Thomas,

I don't think that will work for this application, especially if all you do
is pound something into a hole. The CJ skid plate supports the
transmission. I think it needs to be grade 5 steel or harder. This is a
significant amount force exerted on these bolts.

But that does give me another idea - if I can find a drill bit long enough
to reach through to the other side of the frame, I can drill a hole on the
top side of the frame. I can then stick a long bolt through both holes and
put a nut on the top side.

I'll have to look into it...
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891

ThomasW (thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com) wrote on Thursday 11 December 2003
09:20 am:

> Nutsert. You basically drill out your hole to the proper diam. for the
> nutsert and then pound in the 'nut' part into the hole. You then have a
> 'nut' without reaching the backside of the frame. Should be just fine
> for a skid plate. Here is a link:
>
>
<http://search.netscape.com/ns/boomframe.jsp?query=nutsert&page=1&offset=0&result _url=redir%3Fsrc%3Dwebsearch%26amp%3BrequestId%3D8 e71a6b1eaf54c90%26amp%3BclickedItemRank%3D1%26amp% 3BuserQuery%3Dnutsert%26amp%3BclickedItemURN%3Dhtt p%253A%252F%252Fwww.aboveboardelectronics.com%252F Avdel%252Fblind%252Fnutsert.htm%26amp%3Binvocation Type%3D-%26amp%3BfromPage%3DNSCPIndex&remove_url=http%3A%2 F%2Fwww.aboveboardelectronics.com%2FAvdel%2Fblind% 2Fnutsert.htm>
>
> Greg wrote:
>> And what is a nutset? Since I am also running with 5 out of 6 on my CJ
>>
>> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:kxUBb.8$357.3353665@newssvr30.news.prodigy.co m...
>>
>>>What about a nutsert?
>>>
>>>Michael White wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>While dropping the skid plate on my '82 Scrambler, one of the nuts
>>
>> inside of
>>
>>>>the frame broke free of what I'm assuming is its weld. Fortunately, it
>>>>broke free after I had the bolt about half way out and I was able to
>>
>> hack
>>
>>>>saw the bolt in half and drop the skid plate.
>>>>
>>>>Is there any way to fix this other that having someone cut open the
>>
>> frame
>>
>>>>and weld in a new nut? Say, some sort of grade 5 butterfly nut? The
>>
>> hole
>>
>>>>is larger than I'd like to tap (I'd say 9/16" or 5/8"). Right now I'm
>>>>running with five bolts rather than six.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>>--
>>>_______________________________________________ ____________
>>>tw
>>>03 TJ Rubicon
>>>01 XJ Sport

 

Thomas,

I don't think that will work for this application, especially if all you do
is pound something into a hole. The CJ skid plate supports the
transmission. I think it needs to be grade 5 steel or harder. This is a
significant amount force exerted on these bolts.

But that does give me another idea - if I can find a drill bit long enough
to reach through to the other side of the frame, I can drill a hole on the
top side of the frame. I can then stick a long bolt through both holes and
put a nut on the top side.

I'll have to look into it...
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer, 1891

ThomasW (thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com) wrote on Thursday 11 December 2003
09:20 am:

> Nutsert. You basically drill out your hole to the proper diam. for the
> nutsert and then pound in the 'nut' part into the hole. You then have a
> 'nut' without reaching the backside of the frame. Should be just fine
> for a skid plate. Here is a link:
>
>
<http://search.netscape.com/ns/boomframe.jsp?query=nutsert&page=1&offset=0&result _url=redir%3Fsrc%3Dwebsearch%26amp%3BrequestId%3D8 e71a6b1eaf54c90%26amp%3BclickedItemRank%3D1%26amp% 3BuserQuery%3Dnutsert%26amp%3BclickedItemURN%3Dhtt p%253A%252F%252Fwww.aboveboardelectronics.com%252F Avdel%252Fblind%252Fnutsert.htm%26amp%3Binvocation Type%3D-%26amp%3BfromPage%3DNSCPIndex&remove_url=http%3A%2 F%2Fwww.aboveboardelectronics.com%2FAvdel%2Fblind% 2Fnutsert.htm>
>
> Greg wrote:
>> And what is a nutset? Since I am also running with 5 out of 6 on my CJ
>>
>> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:kxUBb.8$357.3353665@newssvr30.news.prodigy.co m...
>>
>>>What about a nutsert?
>>>
>>>Michael White wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>While dropping the skid plate on my '82 Scrambler, one of the nuts
>>
>> inside of
>>
>>>>the frame broke free of what I'm assuming is its weld. Fortunately, it
>>>>broke free after I had the bolt about half way out and I was able to
>>
>> hack
>>
>>>>saw the bolt in half and drop the skid plate.
>>>>
>>>>Is there any way to fix this other that having someone cut open the
>>
>> frame
>>
>>>>and weld in a new nut? Say, some sort of grade 5 butterfly nut? The
>>
>> hole
>>
>>>>is larger than I'd like to tap (I'd say 9/16" or 5/8"). Right now I'm
>>>>running with five bolts rather than six.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>>--
>>>_______________________________________________ ____________
>>>tw
>>>03 TJ Rubicon
>>>01 XJ Sport

 

Let us know how you solve it.

Michael White wrote:

> Thomas,
>
> I don't think that will work for this application, especially if all you do
> is pound something into a hole. The CJ skid plate supports the
> transmission. I think it needs to be grade 5 steel or harder. This is a
> significant amount force exerted on these bolts.
>
> But that does give me another idea - if I can find a drill bit long enough
> to reach through to the other side of the frame, I can drill a hole on the
> top side of the frame. I can then stick a long bolt through both holes and
> put a nut on the top side.
>
> I'll have to look into it...

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting
to me, because as we know, there are known knowns, there are things
we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to
say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also
unknown unknowns — the ones we don't know we don't know."
-- Donald Rumsfeld (2003)

"I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and
a woman."
-- Arnold Schwarzenegger (2003)

__________________________________________________ _________

 

Let us know how you solve it.

Michael White wrote:

> Thomas,
>
> I don't think that will work for this application, especially if all you do
> is pound something into a hole. The CJ skid plate supports the
> transmission. I think it needs to be grade 5 steel or harder. This is a
> significant amount force exerted on these bolts.
>
> But that does give me another idea - if I can find a drill bit long enough
> to reach through to the other side of the frame, I can drill a hole on the
> top side of the frame. I can then stick a long bolt through both holes and
> put a nut on the top side.
>
> I'll have to look into it...

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting
to me, because as we know, there are known knowns, there are things
we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to
say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also
unknown unknowns — the ones we don't know we don't know."
-- Donald Rumsfeld (2003)

"I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and
a woman."
-- Arnold Schwarzenegger (2003)

__________________________________________________ _________

 

Let us know how you solve it.

Michael White wrote:

> Thomas,
>
> I don't think that will work for this application, especially if all you do
> is pound something into a hole. The CJ skid plate supports the
> transmission. I think it needs to be grade 5 steel or harder. This is a
> significant amount force exerted on these bolts.
>
> But that does give me another idea - if I can find a drill bit long enough
> to reach through to the other side of the frame, I can drill a hole on the
> top side of the frame. I can then stick a long bolt through both holes and
> put a nut on the top side.
>
> I'll have to look into it...

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting
to me, because as we know, there are known knowns, there are things
we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to
say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also
unknown unknowns — the ones we don't know we don't know."
-- Donald Rumsfeld (2003)

"I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and
a woman."
-- Arnold Schwarzenegger (2003)

__________________________________________________ _________

 

>>
>> http://www.marshallsales.com/product...llnut_demo.htm

>Won't be strong enough. They're brass or plastic. Needs to be grade 5
>steel minimum.
>
>Thanks anyway.
>--
Check again, they are available in steel, we used to use them to
install toolboxes in the beds of pickups, very durable.
Good Luck
Tookie - Denham Springs, LA
88YJ,"Money Hungry"
4" lift, 33" TSLs, Lock-Rights
PosiLock, 4.10s

 

>>
>> http://www.marshallsales.com/product...llnut_demo.htm

>Won't be strong enough. They're brass or plastic. Needs to be grade 5
>steel minimum.
>
>Thanks anyway.
>--
Check again, they are available in steel, we used to use them to
install toolboxes in the beds of pickups, very durable.
Good Luck
Tookie - Denham Springs, LA
88YJ,"Money Hungry"
4" lift, 33" TSLs, Lock-Rights
PosiLock, 4.10s

 

>>
>> http://www.marshallsales.com/product...llnut_demo.htm

>Won't be strong enough. They're brass or plastic. Needs to be grade 5
>steel minimum.
>
>Thanks anyway.
>--
Check again, they are available in steel, we used to use them to
install toolboxes in the beds of pickups, very durable.
Good Luck
Tookie - Denham Springs, LA
88YJ,"Money Hungry"
4" lift, 33" TSLs, Lock-Rights
PosiLock, 4.10s

 

Over the course of years I lost a few of the frame nuts on my 87 Wrangler.
A welding shop suggested that they weld a plate with threaded holes to the
bottom of the frame that I could screw the bolts into. Much $$. Then a
friend suggested U-bolts. I have 4 4 inch by 6 inch U-bolts holding the skid
plate up. I had to drill holes in the skid plate for the interior leg of
the U to drop through, not a hard job. Two of the original bolts were
spinning their nuts so I cut off the bolt heads. The stumps which are left
prevent lateral motion. So far it is working fine and the cost was about
$10.

-David

 

Over the course of years I lost a few of the frame nuts on my 87 Wrangler.
A welding shop suggested that they weld a plate with threaded holes to the
bottom of the frame that I could screw the bolts into. Much $$. Then a
friend suggested U-bolts. I have 4 4 inch by 6 inch U-bolts holding the skid
plate up. I had to drill holes in the skid plate for the interior leg of
the U to drop through, not a hard job. Two of the original bolts were
spinning their nuts so I cut off the bolt heads. The stumps which are left
prevent lateral motion. So far it is working fine and the cost was about
$10.

-David