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Re: SILLY QUESTION -- JUST NEED AN OPINION FROM EVERYONE
In article <461beb7a$0$22696$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.c om>,
romainm@sympatico.ca says... > There are some 'real' bad suppliers of 'stainless' out there. The worst > was 'stealhorse' which had to dump the name and farm out under new names > because no one would buy their products anymore. Their 'stainless' came > rusted right in the package, literally, as I have seen a few. You want to look for 304 stainless. Most other grades have to much carbon. > I don't know what names they are trying to sucker people under these > days unfortunately, maybe others do? > > Kentrol is known for stainless that lasts. > > If you plan on off roading, plan on your hinges getting scratched. They > are the last place a branch hooks up on as it slides past your hood. > Snoman doesn't off road so he has no experience with 'custom pin > striping' on his J10 snowplow. LOL! > > I have never seen any coatings that would stay on stainless over time. > They all chip off. Not saying some newer stuff might not stick, but... Don't bother painting stainless... IMO it seems pointless even if you do get it to stick. > If I ever get more money than I know what to do with, after I put a new > frame in my CJ7 Laredo, I might go with stainless hinges to match my > chrome and stainless 'Laredo' package. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: SILLY QUESTION -- JUST NEED AN OPINION FROM EVERYONE
In article <461beb7a$0$22696$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.c om>,
romainm@sympatico.ca says... > There are some 'real' bad suppliers of 'stainless' out there. The worst > was 'stealhorse' which had to dump the name and farm out under new names > because no one would buy their products anymore. Their 'stainless' came > rusted right in the package, literally, as I have seen a few. You want to look for 304 stainless. Most other grades have to much carbon. > I don't know what names they are trying to sucker people under these > days unfortunately, maybe others do? > > Kentrol is known for stainless that lasts. > > If you plan on off roading, plan on your hinges getting scratched. They > are the last place a branch hooks up on as it slides past your hood. > Snoman doesn't off road so he has no experience with 'custom pin > striping' on his J10 snowplow. LOL! > > I have never seen any coatings that would stay on stainless over time. > They all chip off. Not saying some newer stuff might not stick, but... Don't bother painting stainless... IMO it seems pointless even if you do get it to stick. > If I ever get more money than I know what to do with, after I put a new > frame in my CJ7 Laredo, I might go with stainless hinges to match my > chrome and stainless 'Laredo' package. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: SILLY QUESTION -- JUST NEED AN OPINION FROM EVERYONE
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:25:09 -0400, Heatwave
<m3lt1ng5n0wmen@wah00.com> wrote: >In article <461beb7a$0$22696$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.c om>, >romainm@sympatico.ca says... >> There are some 'real' bad suppliers of 'stainless' out there. The worst >> was 'stealhorse' which had to dump the name and farm out under new names >> because no one would buy their products anymore. Their 'stainless' came >> rusted right in the package, literally, as I have seen a few. > >You want to look for 304 stainless. Most other grades have to much >carbon. > >> I don't know what names they are trying to sucker people under these >> days unfortunately, maybe others do? >> >> Kentrol is known for stainless that lasts. >> >> If you plan on off roading, plan on your hinges getting scratched. They >> are the last place a branch hooks up on as it slides past your hood. >> Snoman doesn't off road so he has no experience with 'custom pin >> striping' on his J10 snowplow. LOL! >> >> I have never seen any coatings that would stay on stainless over time. >> They all chip off. Not saying some newer stuff might not stick, but... > >Don't bother painting stainless... IMO it seems pointless even if you do >get it to stick. > >> If I ever get more money than I know what to do with, after I put a new >> frame in my CJ7 Laredo, I might go with stainless hinges to match my >> chrome and stainless 'Laredo' package. >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) hi all, 304 SS is also known as muffler stainless, it isn't a high grade of stainless steel, it is pretty soft (as SS goes), it is easily machined (especially with an L alloyed in) or formed / bent. corrosion resistance (penetration resistance) is pretty good but for cosmetic applications it won't hold a high polish or resist scratches. most u.s. built cars / trucks with SS exhaust systems use 304 SS. it will not however red rust or white corrode which would already be a big improvement over the hinges and mirror brackets on my TJ. reboot --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000732-0, 04/10/2007 Tested on: 4/10/2007 9:15:25 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com |
Re: SILLY QUESTION -- JUST NEED AN OPINION FROM EVERYONE
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:25:09 -0400, Heatwave
<m3lt1ng5n0wmen@wah00.com> wrote: >In article <461beb7a$0$22696$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.c om>, >romainm@sympatico.ca says... >> There are some 'real' bad suppliers of 'stainless' out there. The worst >> was 'stealhorse' which had to dump the name and farm out under new names >> because no one would buy their products anymore. Their 'stainless' came >> rusted right in the package, literally, as I have seen a few. > >You want to look for 304 stainless. Most other grades have to much >carbon. > >> I don't know what names they are trying to sucker people under these >> days unfortunately, maybe others do? >> >> Kentrol is known for stainless that lasts. >> >> If you plan on off roading, plan on your hinges getting scratched. They >> are the last place a branch hooks up on as it slides past your hood. >> Snoman doesn't off road so he has no experience with 'custom pin >> striping' on his J10 snowplow. LOL! >> >> I have never seen any coatings that would stay on stainless over time. >> They all chip off. Not saying some newer stuff might not stick, but... > >Don't bother painting stainless... IMO it seems pointless even if you do >get it to stick. > >> If I ever get more money than I know what to do with, after I put a new >> frame in my CJ7 Laredo, I might go with stainless hinges to match my >> chrome and stainless 'Laredo' package. >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) hi all, 304 SS is also known as muffler stainless, it isn't a high grade of stainless steel, it is pretty soft (as SS goes), it is easily machined (especially with an L alloyed in) or formed / bent. corrosion resistance (penetration resistance) is pretty good but for cosmetic applications it won't hold a high polish or resist scratches. most u.s. built cars / trucks with SS exhaust systems use 304 SS. it will not however red rust or white corrode which would already be a big improvement over the hinges and mirror brackets on my TJ. reboot --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000732-0, 04/10/2007 Tested on: 4/10/2007 9:15:25 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com |
Re: SILLY QUESTION -- JUST NEED AN OPINION FROM EVERYONE
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:25:09 -0400, Heatwave
<m3lt1ng5n0wmen@wah00.com> wrote: >In article <461beb7a$0$22696$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.c om>, >romainm@sympatico.ca says... >> There are some 'real' bad suppliers of 'stainless' out there. The worst >> was 'stealhorse' which had to dump the name and farm out under new names >> because no one would buy their products anymore. Their 'stainless' came >> rusted right in the package, literally, as I have seen a few. > >You want to look for 304 stainless. Most other grades have to much >carbon. > >> I don't know what names they are trying to sucker people under these >> days unfortunately, maybe others do? >> >> Kentrol is known for stainless that lasts. >> >> If you plan on off roading, plan on your hinges getting scratched. They >> are the last place a branch hooks up on as it slides past your hood. >> Snoman doesn't off road so he has no experience with 'custom pin >> striping' on his J10 snowplow. LOL! >> >> I have never seen any coatings that would stay on stainless over time. >> They all chip off. Not saying some newer stuff might not stick, but... > >Don't bother painting stainless... IMO it seems pointless even if you do >get it to stick. > >> If I ever get more money than I know what to do with, after I put a new >> frame in my CJ7 Laredo, I might go with stainless hinges to match my >> chrome and stainless 'Laredo' package. >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) hi all, 304 SS is also known as muffler stainless, it isn't a high grade of stainless steel, it is pretty soft (as SS goes), it is easily machined (especially with an L alloyed in) or formed / bent. corrosion resistance (penetration resistance) is pretty good but for cosmetic applications it won't hold a high polish or resist scratches. most u.s. built cars / trucks with SS exhaust systems use 304 SS. it will not however red rust or white corrode which would already be a big improvement over the hinges and mirror brackets on my TJ. reboot --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000732-0, 04/10/2007 Tested on: 4/10/2007 9:15:25 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com |
Re: Re: Re: SILLY QUESTION -- JUST NEED AN OPINION FROM EVERYONE
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:41:11 -0600, "Earle Horton"
<apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote: >Heh, unless you're a metallurgist what they tell you will be meaningless. Not if you know how to look alloys up because you can find out in a few minute or less on internt for ANY alloy or any metal. I used to know the major alloys but I would have to look them up to. (I still remember some steel and aluminum ones though) ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: Re: SILLY QUESTION -- JUST NEED AN OPINION FROM EVERYONE
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:41:11 -0600, "Earle Horton"
<apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote: >Heh, unless you're a metallurgist what they tell you will be meaningless. Not if you know how to look alloys up because you can find out in a few minute or less on internt for ANY alloy or any metal. I used to know the major alloys but I would have to look them up to. (I still remember some steel and aluminum ones though) ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Re: Re: SILLY QUESTION -- JUST NEED AN OPINION FROM EVERYONE
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:41:11 -0600, "Earle Horton"
<apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote: >Heh, unless you're a metallurgist what they tell you will be meaningless. Not if you know how to look alloys up because you can find out in a few minute or less on internt for ANY alloy or any metal. I used to know the major alloys but I would have to look them up to. (I still remember some steel and aluminum ones though) ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: SILLY QUESTION -- JUST NEED AN OPINION FROM EVERYONE
In article <ubdo135bplo1e2a5ho5ojkfhuh5pug5nvo@4ax.com>,
reboot@nothere.newsguy.com says... > On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:25:09 -0400, Heatwave > <m3lt1ng5n0wmen@wah00.com> wrote: > >In article <461beb7a$0$22696$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.c om>, > >romainm@sympatico.ca says... > >> > >> Kentrol is known for stainless that lasts. > >> [snips] > hi all, > 304 SS is also known as muffler stainless, it isn't a high grade of > stainless steel, it is pretty soft (as SS goes), it is easily machined > (especially with an L alloyed in) or formed / bent. corrosion > resistance (penetration resistance) is pretty good but for cosmetic > applications it won't hold a high polish or resist scratches. > > most u.s. built cars / trucks with SS exhaust systems use 304 SS. > > it will not however red rust or white corrode which would already be a > big improvement over the hinges and mirror brackets on my TJ. > > reboot I use 304 for my chopper parts and they seem to hold a polish. I googled Kentrol + 304 and found Kentrol uses a lot of 304 stainless. I just thought I'd say if you are looking for stainless parts and they don't state "304" stainless you might want to stay clear of them so you don't run into the same problem Mike did. 316 is another good alloy of stainless...if you ever see parts made from it. |
Re: SILLY QUESTION -- JUST NEED AN OPINION FROM EVERYONE
In article <ubdo135bplo1e2a5ho5ojkfhuh5pug5nvo@4ax.com>,
reboot@nothere.newsguy.com says... > On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:25:09 -0400, Heatwave > <m3lt1ng5n0wmen@wah00.com> wrote: > >In article <461beb7a$0$22696$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.c om>, > >romainm@sympatico.ca says... > >> > >> Kentrol is known for stainless that lasts. > >> [snips] > hi all, > 304 SS is also known as muffler stainless, it isn't a high grade of > stainless steel, it is pretty soft (as SS goes), it is easily machined > (especially with an L alloyed in) or formed / bent. corrosion > resistance (penetration resistance) is pretty good but for cosmetic > applications it won't hold a high polish or resist scratches. > > most u.s. built cars / trucks with SS exhaust systems use 304 SS. > > it will not however red rust or white corrode which would already be a > big improvement over the hinges and mirror brackets on my TJ. > > reboot I use 304 for my chopper parts and they seem to hold a polish. I googled Kentrol + 304 and found Kentrol uses a lot of 304 stainless. I just thought I'd say if you are looking for stainless parts and they don't state "304" stainless you might want to stay clear of them so you don't run into the same problem Mike did. 316 is another good alloy of stainless...if you ever see parts made from it. |
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