Lon Stowell

Big Daddy wrote:

> Dave Milne wrote:
>
>> Saw an H2 for the first time on Saturday. Boy is that a strange vehicle. I
>> especially "liked" the plastic bumper with the plastic fold at the
>> corners. I knew it looked like a Tonka toy, but that bumper wasn't up to
>> the Tonka toy standard ! It also looks like the control arms are cast.
>> Anyhow, I cant see many people shelling out $94,800 bucks for one when
>> they could have a Range Rover for less...
>
> @$94K+, you could have the H1. The H2 cost more like $50+.


But you could trade the H1 in on a Jag KJR and the H2 in
on a GC Overland.

Big Daddy

Earle Horton wrote:

> Over here people are buying them up like hot cakes...

They're nothing more than a Chevy Tahoe in drag, and not much more capable
off-road. A stock Wrangler Sport would trounce one.

Dave Milne

I'm sure you know the difference ! I was just pointing out I, the OP, knew
the difference as well :-)

--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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: Aware of the difference, one of the larger HumVee dealers is
: only a coupla clicks down the boulevard, and the person allegedly
: responsible for making them available to civvies may be my
: next governor.
:
: Dave Milne wrote:
:
: > No Lon, they are so completely different I couldn't imagine anyone
making
: > that mistake.. Although I know of only 1 H1 in private hands in the UK,
you
: > can see them on the tv every 5 minutes.
: >
: >
http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/WWW...t=1&make=HUMME
: >
R&min_pr=&postcode=b168xq&source=0&model=H2&max_pr =&sort=3&miles=1500&max_re
: > cords=50&search.x=35&search.y=8
: >
: >
: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: > "Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
: > news:e7ScnQYHU9HQRICiXTWJhw@comcast.com...
: > :
: > : Wonder if the H2, aka GMC in butch nightgown, is being confused
: > : with the original HumVee.
: > :
: > : Billy Tolcher wrote:
: > :
: > : > Must less than 94000.. aren't they? I thought they were like..
$55k
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: > : > news:3eiTa.605$pA2.6428948@news-text.cableinet.net...
: > : >> Saw an H2 for the first time on Saturday. Boy is that a strange
: > vehicle. I
: > : >> especially "liked" the plastic bumper with the plastic fold at the
: > : > corners.
: > : >> I knew it looked like a Tonka toy, but that bumper wasn't up to the
: > Tonka
: > : >> toy standard ! It also looks like the control arms are cast.
Anyhow, I
: > : > cant
: > : >> see many people shelling out $94,800 bucks for one when they could
have
: > a
: > : >> Range Rover for less...
: > : >>
: > : >> Dave Milne, Scotland
: > : >> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: > : >>
: > : >> "Big Daddy" <DontBother@nowhere.com> wrote in message
: > : >> news:3f19eeb2$0$73636$a0465688@nnrp.fuse.net...
: > : >> : Jeff Olsen wrote:
: > : >> :
: > : >> : > That's not correct. Heck, my 3.07-geared Sport with 30's and a
: > : > Trak-lok
: > : >> : > will go places, easily, that my Nissan 4x4 pickup would never
go.
: > : > Much
: > : >> : > less a Honda. You are grossly understating the capabilities of
: > even a
: > : >> : > stock TJ, much less a Rubi.
: > : >> :
: > : >>
: > : >>
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: >
: >
:

Nathan W. Collier

"Big Daddy" <DontBother@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> A stock Wrangler Sport would trounce one.

depending upon the terrain, a stock SE would trounce one. watch the h2 try
to play in the rocks at http://7slotgrille.com/multimedia/whyhummerssuck.wmv
notice that the rock the h2 is hanging up on (in front of the passenger side
front tire) is about the size of a foot ball.

btw, im not responsible for the background music in that video!

if you require further proof of the lack of hummer off road prowess, see
http://7slotgrille.com/hummer


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com

Big Daddy

Nathan W. Collier wrote:

> "Big Daddy" <DontBother@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:3f1eff06$0$73625$a0465688@nnrp.fuse.net...
>> A stock Wrangler Sport would trounce one.
>
> depending upon the terrain, a stock SE would trounce one. watch the h2
> try to play in the rocks at
> http://7slotgrille.com/multimedia/whyhummerssuck.wmv notice that the rock
> the h2 is hanging up on (in front of the passenger side front tire) is
> about the size of a foot ball.

To the credit of the Hummer, it was more than just the rock holding it back.
The wheels that were propelled couldn't get traction and that wheel wasn't
driven, since it had no limited slip or locker. That situation could hold
up any Wrangler that has an open front diff.

Nathan W. Collier

"Big Daddy" <DontBother@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> That situation could hold
> up any Wrangler that has an open front diff.

maybe.....but i never had any problems at all with my stock '00 in places a
lot more aggressive than that. although video can be deceiving.


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com

Eric

It's amazing how something can be so steep or difficult to get through/over,
and when you bring the pic up to show people, they look at you as if you've
gone nuts and any car could have done that...

I haven't figured out how to take pictures that do the trails justice. If
that hummer looked like that on film, I'm sure my TJ would've gotten stuck
too. Of course, who knows, maybe a shorter wheelbase and more narrow widtch
could have made a difference too.

Eric
99 TJ SE
"Nathan W. Collier" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Big Daddy" <DontBother@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:3f1f39b2$0$74134$a04e5680@nnrp.fuse.net...
> > That situation could hold
> > up any Wrangler that has an open front diff.
>
> maybe.....but i never had any problems at all with my stock '00 in places
a
> lot more aggressive than that. although video can be deceiving.
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>

Big Daddy

Eric wrote:

> It's amazing how something can be so steep or difficult to get
> through/over, and when you bring the pic up to show people, they look at
> you as if you've gone nuts and any car could have done that...
>
> I haven't figured out how to take pictures that do the trails justice. If
> that hummer looked like that on film, I'm sure my TJ would've gotten stuck
> too. Of course, who knows, maybe a shorter wheelbase and more narrow
> widtch could have made a difference too.

Or maybe a good spotter that guided you _around_ the obstacle.