Re: So Cal Jeep Trail Recomendstions
 

There's a short cut that saves those going east bond on I-8 going
to Calexico on the border with mexico that usually kills ten or so on
the first hot day of summer. If you have a flat tire, your dead in the
time it takes to change to the spare. I remember because one of those
days would Memorial Day when I'd drive the long was around going to San
Felipe, Baja Ha-Ha.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Lon wrote:
>
> Sitting inside a vehicle in the desert will literally bake you. As for
> passersby, those tend to be measured in millicoyotes per millenium. And
> if you get way out of the typical tracks in a canyon somewhere, rescuers
> could be within half a mile of you and you'd be lucky to know it.

Re: So Cal Jeep Trail Recomendstions
 

There's a short cut that saves those going east bond on I-8 going
to Calexico on the border with mexico that usually kills ten or so on
the first hot day of summer. If you have a flat tire, your dead in the
time it takes to change to the spare. I remember because one of those
days would Memorial Day when I'd drive the long was around going to San
Felipe, Baja Ha-Ha.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Lon wrote:
>
> Sitting inside a vehicle in the desert will literally bake you. As for
> passersby, those tend to be measured in millicoyotes per millenium. And
> if you get way out of the typical tracks in a canyon somewhere, rescuers
> could be within half a mile of you and you'd be lucky to know it.

Re: So Cal Jeep Trail Recomendstions
 

There's a short cut that saves those going east bond on I-8 going
to Calexico on the border with mexico that usually kills ten or so on
the first hot day of summer. If you have a flat tire, your dead in the
time it takes to change to the spare. I remember because one of those
days would Memorial Day when I'd drive the long was around going to San
Felipe, Baja Ha-Ha.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Lon wrote:
>
> Sitting inside a vehicle in the desert will literally bake you. As for
> passersby, those tend to be measured in millicoyotes per millenium. And
> if you get way out of the typical tracks in a canyon somewhere, rescuers
> could be within half a mile of you and you'd be lucky to know it.

Re: So Cal Jeep Trail Recomendstions
 

I've seen what happens to alleged professionals caught outside without
shade or water. Not pretty.

L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:

> There's a short cut that saves those going east bond on I-8 going
> to Calexico on the border with mexico that usually kills ten or so on
> the first hot day of summer. If you have a flat tire, your dead in the
> time it takes to change to the spare. I remember because one of those
> days would Memorial Day when I'd drive the long was around going to San
> Felipe, Baja Ha-Ha.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Lon wrote:
>
>>Sitting inside a vehicle in the desert will literally bake you. As for
>>passersby, those tend to be measured in millicoyotes per millenium. And
>>if you get way out of the typical tracks in a canyon somewhere, rescuers
>>could be within half a mile of you and you'd be lucky to know it.

Re: So Cal Jeep Trail Recomendstions
 

I've seen what happens to alleged professionals caught outside without
shade or water. Not pretty.

L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:

> There's a short cut that saves those going east bond on I-8 going
> to Calexico on the border with mexico that usually kills ten or so on
> the first hot day of summer. If you have a flat tire, your dead in the
> time it takes to change to the spare. I remember because one of those
> days would Memorial Day when I'd drive the long was around going to San
> Felipe, Baja Ha-Ha.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Lon wrote:
>
>>Sitting inside a vehicle in the desert will literally bake you. As for
>>passersby, those tend to be measured in millicoyotes per millenium. And
>>if you get way out of the typical tracks in a canyon somewhere, rescuers
>>could be within half a mile of you and you'd be lucky to know it.

Re: So Cal Jeep Trail Recomendstions
 

I've seen what happens to alleged professionals caught outside without
shade or water. Not pretty.

L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:

> There's a short cut that saves those going east bond on I-8 going
> to Calexico on the border with mexico that usually kills ten or so on
> the first hot day of summer. If you have a flat tire, your dead in the
> time it takes to change to the spare. I remember because one of those
> days would Memorial Day when I'd drive the long was around going to San
> Felipe, Baja Ha-Ha.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Lon wrote:
>
>>Sitting inside a vehicle in the desert will literally bake you. As for
>>passersby, those tend to be measured in millicoyotes per millenium. And
>>if you get way out of the typical tracks in a canyon somewhere, rescuers
>>could be within half a mile of you and you'd be lucky to know it.

Solo Desert Breakdown = Death?
 

Lon wrote:
> Mark proclaimed:
> > Really? Stuck rig is a death sentence in hot weather? How about just
> > sittin' it out for a few days (assuming you have lots of water) . . .
> >
> Sitting inside a vehicle in the desert will literally bake you. As for
> passersby, those tend to be measured in millicoyotes per millenium. And
> if you get way out of the typical tracks in a canyon somewhere, rescuers
> could be within half a mile of you and you'd be lucky to know it.

I might suggest exiting your vehicle using the *door* feature and
finding (or creating) a shady spot should be the first order of
business. And getting "way out of the typical tracks in a canyon"
alone without being specific in your trip plan is asking for trouble;
staying on popular trails means passersby is a real possibility.

Concerning rescuers, you're thinking two dimensionally. Unlike
forested terrain, the desert is open and visibility is usually
excellent, rescuers could be a half a mile *above* you, and you'd know
it by seeing and hearing their CAP airplane. Forgot to mention a
signal mirror and international orange tarp should be in your emergency
kit; become as visible as possible.

You and Bill (bless his heart) are setting up a strawman, I don't deny
a complete nitwit is at risk of dying in a stuck vehicle incident, I'm
just saying that a modicum of common sense reduces it to an unpleasant
experience.

Solo Desert Breakdown = Death?
 

Lon wrote:
> Mark proclaimed:
> > Really? Stuck rig is a death sentence in hot weather? How about just
> > sittin' it out for a few days (assuming you have lots of water) . . .
> >
> Sitting inside a vehicle in the desert will literally bake you. As for
> passersby, those tend to be measured in millicoyotes per millenium. And
> if you get way out of the typical tracks in a canyon somewhere, rescuers
> could be within half a mile of you and you'd be lucky to know it.

I might suggest exiting your vehicle using the *door* feature and
finding (or creating) a shady spot should be the first order of
business. And getting "way out of the typical tracks in a canyon"
alone without being specific in your trip plan is asking for trouble;
staying on popular trails means passersby is a real possibility.

Concerning rescuers, you're thinking two dimensionally. Unlike
forested terrain, the desert is open and visibility is usually
excellent, rescuers could be a half a mile *above* you, and you'd know
it by seeing and hearing their CAP airplane. Forgot to mention a
signal mirror and international orange tarp should be in your emergency
kit; become as visible as possible.

You and Bill (bless his heart) are setting up a strawman, I don't deny
a complete nitwit is at risk of dying in a stuck vehicle incident, I'm
just saying that a modicum of common sense reduces it to an unpleasant
experience.

Solo Desert Breakdown = Death?
 

Lon wrote:
> Mark proclaimed:
> > Really? Stuck rig is a death sentence in hot weather? How about just
> > sittin' it out for a few days (assuming you have lots of water) . . .
> >
> Sitting inside a vehicle in the desert will literally bake you. As for
> passersby, those tend to be measured in millicoyotes per millenium. And
> if you get way out of the typical tracks in a canyon somewhere, rescuers
> could be within half a mile of you and you'd be lucky to know it.

I might suggest exiting your vehicle using the *door* feature and
finding (or creating) a shady spot should be the first order of
business. And getting "way out of the typical tracks in a canyon"
alone without being specific in your trip plan is asking for trouble;
staying on popular trails means passersby is a real possibility.

Concerning rescuers, you're thinking two dimensionally. Unlike
forested terrain, the desert is open and visibility is usually
excellent, rescuers could be a half a mile *above* you, and you'd know
it by seeing and hearing their CAP airplane. Forgot to mention a
signal mirror and international orange tarp should be in your emergency
kit; become as visible as possible.

You and Bill (bless his heart) are setting up a strawman, I don't deny
a complete nitwit is at risk of dying in a stuck vehicle incident, I'm
just saying that a modicum of common sense reduces it to an unpleasant
experience.

Re: Solo Desert Breakdown = Death?
 

Have you traveled through Death Valley in the summer time?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mark wrote:
>
> I might suggest exiting your vehicle using the *door* feature and
> finding (or creating) a shady spot should be the first order of
> business. And getting "way out of the typical tracks in a canyon"
> alone without being specific in your trip plan is asking for trouble;
> staying on popular trails means passersby is a real possibility.
>
> Concerning rescuers, you're thinking two dimensionally. Unlike
> forested terrain, the desert is open and visibility is usually
> excellent, rescuers could be a half a mile *above* you, and you'd know
> it by seeing and hearing their CAP airplane. Forgot to mention a
> signal mirror and international orange tarp should be in your emergency
> kit; become as visible as possible.
>
> You and Bill (bless his heart) are setting up a strawman, I don't deny
> a complete nitwit is at risk of dying in a stuck vehicle incident, I'm
> just saying that a modicum of common sense reduces it to an unpleasant
> experience.