Steve

I kept my BFG MTs on all last winter. They're not as good as a true snow
tire on the street, but when I dump them down to 5 psi in the deep
stuff, they'll take me anywhere. I may try a set of 33x9.50 BFG AT for
street driving this winter.

I believe that your Procomp XTs will perform better than a traditional
MT in the snow. The directional tread is an advantage and your lugs are
siped for better grip on slick surfaces. Try them and let us know.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

Steve wrote:
>
> separate question....as we had some rain yesterday, I found that my tires
> were actually pretty slicked on the wet pavement.
> Do you guys change out your MT tires come winter?

Steve

I kept my BFG MTs on all last winter. They're not as good as a true snow
tire on the street, but when I dump them down to 5 psi in the deep
stuff, they'll take me anywhere. I may try a set of 33x9.50 BFG AT for
street driving this winter.

I believe that your Procomp XTs will perform better than a traditional
MT in the snow. The directional tread is an advantage and your lugs are
siped for better grip on slick surfaces. Try them and let us know.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

Steve wrote:
>
> separate question....as we had some rain yesterday, I found that my tires
> were actually pretty slicked on the wet pavement.
> Do you guys change out your MT tires come winter?

Steve

I kept my BFG MTs on all last winter. They're not as good as a true snow
tire on the street, but when I dump them down to 5 psi in the deep
stuff, they'll take me anywhere. I may try a set of 33x9.50 BFG AT for
street driving this winter.

I believe that your Procomp XTs will perform better than a traditional
MT in the snow. The directional tread is an advantage and your lugs are
siped for better grip on slick surfaces. Try them and let us know.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

Steve wrote:
>
> separate question....as we had some rain yesterday, I found that my tires
> were actually pretty slicked on the wet pavement.
> Do you guys change out your MT tires come winter?

Jeff Strickland

"Steve" <sbrady1(woo hoo)@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:L0oWe.3819$1G4.605790@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:BsudnTyWY7GNMLTeRVn-pw@ez2.net...
>>
>> "Steve" <sbrady1(woo hoo)@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:tkcWe.3031$6Z1.755497@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>>> Ok....but what's the point of having a spare.....to throw on when you
>>> have an unrepairable flat.
>>>
>>> Actually, now that I think (it happens)....my spare can't just go on
>>> either side as it's a directional tread too. haha....
>>>
>>> So is there an issue with running your tread backwards...as in the
>>> spare...so temporarily?!
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Me thinks you're confused.
>>
>> You do not have directional tires, you have tires that have an inside and
>> an outside, and they must be mounted on the rim the right way, but they
>> can be used on either side of your Jeep. If they have an arrow that
>> indicates that the tire must turn "this way", then they are directional,
>> but if they simply say "outside", they are not directional.
>>
>> I have tires on my BMW that say, "outside", but they can be swapped from
>> side to side because the outside remains on the outside as long as the
>> tire is on the rim right. A Directional Tire has a Rotation Direction
>> indicator molded on it, and a spare with a direction wouldn't be very
>> useful if it was for a left hand rotation, and it was needed in a right
>> hand application.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> I do hate bottom posting...haha
> I DO have directional tires. I have the arrow.
> I understand that these can only go on one way....and that the rims DO
> have an inside and outside...
> so unless I remount my tires, I can't flip them to either side.
>
> And to be honest, I hadn't notice people with "real" spares. Would make
> sense....but frig, if I have to drive 50km with my tread on backwards, who
> cares. I imagine it only really counts for how it "exorcises" the mud.
>
>
>

If you have the arrow, then you have directional tires. Directional, and
Outside are different though. That's my point.

And, you're right, if you drive 50 miles with the tread on backwards, not
much will happen. Having said that, the directional tires are designed to
wick the water away in one direction, but not in the other. I suppose you
could face traction issues in certain circumstances too. But to put all of
this in perspective, you will have just come off a trail where you spent at
least some portion of the day with only three tires on the ground, you will
have climbed over rocks and stumps, and perhaps slid sideways several feet
while giving serious consideration of emptying your bladder in an
involuntary reaction to the whole ordeal. A few miles with a tire on
backwards isn't gong to be an issue in the grand scheme of things.

Jeff Strickland

"Steve" <sbrady1(woo hoo)@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:L0oWe.3819$1G4.605790@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:BsudnTyWY7GNMLTeRVn-pw@ez2.net...
>>
>> "Steve" <sbrady1(woo hoo)@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:tkcWe.3031$6Z1.755497@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>>> Ok....but what's the point of having a spare.....to throw on when you
>>> have an unrepairable flat.
>>>
>>> Actually, now that I think (it happens)....my spare can't just go on
>>> either side as it's a directional tread too. haha....
>>>
>>> So is there an issue with running your tread backwards...as in the
>>> spare...so temporarily?!
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Me thinks you're confused.
>>
>> You do not have directional tires, you have tires that have an inside and
>> an outside, and they must be mounted on the rim the right way, but they
>> can be used on either side of your Jeep. If they have an arrow that
>> indicates that the tire must turn "this way", then they are directional,
>> but if they simply say "outside", they are not directional.
>>
>> I have tires on my BMW that say, "outside", but they can be swapped from
>> side to side because the outside remains on the outside as long as the
>> tire is on the rim right. A Directional Tire has a Rotation Direction
>> indicator molded on it, and a spare with a direction wouldn't be very
>> useful if it was for a left hand rotation, and it was needed in a right
>> hand application.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> I do hate bottom posting...haha
> I DO have directional tires. I have the arrow.
> I understand that these can only go on one way....and that the rims DO
> have an inside and outside...
> so unless I remount my tires, I can't flip them to either side.
>
> And to be honest, I hadn't notice people with "real" spares. Would make
> sense....but frig, if I have to drive 50km with my tread on backwards, who
> cares. I imagine it only really counts for how it "exorcises" the mud.
>
>
>

If you have the arrow, then you have directional tires. Directional, and
Outside are different though. That's my point.

And, you're right, if you drive 50 miles with the tread on backwards, not
much will happen. Having said that, the directional tires are designed to
wick the water away in one direction, but not in the other. I suppose you
could face traction issues in certain circumstances too. But to put all of
this in perspective, you will have just come off a trail where you spent at
least some portion of the day with only three tires on the ground, you will
have climbed over rocks and stumps, and perhaps slid sideways several feet
while giving serious consideration of emptying your bladder in an
involuntary reaction to the whole ordeal. A few miles with a tire on
backwards isn't gong to be an issue in the grand scheme of things.

Jeff Strickland

"Steve" <sbrady1(woo hoo)@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:L0oWe.3819$1G4.605790@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:BsudnTyWY7GNMLTeRVn-pw@ez2.net...
>>
>> "Steve" <sbrady1(woo hoo)@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:tkcWe.3031$6Z1.755497@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>>> Ok....but what's the point of having a spare.....to throw on when you
>>> have an unrepairable flat.
>>>
>>> Actually, now that I think (it happens)....my spare can't just go on
>>> either side as it's a directional tread too. haha....
>>>
>>> So is there an issue with running your tread backwards...as in the
>>> spare...so temporarily?!
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Me thinks you're confused.
>>
>> You do not have directional tires, you have tires that have an inside and
>> an outside, and they must be mounted on the rim the right way, but they
>> can be used on either side of your Jeep. If they have an arrow that
>> indicates that the tire must turn "this way", then they are directional,
>> but if they simply say "outside", they are not directional.
>>
>> I have tires on my BMW that say, "outside", but they can be swapped from
>> side to side because the outside remains on the outside as long as the
>> tire is on the rim right. A Directional Tire has a Rotation Direction
>> indicator molded on it, and a spare with a direction wouldn't be very
>> useful if it was for a left hand rotation, and it was needed in a right
>> hand application.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> I do hate bottom posting...haha
> I DO have directional tires. I have the arrow.
> I understand that these can only go on one way....and that the rims DO
> have an inside and outside...
> so unless I remount my tires, I can't flip them to either side.
>
> And to be honest, I hadn't notice people with "real" spares. Would make
> sense....but frig, if I have to drive 50km with my tread on backwards, who
> cares. I imagine it only really counts for how it "exorcises" the mud.
>
>
>

If you have the arrow, then you have directional tires. Directional, and
Outside are different though. That's my point.

And, you're right, if you drive 50 miles with the tread on backwards, not
much will happen. Having said that, the directional tires are designed to
wick the water away in one direction, but not in the other. I suppose you
could face traction issues in certain circumstances too. But to put all of
this in perspective, you will have just come off a trail where you spent at
least some portion of the day with only three tires on the ground, you will
have climbed over rocks and stumps, and perhaps slid sideways several feet
while giving serious consideration of emptying your bladder in an
involuntary reaction to the whole ordeal. A few miles with a tire on
backwards isn't gong to be an issue in the grand scheme of things.

Jeff Strickland

"Steve" <sbrady1(woo hoo)@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:C2oWe.3820$1G4.606105@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> Ya I was curious...but, running a tire backwards is no big deal.
>
> separate question....as we had some rain yesterday, I found that my tires
> were actually pretty slicked on the wet pavement.
> Do you guys change out your MT tires come winter?
>


Winter? What's that? We have Fall, Spring, and Summer, and a few months when
we need to wear socks.





>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:dtidnXLk8rJHNrTeRVn-1Q@ez2.net...
>>I do not rotate my tires on my Jeep. They tend to wear out pretty evenly,
>>although I'll be the first to admit the wear pattern on each tire is
>>different. I have stumbled into a problem, I have a brand spanking new BFG
>>Mud Terrain, 32x11.50 that is no longer available. When I buy new tires,
>>the MT is now the MT/KM and has a different tread pattern.
>>
>> Yes, you may have stress issues, but I suggest that you stress the diffs
>> much more while wheeling than you'll ever stress them from having a new
>> tire on one side and an old tire on the other. Drive home on the new tire
>> and visit the tire store to get the old tire repaired or replaced, and
>> hang the new tire back on the rack, or put the two new tires on the back,
>> the best of the old tires on the front, and the best remaining old tire
>> on the rack, and go wheeling again.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Steve" <sbrady1(woo hoo)@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:H24We.2894$6Z1.689710@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>>> OK.....these are mud tires....so I expect more wear than on a standard
>>> tire.
>>> So, if I don't rotate in teh spare.....30,000km down the road when I've
>>> worn Xinches off my tires and I go to put on my spare which still has
>>> the little bristles things on it.....will i not stress gearage and
>>> bearings by having one tire large than another on the same axle?
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:__2dnQ376qbfDrXeRVn-jA@ez2.net...
>>>> Rotate from front to back, and leave the spare on the rack. Don't make
>>>> this harder than it needs to be.
>>>>
>>>> PS
>>>> The IN side of the tire is always toward the Jeep, but the tires turn
>>>> one way (CCW) on the left side, and the other way (CW) on the right
>>>> side.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Steve" <sbrady1(woo hoo)@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:HIIVe.2262$1G4.314991@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> Love my new 31" Procomp XT's...lookin meaner than those sissy stock
>>>>> tires ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyhow, I'm coming up to a mileage point where I should rotate tires.
>>>>> I'd like to bring in my spare too....but seeing as the front left tire
>>>>> would go to the right rear, how can you do this if you can't flip the
>>>>> tire around (to keep the IN-side of the rim towards the jeep)??
>>>>>
>>>>> Rims are American racing 797's.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Jeff Strickland

"Steve" <sbrady1(woo hoo)@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:C2oWe.3820$1G4.606105@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> Ya I was curious...but, running a tire backwards is no big deal.
>
> separate question....as we had some rain yesterday, I found that my tires
> were actually pretty slicked on the wet pavement.
> Do you guys change out your MT tires come winter?
>


Winter? What's that? We have Fall, Spring, and Summer, and a few months when
we need to wear socks.





>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:dtidnXLk8rJHNrTeRVn-1Q@ez2.net...
>>I do not rotate my tires on my Jeep. They tend to wear out pretty evenly,
>>although I'll be the first to admit the wear pattern on each tire is
>>different. I have stumbled into a problem, I have a brand spanking new BFG
>>Mud Terrain, 32x11.50 that is no longer available. When I buy new tires,
>>the MT is now the MT/KM and has a different tread pattern.
>>
>> Yes, you may have stress issues, but I suggest that you stress the diffs
>> much more while wheeling than you'll ever stress them from having a new
>> tire on one side and an old tire on the other. Drive home on the new tire
>> and visit the tire store to get the old tire repaired or replaced, and
>> hang the new tire back on the rack, or put the two new tires on the back,
>> the best of the old tires on the front, and the best remaining old tire
>> on the rack, and go wheeling again.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Steve" <sbrady1(woo hoo)@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:H24We.2894$6Z1.689710@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>>> OK.....these are mud tires....so I expect more wear than on a standard
>>> tire.
>>> So, if I don't rotate in teh spare.....30,000km down the road when I've
>>> worn Xinches off my tires and I go to put on my spare which still has
>>> the little bristles things on it.....will i not stress gearage and
>>> bearings by having one tire large than another on the same axle?
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:__2dnQ376qbfDrXeRVn-jA@ez2.net...
>>>> Rotate from front to back, and leave the spare on the rack. Don't make
>>>> this harder than it needs to be.
>>>>
>>>> PS
>>>> The IN side of the tire is always toward the Jeep, but the tires turn
>>>> one way (CCW) on the left side, and the other way (CW) on the right
>>>> side.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Steve" <sbrady1(woo hoo)@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:HIIVe.2262$1G4.314991@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> Love my new 31" Procomp XT's...lookin meaner than those sissy stock
>>>>> tires ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyhow, I'm coming up to a mileage point where I should rotate tires.
>>>>> I'd like to bring in my spare too....but seeing as the front left tire
>>>>> would go to the right rear, how can you do this if you can't flip the
>>>>> tire around (to keep the IN-side of the rim towards the jeep)??
>>>>>
>>>>> Rims are American racing 797's.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Jeff Strickland

"Steve" <sbrady1(woo hoo)@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:C2oWe.3820$1G4.606105@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> Ya I was curious...but, running a tire backwards is no big deal.
>
> separate question....as we had some rain yesterday, I found that my tires
> were actually pretty slicked on the wet pavement.
> Do you guys change out your MT tires come winter?
>


Winter? What's that? We have Fall, Spring, and Summer, and a few months when
we need to wear socks.





>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:dtidnXLk8rJHNrTeRVn-1Q@ez2.net...
>>I do not rotate my tires on my Jeep. They tend to wear out pretty evenly,
>>although I'll be the first to admit the wear pattern on each tire is
>>different. I have stumbled into a problem, I have a brand spanking new BFG
>>Mud Terrain, 32x11.50 that is no longer available. When I buy new tires,
>>the MT is now the MT/KM and has a different tread pattern.
>>
>> Yes, you may have stress issues, but I suggest that you stress the diffs
>> much more while wheeling than you'll ever stress them from having a new
>> tire on one side and an old tire on the other. Drive home on the new tire
>> and visit the tire store to get the old tire repaired or replaced, and
>> hang the new tire back on the rack, or put the two new tires on the back,
>> the best of the old tires on the front, and the best remaining old tire
>> on the rack, and go wheeling again.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Steve" <sbrady1(woo hoo)@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:H24We.2894$6Z1.689710@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>>> OK.....these are mud tires....so I expect more wear than on a standard
>>> tire.
>>> So, if I don't rotate in teh spare.....30,000km down the road when I've
>>> worn Xinches off my tires and I go to put on my spare which still has
>>> the little bristles things on it.....will i not stress gearage and
>>> bearings by having one tire large than another on the same axle?
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:__2dnQ376qbfDrXeRVn-jA@ez2.net...
>>>> Rotate from front to back, and leave the spare on the rack. Don't make
>>>> this harder than it needs to be.
>>>>
>>>> PS
>>>> The IN side of the tire is always toward the Jeep, but the tires turn
>>>> one way (CCW) on the left side, and the other way (CW) on the right
>>>> side.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Steve" <sbrady1(woo hoo)@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:HIIVe.2262$1G4.314991@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> Love my new 31" Procomp XT's...lookin meaner than those sissy stock
>>>>> tires ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyhow, I'm coming up to a mileage point where I should rotate tires.
>>>>> I'd like to bring in my spare too....but seeing as the front left tire
>>>>> would go to the right rear, how can you do this if you can't flip the
>>>>> tire around (to keep the IN-side of the rim towards the jeep)??
>>>>>
>>>>> Rims are American racing 797's.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>