Steering box removal
#11
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Re: Steering box removal
I've read some write ups and it doens't seem that difficult to replace the
seals. I'm more worried about getting the damn thing out and back in.
Allen
"belowme" <dontbotherme@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Yep, you ought to just take the pitman arm off, you will need to anyway if
> you are doing a rebuild. You sure you are up to the job? Probably ought
to
> just get the seal kit for the particular part of the box that is leaking,
> and replace that alone. You take that whole thing apart, and you might be
> there a week trying to get it working again. Or, go with a reman.
>
>
> Jerry
>
>
> <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:4Cfub.10050$uw5.4064@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > How difficult is it to get this thing out of a CJ7? I think I have to
> remove
> > the pitman arm....but at what point..where it connects the the tie rod
or
> > the box? And what is there to removing it from the steering shaft?
> > Gotta rebuild this thing...leaking like crazy!!!!
> > Thanks!
> > Allen
> > 83 CJ7 (Power steering)
> >
> >
>
>
seals. I'm more worried about getting the damn thing out and back in.
Allen
"belowme" <dontbotherme@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:3fb98854_2@newspeer2.tds.net...
> Yep, you ought to just take the pitman arm off, you will need to anyway if
> you are doing a rebuild. You sure you are up to the job? Probably ought
to
> just get the seal kit for the particular part of the box that is leaking,
> and replace that alone. You take that whole thing apart, and you might be
> there a week trying to get it working again. Or, go with a reman.
>
>
> Jerry
>
>
> <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:4Cfub.10050$uw5.4064@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > How difficult is it to get this thing out of a CJ7? I think I have to
> remove
> > the pitman arm....but at what point..where it connects the the tie rod
or
> > the box? And what is there to removing it from the steering shaft?
> > Gotta rebuild this thing...leaking like crazy!!!!
> > Thanks!
> > Allen
> > 83 CJ7 (Power steering)
> >
> >
>
>
#12
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Re: Steering box removal
I've read some write ups and it doens't seem that difficult to replace the
seals. I'm more worried about getting the damn thing out and back in.
Allen
"belowme" <dontbotherme@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:3fb98854_2@newspeer2.tds.net...
> Yep, you ought to just take the pitman arm off, you will need to anyway if
> you are doing a rebuild. You sure you are up to the job? Probably ought
to
> just get the seal kit for the particular part of the box that is leaking,
> and replace that alone. You take that whole thing apart, and you might be
> there a week trying to get it working again. Or, go with a reman.
>
>
> Jerry
>
>
> <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:4Cfub.10050$uw5.4064@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > How difficult is it to get this thing out of a CJ7? I think I have to
> remove
> > the pitman arm....but at what point..where it connects the the tie rod
or
> > the box? And what is there to removing it from the steering shaft?
> > Gotta rebuild this thing...leaking like crazy!!!!
> > Thanks!
> > Allen
> > 83 CJ7 (Power steering)
> >
> >
>
>
seals. I'm more worried about getting the damn thing out and back in.
Allen
"belowme" <dontbotherme@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:3fb98854_2@newspeer2.tds.net...
> Yep, you ought to just take the pitman arm off, you will need to anyway if
> you are doing a rebuild. You sure you are up to the job? Probably ought
to
> just get the seal kit for the particular part of the box that is leaking,
> and replace that alone. You take that whole thing apart, and you might be
> there a week trying to get it working again. Or, go with a reman.
>
>
> Jerry
>
>
> <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:4Cfub.10050$uw5.4064@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > How difficult is it to get this thing out of a CJ7? I think I have to
> remove
> > the pitman arm....but at what point..where it connects the the tie rod
or
> > the box? And what is there to removing it from the steering shaft?
> > Gotta rebuild this thing...leaking like crazy!!!!
> > Thanks!
> > Allen
> > 83 CJ7 (Power steering)
> >
> >
>
>
#13
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Re: Steering box removal
I've read some write ups and it doens't seem that difficult to replace the
seals. I'm more worried about getting the damn thing out and back in.
Allen
"belowme" <dontbotherme@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:3fb98854_2@newspeer2.tds.net...
> Yep, you ought to just take the pitman arm off, you will need to anyway if
> you are doing a rebuild. You sure you are up to the job? Probably ought
to
> just get the seal kit for the particular part of the box that is leaking,
> and replace that alone. You take that whole thing apart, and you might be
> there a week trying to get it working again. Or, go with a reman.
>
>
> Jerry
>
>
> <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:4Cfub.10050$uw5.4064@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > How difficult is it to get this thing out of a CJ7? I think I have to
> remove
> > the pitman arm....but at what point..where it connects the the tie rod
or
> > the box? And what is there to removing it from the steering shaft?
> > Gotta rebuild this thing...leaking like crazy!!!!
> > Thanks!
> > Allen
> > 83 CJ7 (Power steering)
> >
> >
>
>
seals. I'm more worried about getting the damn thing out and back in.
Allen
"belowme" <dontbotherme@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:3fb98854_2@newspeer2.tds.net...
> Yep, you ought to just take the pitman arm off, you will need to anyway if
> you are doing a rebuild. You sure you are up to the job? Probably ought
to
> just get the seal kit for the particular part of the box that is leaking,
> and replace that alone. You take that whole thing apart, and you might be
> there a week trying to get it working again. Or, go with a reman.
>
>
> Jerry
>
>
> <ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:4Cfub.10050$uw5.4064@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> > How difficult is it to get this thing out of a CJ7? I think I have to
> remove
> > the pitman arm....but at what point..where it connects the the tie rod
or
> > the box? And what is there to removing it from the steering shaft?
> > Gotta rebuild this thing...leaking like crazy!!!!
> > Thanks!
> > Allen
> > 83 CJ7 (Power steering)
> >
> >
>
>
#14
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Re: Steering box removal
I did just get 33s and then it started leaking! What do you mean about the
surface being bad?? With that napa price,...is there a core charge??
Allen
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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> belowme did pass the time by typing:
> > Yep, you ought to just take the pitman arm off, you will need to anyway
if
> > you are doing a rebuild. You sure you are up to the job? Probably
ought to
> > just get the seal kit for the particular part of the box that is
leaking,
> > and replace that alone. You take that whole thing apart, and you might
be
> > there a week trying to get it working again. Or, go with a reman.
>
> using www.napaonline.com
>
> http://tinyurl.com/vg2r
> napaonline, part number NSP276534, PS gear box, $191.99
> 7181, major seals kit, $33.49
>
> Keep in mind that if the surface is bad new seals will just last
> a short time. If you have larger tires it might be worth getting
> a more powerfull box. Not sure of what part that would be though.
>
> > ABanks5 wrote...
> >> How difficult is it to get this thing out of a CJ7? I think I have to
remove
> >> the pitman arm....but at what point..where it connects the the tie rod
or
> >> the box? And what is there to removing it from the steering shaft?
> >> Gotta rebuild this thing...leaking like crazy!!!!
> >> Thanks!
> >> Allen
> >> 83 CJ7 (Power steering)
>
>
>
surface being bad?? With that napa price,...is there a core charge??
Allen
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:x%fub.6955$SV2.1885@okepread01...
> belowme did pass the time by typing:
> > Yep, you ought to just take the pitman arm off, you will need to anyway
if
> > you are doing a rebuild. You sure you are up to the job? Probably
ought to
> > just get the seal kit for the particular part of the box that is
leaking,
> > and replace that alone. You take that whole thing apart, and you might
be
> > there a week trying to get it working again. Or, go with a reman.
>
> using www.napaonline.com
>
> http://tinyurl.com/vg2r
> napaonline, part number NSP276534, PS gear box, $191.99
> 7181, major seals kit, $33.49
>
> Keep in mind that if the surface is bad new seals will just last
> a short time. If you have larger tires it might be worth getting
> a more powerfull box. Not sure of what part that would be though.
>
> > ABanks5 wrote...
> >> How difficult is it to get this thing out of a CJ7? I think I have to
remove
> >> the pitman arm....but at what point..where it connects the the tie rod
or
> >> the box? And what is there to removing it from the steering shaft?
> >> Gotta rebuild this thing...leaking like crazy!!!!
> >> Thanks!
> >> Allen
> >> 83 CJ7 (Power steering)
>
>
>
#15
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Re: Steering box removal
I did just get 33s and then it started leaking! What do you mean about the
surface being bad?? With that napa price,...is there a core charge??
Allen
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:x%fub.6955$SV2.1885@okepread01...
> belowme did pass the time by typing:
> > Yep, you ought to just take the pitman arm off, you will need to anyway
if
> > you are doing a rebuild. You sure you are up to the job? Probably
ought to
> > just get the seal kit for the particular part of the box that is
leaking,
> > and replace that alone. You take that whole thing apart, and you might
be
> > there a week trying to get it working again. Or, go with a reman.
>
> using www.napaonline.com
>
> http://tinyurl.com/vg2r
> napaonline, part number NSP276534, PS gear box, $191.99
> 7181, major seals kit, $33.49
>
> Keep in mind that if the surface is bad new seals will just last
> a short time. If you have larger tires it might be worth getting
> a more powerfull box. Not sure of what part that would be though.
>
> > ABanks5 wrote...
> >> How difficult is it to get this thing out of a CJ7? I think I have to
remove
> >> the pitman arm....but at what point..where it connects the the tie rod
or
> >> the box? And what is there to removing it from the steering shaft?
> >> Gotta rebuild this thing...leaking like crazy!!!!
> >> Thanks!
> >> Allen
> >> 83 CJ7 (Power steering)
>
>
>
surface being bad?? With that napa price,...is there a core charge??
Allen
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:x%fub.6955$SV2.1885@okepread01...
> belowme did pass the time by typing:
> > Yep, you ought to just take the pitman arm off, you will need to anyway
if
> > you are doing a rebuild. You sure you are up to the job? Probably
ought to
> > just get the seal kit for the particular part of the box that is
leaking,
> > and replace that alone. You take that whole thing apart, and you might
be
> > there a week trying to get it working again. Or, go with a reman.
>
> using www.napaonline.com
>
> http://tinyurl.com/vg2r
> napaonline, part number NSP276534, PS gear box, $191.99
> 7181, major seals kit, $33.49
>
> Keep in mind that if the surface is bad new seals will just last
> a short time. If you have larger tires it might be worth getting
> a more powerfull box. Not sure of what part that would be though.
>
> > ABanks5 wrote...
> >> How difficult is it to get this thing out of a CJ7? I think I have to
remove
> >> the pitman arm....but at what point..where it connects the the tie rod
or
> >> the box? And what is there to removing it from the steering shaft?
> >> Gotta rebuild this thing...leaking like crazy!!!!
> >> Thanks!
> >> Allen
> >> 83 CJ7 (Power steering)
>
>
>
#16
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Re: Steering box removal
I did just get 33s and then it started leaking! What do you mean about the
surface being bad?? With that napa price,...is there a core charge??
Allen
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:x%fub.6955$SV2.1885@okepread01...
> belowme did pass the time by typing:
> > Yep, you ought to just take the pitman arm off, you will need to anyway
if
> > you are doing a rebuild. You sure you are up to the job? Probably
ought to
> > just get the seal kit for the particular part of the box that is
leaking,
> > and replace that alone. You take that whole thing apart, and you might
be
> > there a week trying to get it working again. Or, go with a reman.
>
> using www.napaonline.com
>
> http://tinyurl.com/vg2r
> napaonline, part number NSP276534, PS gear box, $191.99
> 7181, major seals kit, $33.49
>
> Keep in mind that if the surface is bad new seals will just last
> a short time. If you have larger tires it might be worth getting
> a more powerfull box. Not sure of what part that would be though.
>
> > ABanks5 wrote...
> >> How difficult is it to get this thing out of a CJ7? I think I have to
remove
> >> the pitman arm....but at what point..where it connects the the tie rod
or
> >> the box? And what is there to removing it from the steering shaft?
> >> Gotta rebuild this thing...leaking like crazy!!!!
> >> Thanks!
> >> Allen
> >> 83 CJ7 (Power steering)
>
>
>
surface being bad?? With that napa price,...is there a core charge??
Allen
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:x%fub.6955$SV2.1885@okepread01...
> belowme did pass the time by typing:
> > Yep, you ought to just take the pitman arm off, you will need to anyway
if
> > you are doing a rebuild. You sure you are up to the job? Probably
ought to
> > just get the seal kit for the particular part of the box that is
leaking,
> > and replace that alone. You take that whole thing apart, and you might
be
> > there a week trying to get it working again. Or, go with a reman.
>
> using www.napaonline.com
>
> http://tinyurl.com/vg2r
> napaonline, part number NSP276534, PS gear box, $191.99
> 7181, major seals kit, $33.49
>
> Keep in mind that if the surface is bad new seals will just last
> a short time. If you have larger tires it might be worth getting
> a more powerfull box. Not sure of what part that would be though.
>
> > ABanks5 wrote...
> >> How difficult is it to get this thing out of a CJ7? I think I have to
remove
> >> the pitman arm....but at what point..where it connects the the tie rod
or
> >> the box? And what is there to removing it from the steering shaft?
> >> Gotta rebuild this thing...leaking like crazy!!!!
> >> Thanks!
> >> Allen
> >> 83 CJ7 (Power steering)
>
>
>
#17
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Re: Steering box removal
ABanks5 did pass the time by typing:
> I did just get 33s and then it started leaking! What do you mean about the
> surface being bad?? With that napa price,...is there a core charge??
> Allen
Sometimes when seals go bad the metal around the shaft can get scraped up.
It's not common and depends a lot on how bad the seal/bushing is.
With Napa there is almost always a core charge. You get that back when they
get your old part. Core charges depend on how much demand there is for the
reman parts. For example, the core charge on my distributor (80$) was about
75$. Guess they wanted the core back badly.
with 33s you probably should consider a stronger box. I'm not sure about your
application but on some jeeps it was a good idea to put additional bracing on
the steering box because it put too much stress on that part of the frame.
--
DougW
> I did just get 33s and then it started leaking! What do you mean about the
> surface being bad?? With that napa price,...is there a core charge??
> Allen
Sometimes when seals go bad the metal around the shaft can get scraped up.
It's not common and depends a lot on how bad the seal/bushing is.
With Napa there is almost always a core charge. You get that back when they
get your old part. Core charges depend on how much demand there is for the
reman parts. For example, the core charge on my distributor (80$) was about
75$. Guess they wanted the core back badly.
with 33s you probably should consider a stronger box. I'm not sure about your
application but on some jeeps it was a good idea to put additional bracing on
the steering box because it put too much stress on that part of the frame.
--
DougW
#18
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Re: Steering box removal
ABanks5 did pass the time by typing:
> I did just get 33s and then it started leaking! What do you mean about the
> surface being bad?? With that napa price,...is there a core charge??
> Allen
Sometimes when seals go bad the metal around the shaft can get scraped up.
It's not common and depends a lot on how bad the seal/bushing is.
With Napa there is almost always a core charge. You get that back when they
get your old part. Core charges depend on how much demand there is for the
reman parts. For example, the core charge on my distributor (80$) was about
75$. Guess they wanted the core back badly.
with 33s you probably should consider a stronger box. I'm not sure about your
application but on some jeeps it was a good idea to put additional bracing on
the steering box because it put too much stress on that part of the frame.
--
DougW
> I did just get 33s and then it started leaking! What do you mean about the
> surface being bad?? With that napa price,...is there a core charge??
> Allen
Sometimes when seals go bad the metal around the shaft can get scraped up.
It's not common and depends a lot on how bad the seal/bushing is.
With Napa there is almost always a core charge. You get that back when they
get your old part. Core charges depend on how much demand there is for the
reman parts. For example, the core charge on my distributor (80$) was about
75$. Guess they wanted the core back badly.
with 33s you probably should consider a stronger box. I'm not sure about your
application but on some jeeps it was a good idea to put additional bracing on
the steering box because it put too much stress on that part of the frame.
--
DougW
#19
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Re: Steering box removal
ABanks5 did pass the time by typing:
> I did just get 33s and then it started leaking! What do you mean about the
> surface being bad?? With that napa price,...is there a core charge??
> Allen
Sometimes when seals go bad the metal around the shaft can get scraped up.
It's not common and depends a lot on how bad the seal/bushing is.
With Napa there is almost always a core charge. You get that back when they
get your old part. Core charges depend on how much demand there is for the
reman parts. For example, the core charge on my distributor (80$) was about
75$. Guess they wanted the core back badly.
with 33s you probably should consider a stronger box. I'm not sure about your
application but on some jeeps it was a good idea to put additional bracing on
the steering box because it put too much stress on that part of the frame.
--
DougW
> I did just get 33s and then it started leaking! What do you mean about the
> surface being bad?? With that napa price,...is there a core charge??
> Allen
Sometimes when seals go bad the metal around the shaft can get scraped up.
It's not common and depends a lot on how bad the seal/bushing is.
With Napa there is almost always a core charge. You get that back when they
get your old part. Core charges depend on how much demand there is for the
reman parts. For example, the core charge on my distributor (80$) was about
75$. Guess they wanted the core back badly.
with 33s you probably should consider a stronger box. I'm not sure about your
application but on some jeeps it was a good idea to put additional bracing on
the steering box because it put too much stress on that part of the frame.
--
DougW
#20
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Re: Steering box removal
You need to remove the pitman arm at the gear box, and need a puller to get
it off. Watch for seized bolts at the frame, the weld nuts broke off on a
couple of mine. Then there is the hoses... they can be seized also. Take
the steering shaft loose at the firewall first. You may need to collapse
the shaft... if so it has to be heated in the middle to melt the glue.
There is a snap ring inside the gearbox collar that holds the steering shaft
boot.
I considered rebuilding mine until saw the number of parts in the rebuild
kit ($40)... dozens of o-rings, seals and washers. I went with a re-man box
from Advance Auto... ~$170 with core exchange Worth the $130 difference,
IMHO.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7, 258 CID
35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
4.56 D30-D44 SOA
D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
LockRight F&R
<ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4Cfub.10050$uw5.4064@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> How difficult is it to get this thing out of a CJ7? I think I have to
remove
> the pitman arm....but at what point..where it connects the the tie rod or
> the box? And what is there to removing it from the steering shaft?
> Gotta rebuild this thing...leaking like crazy!!!!
> Thanks!
> Allen
> 83 CJ7 (Power steering)
>
>
it off. Watch for seized bolts at the frame, the weld nuts broke off on a
couple of mine. Then there is the hoses... they can be seized also. Take
the steering shaft loose at the firewall first. You may need to collapse
the shaft... if so it has to be heated in the middle to melt the glue.
There is a snap ring inside the gearbox collar that holds the steering shaft
boot.
I considered rebuilding mine until saw the number of parts in the rebuild
kit ($40)... dozens of o-rings, seals and washers. I went with a re-man box
from Advance Auto... ~$170 with core exchange Worth the $130 difference,
IMHO.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7, 258 CID
35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
4.56 D30-D44 SOA
D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
LockRight F&R
<ABanks5@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4Cfub.10050$uw5.4064@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> How difficult is it to get this thing out of a CJ7? I think I have to
remove
> the pitman arm....but at what point..where it connects the the tie rod or
> the box? And what is there to removing it from the steering shaft?
> Gotta rebuild this thing...leaking like crazy!!!!
> Thanks!
> Allen
> 83 CJ7 (Power steering)
>
>