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Mike Romain 04-10-2007 03:54 PM

Re: SILLY QUESTION -- JUST NEED AN OPINION FROM EVERYONE
 
Tracie wrote:
> On Apr 10, 2:40 pm, SnoMan <a...@snoman.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:03:59 -0600, "Earle Horton"
>>
>> <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
>>> Stainless scratches if you touch it and then you make it look worse when you
>>> try to polish it.

>> It takes more than a touch to scratch it as it is pretty tuff and it
>> is not hard to polish out scratches if you do it right. You just need
>> the right method and compound.
>> -----------------
>> TheSnoMan.com

>
> I have heard of Kentrol. They are supposed to be good. Anybody know
> anything about Rugged Ridge stainless hinges?
>


There are some 'real' bad suppliers of 'stainless' out there. The worst
was 'stealhorse' which had to dump the name and farm out under new names
because no one would buy their products anymore. Their 'stainless' came
rusted right in the package, literally, as I have seen a few.

I don't know what names they are trying to sucker people under these
days unfortunately, maybe others do?

Kentrol is known for stainless that lasts.

If you plan on off roading, plan on your hinges getting scratched. They
are the last place a branch hooks up on as it slides past your hood.
Snoman doesn't off road so he has no experience with 'custom pin
striping' on his J10 snowplow. LOL!

I have never seen any coatings that would stay on stainless over time.
They all chip off. Not saying some newer stuff might not stick, but...

If I ever get more money than I know what to do with, after I put a new
frame in my CJ7 Laredo, I might go with stainless hinges to match my
chrome and stainless 'Laredo' package.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 04-10-2007 03:54 PM

Re: SILLY QUESTION -- JUST NEED AN OPINION FROM EVERYONE
 
Tracie wrote:
> On Apr 10, 2:40 pm, SnoMan <a...@snoman.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:03:59 -0600, "Earle Horton"
>>
>> <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
>>> Stainless scratches if you touch it and then you make it look worse when you
>>> try to polish it.

>> It takes more than a touch to scratch it as it is pretty tuff and it
>> is not hard to polish out scratches if you do it right. You just need
>> the right method and compound.
>> -----------------
>> TheSnoMan.com

>
> I have heard of Kentrol. They are supposed to be good. Anybody know
> anything about Rugged Ridge stainless hinges?
>


There are some 'real' bad suppliers of 'stainless' out there. The worst
was 'stealhorse' which had to dump the name and farm out under new names
because no one would buy their products anymore. Their 'stainless' came
rusted right in the package, literally, as I have seen a few.

I don't know what names they are trying to sucker people under these
days unfortunately, maybe others do?

Kentrol is known for stainless that lasts.

If you plan on off roading, plan on your hinges getting scratched. They
are the last place a branch hooks up on as it slides past your hood.
Snoman doesn't off road so he has no experience with 'custom pin
striping' on his J10 snowplow. LOL!

I have never seen any coatings that would stay on stainless over time.
They all chip off. Not saying some newer stuff might not stick, but...

If I ever get more money than I know what to do with, after I put a new
frame in my CJ7 Laredo, I might go with stainless hinges to match my
chrome and stainless 'Laredo' package.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 04-10-2007 03:54 PM

Re: SILLY QUESTION -- JUST NEED AN OPINION FROM EVERYONE
 
Tracie wrote:
> On Apr 10, 2:40 pm, SnoMan <a...@snoman.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:03:59 -0600, "Earle Horton"
>>
>> <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
>>> Stainless scratches if you touch it and then you make it look worse when you
>>> try to polish it.

>> It takes more than a touch to scratch it as it is pretty tuff and it
>> is not hard to polish out scratches if you do it right. You just need
>> the right method and compound.
>> -----------------
>> TheSnoMan.com

>
> I have heard of Kentrol. They are supposed to be good. Anybody know
> anything about Rugged Ridge stainless hinges?
>


There are some 'real' bad suppliers of 'stainless' out there. The worst
was 'stealhorse' which had to dump the name and farm out under new names
because no one would buy their products anymore. Their 'stainless' came
rusted right in the package, literally, as I have seen a few.

I don't know what names they are trying to sucker people under these
days unfortunately, maybe others do?

Kentrol is known for stainless that lasts.

If you plan on off roading, plan on your hinges getting scratched. They
are the last place a branch hooks up on as it slides past your hood.
Snoman doesn't off road so he has no experience with 'custom pin
striping' on his J10 snowplow. LOL!

I have never seen any coatings that would stay on stainless over time.
They all chip off. Not saying some newer stuff might not stick, but...

If I ever get more money than I know what to do with, after I put a new
frame in my CJ7 Laredo, I might go with stainless hinges to match my
chrome and stainless 'Laredo' package.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

SnoMan 04-10-2007 06:08 PM

Re: Re: SILLY QUESTION -- JUST NEED AN OPINION FROM EVERYONE
 
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 15:54:52 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>Tracie wrote:
>> On Apr 10, 2:40 pm, SnoMan <a...@snoman.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:03:59 -0600, "Earle Horton"
>>>
>>> <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
>>>> Stainless scratches if you touch it and then you make it look worse when you
>>>> try to polish it.
>>> It takes more than a touch to scratch it as it is pretty tuff and it
>>> is not hard to polish out scratches if you do it right. You just need
>>> the right method and compound.
>>> -----------------
>>> TheSnoMan.com

>>
>> I have heard of Kentrol. They are supposed to be good. Anybody know
>> anything about Rugged Ridge stainless hinges?
>>

>
>There are some 'real' bad suppliers of 'stainless' out there. The worst
>was 'stealhorse' which had to dump the name and farm out under new names
>because no one would buy their products anymore. Their 'stainless' came
>rusted right in the package, literally, as I have seen a few.
>
>I don't know what names they are trying to sucker people under these
>days unfortunately, maybe others do?
>
>Kentrol is known for stainless that lasts.
>
>If you plan on off roading, plan on your hinges getting scratched. They
>are the last place a branch hooks up on as it slides past your hood.
>Snoman doesn't off road so he has no experience with 'custom pin
>striping' on his J10 snowplow. LOL!
>
>I have never seen any coatings that would stay on stainless over time.
>They all chip off. Not saying some newer stuff might not stick, but...
>
>If I ever get more money than I know what to do with, after I put a new
>frame in my CJ7 Laredo, I might go with stainless hinges to match my
>chrome and stainless 'Laredo' package.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)



The alloy SS it is play a big roll in quality too. I would ask them
what alloy they are using because some SS alloys are not good for
this. (they use them because it is easier to machine)
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 04-10-2007 06:08 PM

Re: Re: SILLY QUESTION -- JUST NEED AN OPINION FROM EVERYONE
 
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 15:54:52 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>Tracie wrote:
>> On Apr 10, 2:40 pm, SnoMan <a...@snoman.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:03:59 -0600, "Earle Horton"
>>>
>>> <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
>>>> Stainless scratches if you touch it and then you make it look worse when you
>>>> try to polish it.
>>> It takes more than a touch to scratch it as it is pretty tuff and it
>>> is not hard to polish out scratches if you do it right. You just need
>>> the right method and compound.
>>> -----------------
>>> TheSnoMan.com

>>
>> I have heard of Kentrol. They are supposed to be good. Anybody know
>> anything about Rugged Ridge stainless hinges?
>>

>
>There are some 'real' bad suppliers of 'stainless' out there. The worst
>was 'stealhorse' which had to dump the name and farm out under new names
>because no one would buy their products anymore. Their 'stainless' came
>rusted right in the package, literally, as I have seen a few.
>
>I don't know what names they are trying to sucker people under these
>days unfortunately, maybe others do?
>
>Kentrol is known for stainless that lasts.
>
>If you plan on off roading, plan on your hinges getting scratched. They
>are the last place a branch hooks up on as it slides past your hood.
>Snoman doesn't off road so he has no experience with 'custom pin
>striping' on his J10 snowplow. LOL!
>
>I have never seen any coatings that would stay on stainless over time.
>They all chip off. Not saying some newer stuff might not stick, but...
>
>If I ever get more money than I know what to do with, after I put a new
>frame in my CJ7 Laredo, I might go with stainless hinges to match my
>chrome and stainless 'Laredo' package.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)



The alloy SS it is play a big roll in quality too. I would ask them
what alloy they are using because some SS alloys are not good for
this. (they use them because it is easier to machine)
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 04-10-2007 06:08 PM

Re: Re: SILLY QUESTION -- JUST NEED AN OPINION FROM EVERYONE
 
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 15:54:52 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>Tracie wrote:
>> On Apr 10, 2:40 pm, SnoMan <a...@snoman.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:03:59 -0600, "Earle Horton"
>>>
>>> <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
>>>> Stainless scratches if you touch it and then you make it look worse when you
>>>> try to polish it.
>>> It takes more than a touch to scratch it as it is pretty tuff and it
>>> is not hard to polish out scratches if you do it right. You just need
>>> the right method and compound.
>>> -----------------
>>> TheSnoMan.com

>>
>> I have heard of Kentrol. They are supposed to be good. Anybody know
>> anything about Rugged Ridge stainless hinges?
>>

>
>There are some 'real' bad suppliers of 'stainless' out there. The worst
>was 'stealhorse' which had to dump the name and farm out under new names
>because no one would buy their products anymore. Their 'stainless' came
>rusted right in the package, literally, as I have seen a few.
>
>I don't know what names they are trying to sucker people under these
>days unfortunately, maybe others do?
>
>Kentrol is known for stainless that lasts.
>
>If you plan on off roading, plan on your hinges getting scratched. They
>are the last place a branch hooks up on as it slides past your hood.
>Snoman doesn't off road so he has no experience with 'custom pin
>striping' on his J10 snowplow. LOL!
>
>I have never seen any coatings that would stay on stainless over time.
>They all chip off. Not saying some newer stuff might not stick, but...
>
>If I ever get more money than I know what to do with, after I put a new
>frame in my CJ7 Laredo, I might go with stainless hinges to match my
>chrome and stainless 'Laredo' package.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)



The alloy SS it is play a big roll in quality too. I would ask them
what alloy they are using because some SS alloys are not good for
this. (they use them because it is easier to machine)
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Earle Horton 04-10-2007 06:41 PM

Re: Re: SILLY QUESTION -- JUST NEED AN OPINION FROM EVERYONE
 
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:kk2o135kqfkumnp78sd2lrm4bv8gnjf3pi@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 15:54:52 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Tracie wrote:
> >> On Apr 10, 2:40 pm, SnoMan <a...@snoman.com> wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:03:59 -0600, "Earle Horton"
> >>>
> >>> <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
> >>>> Stainless scratches if you touch it and then you make it look worse

when you
> >>>> try to polish it.
> >>> It takes more than a touch to scratch it as it is pretty tuff and it
> >>> is not hard to polish out scratches if you do it right. You just need
> >>> the right method and compound.
> >>> -----------------
> >>> TheSnoMan.com
> >>
> >> I have heard of Kentrol. They are supposed to be good. Anybody know
> >> anything about Rugged Ridge stainless hinges?
> >>

> >
> >There are some 'real' bad suppliers of 'stainless' out there. The worst
> >was 'stealhorse' which had to dump the name and farm out under new names
> >because no one would buy their products anymore. Their 'stainless' came
> >rusted right in the package, literally, as I have seen a few.
> >
> >I don't know what names they are trying to sucker people under these
> >days unfortunately, maybe others do?
> >
> >Kentrol is known for stainless that lasts.
> >
> >If you plan on off roading, plan on your hinges getting scratched. They
> >are the last place a branch hooks up on as it slides past your hood.
> >Snoman doesn't off road so he has no experience with 'custom pin
> >striping' on his J10 snowplow. LOL!
> >
> >I have never seen any coatings that would stay on stainless over time.
> >They all chip off. Not saying some newer stuff might not stick, but...
> >
> >If I ever get more money than I know what to do with, after I put a new
> >frame in my CJ7 Laredo, I might go with stainless hinges to match my
> >chrome and stainless 'Laredo' package.
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>
>
> The alloy SS it is play a big roll in quality too. I would ask them
> what alloy they are using because some SS alloys are not good for
> this. (they use them because it is easier to machine)
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com


Heh, unless you're a metallurgist what they tell you will be meaningless.
There is of course a compromise between durability and machine-ability.
Watch out for "chrome" parts too. Chrome plating is a different process
than stainless. Are there lots of stainless and chromed J-10 parts
available?

Saludos,

Earle



Earle Horton 04-10-2007 06:41 PM

Re: Re: SILLY QUESTION -- JUST NEED AN OPINION FROM EVERYONE
 
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:kk2o135kqfkumnp78sd2lrm4bv8gnjf3pi@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 15:54:52 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Tracie wrote:
> >> On Apr 10, 2:40 pm, SnoMan <a...@snoman.com> wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:03:59 -0600, "Earle Horton"
> >>>
> >>> <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
> >>>> Stainless scratches if you touch it and then you make it look worse

when you
> >>>> try to polish it.
> >>> It takes more than a touch to scratch it as it is pretty tuff and it
> >>> is not hard to polish out scratches if you do it right. You just need
> >>> the right method and compound.
> >>> -----------------
> >>> TheSnoMan.com
> >>
> >> I have heard of Kentrol. They are supposed to be good. Anybody know
> >> anything about Rugged Ridge stainless hinges?
> >>

> >
> >There are some 'real' bad suppliers of 'stainless' out there. The worst
> >was 'stealhorse' which had to dump the name and farm out under new names
> >because no one would buy their products anymore. Their 'stainless' came
> >rusted right in the package, literally, as I have seen a few.
> >
> >I don't know what names they are trying to sucker people under these
> >days unfortunately, maybe others do?
> >
> >Kentrol is known for stainless that lasts.
> >
> >If you plan on off roading, plan on your hinges getting scratched. They
> >are the last place a branch hooks up on as it slides past your hood.
> >Snoman doesn't off road so he has no experience with 'custom pin
> >striping' on his J10 snowplow. LOL!
> >
> >I have never seen any coatings that would stay on stainless over time.
> >They all chip off. Not saying some newer stuff might not stick, but...
> >
> >If I ever get more money than I know what to do with, after I put a new
> >frame in my CJ7 Laredo, I might go with stainless hinges to match my
> >chrome and stainless 'Laredo' package.
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>
>
> The alloy SS it is play a big roll in quality too. I would ask them
> what alloy they are using because some SS alloys are not good for
> this. (they use them because it is easier to machine)
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com


Heh, unless you're a metallurgist what they tell you will be meaningless.
There is of course a compromise between durability and machine-ability.
Watch out for "chrome" parts too. Chrome plating is a different process
than stainless. Are there lots of stainless and chromed J-10 parts
available?

Saludos,

Earle



Earle Horton 04-10-2007 06:41 PM

Re: Re: SILLY QUESTION -- JUST NEED AN OPINION FROM EVERYONE
 
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:kk2o135kqfkumnp78sd2lrm4bv8gnjf3pi@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 15:54:52 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Tracie wrote:
> >> On Apr 10, 2:40 pm, SnoMan <a...@snoman.com> wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:03:59 -0600, "Earle Horton"
> >>>
> >>> <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
> >>>> Stainless scratches if you touch it and then you make it look worse

when you
> >>>> try to polish it.
> >>> It takes more than a touch to scratch it as it is pretty tuff and it
> >>> is not hard to polish out scratches if you do it right. You just need
> >>> the right method and compound.
> >>> -----------------
> >>> TheSnoMan.com
> >>
> >> I have heard of Kentrol. They are supposed to be good. Anybody know
> >> anything about Rugged Ridge stainless hinges?
> >>

> >
> >There are some 'real' bad suppliers of 'stainless' out there. The worst
> >was 'stealhorse' which had to dump the name and farm out under new names
> >because no one would buy their products anymore. Their 'stainless' came
> >rusted right in the package, literally, as I have seen a few.
> >
> >I don't know what names they are trying to sucker people under these
> >days unfortunately, maybe others do?
> >
> >Kentrol is known for stainless that lasts.
> >
> >If you plan on off roading, plan on your hinges getting scratched. They
> >are the last place a branch hooks up on as it slides past your hood.
> >Snoman doesn't off road so he has no experience with 'custom pin
> >striping' on his J10 snowplow. LOL!
> >
> >I have never seen any coatings that would stay on stainless over time.
> >They all chip off. Not saying some newer stuff might not stick, but...
> >
> >If I ever get more money than I know what to do with, after I put a new
> >frame in my CJ7 Laredo, I might go with stainless hinges to match my
> >chrome and stainless 'Laredo' package.
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>
>
> The alloy SS it is play a big roll in quality too. I would ask them
> what alloy they are using because some SS alloys are not good for
> this. (they use them because it is easier to machine)
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com


Heh, unless you're a metallurgist what they tell you will be meaningless.
There is of course a compromise between durability and machine-ability.
Watch out for "chrome" parts too. Chrome plating is a different process
than stainless. Are there lots of stainless and chromed J-10 parts
available?

Saludos,

Earle



Heatwave 04-10-2007 08:25 PM

Re: SILLY QUESTION -- JUST NEED AN OPINION FROM EVERYONE
 
In article <461beb7a$0$22696$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.c om>,
romainm@sympatico.ca says...
> There are some 'real' bad suppliers of 'stainless' out there. The worst
> was 'stealhorse' which had to dump the name and farm out under new names
> because no one would buy their products anymore. Their 'stainless' came
> rusted right in the package, literally, as I have seen a few.


You want to look for 304 stainless. Most other grades have to much
carbon.

> I don't know what names they are trying to sucker people under these
> days unfortunately, maybe others do?
>
> Kentrol is known for stainless that lasts.
>
> If you plan on off roading, plan on your hinges getting scratched. They
> are the last place a branch hooks up on as it slides past your hood.
> Snoman doesn't off road so he has no experience with 'custom pin
> striping' on his J10 snowplow. LOL!
>
> I have never seen any coatings that would stay on stainless over time.
> They all chip off. Not saying some newer stuff might not stick, but...


Don't bother painting stainless... IMO it seems pointless even if you do
get it to stick.

> If I ever get more money than I know what to do with, after I put a new
> frame in my CJ7 Laredo, I might go with stainless hinges to match my
> chrome and stainless 'Laredo' package.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)




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