This should be interesting.......
10-14-2005, 11:11 PM
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Re: This should be interesting.......
perhaps the schtick is over done, but group dynamics is rather fascinating,
one of the unique characteristics is that people often times adapt to their
social environment so readily that they themselves are not aware of their
own behavioral changes and often begin to act in a primitive instinctual
manner........
or maybe that's the whiskey talking
:-)
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>> More likely they just came out from under a bridge somewhere and
> could not find a billy goat to observe. Google groups is much
> faster for passively observing group dynamics... but the whole
> schtick has been so overwhelmingly overdone any professor with a
> femtoclue would flunk anyone using such a cliched' project.
>
one of the unique characteristics is that people often times adapt to their
social environment so readily that they themselves are not aware of their
own behavioral changes and often begin to act in a primitive instinctual
manner........
or maybe that's the whiskey talking
:-)
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:GMKdncT7XYi0wc3eRVn-jA@comcast.com...
>> More likely they just came out from under a bridge somewhere and
> could not find a billy goat to observe. Google groups is much
> faster for passively observing group dynamics... but the whole
> schtick has been so overwhelmingly overdone any professor with a
> femtoclue would flunk anyone using such a cliched' project.
>
10-14-2005, 11:11 PM
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Re: This should be interesting.......
perhaps the schtick is over done, but group dynamics is rather fascinating,
one of the unique characteristics is that people often times adapt to their
social environment so readily that they themselves are not aware of their
own behavioral changes and often begin to act in a primitive instinctual
manner........
or maybe that's the whiskey talking
:-)
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:GMKdncT7XYi0wc3eRVn-jA@comcast.com...
>> More likely they just came out from under a bridge somewhere and
> could not find a billy goat to observe. Google groups is much
> faster for passively observing group dynamics... but the whole
> schtick has been so overwhelmingly overdone any professor with a
> femtoclue would flunk anyone using such a cliched' project.
>
one of the unique characteristics is that people often times adapt to their
social environment so readily that they themselves are not aware of their
own behavioral changes and often begin to act in a primitive instinctual
manner........
or maybe that's the whiskey talking
:-)
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:GMKdncT7XYi0wc3eRVn-jA@comcast.com...
>> More likely they just came out from under a bridge somewhere and
> could not find a billy goat to observe. Google groups is much
> faster for passively observing group dynamics... but the whole
> schtick has been so overwhelmingly overdone any professor with a
> femtoclue would flunk anyone using such a cliched' project.
>
10-15-2005, 12:19 AM
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Re: This should be interesting.......
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
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: Isn't there a theory that says something like the mere act of observing
: changes the subject of the observation?
My observations concur with your observation of observations.
10-15-2005, 12:19 AM
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Re: This should be interesting.......
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
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: Isn't there a theory that says something like the mere act of observing
: changes the subject of the observation?
My observations concur with your observation of observations.
10-15-2005, 12:19 AM
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Re: This should be interesting.......
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
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: Isn't there a theory that says something like the mere act of observing
: changes the subject of the observation?
My observations concur with your observation of observations.
10-15-2005, 12:21 AM
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Re: This should be interesting.......
"jaco" <jaco@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
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: perhaps the schtick is over done, but group dynamics is rather
fascinating,
: one of the unique characteristics is that people often times adapt to
their
: social environment so readily that they themselves are not aware of their
: own behavioral changes and often begin to act in a primitive instinctual
: manner........
:
: or maybe that's the whiskey talking
:
::-)
I'm not thinking it's the whiskey, I didn't hear you slur one single word.
;ŹD
Kate
10-15-2005, 12:21 AM
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Re: This should be interesting.......
"jaco" <jaco@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
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: perhaps the schtick is over done, but group dynamics is rather
fascinating,
: one of the unique characteristics is that people often times adapt to
their
: social environment so readily that they themselves are not aware of their
: own behavioral changes and often begin to act in a primitive instinctual
: manner........
:
: or maybe that's the whiskey talking
:
::-)
I'm not thinking it's the whiskey, I didn't hear you slur one single word.
;ŹD
Kate
10-15-2005, 12:21 AM
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Re: This should be interesting.......
"jaco" <jaco@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
news:qr_3f.298$8K4.117@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
: perhaps the schtick is over done, but group dynamics is rather
fascinating,
: one of the unique characteristics is that people often times adapt to
their
: social environment so readily that they themselves are not aware of their
: own behavioral changes and often begin to act in a primitive instinctual
: manner........
:
: or maybe that's the whiskey talking
:
::-)
I'm not thinking it's the whiskey, I didn't hear you slur one single word.
;ŹD
Kate
10-15-2005, 04:32 AM
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Re: This should be interesting.......
Heisenberg Uncertainty Principal ; in order to predict the position and
velocity of a particle you have to be able to mesaure its present position
and velocity by shining light on it; some of the light will be scattered by
the particle indicating its position. However, the light will also change
the particles position, and the shorter the wavelength of light you shine on
it (which you would have thought would make the position more accurately
observed) the higher the amount of energy you require, and the more you move
the particle.
:-)
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
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> Isn't there a theory that says something like the mere act of observing
> changes the subject of the observation?
>
>
> --
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:GMKdncT7XYi0wc3eRVn-jA@comcast.com...
> > SVTKate proclaimed:
> >> Which participant are you observing?
> >
> > The ones that worry about being observed?
> >
> >> If you were REALLY planning to quietly observe, why did you speak up in
> >> the first place?
> >
> > How then, would they have identified those who care one way or the
> > other about whether or not they are being observed?
> >>
> >> Of course you realize that now you MUST tell us what you are up to, who
> >> you are doing, and why you are doing them.
> >
> > More likely they just came out from under a bridge somewhere and
> > could not find a billy goat to observe. Google groups is much
> > faster for passively observing group dynamics... but the whole
> > schtick has been so overwhelmingly overdone any professor with a
> > femtoclue would flunk anyone using such a cliched' project.
> >>
> >> *WEG*
> >>
> >> Kate
> >>
> >> "Square Wheels" <intrepidator@your_cervix_gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:UbW3f.189900$1i.164532@pd7tw2no...
> >> : .....now that I can finally access this group.
> >> :
> >> : Just here to observe and continue my psychological assessment of a
> >> group
> >> : participant.
> >> :
> >> : I'll be very quiet.
> >> :
> >> :
> >> : --
> >> : A mound is a terrible thing to waste.
> >> :
>
>
velocity of a particle you have to be able to mesaure its present position
and velocity by shining light on it; some of the light will be scattered by
the particle indicating its position. However, the light will also change
the particles position, and the shorter the wavelength of light you shine on
it (which you would have thought would make the position more accurately
observed) the higher the amount of energy you require, and the more you move
the particle.
:-)
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:f13f4$4350604d$d8449845$1847@FUSE.NET...
> Isn't there a theory that says something like the mere act of observing
> changes the subject of the observation?
>
>
> --
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:GMKdncT7XYi0wc3eRVn-jA@comcast.com...
> > SVTKate proclaimed:
> >> Which participant are you observing?
> >
> > The ones that worry about being observed?
> >
> >> If you were REALLY planning to quietly observe, why did you speak up in
> >> the first place?
> >
> > How then, would they have identified those who care one way or the
> > other about whether or not they are being observed?
> >>
> >> Of course you realize that now you MUST tell us what you are up to, who
> >> you are doing, and why you are doing them.
> >
> > More likely they just came out from under a bridge somewhere and
> > could not find a billy goat to observe. Google groups is much
> > faster for passively observing group dynamics... but the whole
> > schtick has been so overwhelmingly overdone any professor with a
> > femtoclue would flunk anyone using such a cliched' project.
> >>
> >> *WEG*
> >>
> >> Kate
> >>
> >> "Square Wheels" <intrepidator@your_cervix_gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:UbW3f.189900$1i.164532@pd7tw2no...
> >> : .....now that I can finally access this group.
> >> :
> >> : Just here to observe and continue my psychological assessment of a
> >> group
> >> : participant.
> >> :
> >> : I'll be very quiet.
> >> :
> >> :
> >> : --
> >> : A mound is a terrible thing to waste.
> >> :
>
>
10-15-2005, 04:32 AM
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Re: This should be interesting.......
Heisenberg Uncertainty Principal ; in order to predict the position and
velocity of a particle you have to be able to mesaure its present position
and velocity by shining light on it; some of the light will be scattered by
the particle indicating its position. However, the light will also change
the particles position, and the shorter the wavelength of light you shine on
it (which you would have thought would make the position more accurately
observed) the higher the amount of energy you require, and the more you move
the particle.
:-)
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:f13f4$4350604d$d8449845$1847@FUSE.NET...
> Isn't there a theory that says something like the mere act of observing
> changes the subject of the observation?
>
>
> --
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:GMKdncT7XYi0wc3eRVn-jA@comcast.com...
> > SVTKate proclaimed:
> >> Which participant are you observing?
> >
> > The ones that worry about being observed?
> >
> >> If you were REALLY planning to quietly observe, why did you speak up in
> >> the first place?
> >
> > How then, would they have identified those who care one way or the
> > other about whether or not they are being observed?
> >>
> >> Of course you realize that now you MUST tell us what you are up to, who
> >> you are doing, and why you are doing them.
> >
> > More likely they just came out from under a bridge somewhere and
> > could not find a billy goat to observe. Google groups is much
> > faster for passively observing group dynamics... but the whole
> > schtick has been so overwhelmingly overdone any professor with a
> > femtoclue would flunk anyone using such a cliched' project.
> >>
> >> *WEG*
> >>
> >> Kate
> >>
> >> "Square Wheels" <intrepidator@your_cervix_gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:UbW3f.189900$1i.164532@pd7tw2no...
> >> : .....now that I can finally access this group.
> >> :
> >> : Just here to observe and continue my psychological assessment of a
> >> group
> >> : participant.
> >> :
> >> : I'll be very quiet.
> >> :
> >> :
> >> : --
> >> : A mound is a terrible thing to waste.
> >> :
>
>
velocity of a particle you have to be able to mesaure its present position
and velocity by shining light on it; some of the light will be scattered by
the particle indicating its position. However, the light will also change
the particles position, and the shorter the wavelength of light you shine on
it (which you would have thought would make the position more accurately
observed) the higher the amount of energy you require, and the more you move
the particle.
:-)
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:f13f4$4350604d$d8449845$1847@FUSE.NET...
> Isn't there a theory that says something like the mere act of observing
> changes the subject of the observation?
>
>
> --
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:GMKdncT7XYi0wc3eRVn-jA@comcast.com...
> > SVTKate proclaimed:
> >> Which participant are you observing?
> >
> > The ones that worry about being observed?
> >
> >> If you were REALLY planning to quietly observe, why did you speak up in
> >> the first place?
> >
> > How then, would they have identified those who care one way or the
> > other about whether or not they are being observed?
> >>
> >> Of course you realize that now you MUST tell us what you are up to, who
> >> you are doing, and why you are doing them.
> >
> > More likely they just came out from under a bridge somewhere and
> > could not find a billy goat to observe. Google groups is much
> > faster for passively observing group dynamics... but the whole
> > schtick has been so overwhelmingly overdone any professor with a
> > femtoclue would flunk anyone using such a cliched' project.
> >>
> >> *WEG*
> >>
> >> Kate
> >>
> >> "Square Wheels" <intrepidator@your_cervix_gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:UbW3f.189900$1i.164532@pd7tw2no...
> >> : .....now that I can finally access this group.
> >> :
> >> : Just here to observe and continue my psychological assessment of a
> >> group
> >> : participant.
> >> :
> >> : I'll be very quiet.
> >> :
> >> :
> >> : --
> >> : A mound is a terrible thing to waste.
> >> :
>
>