Rocky-Road outfitters update
12-18-2006, 10:55 AM
#21
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Re: Rocky-Road outfitters update - Update #2
When I buy new ball joints and tie rod ends and u-joints, they just come
with an empty hole and either the zerk fittings and/or small blocking
bolts. These fittings are 'self threading' tapered fittings. They are
supposed to be screwed in, not pressed in.
'I' have never had a failure of one in over 30 years of changing them.
It's now too late to thread the holes or to try and self tap them with
new fittings.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Carl wrote:
>
> Kate,
> I'm going to call and complain next week. I would expect cheesy 'pressed
> in' grease nipples from "Steel Horse" brand shackles, but I had expected RRO
> to be as they had claimed, 'High Quality'. Would it be that hard to tap the
> hole and put a threaded fitting in there?
>
> I will likely not buy from or reccomend RRO to anyone. Low quality product,
> slow processing time, poor quality. The jury is still out on customer
> service.
>
> Carl
>
> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
> news:zcdhh.2565$AY1.350@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
> >
> > "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> > news:qNidnZizgZcRiRnYnZ2dnUVZ_smonZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >>I called RRO about 20 minutes after the OP. They said they had a shipment
> >>coming in but didn't know if my lights were on that shipment. They
> >>promised to give me a call in a few hours. Nearly 24 hours later, nothing.
> >>
> >> On a side note, my initial impressions about the shackles is now less
> >> than stellar. The grease nipples, instead of being threaded in, are a
> >> press fit. The nipples have a threaded end. They both fell out before
> >> ever making it onto the Jeep.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >
> > Oh well - crap!
> > So, what are you going to do?
> >
> > Kate
> >
with an empty hole and either the zerk fittings and/or small blocking
bolts. These fittings are 'self threading' tapered fittings. They are
supposed to be screwed in, not pressed in.
'I' have never had a failure of one in over 30 years of changing them.
It's now too late to thread the holes or to try and self tap them with
new fittings.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Carl wrote:
>
> Kate,
> I'm going to call and complain next week. I would expect cheesy 'pressed
> in' grease nipples from "Steel Horse" brand shackles, but I had expected RRO
> to be as they had claimed, 'High Quality'. Would it be that hard to tap the
> hole and put a threaded fitting in there?
>
> I will likely not buy from or reccomend RRO to anyone. Low quality product,
> slow processing time, poor quality. The jury is still out on customer
> service.
>
> Carl
>
> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
> news:zcdhh.2565$AY1.350@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
> >
> > "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> > news:qNidnZizgZcRiRnYnZ2dnUVZ_smonZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >>I called RRO about 20 minutes after the OP. They said they had a shipment
> >>coming in but didn't know if my lights were on that shipment. They
> >>promised to give me a call in a few hours. Nearly 24 hours later, nothing.
> >>
> >> On a side note, my initial impressions about the shackles is now less
> >> than stellar. The grease nipples, instead of being threaded in, are a
> >> press fit. The nipples have a threaded end. They both fell out before
> >> ever making it onto the Jeep.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >
> > Oh well - crap!
> > So, what are you going to do?
> >
> > Kate
> >
12-18-2006, 10:55 AM
#22
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Re: Rocky-Road outfitters update - Update #2
When I buy new ball joints and tie rod ends and u-joints, they just come
with an empty hole and either the zerk fittings and/or small blocking
bolts. These fittings are 'self threading' tapered fittings. They are
supposed to be screwed in, not pressed in.
'I' have never had a failure of one in over 30 years of changing them.
It's now too late to thread the holes or to try and self tap them with
new fittings.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Carl wrote:
>
> Kate,
> I'm going to call and complain next week. I would expect cheesy 'pressed
> in' grease nipples from "Steel Horse" brand shackles, but I had expected RRO
> to be as they had claimed, 'High Quality'. Would it be that hard to tap the
> hole and put a threaded fitting in there?
>
> I will likely not buy from or reccomend RRO to anyone. Low quality product,
> slow processing time, poor quality. The jury is still out on customer
> service.
>
> Carl
>
> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
> news:zcdhh.2565$AY1.350@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
> >
> > "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> > news:qNidnZizgZcRiRnYnZ2dnUVZ_smonZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >>I called RRO about 20 minutes after the OP. They said they had a shipment
> >>coming in but didn't know if my lights were on that shipment. They
> >>promised to give me a call in a few hours. Nearly 24 hours later, nothing.
> >>
> >> On a side note, my initial impressions about the shackles is now less
> >> than stellar. The grease nipples, instead of being threaded in, are a
> >> press fit. The nipples have a threaded end. They both fell out before
> >> ever making it onto the Jeep.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >
> > Oh well - crap!
> > So, what are you going to do?
> >
> > Kate
> >
with an empty hole and either the zerk fittings and/or small blocking
bolts. These fittings are 'self threading' tapered fittings. They are
supposed to be screwed in, not pressed in.
'I' have never had a failure of one in over 30 years of changing them.
It's now too late to thread the holes or to try and self tap them with
new fittings.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Carl wrote:
>
> Kate,
> I'm going to call and complain next week. I would expect cheesy 'pressed
> in' grease nipples from "Steel Horse" brand shackles, but I had expected RRO
> to be as they had claimed, 'High Quality'. Would it be that hard to tap the
> hole and put a threaded fitting in there?
>
> I will likely not buy from or reccomend RRO to anyone. Low quality product,
> slow processing time, poor quality. The jury is still out on customer
> service.
>
> Carl
>
> "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
> news:zcdhh.2565$AY1.350@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
> >
> > "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> > news:qNidnZizgZcRiRnYnZ2dnUVZ_smonZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >>I called RRO about 20 minutes after the OP. They said they had a shipment
> >>coming in but didn't know if my lights were on that shipment. They
> >>promised to give me a call in a few hours. Nearly 24 hours later, nothing.
> >>
> >> On a side note, my initial impressions about the shackles is now less
> >> than stellar. The grease nipples, instead of being threaded in, are a
> >> press fit. The nipples have a threaded end. They both fell out before
> >> ever making it onto the Jeep.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >
> > Oh well - crap!
> > So, what are you going to do?
> >
> > Kate
> >
12-18-2006, 12:42 PM
#26
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Re: Rocky-Road outfitters update - Update #2
Kate wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
> *snip*
> >
> > It's now too late to thread the holes or to try and self tap them with
> > new fittings.
>
> Why?
>
> Kate
Because the 'hardened' self tapping fittings were pressed into a soft
steel hole and fell out already. This means the fittings already have
reamed the hole out to their size.
I guess if you could find a larger diameter zirk, you could drill a
larger hole.
You could also 'maybe' block the original hole and drill one right
beside it to screw the fittings into if there was room.
But these are new and basically garbage as they sit.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
> *snip*
> >
> > It's now too late to thread the holes or to try and self tap them with
> > new fittings.
>
> Why?
>
> Kate
Because the 'hardened' self tapping fittings were pressed into a soft
steel hole and fell out already. This means the fittings already have
reamed the hole out to their size.
I guess if you could find a larger diameter zirk, you could drill a
larger hole.
You could also 'maybe' block the original hole and drill one right
beside it to screw the fittings into if there was room.
But these are new and basically garbage as they sit.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
12-18-2006, 12:42 PM
#27
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Re: Rocky-Road outfitters update - Update #2
Kate wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
> *snip*
> >
> > It's now too late to thread the holes or to try and self tap them with
> > new fittings.
>
> Why?
>
> Kate
Because the 'hardened' self tapping fittings were pressed into a soft
steel hole and fell out already. This means the fittings already have
reamed the hole out to their size.
I guess if you could find a larger diameter zirk, you could drill a
larger hole.
You could also 'maybe' block the original hole and drill one right
beside it to screw the fittings into if there was room.
But these are new and basically garbage as they sit.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
> *snip*
> >
> > It's now too late to thread the holes or to try and self tap them with
> > new fittings.
>
> Why?
>
> Kate
Because the 'hardened' self tapping fittings were pressed into a soft
steel hole and fell out already. This means the fittings already have
reamed the hole out to their size.
I guess if you could find a larger diameter zirk, you could drill a
larger hole.
You could also 'maybe' block the original hole and drill one right
beside it to screw the fittings into if there was room.
But these are new and basically garbage as they sit.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
12-18-2006, 12:42 PM
#28
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Re: Rocky-Road outfitters update - Update #2
Kate wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
> *snip*
> >
> > It's now too late to thread the holes or to try and self tap them with
> > new fittings.
>
> Why?
>
> Kate
Because the 'hardened' self tapping fittings were pressed into a soft
steel hole and fell out already. This means the fittings already have
reamed the hole out to their size.
I guess if you could find a larger diameter zirk, you could drill a
larger hole.
You could also 'maybe' block the original hole and drill one right
beside it to screw the fittings into if there was room.
But these are new and basically garbage as they sit.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
> *snip*
> >
> > It's now too late to thread the holes or to try and self tap them with
> > new fittings.
>
> Why?
>
> Kate
Because the 'hardened' self tapping fittings were pressed into a soft
steel hole and fell out already. This means the fittings already have
reamed the hole out to their size.
I guess if you could find a larger diameter zirk, you could drill a
larger hole.
You could also 'maybe' block the original hole and drill one right
beside it to screw the fittings into if there was room.
But these are new and basically garbage as they sit.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
12-18-2006, 11:25 PM
#29
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Re: Rocky-Road outfitters update - Update #2
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4586D2F7.B61BFC2F@sympatico.ca...
> Kate wrote:
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
>> *snip*
>> >
>> > It's now too late to thread the holes or to try and self tap them with
>> > new fittings.
>>
>> Why?
>>
>> Kate
>
> Because the 'hardened' self tapping fittings were pressed into a soft
> steel hole and fell out already. This means the fittings already have
> reamed the hole out to their size.
>
> I guess if you could find a larger diameter zirk, you could drill a
> larger hole.
>
> You could also 'maybe' block the original hole and drill one right
> beside it to screw the fittings into if there was room.
>
> But these are new and basically garbage as they sit.
>
That was my thought on it. I didn't know that the bases of the pressed in
type were the same diameter as the threaded type.
See, I learned something today.
Kate
12-18-2006, 11:25 PM
#30
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Re: Rocky-Road outfitters update - Update #2
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4586D2F7.B61BFC2F@sympatico.ca...
> Kate wrote:
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote
>> *snip*
>> >
>> > It's now too late to thread the holes or to try and self tap them with
>> > new fittings.
>>
>> Why?
>>
>> Kate
>
> Because the 'hardened' self tapping fittings were pressed into a soft
> steel hole and fell out already. This means the fittings already have
> reamed the hole out to their size.
>
> I guess if you could find a larger diameter zirk, you could drill a
> larger hole.
>
> You could also 'maybe' block the original hole and drill one right
> beside it to screw the fittings into if there was room.
>
> But these are new and basically garbage as they sit.
>
That was my thought on it. I didn't know that the bases of the pressed in
type were the same diameter as the threaded type.
See, I learned something today.
Kate
