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Dick 08-12-2006 02:07 PM

Re: Shock absorbers for 1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9
 
On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 10:10:19 -0700, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
wrote:

>For general highway use with your off-road never needing to rock crawl,
>the Edelebrock IAS is an excellent choice.


In general I agree with you. They are the best shocks I have tried on
my JGC. However, they don't help at all on washboard roads. Don't
know if any shocks would help that situation. Need a more compliant
suspension.

----

bobmct 08-14-2006 10:38 PM

Re: Shock absorbers for 1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9
 
Doug wrote:

> We bought a 98 5.9 limited Grand Cherokee last November for the occasional
> weekend trip and once or twice a year to Oregon and Nevada.
>
> Some of these trips are in winter with at least some snow. We very
> occasionally drive dirt roads, both dry and wet. My Honda Civic would
> have no trouble other than all the bouncing around.
>
> The previous owner put on Yokohama Geolander tires, K&N air intake, and
> Flowmaster exhaust. Everything else appears stock, the sticker under the
> hood indicates that the computer is factory, I guess we don't know for
> sure. It passed CA smog.
>
> This beast needs shocks, it appears to have the factory units ( 75k miles
> ).
>
> After looking around, it appears that the Edelbrock Performer IAS is a
> good choice.
>
> What other shocks should I consider?
>
> Thanks,
> Doug


FWIW: I put those on my 96 JGC and quite frankly I didn't like them. After
another 30K or so I replaced them with new OEM HD shocks which are still in
service at 175K. So spend your money on different product.

B

bobmct 08-14-2006 10:38 PM

Re: Shock absorbers for 1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9
 
Doug wrote:

> We bought a 98 5.9 limited Grand Cherokee last November for the occasional
> weekend trip and once or twice a year to Oregon and Nevada.
>
> Some of these trips are in winter with at least some snow. We very
> occasionally drive dirt roads, both dry and wet. My Honda Civic would
> have no trouble other than all the bouncing around.
>
> The previous owner put on Yokohama Geolander tires, K&N air intake, and
> Flowmaster exhaust. Everything else appears stock, the sticker under the
> hood indicates that the computer is factory, I guess we don't know for
> sure. It passed CA smog.
>
> This beast needs shocks, it appears to have the factory units ( 75k miles
> ).
>
> After looking around, it appears that the Edelbrock Performer IAS is a
> good choice.
>
> What other shocks should I consider?
>
> Thanks,
> Doug


FWIW: I put those on my 96 JGC and quite frankly I didn't like them. After
another 30K or so I replaced them with new OEM HD shocks which are still in
service at 175K. So spend your money on different product.

B

bobmct 08-14-2006 10:38 PM

Re: Shock absorbers for 1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9
 
Doug wrote:

> We bought a 98 5.9 limited Grand Cherokee last November for the occasional
> weekend trip and once or twice a year to Oregon and Nevada.
>
> Some of these trips are in winter with at least some snow. We very
> occasionally drive dirt roads, both dry and wet. My Honda Civic would
> have no trouble other than all the bouncing around.
>
> The previous owner put on Yokohama Geolander tires, K&N air intake, and
> Flowmaster exhaust. Everything else appears stock, the sticker under the
> hood indicates that the computer is factory, I guess we don't know for
> sure. It passed CA smog.
>
> This beast needs shocks, it appears to have the factory units ( 75k miles
> ).
>
> After looking around, it appears that the Edelbrock Performer IAS is a
> good choice.
>
> What other shocks should I consider?
>
> Thanks,
> Doug


FWIW: I put those on my 96 JGC and quite frankly I didn't like them. After
another 30K or so I replaced them with new OEM HD shocks which are still in
service at 175K. So spend your money on different product.

B

bobmct 08-14-2006 10:38 PM

Re: Shock absorbers for 1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9
 
Doug wrote:

> We bought a 98 5.9 limited Grand Cherokee last November for the occasional
> weekend trip and once or twice a year to Oregon and Nevada.
>
> Some of these trips are in winter with at least some snow. We very
> occasionally drive dirt roads, both dry and wet. My Honda Civic would
> have no trouble other than all the bouncing around.
>
> The previous owner put on Yokohama Geolander tires, K&N air intake, and
> Flowmaster exhaust. Everything else appears stock, the sticker under the
> hood indicates that the computer is factory, I guess we don't know for
> sure. It passed CA smog.
>
> This beast needs shocks, it appears to have the factory units ( 75k miles
> ).
>
> After looking around, it appears that the Edelbrock Performer IAS is a
> good choice.
>
> What other shocks should I consider?
>
> Thanks,
> Doug


FWIW: I put those on my 96 JGC and quite frankly I didn't like them. After
another 30K or so I replaced them with new OEM HD shocks which are still in
service at 175K. So spend your money on different product.

B

Doug 08-15-2006 08:33 PM

Re: Shock absorbers for 1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9: Thanks to everybody!
 
The short story: I am going to get the Edelbrock IAS performers. Thanks to
everyone who responded.

I was surprised how long it took somebody to tell me to get OEM replacements
considering I indicated that while I own this ZJ it will never go 'off
road'. Well, intentionally anyway...

I agree with billy ray that the roughest this ZJ has ever seen is a county
fair parking lot.
In my original post I tried to say that it probably will not get any
rougher. I think it was set up for towing, ski boat maybe?

For anybody who cares, here are my thoughts on your feedback:

Rancho air adjustables: I just don't need adjustables. Maybe if I were going
to off-road or tow something big. But then, towing something big with a ZJ
is probably not such a good idea.

Monroe's at Sears: I considered these after reading billy ray's reply. The
problem here is that I've been bitten by the Edelbrock IAS marketing
machine, which started this whole thing... billy ray seems to think that the
Edelbrock IAS shocks are off-road shocks. I do not know, this is why I
asked.

Carl and Lon helped solidify my desire for the IAS's.

bobmct didn't play. I appreciate bobmct's opinion and thought about it some.
I considered OEM shocks. The 'UpCountry' OEM replacement shocks might be a
good choice.

And thanks to Sparky, but the OME shocks do not seem appropriate for this
situation.

Thanks to the following folks in no particular order. I apologize if I
missed somebody, I did read all the replies my ISP provided.

dougw:

I like mine, but if I had to do it again (and will in about another
year) I would go with some air-adjustable ones like the Rancho.
Pushed these shocks hard and they work well. Thing is I'm not so sure
they don't sustain deathwobble by being softer when the suspension is
relaxed. Probably a better shock for the rear axle. Then again the
design has had over nine years to mature since I got mine.


billy ray:

Sears has Monroe GasMatic LT shocks on sale 40% off ($17.99)

I'm guessing by the vehicle type (5.9 Limited), previous 'improvements'
(Yokohama Geolander tires, K&N air intake, and Flowmaster exhaust) that this
ZJ never went any further off the pavement than parking in a field for the
county fair.

Unless you seriously plan on going off-road I would not buy off-road shocks
and you will not appreciate their on-road ride.

Carl:
I had edelbrock IAS on a TJ. They were a little bouncy, but that's a TJ.
Overall, I liked them.

Lon:
Kinda depends on you. The Rancho RSX9000 adjustable allows you to
change your shocks from highway to offroad. The newest version of their
control *appears* to have resolved most of the leak issues with the
older units. If your Nevada trip includes some of the higher speed
non-highway but non-hardcore trails, they are kinda nice as you can
cruise a bit higher speed without needing a kidney belt. Then if you go
into the rougher trails you can adjust them again quickly. I have
these, with the newer model remote and do like the ability to change
damping quickly between highway and offroad--since my creditors prefer I
spend most time on road.

For general highway use with your off-road never needing to rock crawl,
the Edelebrock IAS is an excellent choice.

bobmct:
FWIW: I put those on my 96 JGC and quite frankly I didn't like them. After
another 30K or so I replaced them with new OEM HD shocks which are still in
service at 175K. So spend your money on different product.


Sparky:
I use and recommend the OME (Old Man Emu) shocks.



Doug 08-15-2006 08:33 PM

Re: Shock absorbers for 1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9: Thanks to everybody!
 
The short story: I am going to get the Edelbrock IAS performers. Thanks to
everyone who responded.

I was surprised how long it took somebody to tell me to get OEM replacements
considering I indicated that while I own this ZJ it will never go 'off
road'. Well, intentionally anyway...

I agree with billy ray that the roughest this ZJ has ever seen is a county
fair parking lot.
In my original post I tried to say that it probably will not get any
rougher. I think it was set up for towing, ski boat maybe?

For anybody who cares, here are my thoughts on your feedback:

Rancho air adjustables: I just don't need adjustables. Maybe if I were going
to off-road or tow something big. But then, towing something big with a ZJ
is probably not such a good idea.

Monroe's at Sears: I considered these after reading billy ray's reply. The
problem here is that I've been bitten by the Edelbrock IAS marketing
machine, which started this whole thing... billy ray seems to think that the
Edelbrock IAS shocks are off-road shocks. I do not know, this is why I
asked.

Carl and Lon helped solidify my desire for the IAS's.

bobmct didn't play. I appreciate bobmct's opinion and thought about it some.
I considered OEM shocks. The 'UpCountry' OEM replacement shocks might be a
good choice.

And thanks to Sparky, but the OME shocks do not seem appropriate for this
situation.

Thanks to the following folks in no particular order. I apologize if I
missed somebody, I did read all the replies my ISP provided.

dougw:

I like mine, but if I had to do it again (and will in about another
year) I would go with some air-adjustable ones like the Rancho.
Pushed these shocks hard and they work well. Thing is I'm not so sure
they don't sustain deathwobble by being softer when the suspension is
relaxed. Probably a better shock for the rear axle. Then again the
design has had over nine years to mature since I got mine.


billy ray:

Sears has Monroe GasMatic LT shocks on sale 40% off ($17.99)

I'm guessing by the vehicle type (5.9 Limited), previous 'improvements'
(Yokohama Geolander tires, K&N air intake, and Flowmaster exhaust) that this
ZJ never went any further off the pavement than parking in a field for the
county fair.

Unless you seriously plan on going off-road I would not buy off-road shocks
and you will not appreciate their on-road ride.

Carl:
I had edelbrock IAS on a TJ. They were a little bouncy, but that's a TJ.
Overall, I liked them.

Lon:
Kinda depends on you. The Rancho RSX9000 adjustable allows you to
change your shocks from highway to offroad. The newest version of their
control *appears* to have resolved most of the leak issues with the
older units. If your Nevada trip includes some of the higher speed
non-highway but non-hardcore trails, they are kinda nice as you can
cruise a bit higher speed without needing a kidney belt. Then if you go
into the rougher trails you can adjust them again quickly. I have
these, with the newer model remote and do like the ability to change
damping quickly between highway and offroad--since my creditors prefer I
spend most time on road.

For general highway use with your off-road never needing to rock crawl,
the Edelebrock IAS is an excellent choice.

bobmct:
FWIW: I put those on my 96 JGC and quite frankly I didn't like them. After
another 30K or so I replaced them with new OEM HD shocks which are still in
service at 175K. So spend your money on different product.


Sparky:
I use and recommend the OME (Old Man Emu) shocks.



Doug 08-15-2006 08:33 PM

Re: Shock absorbers for 1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9: Thanks to everybody!
 
The short story: I am going to get the Edelbrock IAS performers. Thanks to
everyone who responded.

I was surprised how long it took somebody to tell me to get OEM replacements
considering I indicated that while I own this ZJ it will never go 'off
road'. Well, intentionally anyway...

I agree with billy ray that the roughest this ZJ has ever seen is a county
fair parking lot.
In my original post I tried to say that it probably will not get any
rougher. I think it was set up for towing, ski boat maybe?

For anybody who cares, here are my thoughts on your feedback:

Rancho air adjustables: I just don't need adjustables. Maybe if I were going
to off-road or tow something big. But then, towing something big with a ZJ
is probably not such a good idea.

Monroe's at Sears: I considered these after reading billy ray's reply. The
problem here is that I've been bitten by the Edelbrock IAS marketing
machine, which started this whole thing... billy ray seems to think that the
Edelbrock IAS shocks are off-road shocks. I do not know, this is why I
asked.

Carl and Lon helped solidify my desire for the IAS's.

bobmct didn't play. I appreciate bobmct's opinion and thought about it some.
I considered OEM shocks. The 'UpCountry' OEM replacement shocks might be a
good choice.

And thanks to Sparky, but the OME shocks do not seem appropriate for this
situation.

Thanks to the following folks in no particular order. I apologize if I
missed somebody, I did read all the replies my ISP provided.

dougw:

I like mine, but if I had to do it again (and will in about another
year) I would go with some air-adjustable ones like the Rancho.
Pushed these shocks hard and they work well. Thing is I'm not so sure
they don't sustain deathwobble by being softer when the suspension is
relaxed. Probably a better shock for the rear axle. Then again the
design has had over nine years to mature since I got mine.


billy ray:

Sears has Monroe GasMatic LT shocks on sale 40% off ($17.99)

I'm guessing by the vehicle type (5.9 Limited), previous 'improvements'
(Yokohama Geolander tires, K&N air intake, and Flowmaster exhaust) that this
ZJ never went any further off the pavement than parking in a field for the
county fair.

Unless you seriously plan on going off-road I would not buy off-road shocks
and you will not appreciate their on-road ride.

Carl:
I had edelbrock IAS on a TJ. They were a little bouncy, but that's a TJ.
Overall, I liked them.

Lon:
Kinda depends on you. The Rancho RSX9000 adjustable allows you to
change your shocks from highway to offroad. The newest version of their
control *appears* to have resolved most of the leak issues with the
older units. If your Nevada trip includes some of the higher speed
non-highway but non-hardcore trails, they are kinda nice as you can
cruise a bit higher speed without needing a kidney belt. Then if you go
into the rougher trails you can adjust them again quickly. I have
these, with the newer model remote and do like the ability to change
damping quickly between highway and offroad--since my creditors prefer I
spend most time on road.

For general highway use with your off-road never needing to rock crawl,
the Edelebrock IAS is an excellent choice.

bobmct:
FWIW: I put those on my 96 JGC and quite frankly I didn't like them. After
another 30K or so I replaced them with new OEM HD shocks which are still in
service at 175K. So spend your money on different product.


Sparky:
I use and recommend the OME (Old Man Emu) shocks.



Doug 08-15-2006 08:33 PM

Re: Shock absorbers for 1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9: Thanks to everybody!
 
The short story: I am going to get the Edelbrock IAS performers. Thanks to
everyone who responded.

I was surprised how long it took somebody to tell me to get OEM replacements
considering I indicated that while I own this ZJ it will never go 'off
road'. Well, intentionally anyway...

I agree with billy ray that the roughest this ZJ has ever seen is a county
fair parking lot.
In my original post I tried to say that it probably will not get any
rougher. I think it was set up for towing, ski boat maybe?

For anybody who cares, here are my thoughts on your feedback:

Rancho air adjustables: I just don't need adjustables. Maybe if I were going
to off-road or tow something big. But then, towing something big with a ZJ
is probably not such a good idea.

Monroe's at Sears: I considered these after reading billy ray's reply. The
problem here is that I've been bitten by the Edelbrock IAS marketing
machine, which started this whole thing... billy ray seems to think that the
Edelbrock IAS shocks are off-road shocks. I do not know, this is why I
asked.

Carl and Lon helped solidify my desire for the IAS's.

bobmct didn't play. I appreciate bobmct's opinion and thought about it some.
I considered OEM shocks. The 'UpCountry' OEM replacement shocks might be a
good choice.

And thanks to Sparky, but the OME shocks do not seem appropriate for this
situation.

Thanks to the following folks in no particular order. I apologize if I
missed somebody, I did read all the replies my ISP provided.

dougw:

I like mine, but if I had to do it again (and will in about another
year) I would go with some air-adjustable ones like the Rancho.
Pushed these shocks hard and they work well. Thing is I'm not so sure
they don't sustain deathwobble by being softer when the suspension is
relaxed. Probably a better shock for the rear axle. Then again the
design has had over nine years to mature since I got mine.


billy ray:

Sears has Monroe GasMatic LT shocks on sale 40% off ($17.99)

I'm guessing by the vehicle type (5.9 Limited), previous 'improvements'
(Yokohama Geolander tires, K&N air intake, and Flowmaster exhaust) that this
ZJ never went any further off the pavement than parking in a field for the
county fair.

Unless you seriously plan on going off-road I would not buy off-road shocks
and you will not appreciate their on-road ride.

Carl:
I had edelbrock IAS on a TJ. They were a little bouncy, but that's a TJ.
Overall, I liked them.

Lon:
Kinda depends on you. The Rancho RSX9000 adjustable allows you to
change your shocks from highway to offroad. The newest version of their
control *appears* to have resolved most of the leak issues with the
older units. If your Nevada trip includes some of the higher speed
non-highway but non-hardcore trails, they are kinda nice as you can
cruise a bit higher speed without needing a kidney belt. Then if you go
into the rougher trails you can adjust them again quickly. I have
these, with the newer model remote and do like the ability to change
damping quickly between highway and offroad--since my creditors prefer I
spend most time on road.

For general highway use with your off-road never needing to rock crawl,
the Edelebrock IAS is an excellent choice.

bobmct:
FWIW: I put those on my 96 JGC and quite frankly I didn't like them. After
another 30K or so I replaced them with new OEM HD shocks which are still in
service at 175K. So spend your money on different product.


Sparky:
I use and recommend the OME (Old Man Emu) shocks.



Carl 08-15-2006 08:41 PM

Re: Shock absorbers for 1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9: Thanks to everybody!
 
Sounds like a solid choice, Doug. I've never used OME (old man emu) but they
do come very highly reccomended. You can check them out at
www.rocky-road.com .

Let us know how you like whichever ones you get.

Carl


"Doug" <nono@nono.com> wrote in message
news:6dWdncQHS9Vv-n_ZnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> The short story: I am going to get the Edelbrock IAS performers. Thanks to
> everyone who responded.
>
> I was surprised how long it took somebody to tell me to get OEM
> replacements considering I indicated that while I own this ZJ it will
> never go 'off road'. Well, intentionally anyway...
>
> I agree with billy ray that the roughest this ZJ has ever seen is a county
> fair parking lot.
> In my original post I tried to say that it probably will not get any
> rougher. I think it was set up for towing, ski boat maybe?
>
> For anybody who cares, here are my thoughts on your feedback:
>
> Rancho air adjustables: I just don't need adjustables. Maybe if I were
> going to off-road or tow something big. But then, towing something big
> with a ZJ is probably not such a good idea.
>
> Monroe's at Sears: I considered these after reading billy ray's reply. The
> problem here is that I've been bitten by the Edelbrock IAS marketing
> machine, which started this whole thing... billy ray seems to think that
> the Edelbrock IAS shocks are off-road shocks. I do not know, this is why I
> asked.
>
> Carl and Lon helped solidify my desire for the IAS's.
>
> bobmct didn't play. I appreciate bobmct's opinion and thought about it
> some. I considered OEM shocks. The 'UpCountry' OEM replacement shocks
> might be a good choice.
>
> And thanks to Sparky, but the OME shocks do not seem appropriate for this
> situation.
>
> Thanks to the following folks in no particular order. I apologize if I
> missed somebody, I did read all the replies my ISP provided.
>
> dougw:
>
> I like mine, but if I had to do it again (and will in about another
> year) I would go with some air-adjustable ones like the Rancho.
> Pushed these shocks hard and they work well. Thing is I'm not so sure
> they don't sustain deathwobble by being softer when the suspension is
> relaxed. Probably a better shock for the rear axle. Then again the
> design has had over nine years to mature since I got mine.
>
>
> billy ray:
>
> Sears has Monroe GasMatic LT shocks on sale 40% off ($17.99)
>
> I'm guessing by the vehicle type (5.9 Limited), previous 'improvements'
> (Yokohama Geolander tires, K&N air intake, and Flowmaster exhaust) that
> this
> ZJ never went any further off the pavement than parking in a field for the
> county fair.
>
> Unless you seriously plan on going off-road I would not buy off-road
> shocks
> and you will not appreciate their on-road ride.
>
> Carl:
> I had edelbrock IAS on a TJ. They were a little bouncy, but that's a TJ.
> Overall, I liked them.
>
> Lon:
> Kinda depends on you. The Rancho RSX9000 adjustable allows you to
> change your shocks from highway to offroad. The newest version of their
> control *appears* to have resolved most of the leak issues with the
> older units. If your Nevada trip includes some of the higher speed
> non-highway but non-hardcore trails, they are kinda nice as you can
> cruise a bit higher speed without needing a kidney belt. Then if you go
> into the rougher trails you can adjust them again quickly. I have
> these, with the newer model remote and do like the ability to change
> damping quickly between highway and offroad--since my creditors prefer I
> spend most time on road.
>
> For general highway use with your off-road never needing to rock crawl,
> the Edelebrock IAS is an excellent choice.
>
> bobmct:
> FWIW: I put those on my 96 JGC and quite frankly I didn't like them.
> After
> another 30K or so I replaced them with new OEM HD shocks which are still
> in
> service at 175K. So spend your money on different product.
>
>
> Sparky:
> I use and recommend the OME (Old Man Emu) shocks.
>
>





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