Re: Solo Desert Breakdown = Death?
 

I was intriqued by this thread (but have NO experience in the desert)

However... you would think if these guys and girls can RACE 135 miles
through death valley in the summertime (masochistic tendencies aside),
surely someone with enough water can WALK a few miles to a road with
more traffic on it, no?

http://www.runningonthesun.org/r-mission.htm


L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> When I see something wrong I'm going to jump in there and correct
> them! I've lived in Southern California all my life, and I can tell you,
> you will die in our deserts during the summer time, even if you believe
> you are totally prepared for every possible problem. The best way is to
> postpone that trip to Los Wages, for weather that will allow the
> changing of a tire before you go into heat stroke.
> Have you traveled through Death Valley in the good old summer time?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Chris wrote:
> >
> > This thread is starting to take on a life of its own, maybe even
> > entertaining.

Re: Solo Desert Breakdown = Death?
 

Deano wrote:
> I was intriqued by this thread (but have NO experience in the desert)
>
> However... you would think if these guys and girls can RACE 135 miles
> through death valley in the summertime (masochistic tendencies aside),
> surely someone with enough water can WALK a few miles to a road with
> more traffic on it, no?
>
> http://www.runningonthesun.org/r-mission.htm
>
>

It would be tough for an unconditioned person in DV in the middle of
the summer. I would not do a solo trip to DV in the summer, but Joshua
Tree doesn't get that hot in the summer.

Re: Solo Desert Breakdown = Death?
 

Deano wrote:
> I was intriqued by this thread (but have NO experience in the desert)
>
> However... you would think if these guys and girls can RACE 135 miles
> through death valley in the summertime (masochistic tendencies aside),
> surely someone with enough water can WALK a few miles to a road with
> more traffic on it, no?
>
> http://www.runningonthesun.org/r-mission.htm
>
>

It would be tough for an unconditioned person in DV in the middle of
the summer. I would not do a solo trip to DV in the summer, but Joshua
Tree doesn't get that hot in the summer.

Re: Solo Desert Breakdown = Death?
 

Deano wrote:
> I was intriqued by this thread (but have NO experience in the desert)
>
> However... you would think if these guys and girls can RACE 135 miles
> through death valley in the summertime (masochistic tendencies aside),
> surely someone with enough water can WALK a few miles to a road with
> more traffic on it, no?
>
> http://www.runningonthesun.org/r-mission.htm
>
>

It would be tough for an unconditioned person in DV in the middle of
the summer. I would not do a solo trip to DV in the summer, but Joshua
Tree doesn't get that hot in the summer.

Re: Solo Desert Breakdown = Death?
 

Deano wrote:
> I was intriqued by this thread (but have NO experience in the desert)
>
> However... you would think if these guys and girls can RACE 135 miles
> through death valley in the summertime (masochistic tendencies aside),
> surely someone with enough water can WALK a few miles to a road with
> more traffic on it, no?

A few miles, possibly. And that depends entirely on how much water
and how much shelter you have. http://phoenix.gov/fire/desert.html

The desert is a dangerous place and most folks have no idea just how
much water you actually need to survive. I've hiked in the grand
canyon (it's hotter down in the canyon than most people think).
Moving on foot takes a lot more out of you then sitting behind
a wheel. And a lot of folks are simply not in good enough shape
to walk four miles on flat ground yet alone navigate shifting terrain
and washes.

It goes like this. Your walking in the heat, thinking your doing fine
but in reality loosing large amounts of water. Eventually you don't
feel so thirsty, then you feel tired, then your dead because your
heart can no longer pump the sludge that was once blood.

Here is some good reading
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/desert-3.php

In all fairness I'd rather hike in the desert than the swamp.
There is such a thing as too much water. :)

--
DougW

Re: Solo Desert Breakdown = Death?
 

Deano wrote:
> I was intriqued by this thread (but have NO experience in the desert)
>
> However... you would think if these guys and girls can RACE 135 miles
> through death valley in the summertime (masochistic tendencies aside),
> surely someone with enough water can WALK a few miles to a road with
> more traffic on it, no?

A few miles, possibly. And that depends entirely on how much water
and how much shelter you have. http://phoenix.gov/fire/desert.html

The desert is a dangerous place and most folks have no idea just how
much water you actually need to survive. I've hiked in the grand
canyon (it's hotter down in the canyon than most people think).
Moving on foot takes a lot more out of you then sitting behind
a wheel. And a lot of folks are simply not in good enough shape
to walk four miles on flat ground yet alone navigate shifting terrain
and washes.

It goes like this. Your walking in the heat, thinking your doing fine
but in reality loosing large amounts of water. Eventually you don't
feel so thirsty, then you feel tired, then your dead because your
heart can no longer pump the sludge that was once blood.

Here is some good reading
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/desert-3.php

In all fairness I'd rather hike in the desert than the swamp.
There is such a thing as too much water. :)

--
DougW

Re: Solo Desert Breakdown = Death?
 

Deano wrote:
> I was intriqued by this thread (but have NO experience in the desert)
>
> However... you would think if these guys and girls can RACE 135 miles
> through death valley in the summertime (masochistic tendencies aside),
> surely someone with enough water can WALK a few miles to a road with
> more traffic on it, no?

A few miles, possibly. And that depends entirely on how much water
and how much shelter you have. http://phoenix.gov/fire/desert.html

The desert is a dangerous place and most folks have no idea just how
much water you actually need to survive. I've hiked in the grand
canyon (it's hotter down in the canyon than most people think).
Moving on foot takes a lot more out of you then sitting behind
a wheel. And a lot of folks are simply not in good enough shape
to walk four miles on flat ground yet alone navigate shifting terrain
and washes.

It goes like this. Your walking in the heat, thinking your doing fine
but in reality loosing large amounts of water. Eventually you don't
feel so thirsty, then you feel tired, then your dead because your
heart can no longer pump the sludge that was once blood.

Here is some good reading
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/desert-3.php

In all fairness I'd rather hike in the desert than the swamp.
There is such a thing as too much water. :)

--
DougW

Re: Solo Desert Breakdown = Death?
 

They had a lot of help, one is to carry two hundred and forty
pounds of water, each will drink.
http://www.runningonthesun.org/r-bio.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Deano wrote:
>
> I was intriqued by this thread (but have NO experience in the desert)
>
> However... you would think if these guys and girls can RACE 135 miles
> through death valley in the summertime (masochistic tendencies aside),
> surely someone with enough water can WALK a few miles to a road with
> more traffic on it, no?
>
> http://www.runningonthesun.org/r-mission.htm

Re: Solo Desert Breakdown = Death?
 

They had a lot of help, one is to carry two hundred and forty
pounds of water, each will drink.
http://www.runningonthesun.org/r-bio.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Deano wrote:
>
> I was intriqued by this thread (but have NO experience in the desert)
>
> However... you would think if these guys and girls can RACE 135 miles
> through death valley in the summertime (masochistic tendencies aside),
> surely someone with enough water can WALK a few miles to a road with
> more traffic on it, no?
>
> http://www.runningonthesun.org/r-mission.htm

Re: Solo Desert Breakdown = Death?
 

They had a lot of help, one is to carry two hundred and forty
pounds of water, each will drink.
http://www.runningonthesun.org/r-bio.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Deano wrote:
>
> I was intriqued by this thread (but have NO experience in the desert)
>
> However... you would think if these guys and girls can RACE 135 miles
> through death valley in the summertime (masochistic tendencies aside),
> surely someone with enough water can WALK a few miles to a road with
> more traffic on it, no?
>
> http://www.runningonthesun.org/r-mission.htm