Tracie

On Aug 17, 9:59 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> On Aug 17, 9:26 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > > OK.....just got off the phone with a major dealership here and was
> > > told that I may not need to upgrade to the 4.11 gears. They mentioned
> > > something about re-gearing the pinion factor thru the jeep's
> > > computer. Anyone heard of this? If so, is it effective?
>
> > Say What????
>
> > Good lord where do the $tealerships find these total idiots?
>
> > On the 2006 I believe you can 'recalibrate' the 'speedometer' for the
> > tire size via the computer where in the 'old days' we put a new
> > 'speedometer' gear into the transfer case. Mine has that so 33" tires
> > make my speedometer right on.
>
> > This has absolutely 'nothing' to do with the drive gears or how many rpm
> > you turn at say 65 mph, nothing at all!
>
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> I didn't think so either. That's why they're not getting my
> business. But, here are all the parts that I need for the conversion
> according to a reputable parts store.....
>
> Yukon D30TJ / D35 4.56 GEAR AND MASTER INSTALL KIT package deal $389,
> D30 3.73 up carrier $59, and D35 3.55 up 1.56 carrier $59. TOTAL
> Delivered to me $507.
>
> How does this price sound? I can have the whole thing installed for
> $250. Are there any other parts that I need for this conversion to be
> done properly and safely?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

How silly would 31 X 10.5 X 15 tires look with a 1.5 spacer suspension
lift kit? Can I still use my stock rims?

Tracie

On Aug 17, 9:59 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> On Aug 17, 9:26 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > > OK.....just got off the phone with a major dealership here and was
> > > told that I may not need to upgrade to the 4.11 gears. They mentioned
> > > something about re-gearing the pinion factor thru the jeep's
> > > computer. Anyone heard of this? If so, is it effective?
>
> > Say What????
>
> > Good lord where do the $tealerships find these total idiots?
>
> > On the 2006 I believe you can 'recalibrate' the 'speedometer' for the
> > tire size via the computer where in the 'old days' we put a new
> > 'speedometer' gear into the transfer case. Mine has that so 33" tires
> > make my speedometer right on.
>
> > This has absolutely 'nothing' to do with the drive gears or how many rpm
> > you turn at say 65 mph, nothing at all!
>
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> I didn't think so either. That's why they're not getting my
> business. But, here are all the parts that I need for the conversion
> according to a reputable parts store.....
>
> Yukon D30TJ / D35 4.56 GEAR AND MASTER INSTALL KIT package deal $389,
> D30 3.73 up carrier $59, and D35 3.55 up 1.56 carrier $59. TOTAL
> Delivered to me $507.
>
> How does this price sound? I can have the whole thing installed for
> $250. Are there any other parts that I need for this conversion to be
> done properly and safely?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

How silly would 31 X 10.5 X 15 tires look with a 1.5 spacer suspension
lift kit? Can I still use my stock rims?

Tracie

On Aug 17, 9:59 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> On Aug 17, 9:26 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > > OK.....just got off the phone with a major dealership here and was
> > > told that I may not need to upgrade to the 4.11 gears. They mentioned
> > > something about re-gearing the pinion factor thru the jeep's
> > > computer. Anyone heard of this? If so, is it effective?
>
> > Say What????
>
> > Good lord where do the $tealerships find these total idiots?
>
> > On the 2006 I believe you can 'recalibrate' the 'speedometer' for the
> > tire size via the computer where in the 'old days' we put a new
> > 'speedometer' gear into the transfer case. Mine has that so 33" tires
> > make my speedometer right on.
>
> > This has absolutely 'nothing' to do with the drive gears or how many rpm
> > you turn at say 65 mph, nothing at all!
>
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> I didn't think so either. That's why they're not getting my
> business. But, here are all the parts that I need for the conversion
> according to a reputable parts store.....
>
> Yukon D30TJ / D35 4.56 GEAR AND MASTER INSTALL KIT package deal $389,
> D30 3.73 up carrier $59, and D35 3.55 up 1.56 carrier $59. TOTAL
> Delivered to me $507.
>
> How does this price sound? I can have the whole thing installed for
> $250. Are there any other parts that I need for this conversion to be
> done properly and safely?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

How silly would 31 X 10.5 X 15 tires look with a 1.5 spacer suspension
lift kit? Can I still use my stock rims?

Mike Romain

Tracie wrote:
>
> How silly would 31 X 10.5 X 15 tires look with a 1.5 spacer suspension
> lift kit? Can I still use my stock rims?
>

You can use the stock rims and it will look very nice and balanced with
a 1.5 or 2" spacer lift.

Cheap and easy too. Then if you have the need or want, you can save the
pennies and go 'big' later.

The 31's will also very likely put your speedometer right on for
calibration. You check it with a GPS or measured mile.

Jeep usually calibrates the speedometer for the largest 'stock' tire
size which is the 31x10.5's. Well they used to, don't know now with the
computer tweaking ability. A GPS will tell.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain

Tracie wrote:
>
> How silly would 31 X 10.5 X 15 tires look with a 1.5 spacer suspension
> lift kit? Can I still use my stock rims?
>

You can use the stock rims and it will look very nice and balanced with
a 1.5 or 2" spacer lift.

Cheap and easy too. Then if you have the need or want, you can save the
pennies and go 'big' later.

The 31's will also very likely put your speedometer right on for
calibration. You check it with a GPS or measured mile.

Jeep usually calibrates the speedometer for the largest 'stock' tire
size which is the 31x10.5's. Well they used to, don't know now with the
computer tweaking ability. A GPS will tell.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain

Tracie wrote:
>
> How silly would 31 X 10.5 X 15 tires look with a 1.5 spacer suspension
> lift kit? Can I still use my stock rims?
>

You can use the stock rims and it will look very nice and balanced with
a 1.5 or 2" spacer lift.

Cheap and easy too. Then if you have the need or want, you can save the
pennies and go 'big' later.

The 31's will also very likely put your speedometer right on for
calibration. You check it with a GPS or measured mile.

Jeep usually calibrates the speedometer for the largest 'stock' tire
size which is the 31x10.5's. Well they used to, don't know now with the
computer tweaking ability. A GPS will tell.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain

Tracie wrote:
>
> How silly would 31 X 10.5 X 15 tires look with a 1.5 spacer suspension
> lift kit? Can I still use my stock rims?
>

You can use the stock rims and it will look very nice and balanced with
a 1.5 or 2" spacer lift.

Cheap and easy too. Then if you have the need or want, you can save the
pennies and go 'big' later.

The 31's will also very likely put your speedometer right on for
calibration. You check it with a GPS or measured mile.

Jeep usually calibrates the speedometer for the largest 'stock' tire
size which is the 31x10.5's. Well they used to, don't know now with the
computer tweaking ability. A GPS will tell.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Tracie

On Aug 17, 11:40 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Tracie wrote:
>
> > How silly would 31 X 10.5 X 15 tires look with a 1.5 spacer suspension
> > lift kit? Can I still use my stock rims?
>
> You can use the stock rims and it will look very nice and balanced with
> a 1.5 or 2" spacer lift.
>
> Cheap and easy too. Then if you have the need or want, you can save the
> pennies and go 'big' later.
>
> The 31's will also very likely put your speedometer right on for
> calibration. You check it with a GPS or measured mile.
>
> Jeep usually calibrates the speedometer for the largest 'stock' tire
> size which is the 31x10.5's. Well they used to, don't know now with the
> computer tweaking ability. A GPS will tell.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


WOO HOO!! PERFECT!! Alrighty then....

I just found a set of four 31X10.5 BFG Mudterrain TA tires on E-Bay
with less than 4000 miles for a starting bid of $100. S&H to me would
be another $100.

So, just to clear things up (for me--LOL).....
1.) I can go with a 2" coil spacer suspension lift (spacers are a
FULL 2") and still be able to use my stock rims with that lift? Would
I need 2" longer shocks?
2.) With the 2" spacer lift, would I have to drop the t-case or do
any other mods besides slapping it on?
3.) With the 31 X 10.5, how will this affect my performace (i.e. the
"tall" gear aspect)? Will I be OK with the 3.07s?
4.) I assume that I will need the speedo re-calibrated as well as an
alignment?

Can you think of anything that I have missed? I am thinking this is
the best way for me to get 3.5" of total lift for right now until I
get my pennies together for something bigger and better. And this way
is MUCH cheaper with FAR LESS headaches than a higher lift and bigger
than 31 inch tires.

Thank you soooo much for your patience and your help. I understand
why everyone requests your help with stuff like this. : )

Tracie

On Aug 17, 11:40 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Tracie wrote:
>
> > How silly would 31 X 10.5 X 15 tires look with a 1.5 spacer suspension
> > lift kit? Can I still use my stock rims?
>
> You can use the stock rims and it will look very nice and balanced with
> a 1.5 or 2" spacer lift.
>
> Cheap and easy too. Then if you have the need or want, you can save the
> pennies and go 'big' later.
>
> The 31's will also very likely put your speedometer right on for
> calibration. You check it with a GPS or measured mile.
>
> Jeep usually calibrates the speedometer for the largest 'stock' tire
> size which is the 31x10.5's. Well they used to, don't know now with the
> computer tweaking ability. A GPS will tell.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


WOO HOO!! PERFECT!! Alrighty then....

I just found a set of four 31X10.5 BFG Mudterrain TA tires on E-Bay
with less than 4000 miles for a starting bid of $100. S&H to me would
be another $100.

So, just to clear things up (for me--LOL).....
1.) I can go with a 2" coil spacer suspension lift (spacers are a
FULL 2") and still be able to use my stock rims with that lift? Would
I need 2" longer shocks?
2.) With the 2" spacer lift, would I have to drop the t-case or do
any other mods besides slapping it on?
3.) With the 31 X 10.5, how will this affect my performace (i.e. the
"tall" gear aspect)? Will I be OK with the 3.07s?
4.) I assume that I will need the speedo re-calibrated as well as an
alignment?

Can you think of anything that I have missed? I am thinking this is
the best way for me to get 3.5" of total lift for right now until I
get my pennies together for something bigger and better. And this way
is MUCH cheaper with FAR LESS headaches than a higher lift and bigger
than 31 inch tires.

Thank you soooo much for your patience and your help. I understand
why everyone requests your help with stuff like this. : )

Tracie

On Aug 17, 11:40 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Tracie wrote:
>
> > How silly would 31 X 10.5 X 15 tires look with a 1.5 spacer suspension
> > lift kit? Can I still use my stock rims?
>
> You can use the stock rims and it will look very nice and balanced with
> a 1.5 or 2" spacer lift.
>
> Cheap and easy too. Then if you have the need or want, you can save the
> pennies and go 'big' later.
>
> The 31's will also very likely put your speedometer right on for
> calibration. You check it with a GPS or measured mile.
>
> Jeep usually calibrates the speedometer for the largest 'stock' tire
> size which is the 31x10.5's. Well they used to, don't know now with the
> computer tweaking ability. A GPS will tell.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


WOO HOO!! PERFECT!! Alrighty then....

I just found a set of four 31X10.5 BFG Mudterrain TA tires on E-Bay
with less than 4000 miles for a starting bid of $100. S&H to me would
be another $100.

So, just to clear things up (for me--LOL).....
1.) I can go with a 2" coil spacer suspension lift (spacers are a
FULL 2") and still be able to use my stock rims with that lift? Would
I need 2" longer shocks?
2.) With the 2" spacer lift, would I have to drop the t-case or do
any other mods besides slapping it on?
3.) With the 31 X 10.5, how will this affect my performace (i.e. the
"tall" gear aspect)? Will I be OK with the 3.07s?
4.) I assume that I will need the speedo re-calibrated as well as an
alignment?

Can you think of anything that I have missed? I am thinking this is
the best way for me to get 3.5" of total lift for right now until I
get my pennies together for something bigger and better. And this way
is MUCH cheaper with FAR LESS headaches than a higher lift and bigger
than 31 inch tires.

Thank you soooo much for your patience and your help. I understand
why everyone requests your help with stuff like this. : )