the Jeep if I have a new power steering shaft?
> o_o_o_o
> Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
> Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:407D7D8D.9F1F0A82@sympatico.ca...
> > GM uses the same Saganaw steering column so you have a large choice for
> > colors, tilt, etc. at the wreckers..
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > Daudi wrote:
> > >
> > > Ah. Yes. My wrangler is a 1987. The cherokee being parted out is early
> > > 90's I believe. I actually haven't asked because the idea just recently
> > > occured to me.
> > >
> > > Wrangler's use GM steering columns?
> > >
> > > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > > You need to give us some years and makes.
> > > >
> > > > Apparently they changed the column from the Saganaw unit every GM van,
> > > > Camaro, Chevette and pickup uses in the mid 90's to something else.
> One
> > > > person that doesn't usually have accurate info says it was in 94, but
> I
> > > > would suspect the change was with the TJ, not in the middle of the
> > > > production run of the YJ's.
> > > >
> > > > The GM units are a fast easy swap. A couple bolts under the dash, a
> > > > couple at the firewall and one spline bolt outside the firewall. You
> > > > pull and out it comes.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > Daudi wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>The adjustable steering column in my wrangler is very loose; sloppy
> down
> > > >>in the pivot, the joint. I am worried that it may come apart some day
> > > >>when driving.
> > > >>
> > > >>I've had the steering wheel come off a car when driving (long, long
> ago
> > > >>when we bought cars for $50) but that was easy to put back on. A
> > > >>separated U-joint down inside the steering column seems like it would
> be
> > > >>more difficult to arrange.
> > > >>
> > > >>I can find a steering column from a parting out cherokee. Are they
> > > >>interchangable?
There's a zillion old Jeeps running around with that setup. But I'd
really try to keep it with the stock sized box, shafts and column, it'll
probably save you time improvising, and a whole lot easier for the next
owner. There's also a big difference between passenger and Jeep steering
ratios, three turns lock to lock is about twice as fast a Jeep.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Drink wrote:
>
> I have an old tilt steering column (column shift), shaft and power
> steering gear box from a Chevy caprice (model unknown but it looked late
> 80's to very early 90's). I want to convert to power steering and the tilt
> would nice. I bought a Jeep power steering shaft.
> Overall, the column is longer than my Jeep and the shaft is much shorter
> than my stock. Does anybody know if I can use the Chevy tilt column and
> gear box in the Jeep if I have a new power steering shaft?
> o_o_o_o
> Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
> Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:407D7D8D.9F1F0A82@sympatico.ca...
> > GM uses the same Saganaw steering column so you have a large choice for
> > colors, tilt, etc. at the wreckers..
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > Daudi wrote:
> > >
> > > Ah. Yes. My wrangler is a 1987. The cherokee being parted out is early
> > > 90's I believe. I actually haven't asked because the idea just recently
> > > occured to me.
> > >
> > > Wrangler's use GM steering columns?
> > >
> > > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > > You need to give us some years and makes.
> > > >
> > > > Apparently they changed the column from the Saganaw unit every GM van,
> > > > Camaro, Chevette and pickup uses in the mid 90's to something else.
> One
> > > > person that doesn't usually have accurate info says it was in 94, but
> I
> > > > would suspect the change was with the TJ, not in the middle of the
> > > > production run of the YJ's.
> > > >
> > > > The GM units are a fast easy swap. A couple bolts under the dash, a
> > > > couple at the firewall and one spline bolt outside the firewall. You
> > > > pull and out it comes.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > Daudi wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>The adjustable steering column in my wrangler is very loose; sloppy
> down
> > > >>in the pivot, the joint. I am worried that it may come apart some day
> > > >>when driving.
> > > >>
> > > >>I've had the steering wheel come off a car when driving (long, long
> ago
> > > >>when we bought cars for $50) but that was easy to put back on. A
> > > >>separated U-joint down inside the steering column seems like it would
> be
> > > >>more difficult to arrange.
> > > >>
> > > >>I can find a steering column from a parting out cherokee. Are they
> > > >>interchangable?
#38
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Posts: n/a
Re: steering columns- cherokee to wrangler?
Bill,
My manual steering box is shot and I have to replace it urgently. I'm
converting to a small block Chevy and NV4500 really soon and will convert to
power steering but don't have the pump/brackets/hoses yet. The Caprice's
steering box appears the same, only a bit longer since it's power steering.
I'll get a correct box but this is all I have right now.
Can I put in the Caprice's power steering box for now and run it like a
manual box without hurting the box or struggling without the pump's assist?
Any ideas on how to bypass the pump & reservoir? (I have a 2" body lift if
that makes a difference.)
I know steering will by fast and touchy but the manual box is just unsafe.
It's adjusted to the point that the nut barely has a thread to hang on to
and still has about 1/2 a full turn on the steering wheel of play. Deep
wheel ruts on the road make me fishtail as I steer back and forth to keep it
under control so I stay under 45mph. When I pulled out of a parking lot the
other day, something felt like it wanted to bind in the gear. I'm literally
on the verge of a "bind".
I really appreciate any advice I can get 'cause it's my daily driver 4
miles to work.
o_o_o_o
Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40819860.D2EF8586@***.net...
> Hi Jim,
> There's a zillion old Jeeps running around with that setup. But I'd
> really try to keep it with the stock sized box, shafts and column, it'll
> probably save you time improvising, and a whole lot easier for the next
> owner. There's also a big difference between passenger and Jeep steering
> ratios, three turns lock to lock is about twice as fast a Jeep.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Drink wrote:
> >
> > I have an old tilt steering column (column shift), shaft and power
> > steering gear box from a Chevy caprice (model unknown but it looked late
> > 80's to very early 90's). I want to convert to power steering and the
tilt
> > would nice. I bought a Jeep power steering shaft.
> > Overall, the column is longer than my Jeep and the shaft is much
shorter
> > than my stock. Does anybody know if I can use the Chevy tilt column and
> > gear box in the Jeep if I have a new power steering shaft?
> > o_o_o_o
> > Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
> > Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> > EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:407D7D8D.9F1F0A82@sympatico.ca...
> > > GM uses the same Saganaw steering column so you have a large choice
for
> > > colors, tilt, etc. at the wreckers..
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > > Daudi wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ah. Yes. My wrangler is a 1987. The cherokee being parted out is
early
> > > > 90's I believe. I actually haven't asked because the idea just
recently
> > > > occured to me.
> > > >
> > > > Wrangler's use GM steering columns?
> > > >
> > > > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > You need to give us some years and makes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Apparently they changed the column from the Saganaw unit every GM
van,
> > > > > Camaro, Chevette and pickup uses in the mid 90's to something
else.
> > One
> > > > > person that doesn't usually have accurate info says it was in 94,
but
> > I
> > > > > would suspect the change was with the TJ, not in the middle of the
> > > > > production run of the YJ's.
> > > > >
> > > > > The GM units are a fast easy swap. A couple bolts under the dash,
a
> > > > > couple at the firewall and one spline bolt outside the firewall.
You
> > > > > pull and out it comes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > >
> > > > > Daudi wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>The adjustable steering column in my wrangler is very loose;
sloppy
> > down
> > > > >>in the pivot, the joint. I am worried that it may come apart some
day
> > > > >>when driving.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>I've had the steering wheel come off a car when driving (long,
long
> > ago
> > > > >>when we bought cars for $50) but that was easy to put back on. A
> > > > >>separated U-joint down inside the steering column seems like it
would
> > be
> > > > >>more difficult to arrange.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>I can find a steering column from a parting out cherokee. Are they
> > > > >>interchangable?
My manual steering box is shot and I have to replace it urgently. I'm
converting to a small block Chevy and NV4500 really soon and will convert to
power steering but don't have the pump/brackets/hoses yet. The Caprice's
steering box appears the same, only a bit longer since it's power steering.
I'll get a correct box but this is all I have right now.
Can I put in the Caprice's power steering box for now and run it like a
manual box without hurting the box or struggling without the pump's assist?
Any ideas on how to bypass the pump & reservoir? (I have a 2" body lift if
that makes a difference.)
I know steering will by fast and touchy but the manual box is just unsafe.
It's adjusted to the point that the nut barely has a thread to hang on to
and still has about 1/2 a full turn on the steering wheel of play. Deep
wheel ruts on the road make me fishtail as I steer back and forth to keep it
under control so I stay under 45mph. When I pulled out of a parking lot the
other day, something felt like it wanted to bind in the gear. I'm literally
on the verge of a "bind".
I really appreciate any advice I can get 'cause it's my daily driver 4
miles to work.
o_o_o_o
Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40819860.D2EF8586@***.net...
> Hi Jim,
> There's a zillion old Jeeps running around with that setup. But I'd
> really try to keep it with the stock sized box, shafts and column, it'll
> probably save you time improvising, and a whole lot easier for the next
> owner. There's also a big difference between passenger and Jeep steering
> ratios, three turns lock to lock is about twice as fast a Jeep.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Drink wrote:
> >
> > I have an old tilt steering column (column shift), shaft and power
> > steering gear box from a Chevy caprice (model unknown but it looked late
> > 80's to very early 90's). I want to convert to power steering and the
tilt
> > would nice. I bought a Jeep power steering shaft.
> > Overall, the column is longer than my Jeep and the shaft is much
shorter
> > than my stock. Does anybody know if I can use the Chevy tilt column and
> > gear box in the Jeep if I have a new power steering shaft?
> > o_o_o_o
> > Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
> > Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> > EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:407D7D8D.9F1F0A82@sympatico.ca...
> > > GM uses the same Saganaw steering column so you have a large choice
for
> > > colors, tilt, etc. at the wreckers..
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > > Daudi wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ah. Yes. My wrangler is a 1987. The cherokee being parted out is
early
> > > > 90's I believe. I actually haven't asked because the idea just
recently
> > > > occured to me.
> > > >
> > > > Wrangler's use GM steering columns?
> > > >
> > > > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > You need to give us some years and makes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Apparently they changed the column from the Saganaw unit every GM
van,
> > > > > Camaro, Chevette and pickup uses in the mid 90's to something
else.
> > One
> > > > > person that doesn't usually have accurate info says it was in 94,
but
> > I
> > > > > would suspect the change was with the TJ, not in the middle of the
> > > > > production run of the YJ's.
> > > > >
> > > > > The GM units are a fast easy swap. A couple bolts under the dash,
a
> > > > > couple at the firewall and one spline bolt outside the firewall.
You
> > > > > pull and out it comes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > >
> > > > > Daudi wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>The adjustable steering column in my wrangler is very loose;
sloppy
> > down
> > > > >>in the pivot, the joint. I am worried that it may come apart some
day
> > > > >>when driving.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>I've had the steering wheel come off a car when driving (long,
long
> > ago
> > > > >>when we bought cars for $50) but that was easy to put back on. A
> > > > >>separated U-joint down inside the steering column seems like it
would
> > be
> > > > >>more difficult to arrange.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>I can find a steering column from a parting out cherokee. Are they
> > > > >>interchangable?
#39
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Posts: n/a
Re: steering columns- cherokee to wrangler?
Bill,
My manual steering box is shot and I have to replace it urgently. I'm
converting to a small block Chevy and NV4500 really soon and will convert to
power steering but don't have the pump/brackets/hoses yet. The Caprice's
steering box appears the same, only a bit longer since it's power steering.
I'll get a correct box but this is all I have right now.
Can I put in the Caprice's power steering box for now and run it like a
manual box without hurting the box or struggling without the pump's assist?
Any ideas on how to bypass the pump & reservoir? (I have a 2" body lift if
that makes a difference.)
I know steering will by fast and touchy but the manual box is just unsafe.
It's adjusted to the point that the nut barely has a thread to hang on to
and still has about 1/2 a full turn on the steering wheel of play. Deep
wheel ruts on the road make me fishtail as I steer back and forth to keep it
under control so I stay under 45mph. When I pulled out of a parking lot the
other day, something felt like it wanted to bind in the gear. I'm literally
on the verge of a "bind".
I really appreciate any advice I can get 'cause it's my daily driver 4
miles to work.
o_o_o_o
Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40819860.D2EF8586@***.net...
> Hi Jim,
> There's a zillion old Jeeps running around with that setup. But I'd
> really try to keep it with the stock sized box, shafts and column, it'll
> probably save you time improvising, and a whole lot easier for the next
> owner. There's also a big difference between passenger and Jeep steering
> ratios, three turns lock to lock is about twice as fast a Jeep.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Drink wrote:
> >
> > I have an old tilt steering column (column shift), shaft and power
> > steering gear box from a Chevy caprice (model unknown but it looked late
> > 80's to very early 90's). I want to convert to power steering and the
tilt
> > would nice. I bought a Jeep power steering shaft.
> > Overall, the column is longer than my Jeep and the shaft is much
shorter
> > than my stock. Does anybody know if I can use the Chevy tilt column and
> > gear box in the Jeep if I have a new power steering shaft?
> > o_o_o_o
> > Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
> > Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> > EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:407D7D8D.9F1F0A82@sympatico.ca...
> > > GM uses the same Saganaw steering column so you have a large choice
for
> > > colors, tilt, etc. at the wreckers..
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > > Daudi wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ah. Yes. My wrangler is a 1987. The cherokee being parted out is
early
> > > > 90's I believe. I actually haven't asked because the idea just
recently
> > > > occured to me.
> > > >
> > > > Wrangler's use GM steering columns?
> > > >
> > > > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > You need to give us some years and makes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Apparently they changed the column from the Saganaw unit every GM
van,
> > > > > Camaro, Chevette and pickup uses in the mid 90's to something
else.
> > One
> > > > > person that doesn't usually have accurate info says it was in 94,
but
> > I
> > > > > would suspect the change was with the TJ, not in the middle of the
> > > > > production run of the YJ's.
> > > > >
> > > > > The GM units are a fast easy swap. A couple bolts under the dash,
a
> > > > > couple at the firewall and one spline bolt outside the firewall.
You
> > > > > pull and out it comes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > >
> > > > > Daudi wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>The adjustable steering column in my wrangler is very loose;
sloppy
> > down
> > > > >>in the pivot, the joint. I am worried that it may come apart some
day
> > > > >>when driving.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>I've had the steering wheel come off a car when driving (long,
long
> > ago
> > > > >>when we bought cars for $50) but that was easy to put back on. A
> > > > >>separated U-joint down inside the steering column seems like it
would
> > be
> > > > >>more difficult to arrange.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>I can find a steering column from a parting out cherokee. Are they
> > > > >>interchangable?
My manual steering box is shot and I have to replace it urgently. I'm
converting to a small block Chevy and NV4500 really soon and will convert to
power steering but don't have the pump/brackets/hoses yet. The Caprice's
steering box appears the same, only a bit longer since it's power steering.
I'll get a correct box but this is all I have right now.
Can I put in the Caprice's power steering box for now and run it like a
manual box without hurting the box or struggling without the pump's assist?
Any ideas on how to bypass the pump & reservoir? (I have a 2" body lift if
that makes a difference.)
I know steering will by fast and touchy but the manual box is just unsafe.
It's adjusted to the point that the nut barely has a thread to hang on to
and still has about 1/2 a full turn on the steering wheel of play. Deep
wheel ruts on the road make me fishtail as I steer back and forth to keep it
under control so I stay under 45mph. When I pulled out of a parking lot the
other day, something felt like it wanted to bind in the gear. I'm literally
on the verge of a "bind".
I really appreciate any advice I can get 'cause it's my daily driver 4
miles to work.
o_o_o_o
Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40819860.D2EF8586@***.net...
> Hi Jim,
> There's a zillion old Jeeps running around with that setup. But I'd
> really try to keep it with the stock sized box, shafts and column, it'll
> probably save you time improvising, and a whole lot easier for the next
> owner. There's also a big difference between passenger and Jeep steering
> ratios, three turns lock to lock is about twice as fast a Jeep.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Drink wrote:
> >
> > I have an old tilt steering column (column shift), shaft and power
> > steering gear box from a Chevy caprice (model unknown but it looked late
> > 80's to very early 90's). I want to convert to power steering and the
tilt
> > would nice. I bought a Jeep power steering shaft.
> > Overall, the column is longer than my Jeep and the shaft is much
shorter
> > than my stock. Does anybody know if I can use the Chevy tilt column and
> > gear box in the Jeep if I have a new power steering shaft?
> > o_o_o_o
> > Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
> > Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> > EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:407D7D8D.9F1F0A82@sympatico.ca...
> > > GM uses the same Saganaw steering column so you have a large choice
for
> > > colors, tilt, etc. at the wreckers..
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > > Daudi wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ah. Yes. My wrangler is a 1987. The cherokee being parted out is
early
> > > > 90's I believe. I actually haven't asked because the idea just
recently
> > > > occured to me.
> > > >
> > > > Wrangler's use GM steering columns?
> > > >
> > > > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > You need to give us some years and makes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Apparently they changed the column from the Saganaw unit every GM
van,
> > > > > Camaro, Chevette and pickup uses in the mid 90's to something
else.
> > One
> > > > > person that doesn't usually have accurate info says it was in 94,
but
> > I
> > > > > would suspect the change was with the TJ, not in the middle of the
> > > > > production run of the YJ's.
> > > > >
> > > > > The GM units are a fast easy swap. A couple bolts under the dash,
a
> > > > > couple at the firewall and one spline bolt outside the firewall.
You
> > > > > pull and out it comes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > >
> > > > > Daudi wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>The adjustable steering column in my wrangler is very loose;
sloppy
> > down
> > > > >>in the pivot, the joint. I am worried that it may come apart some
day
> > > > >>when driving.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>I've had the steering wheel come off a car when driving (long,
long
> > ago
> > > > >>when we bought cars for $50) but that was easy to put back on. A
> > > > >>separated U-joint down inside the steering column seems like it
would
> > be
> > > > >>more difficult to arrange.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>I can find a steering column from a parting out cherokee. Are they
> > > > >>interchangable?
#40
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Posts: n/a
Re: steering columns- cherokee to wrangler?
Bill,
My manual steering box is shot and I have to replace it urgently. I'm
converting to a small block Chevy and NV4500 really soon and will convert to
power steering but don't have the pump/brackets/hoses yet. The Caprice's
steering box appears the same, only a bit longer since it's power steering.
I'll get a correct box but this is all I have right now.
Can I put in the Caprice's power steering box for now and run it like a
manual box without hurting the box or struggling without the pump's assist?
Any ideas on how to bypass the pump & reservoir? (I have a 2" body lift if
that makes a difference.)
I know steering will by fast and touchy but the manual box is just unsafe.
It's adjusted to the point that the nut barely has a thread to hang on to
and still has about 1/2 a full turn on the steering wheel of play. Deep
wheel ruts on the road make me fishtail as I steer back and forth to keep it
under control so I stay under 45mph. When I pulled out of a parking lot the
other day, something felt like it wanted to bind in the gear. I'm literally
on the verge of a "bind".
I really appreciate any advice I can get 'cause it's my daily driver 4
miles to work.
o_o_o_o
Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40819860.D2EF8586@***.net...
> Hi Jim,
> There's a zillion old Jeeps running around with that setup. But I'd
> really try to keep it with the stock sized box, shafts and column, it'll
> probably save you time improvising, and a whole lot easier for the next
> owner. There's also a big difference between passenger and Jeep steering
> ratios, three turns lock to lock is about twice as fast a Jeep.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Drink wrote:
> >
> > I have an old tilt steering column (column shift), shaft and power
> > steering gear box from a Chevy caprice (model unknown but it looked late
> > 80's to very early 90's). I want to convert to power steering and the
tilt
> > would nice. I bought a Jeep power steering shaft.
> > Overall, the column is longer than my Jeep and the shaft is much
shorter
> > than my stock. Does anybody know if I can use the Chevy tilt column and
> > gear box in the Jeep if I have a new power steering shaft?
> > o_o_o_o
> > Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
> > Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> > EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:407D7D8D.9F1F0A82@sympatico.ca...
> > > GM uses the same Saganaw steering column so you have a large choice
for
> > > colors, tilt, etc. at the wreckers..
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > > Daudi wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ah. Yes. My wrangler is a 1987. The cherokee being parted out is
early
> > > > 90's I believe. I actually haven't asked because the idea just
recently
> > > > occured to me.
> > > >
> > > > Wrangler's use GM steering columns?
> > > >
> > > > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > You need to give us some years and makes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Apparently they changed the column from the Saganaw unit every GM
van,
> > > > > Camaro, Chevette and pickup uses in the mid 90's to something
else.
> > One
> > > > > person that doesn't usually have accurate info says it was in 94,
but
> > I
> > > > > would suspect the change was with the TJ, not in the middle of the
> > > > > production run of the YJ's.
> > > > >
> > > > > The GM units are a fast easy swap. A couple bolts under the dash,
a
> > > > > couple at the firewall and one spline bolt outside the firewall.
You
> > > > > pull and out it comes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > >
> > > > > Daudi wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>The adjustable steering column in my wrangler is very loose;
sloppy
> > down
> > > > >>in the pivot, the joint. I am worried that it may come apart some
day
> > > > >>when driving.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>I've had the steering wheel come off a car when driving (long,
long
> > ago
> > > > >>when we bought cars for $50) but that was easy to put back on. A
> > > > >>separated U-joint down inside the steering column seems like it
would
> > be
> > > > >>more difficult to arrange.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>I can find a steering column from a parting out cherokee. Are they
> > > > >>interchangable?
My manual steering box is shot and I have to replace it urgently. I'm
converting to a small block Chevy and NV4500 really soon and will convert to
power steering but don't have the pump/brackets/hoses yet. The Caprice's
steering box appears the same, only a bit longer since it's power steering.
I'll get a correct box but this is all I have right now.
Can I put in the Caprice's power steering box for now and run it like a
manual box without hurting the box or struggling without the pump's assist?
Any ideas on how to bypass the pump & reservoir? (I have a 2" body lift if
that makes a difference.)
I know steering will by fast and touchy but the manual box is just unsafe.
It's adjusted to the point that the nut barely has a thread to hang on to
and still has about 1/2 a full turn on the steering wheel of play. Deep
wheel ruts on the road make me fishtail as I steer back and forth to keep it
under control so I stay under 45mph. When I pulled out of a parking lot the
other day, something felt like it wanted to bind in the gear. I'm literally
on the verge of a "bind".
I really appreciate any advice I can get 'cause it's my daily driver 4
miles to work.
o_o_o_o
Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40819860.D2EF8586@***.net...
> Hi Jim,
> There's a zillion old Jeeps running around with that setup. But I'd
> really try to keep it with the stock sized box, shafts and column, it'll
> probably save you time improvising, and a whole lot easier for the next
> owner. There's also a big difference between passenger and Jeep steering
> ratios, three turns lock to lock is about twice as fast a Jeep.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Drink wrote:
> >
> > I have an old tilt steering column (column shift), shaft and power
> > steering gear box from a Chevy caprice (model unknown but it looked late
> > 80's to very early 90's). I want to convert to power steering and the
tilt
> > would nice. I bought a Jeep power steering shaft.
> > Overall, the column is longer than my Jeep and the shaft is much
shorter
> > than my stock. Does anybody know if I can use the Chevy tilt column and
> > gear box in the Jeep if I have a new power steering shaft?
> > o_o_o_o
> > Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
> > Jim, WP3JQ |ŻŻŻL --O|||||||O-
> > ()_)Ż()_) ŻŻŻŻŻ )_)
> > EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:407D7D8D.9F1F0A82@sympatico.ca...
> > > GM uses the same Saganaw steering column so you have a large choice
for
> > > colors, tilt, etc. at the wreckers..
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > > Daudi wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ah. Yes. My wrangler is a 1987. The cherokee being parted out is
early
> > > > 90's I believe. I actually haven't asked because the idea just
recently
> > > > occured to me.
> > > >
> > > > Wrangler's use GM steering columns?
> > > >
> > > > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > You need to give us some years and makes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Apparently they changed the column from the Saganaw unit every GM
van,
> > > > > Camaro, Chevette and pickup uses in the mid 90's to something
else.
> > One
> > > > > person that doesn't usually have accurate info says it was in 94,
but
> > I
> > > > > would suspect the change was with the TJ, not in the middle of the
> > > > > production run of the YJ's.
> > > > >
> > > > > The GM units are a fast easy swap. A couple bolts under the dash,
a
> > > > > couple at the firewall and one spline bolt outside the firewall.
You
> > > > > pull and out it comes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > >
> > > > > Daudi wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>The adjustable steering column in my wrangler is very loose;
sloppy
> > down
> > > > >>in the pivot, the joint. I am worried that it may come apart some
day
> > > > >>when driving.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>I've had the steering wheel come off a car when driving (long,
long
> > ago
> > > > >>when we bought cars for $50) but that was easy to put back on. A
> > > > >>separated U-joint down inside the steering column seems like it
would
> > be
> > > > >>more difficult to arrange.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>I can find a steering column from a parting out cherokee. Are they
> > > > >>interchangable?