Replace water pump myself - '97 TJ
12-08-2005, 02:21 PM
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Replace water pump myself - '97 TJ
I replaced a water pump in my '97 TJ 2.5L jeep last weekend at 128,600
miles. While I was at it, I replaced the upper and lower hoses as well.
I ordered the Jeep service manual from Daimler Chrysler just prior to
undertaking the task.
Has anyone in this group ever replaced a water pump on this model? The
reason I ask is because of the Power Steering pump bracket and how much
of a pain it was.
To those who aren't aware, the power steering pump bracket is attached
to the water pump, so you must unbolt the power steering pump, then
unbolt the power steering pump bracket to get the water pump out. The
manual says to completely remove the bracket altogether, but the
graphic that it shows isn't accurate. It shows the bracket attached
with three simple bolts. In reality, the two front bolts are simple,
but the third lower attachment is another story. There, a little flange
is sandwiched between the engine block and a major engine attachment
fitting, connecting the engine to the frame and this sandwiched flange
is further affixed with a funky stud/nut type fastener (a stud with a
nut fixed on it somehow). I took this funky fastener out, but there was
no way to get the bracket out because this little flange was smashed
between the motor mount and the engine. If I got it out, I knew I'd
never get it back in.
I ended up replacing the nut/stud, removed the two front bolts, and
just bending the bracket out of the way so I could get the water pump
out.
I replaced the pump, but then had MAJOR problems with the bracket
because I couldn't get the holes in the bracket to line up properly
with the holes in the pump. The pump is cast aluminum I believe. With
the bracket bolts not lining up perfectly, I began to cross thread the
bolts as I tried to screw them into the tapped holes on the pump. I
pulled and pushed and tugged that bracket for at least and hour trying
to get it back into its original shape. By screwing a bolt into the
back side of the upper hole, thereby reforming the theads, I finally
got one bolt back in, but the lower one I had to leave out. I looks
like it is running fine.
I am interested in hearing about how others have handled replacing a
water pump on this engine.
Thanks,
-Trent
miles. While I was at it, I replaced the upper and lower hoses as well.
I ordered the Jeep service manual from Daimler Chrysler just prior to
undertaking the task.
Has anyone in this group ever replaced a water pump on this model? The
reason I ask is because of the Power Steering pump bracket and how much
of a pain it was.
To those who aren't aware, the power steering pump bracket is attached
to the water pump, so you must unbolt the power steering pump, then
unbolt the power steering pump bracket to get the water pump out. The
manual says to completely remove the bracket altogether, but the
graphic that it shows isn't accurate. It shows the bracket attached
with three simple bolts. In reality, the two front bolts are simple,
but the third lower attachment is another story. There, a little flange
is sandwiched between the engine block and a major engine attachment
fitting, connecting the engine to the frame and this sandwiched flange
is further affixed with a funky stud/nut type fastener (a stud with a
nut fixed on it somehow). I took this funky fastener out, but there was
no way to get the bracket out because this little flange was smashed
between the motor mount and the engine. If I got it out, I knew I'd
never get it back in.
I ended up replacing the nut/stud, removed the two front bolts, and
just bending the bracket out of the way so I could get the water pump
out.
I replaced the pump, but then had MAJOR problems with the bracket
because I couldn't get the holes in the bracket to line up properly
with the holes in the pump. The pump is cast aluminum I believe. With
the bracket bolts not lining up perfectly, I began to cross thread the
bolts as I tried to screw them into the tapped holes on the pump. I
pulled and pushed and tugged that bracket for at least and hour trying
to get it back into its original shape. By screwing a bolt into the
back side of the upper hole, thereby reforming the theads, I finally
got one bolt back in, but the lower one I had to leave out. I looks
like it is running fine.
I am interested in hearing about how others have handled replacing a
water pump on this engine.
Thanks,
-Trent
12-08-2005, 02:55 PM
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Re: Replace water pump myself - '97 TJ
We just did one last week on a 95 YJ 2.5 L, 100,000 miles, found that 1/2
of the engine has to come out to get it changed, but the power steering pump
wasn't one of it, although it was a pain trying to get W pump in and around
power S pump, it will only go one way, at just the right angle, I put it in
to test fit, took it out and it was very easy, 10 minutes later when I went
to put it in permanently I pried and twisted, wiggled and turned, I looked
at my daughter with a look of, is this the same part I just had in there?,
took me forever to get it in that second time, it's probably more then a 1
hour job to change with everything you have to take off.
<mohead@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1134069719.628582.134640@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I replaced a water pump in my '97 TJ 2.5L jeep last weekend at 128,600
> miles. While I was at it, I replaced the upper and lower hoses as well.
> I ordered the Jeep service manual from Daimler Chrysler just prior to
> undertaking the task.
>
> Has anyone in this group ever replaced a water pump on this model? The
> reason I ask is because of the Power Steering pump bracket and how much
> of a pain it was.
>
> To those who aren't aware, the power steering pump bracket is attached
> to the water pump, so you must unbolt the power steering pump, then
> unbolt the power steering pump bracket to get the water pump out. The
> manual says to completely remove the bracket altogether, but the
> graphic that it shows isn't accurate. It shows the bracket attached
> with three simple bolts. In reality, the two front bolts are simple,
> but the third lower attachment is another story. There, a little flange
> is sandwiched between the engine block and a major engine attachment
> fitting, connecting the engine to the frame and this sandwiched flange
> is further affixed with a funky stud/nut type fastener (a stud with a
> nut fixed on it somehow). I took this funky fastener out, but there was
> no way to get the bracket out because this little flange was smashed
> between the motor mount and the engine. If I got it out, I knew I'd
> never get it back in.
>
> I ended up replacing the nut/stud, removed the two front bolts, and
> just bending the bracket out of the way so I could get the water pump
> out.
>
> I replaced the pump, but then had MAJOR problems with the bracket
> because I couldn't get the holes in the bracket to line up properly
> with the holes in the pump. The pump is cast aluminum I believe. With
> the bracket bolts not lining up perfectly, I began to cross thread the
> bolts as I tried to screw them into the tapped holes on the pump. I
> pulled and pushed and tugged that bracket for at least and hour trying
> to get it back into its original shape. By screwing a bolt into the
> back side of the upper hole, thereby reforming the theads, I finally
> got one bolt back in, but the lower one I had to leave out. I looks
> like it is running fine.
>
> I am interested in hearing about how others have handled replacing a
> water pump on this engine.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Trent
>
of the engine has to come out to get it changed, but the power steering pump
wasn't one of it, although it was a pain trying to get W pump in and around
power S pump, it will only go one way, at just the right angle, I put it in
to test fit, took it out and it was very easy, 10 minutes later when I went
to put it in permanently I pried and twisted, wiggled and turned, I looked
at my daughter with a look of, is this the same part I just had in there?,
took me forever to get it in that second time, it's probably more then a 1
hour job to change with everything you have to take off.
<mohead@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1134069719.628582.134640@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I replaced a water pump in my '97 TJ 2.5L jeep last weekend at 128,600
> miles. While I was at it, I replaced the upper and lower hoses as well.
> I ordered the Jeep service manual from Daimler Chrysler just prior to
> undertaking the task.
>
> Has anyone in this group ever replaced a water pump on this model? The
> reason I ask is because of the Power Steering pump bracket and how much
> of a pain it was.
>
> To those who aren't aware, the power steering pump bracket is attached
> to the water pump, so you must unbolt the power steering pump, then
> unbolt the power steering pump bracket to get the water pump out. The
> manual says to completely remove the bracket altogether, but the
> graphic that it shows isn't accurate. It shows the bracket attached
> with three simple bolts. In reality, the two front bolts are simple,
> but the third lower attachment is another story. There, a little flange
> is sandwiched between the engine block and a major engine attachment
> fitting, connecting the engine to the frame and this sandwiched flange
> is further affixed with a funky stud/nut type fastener (a stud with a
> nut fixed on it somehow). I took this funky fastener out, but there was
> no way to get the bracket out because this little flange was smashed
> between the motor mount and the engine. If I got it out, I knew I'd
> never get it back in.
>
> I ended up replacing the nut/stud, removed the two front bolts, and
> just bending the bracket out of the way so I could get the water pump
> out.
>
> I replaced the pump, but then had MAJOR problems with the bracket
> because I couldn't get the holes in the bracket to line up properly
> with the holes in the pump. The pump is cast aluminum I believe. With
> the bracket bolts not lining up perfectly, I began to cross thread the
> bolts as I tried to screw them into the tapped holes on the pump. I
> pulled and pushed and tugged that bracket for at least and hour trying
> to get it back into its original shape. By screwing a bolt into the
> back side of the upper hole, thereby reforming the theads, I finally
> got one bolt back in, but the lower one I had to leave out. I looks
> like it is running fine.
>
> I am interested in hearing about how others have handled replacing a
> water pump on this engine.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Trent
>
12-08-2005, 02:55 PM
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Re: Replace water pump myself - '97 TJ
We just did one last week on a 95 YJ 2.5 L, 100,000 miles, found that 1/2
of the engine has to come out to get it changed, but the power steering pump
wasn't one of it, although it was a pain trying to get W pump in and around
power S pump, it will only go one way, at just the right angle, I put it in
to test fit, took it out and it was very easy, 10 minutes later when I went
to put it in permanently I pried and twisted, wiggled and turned, I looked
at my daughter with a look of, is this the same part I just had in there?,
took me forever to get it in that second time, it's probably more then a 1
hour job to change with everything you have to take off.
<mohead@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1134069719.628582.134640@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I replaced a water pump in my '97 TJ 2.5L jeep last weekend at 128,600
> miles. While I was at it, I replaced the upper and lower hoses as well.
> I ordered the Jeep service manual from Daimler Chrysler just prior to
> undertaking the task.
>
> Has anyone in this group ever replaced a water pump on this model? The
> reason I ask is because of the Power Steering pump bracket and how much
> of a pain it was.
>
> To those who aren't aware, the power steering pump bracket is attached
> to the water pump, so you must unbolt the power steering pump, then
> unbolt the power steering pump bracket to get the water pump out. The
> manual says to completely remove the bracket altogether, but the
> graphic that it shows isn't accurate. It shows the bracket attached
> with three simple bolts. In reality, the two front bolts are simple,
> but the third lower attachment is another story. There, a little flange
> is sandwiched between the engine block and a major engine attachment
> fitting, connecting the engine to the frame and this sandwiched flange
> is further affixed with a funky stud/nut type fastener (a stud with a
> nut fixed on it somehow). I took this funky fastener out, but there was
> no way to get the bracket out because this little flange was smashed
> between the motor mount and the engine. If I got it out, I knew I'd
> never get it back in.
>
> I ended up replacing the nut/stud, removed the two front bolts, and
> just bending the bracket out of the way so I could get the water pump
> out.
>
> I replaced the pump, but then had MAJOR problems with the bracket
> because I couldn't get the holes in the bracket to line up properly
> with the holes in the pump. The pump is cast aluminum I believe. With
> the bracket bolts not lining up perfectly, I began to cross thread the
> bolts as I tried to screw them into the tapped holes on the pump. I
> pulled and pushed and tugged that bracket for at least and hour trying
> to get it back into its original shape. By screwing a bolt into the
> back side of the upper hole, thereby reforming the theads, I finally
> got one bolt back in, but the lower one I had to leave out. I looks
> like it is running fine.
>
> I am interested in hearing about how others have handled replacing a
> water pump on this engine.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Trent
>
of the engine has to come out to get it changed, but the power steering pump
wasn't one of it, although it was a pain trying to get W pump in and around
power S pump, it will only go one way, at just the right angle, I put it in
to test fit, took it out and it was very easy, 10 minutes later when I went
to put it in permanently I pried and twisted, wiggled and turned, I looked
at my daughter with a look of, is this the same part I just had in there?,
took me forever to get it in that second time, it's probably more then a 1
hour job to change with everything you have to take off.
<mohead@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1134069719.628582.134640@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I replaced a water pump in my '97 TJ 2.5L jeep last weekend at 128,600
> miles. While I was at it, I replaced the upper and lower hoses as well.
> I ordered the Jeep service manual from Daimler Chrysler just prior to
> undertaking the task.
>
> Has anyone in this group ever replaced a water pump on this model? The
> reason I ask is because of the Power Steering pump bracket and how much
> of a pain it was.
>
> To those who aren't aware, the power steering pump bracket is attached
> to the water pump, so you must unbolt the power steering pump, then
> unbolt the power steering pump bracket to get the water pump out. The
> manual says to completely remove the bracket altogether, but the
> graphic that it shows isn't accurate. It shows the bracket attached
> with three simple bolts. In reality, the two front bolts are simple,
> but the third lower attachment is another story. There, a little flange
> is sandwiched between the engine block and a major engine attachment
> fitting, connecting the engine to the frame and this sandwiched flange
> is further affixed with a funky stud/nut type fastener (a stud with a
> nut fixed on it somehow). I took this funky fastener out, but there was
> no way to get the bracket out because this little flange was smashed
> between the motor mount and the engine. If I got it out, I knew I'd
> never get it back in.
>
> I ended up replacing the nut/stud, removed the two front bolts, and
> just bending the bracket out of the way so I could get the water pump
> out.
>
> I replaced the pump, but then had MAJOR problems with the bracket
> because I couldn't get the holes in the bracket to line up properly
> with the holes in the pump. The pump is cast aluminum I believe. With
> the bracket bolts not lining up perfectly, I began to cross thread the
> bolts as I tried to screw them into the tapped holes on the pump. I
> pulled and pushed and tugged that bracket for at least and hour trying
> to get it back into its original shape. By screwing a bolt into the
> back side of the upper hole, thereby reforming the theads, I finally
> got one bolt back in, but the lower one I had to leave out. I looks
> like it is running fine.
>
> I am interested in hearing about how others have handled replacing a
> water pump on this engine.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Trent
>
12-08-2005, 02:55 PM
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Re: Replace water pump myself - '97 TJ
We just did one last week on a 95 YJ 2.5 L, 100,000 miles, found that 1/2
of the engine has to come out to get it changed, but the power steering pump
wasn't one of it, although it was a pain trying to get W pump in and around
power S pump, it will only go one way, at just the right angle, I put it in
to test fit, took it out and it was very easy, 10 minutes later when I went
to put it in permanently I pried and twisted, wiggled and turned, I looked
at my daughter with a look of, is this the same part I just had in there?,
took me forever to get it in that second time, it's probably more then a 1
hour job to change with everything you have to take off.
<mohead@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1134069719.628582.134640@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I replaced a water pump in my '97 TJ 2.5L jeep last weekend at 128,600
> miles. While I was at it, I replaced the upper and lower hoses as well.
> I ordered the Jeep service manual from Daimler Chrysler just prior to
> undertaking the task.
>
> Has anyone in this group ever replaced a water pump on this model? The
> reason I ask is because of the Power Steering pump bracket and how much
> of a pain it was.
>
> To those who aren't aware, the power steering pump bracket is attached
> to the water pump, so you must unbolt the power steering pump, then
> unbolt the power steering pump bracket to get the water pump out. The
> manual says to completely remove the bracket altogether, but the
> graphic that it shows isn't accurate. It shows the bracket attached
> with three simple bolts. In reality, the two front bolts are simple,
> but the third lower attachment is another story. There, a little flange
> is sandwiched between the engine block and a major engine attachment
> fitting, connecting the engine to the frame and this sandwiched flange
> is further affixed with a funky stud/nut type fastener (a stud with a
> nut fixed on it somehow). I took this funky fastener out, but there was
> no way to get the bracket out because this little flange was smashed
> between the motor mount and the engine. If I got it out, I knew I'd
> never get it back in.
>
> I ended up replacing the nut/stud, removed the two front bolts, and
> just bending the bracket out of the way so I could get the water pump
> out.
>
> I replaced the pump, but then had MAJOR problems with the bracket
> because I couldn't get the holes in the bracket to line up properly
> with the holes in the pump. The pump is cast aluminum I believe. With
> the bracket bolts not lining up perfectly, I began to cross thread the
> bolts as I tried to screw them into the tapped holes on the pump. I
> pulled and pushed and tugged that bracket for at least and hour trying
> to get it back into its original shape. By screwing a bolt into the
> back side of the upper hole, thereby reforming the theads, I finally
> got one bolt back in, but the lower one I had to leave out. I looks
> like it is running fine.
>
> I am interested in hearing about how others have handled replacing a
> water pump on this engine.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Trent
>
of the engine has to come out to get it changed, but the power steering pump
wasn't one of it, although it was a pain trying to get W pump in and around
power S pump, it will only go one way, at just the right angle, I put it in
to test fit, took it out and it was very easy, 10 minutes later when I went
to put it in permanently I pried and twisted, wiggled and turned, I looked
at my daughter with a look of, is this the same part I just had in there?,
took me forever to get it in that second time, it's probably more then a 1
hour job to change with everything you have to take off.
<mohead@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1134069719.628582.134640@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I replaced a water pump in my '97 TJ 2.5L jeep last weekend at 128,600
> miles. While I was at it, I replaced the upper and lower hoses as well.
> I ordered the Jeep service manual from Daimler Chrysler just prior to
> undertaking the task.
>
> Has anyone in this group ever replaced a water pump on this model? The
> reason I ask is because of the Power Steering pump bracket and how much
> of a pain it was.
>
> To those who aren't aware, the power steering pump bracket is attached
> to the water pump, so you must unbolt the power steering pump, then
> unbolt the power steering pump bracket to get the water pump out. The
> manual says to completely remove the bracket altogether, but the
> graphic that it shows isn't accurate. It shows the bracket attached
> with three simple bolts. In reality, the two front bolts are simple,
> but the third lower attachment is another story. There, a little flange
> is sandwiched between the engine block and a major engine attachment
> fitting, connecting the engine to the frame and this sandwiched flange
> is further affixed with a funky stud/nut type fastener (a stud with a
> nut fixed on it somehow). I took this funky fastener out, but there was
> no way to get the bracket out because this little flange was smashed
> between the motor mount and the engine. If I got it out, I knew I'd
> never get it back in.
>
> I ended up replacing the nut/stud, removed the two front bolts, and
> just bending the bracket out of the way so I could get the water pump
> out.
>
> I replaced the pump, but then had MAJOR problems with the bracket
> because I couldn't get the holes in the bracket to line up properly
> with the holes in the pump. The pump is cast aluminum I believe. With
> the bracket bolts not lining up perfectly, I began to cross thread the
> bolts as I tried to screw them into the tapped holes on the pump. I
> pulled and pushed and tugged that bracket for at least and hour trying
> to get it back into its original shape. By screwing a bolt into the
> back side of the upper hole, thereby reforming the theads, I finally
> got one bolt back in, but the lower one I had to leave out. I looks
> like it is running fine.
>
> I am interested in hearing about how others have handled replacing a
> water pump on this engine.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Trent
>
12-08-2005, 03:14 PM
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Re: Replace water pump myself - '97 TJ
Well, I haven't done 'that' engine, but on all the other Jeep waterpumps
I have done I never unbolted anything except the the pump itself. I
have never even loosened off the fan belts.....
Really. The pumps can wiggle out from under the steering bracket and
the belt 'was' adjusted right before so why mess with it....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
mohead@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> I replaced a water pump in my '97 TJ 2.5L jeep last weekend at 128,600
> miles. While I was at it, I replaced the upper and lower hoses as well.
> I ordered the Jeep service manual from Daimler Chrysler just prior to
> undertaking the task.
>
> Has anyone in this group ever replaced a water pump on this model? The
> reason I ask is because of the Power Steering pump bracket and how much
> of a pain it was.
>
> To those who aren't aware, the power steering pump bracket is attached
> to the water pump, so you must unbolt the power steering pump, then
> unbolt the power steering pump bracket to get the water pump out. The
> manual says to completely remove the bracket altogether, but the
> graphic that it shows isn't accurate. It shows the bracket attached
> with three simple bolts. In reality, the two front bolts are simple,
> but the third lower attachment is another story. There, a little flange
> is sandwiched between the engine block and a major engine attachment
> fitting, connecting the engine to the frame and this sandwiched flange
> is further affixed with a funky stud/nut type fastener (a stud with a
> nut fixed on it somehow). I took this funky fastener out, but there was
> no way to get the bracket out because this little flange was smashed
> between the motor mount and the engine. If I got it out, I knew I'd
> never get it back in.
>
> I ended up replacing the nut/stud, removed the two front bolts, and
> just bending the bracket out of the way so I could get the water pump
> out.
>
> I replaced the pump, but then had MAJOR problems with the bracket
> because I couldn't get the holes in the bracket to line up properly
> with the holes in the pump. The pump is cast aluminum I believe. With
> the bracket bolts not lining up perfectly, I began to cross thread the
> bolts as I tried to screw them into the tapped holes on the pump. I
> pulled and pushed and tugged that bracket for at least and hour trying
> to get it back into its original shape. By screwing a bolt into the
> back side of the upper hole, thereby reforming the theads, I finally
> got one bolt back in, but the lower one I had to leave out. I looks
> like it is running fine.
>
> I am interested in hearing about how others have handled replacing a
> water pump on this engine.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Trent
I have done I never unbolted anything except the the pump itself. I
have never even loosened off the fan belts.....
Really. The pumps can wiggle out from under the steering bracket and
the belt 'was' adjusted right before so why mess with it....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
mohead@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> I replaced a water pump in my '97 TJ 2.5L jeep last weekend at 128,600
> miles. While I was at it, I replaced the upper and lower hoses as well.
> I ordered the Jeep service manual from Daimler Chrysler just prior to
> undertaking the task.
>
> Has anyone in this group ever replaced a water pump on this model? The
> reason I ask is because of the Power Steering pump bracket and how much
> of a pain it was.
>
> To those who aren't aware, the power steering pump bracket is attached
> to the water pump, so you must unbolt the power steering pump, then
> unbolt the power steering pump bracket to get the water pump out. The
> manual says to completely remove the bracket altogether, but the
> graphic that it shows isn't accurate. It shows the bracket attached
> with three simple bolts. In reality, the two front bolts are simple,
> but the third lower attachment is another story. There, a little flange
> is sandwiched between the engine block and a major engine attachment
> fitting, connecting the engine to the frame and this sandwiched flange
> is further affixed with a funky stud/nut type fastener (a stud with a
> nut fixed on it somehow). I took this funky fastener out, but there was
> no way to get the bracket out because this little flange was smashed
> between the motor mount and the engine. If I got it out, I knew I'd
> never get it back in.
>
> I ended up replacing the nut/stud, removed the two front bolts, and
> just bending the bracket out of the way so I could get the water pump
> out.
>
> I replaced the pump, but then had MAJOR problems with the bracket
> because I couldn't get the holes in the bracket to line up properly
> with the holes in the pump. The pump is cast aluminum I believe. With
> the bracket bolts not lining up perfectly, I began to cross thread the
> bolts as I tried to screw them into the tapped holes on the pump. I
> pulled and pushed and tugged that bracket for at least and hour trying
> to get it back into its original shape. By screwing a bolt into the
> back side of the upper hole, thereby reforming the theads, I finally
> got one bolt back in, but the lower one I had to leave out. I looks
> like it is running fine.
>
> I am interested in hearing about how others have handled replacing a
> water pump on this engine.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Trent
12-08-2005, 03:14 PM
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Re: Replace water pump myself - '97 TJ
Well, I haven't done 'that' engine, but on all the other Jeep waterpumps
I have done I never unbolted anything except the the pump itself. I
have never even loosened off the fan belts.....
Really. The pumps can wiggle out from under the steering bracket and
the belt 'was' adjusted right before so why mess with it....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
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mohead@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> I replaced a water pump in my '97 TJ 2.5L jeep last weekend at 128,600
> miles. While I was at it, I replaced the upper and lower hoses as well.
> I ordered the Jeep service manual from Daimler Chrysler just prior to
> undertaking the task.
>
> Has anyone in this group ever replaced a water pump on this model? The
> reason I ask is because of the Power Steering pump bracket and how much
> of a pain it was.
>
> To those who aren't aware, the power steering pump bracket is attached
> to the water pump, so you must unbolt the power steering pump, then
> unbolt the power steering pump bracket to get the water pump out. The
> manual says to completely remove the bracket altogether, but the
> graphic that it shows isn't accurate. It shows the bracket attached
> with three simple bolts. In reality, the two front bolts are simple,
> but the third lower attachment is another story. There, a little flange
> is sandwiched between the engine block and a major engine attachment
> fitting, connecting the engine to the frame and this sandwiched flange
> is further affixed with a funky stud/nut type fastener (a stud with a
> nut fixed on it somehow). I took this funky fastener out, but there was
> no way to get the bracket out because this little flange was smashed
> between the motor mount and the engine. If I got it out, I knew I'd
> never get it back in.
>
> I ended up replacing the nut/stud, removed the two front bolts, and
> just bending the bracket out of the way so I could get the water pump
> out.
>
> I replaced the pump, but then had MAJOR problems with the bracket
> because I couldn't get the holes in the bracket to line up properly
> with the holes in the pump. The pump is cast aluminum I believe. With
> the bracket bolts not lining up perfectly, I began to cross thread the
> bolts as I tried to screw them into the tapped holes on the pump. I
> pulled and pushed and tugged that bracket for at least and hour trying
> to get it back into its original shape. By screwing a bolt into the
> back side of the upper hole, thereby reforming the theads, I finally
> got one bolt back in, but the lower one I had to leave out. I looks
> like it is running fine.
>
> I am interested in hearing about how others have handled replacing a
> water pump on this engine.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Trent
I have done I never unbolted anything except the the pump itself. I
have never even loosened off the fan belts.....
Really. The pumps can wiggle out from under the steering bracket and
the belt 'was' adjusted right before so why mess with it....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
mohead@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> I replaced a water pump in my '97 TJ 2.5L jeep last weekend at 128,600
> miles. While I was at it, I replaced the upper and lower hoses as well.
> I ordered the Jeep service manual from Daimler Chrysler just prior to
> undertaking the task.
>
> Has anyone in this group ever replaced a water pump on this model? The
> reason I ask is because of the Power Steering pump bracket and how much
> of a pain it was.
>
> To those who aren't aware, the power steering pump bracket is attached
> to the water pump, so you must unbolt the power steering pump, then
> unbolt the power steering pump bracket to get the water pump out. The
> manual says to completely remove the bracket altogether, but the
> graphic that it shows isn't accurate. It shows the bracket attached
> with three simple bolts. In reality, the two front bolts are simple,
> but the third lower attachment is another story. There, a little flange
> is sandwiched between the engine block and a major engine attachment
> fitting, connecting the engine to the frame and this sandwiched flange
> is further affixed with a funky stud/nut type fastener (a stud with a
> nut fixed on it somehow). I took this funky fastener out, but there was
> no way to get the bracket out because this little flange was smashed
> between the motor mount and the engine. If I got it out, I knew I'd
> never get it back in.
>
> I ended up replacing the nut/stud, removed the two front bolts, and
> just bending the bracket out of the way so I could get the water pump
> out.
>
> I replaced the pump, but then had MAJOR problems with the bracket
> because I couldn't get the holes in the bracket to line up properly
> with the holes in the pump. The pump is cast aluminum I believe. With
> the bracket bolts not lining up perfectly, I began to cross thread the
> bolts as I tried to screw them into the tapped holes on the pump. I
> pulled and pushed and tugged that bracket for at least and hour trying
> to get it back into its original shape. By screwing a bolt into the
> back side of the upper hole, thereby reforming the theads, I finally
> got one bolt back in, but the lower one I had to leave out. I looks
> like it is running fine.
>
> I am interested in hearing about how others have handled replacing a
> water pump on this engine.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Trent
12-08-2005, 03:14 PM
#7
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Re: Replace water pump myself - '97 TJ
Well, I haven't done 'that' engine, but on all the other Jeep waterpumps
I have done I never unbolted anything except the the pump itself. I
have never even loosened off the fan belts.....
Really. The pumps can wiggle out from under the steering bracket and
the belt 'was' adjusted right before so why mess with it....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
mohead@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> I replaced a water pump in my '97 TJ 2.5L jeep last weekend at 128,600
> miles. While I was at it, I replaced the upper and lower hoses as well.
> I ordered the Jeep service manual from Daimler Chrysler just prior to
> undertaking the task.
>
> Has anyone in this group ever replaced a water pump on this model? The
> reason I ask is because of the Power Steering pump bracket and how much
> of a pain it was.
>
> To those who aren't aware, the power steering pump bracket is attached
> to the water pump, so you must unbolt the power steering pump, then
> unbolt the power steering pump bracket to get the water pump out. The
> manual says to completely remove the bracket altogether, but the
> graphic that it shows isn't accurate. It shows the bracket attached
> with three simple bolts. In reality, the two front bolts are simple,
> but the third lower attachment is another story. There, a little flange
> is sandwiched between the engine block and a major engine attachment
> fitting, connecting the engine to the frame and this sandwiched flange
> is further affixed with a funky stud/nut type fastener (a stud with a
> nut fixed on it somehow). I took this funky fastener out, but there was
> no way to get the bracket out because this little flange was smashed
> between the motor mount and the engine. If I got it out, I knew I'd
> never get it back in.
>
> I ended up replacing the nut/stud, removed the two front bolts, and
> just bending the bracket out of the way so I could get the water pump
> out.
>
> I replaced the pump, but then had MAJOR problems with the bracket
> because I couldn't get the holes in the bracket to line up properly
> with the holes in the pump. The pump is cast aluminum I believe. With
> the bracket bolts not lining up perfectly, I began to cross thread the
> bolts as I tried to screw them into the tapped holes on the pump. I
> pulled and pushed and tugged that bracket for at least and hour trying
> to get it back into its original shape. By screwing a bolt into the
> back side of the upper hole, thereby reforming the theads, I finally
> got one bolt back in, but the lower one I had to leave out. I looks
> like it is running fine.
>
> I am interested in hearing about how others have handled replacing a
> water pump on this engine.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Trent
I have done I never unbolted anything except the the pump itself. I
have never even loosened off the fan belts.....
Really. The pumps can wiggle out from under the steering bracket and
the belt 'was' adjusted right before so why mess with it....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
mohead@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> I replaced a water pump in my '97 TJ 2.5L jeep last weekend at 128,600
> miles. While I was at it, I replaced the upper and lower hoses as well.
> I ordered the Jeep service manual from Daimler Chrysler just prior to
> undertaking the task.
>
> Has anyone in this group ever replaced a water pump on this model? The
> reason I ask is because of the Power Steering pump bracket and how much
> of a pain it was.
>
> To those who aren't aware, the power steering pump bracket is attached
> to the water pump, so you must unbolt the power steering pump, then
> unbolt the power steering pump bracket to get the water pump out. The
> manual says to completely remove the bracket altogether, but the
> graphic that it shows isn't accurate. It shows the bracket attached
> with three simple bolts. In reality, the two front bolts are simple,
> but the third lower attachment is another story. There, a little flange
> is sandwiched between the engine block and a major engine attachment
> fitting, connecting the engine to the frame and this sandwiched flange
> is further affixed with a funky stud/nut type fastener (a stud with a
> nut fixed on it somehow). I took this funky fastener out, but there was
> no way to get the bracket out because this little flange was smashed
> between the motor mount and the engine. If I got it out, I knew I'd
> never get it back in.
>
> I ended up replacing the nut/stud, removed the two front bolts, and
> just bending the bracket out of the way so I could get the water pump
> out.
>
> I replaced the pump, but then had MAJOR problems with the bracket
> because I couldn't get the holes in the bracket to line up properly
> with the holes in the pump. The pump is cast aluminum I believe. With
> the bracket bolts not lining up perfectly, I began to cross thread the
> bolts as I tried to screw them into the tapped holes on the pump. I
> pulled and pushed and tugged that bracket for at least and hour trying
> to get it back into its original shape. By screwing a bolt into the
> back side of the upper hole, thereby reforming the theads, I finally
> got one bolt back in, but the lower one I had to leave out. I looks
> like it is running fine.
>
> I am interested in hearing about how others have handled replacing a
> water pump on this engine.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Trent
12-08-2005, 04:40 PM
#8
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Posts: n/a
Re: Replace water pump myself - '97 TJ
On the 95 YJ 2.5, it is air box and hose, fan shroud, fan, belt, rad hose,
we did the thermostat too so heater hose also, as I say by the time we had
water pump out more then 1/2 the engine bay was empty, boy that's a small
engine compaired to my 258, felt like I could just lift it out and put it on
work bench to work on.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43989411.C732F474@sympatico.ca...
> Well, I haven't done 'that' engine, but on all the other Jeep waterpumps
> I have done I never unbolted anything except the the pump itself. I
> have never even loosened off the fan belts.....
>
> Really. The pumps can wiggle out from under the steering bracket and
> the belt 'was' adjusted right before so why mess with it....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> mohead@my-deja.com wrote:
>>
>> I replaced a water pump in my '97 TJ 2.5L jeep last weekend at 128,600
>> miles. While I was at it, I replaced the upper and lower hoses as well.
>> I ordered the Jeep service manual from Daimler Chrysler just prior to
>> undertaking the task.
>>
>> Has anyone in this group ever replaced a water pump on this model? The
>> reason I ask is because of the Power Steering pump bracket and how much
>> of a pain it was.
>>
>> To those who aren't aware, the power steering pump bracket is attached
>> to the water pump, so you must unbolt the power steering pump, then
>> unbolt the power steering pump bracket to get the water pump out. The
>> manual says to completely remove the bracket altogether, but the
>> graphic that it shows isn't accurate. It shows the bracket attached
>> with three simple bolts. In reality, the two front bolts are simple,
>> but the third lower attachment is another story. There, a little flange
>> is sandwiched between the engine block and a major engine attachment
>> fitting, connecting the engine to the frame and this sandwiched flange
>> is further affixed with a funky stud/nut type fastener (a stud with a
>> nut fixed on it somehow). I took this funky fastener out, but there was
>> no way to get the bracket out because this little flange was smashed
>> between the motor mount and the engine. If I got it out, I knew I'd
>> never get it back in.
>>
>> I ended up replacing the nut/stud, removed the two front bolts, and
>> just bending the bracket out of the way so I could get the water pump
>> out.
>>
>> I replaced the pump, but then had MAJOR problems with the bracket
>> because I couldn't get the holes in the bracket to line up properly
>> with the holes in the pump. The pump is cast aluminum I believe. With
>> the bracket bolts not lining up perfectly, I began to cross thread the
>> bolts as I tried to screw them into the tapped holes on the pump. I
>> pulled and pushed and tugged that bracket for at least and hour trying
>> to get it back into its original shape. By screwing a bolt into the
>> back side of the upper hole, thereby reforming the theads, I finally
>> got one bolt back in, but the lower one I had to leave out. I looks
>> like it is running fine.
>>
>> I am interested in hearing about how others have handled replacing a
>> water pump on this engine.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -Trent
we did the thermostat too so heater hose also, as I say by the time we had
water pump out more then 1/2 the engine bay was empty, boy that's a small
engine compaired to my 258, felt like I could just lift it out and put it on
work bench to work on.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43989411.C732F474@sympatico.ca...
> Well, I haven't done 'that' engine, but on all the other Jeep waterpumps
> I have done I never unbolted anything except the the pump itself. I
> have never even loosened off the fan belts.....
>
> Really. The pumps can wiggle out from under the steering bracket and
> the belt 'was' adjusted right before so why mess with it....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> mohead@my-deja.com wrote:
>>
>> I replaced a water pump in my '97 TJ 2.5L jeep last weekend at 128,600
>> miles. While I was at it, I replaced the upper and lower hoses as well.
>> I ordered the Jeep service manual from Daimler Chrysler just prior to
>> undertaking the task.
>>
>> Has anyone in this group ever replaced a water pump on this model? The
>> reason I ask is because of the Power Steering pump bracket and how much
>> of a pain it was.
>>
>> To those who aren't aware, the power steering pump bracket is attached
>> to the water pump, so you must unbolt the power steering pump, then
>> unbolt the power steering pump bracket to get the water pump out. The
>> manual says to completely remove the bracket altogether, but the
>> graphic that it shows isn't accurate. It shows the bracket attached
>> with three simple bolts. In reality, the two front bolts are simple,
>> but the third lower attachment is another story. There, a little flange
>> is sandwiched between the engine block and a major engine attachment
>> fitting, connecting the engine to the frame and this sandwiched flange
>> is further affixed with a funky stud/nut type fastener (a stud with a
>> nut fixed on it somehow). I took this funky fastener out, but there was
>> no way to get the bracket out because this little flange was smashed
>> between the motor mount and the engine. If I got it out, I knew I'd
>> never get it back in.
>>
>> I ended up replacing the nut/stud, removed the two front bolts, and
>> just bending the bracket out of the way so I could get the water pump
>> out.
>>
>> I replaced the pump, but then had MAJOR problems with the bracket
>> because I couldn't get the holes in the bracket to line up properly
>> with the holes in the pump. The pump is cast aluminum I believe. With
>> the bracket bolts not lining up perfectly, I began to cross thread the
>> bolts as I tried to screw them into the tapped holes on the pump. I
>> pulled and pushed and tugged that bracket for at least and hour trying
>> to get it back into its original shape. By screwing a bolt into the
>> back side of the upper hole, thereby reforming the theads, I finally
>> got one bolt back in, but the lower one I had to leave out. I looks
>> like it is running fine.
>>
>> I am interested in hearing about how others have handled replacing a
>> water pump on this engine.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -Trent
12-08-2005, 04:40 PM
#9
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Replace water pump myself - '97 TJ
On the 95 YJ 2.5, it is air box and hose, fan shroud, fan, belt, rad hose,
we did the thermostat too so heater hose also, as I say by the time we had
water pump out more then 1/2 the engine bay was empty, boy that's a small
engine compaired to my 258, felt like I could just lift it out and put it on
work bench to work on.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43989411.C732F474@sympatico.ca...
> Well, I haven't done 'that' engine, but on all the other Jeep waterpumps
> I have done I never unbolted anything except the the pump itself. I
> have never even loosened off the fan belts.....
>
> Really. The pumps can wiggle out from under the steering bracket and
> the belt 'was' adjusted right before so why mess with it....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> mohead@my-deja.com wrote:
>>
>> I replaced a water pump in my '97 TJ 2.5L jeep last weekend at 128,600
>> miles. While I was at it, I replaced the upper and lower hoses as well.
>> I ordered the Jeep service manual from Daimler Chrysler just prior to
>> undertaking the task.
>>
>> Has anyone in this group ever replaced a water pump on this model? The
>> reason I ask is because of the Power Steering pump bracket and how much
>> of a pain it was.
>>
>> To those who aren't aware, the power steering pump bracket is attached
>> to the water pump, so you must unbolt the power steering pump, then
>> unbolt the power steering pump bracket to get the water pump out. The
>> manual says to completely remove the bracket altogether, but the
>> graphic that it shows isn't accurate. It shows the bracket attached
>> with three simple bolts. In reality, the two front bolts are simple,
>> but the third lower attachment is another story. There, a little flange
>> is sandwiched between the engine block and a major engine attachment
>> fitting, connecting the engine to the frame and this sandwiched flange
>> is further affixed with a funky stud/nut type fastener (a stud with a
>> nut fixed on it somehow). I took this funky fastener out, but there was
>> no way to get the bracket out because this little flange was smashed
>> between the motor mount and the engine. If I got it out, I knew I'd
>> never get it back in.
>>
>> I ended up replacing the nut/stud, removed the two front bolts, and
>> just bending the bracket out of the way so I could get the water pump
>> out.
>>
>> I replaced the pump, but then had MAJOR problems with the bracket
>> because I couldn't get the holes in the bracket to line up properly
>> with the holes in the pump. The pump is cast aluminum I believe. With
>> the bracket bolts not lining up perfectly, I began to cross thread the
>> bolts as I tried to screw them into the tapped holes on the pump. I
>> pulled and pushed and tugged that bracket for at least and hour trying
>> to get it back into its original shape. By screwing a bolt into the
>> back side of the upper hole, thereby reforming the theads, I finally
>> got one bolt back in, but the lower one I had to leave out. I looks
>> like it is running fine.
>>
>> I am interested in hearing about how others have handled replacing a
>> water pump on this engine.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -Trent
we did the thermostat too so heater hose also, as I say by the time we had
water pump out more then 1/2 the engine bay was empty, boy that's a small
engine compaired to my 258, felt like I could just lift it out and put it on
work bench to work on.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43989411.C732F474@sympatico.ca...
> Well, I haven't done 'that' engine, but on all the other Jeep waterpumps
> I have done I never unbolted anything except the the pump itself. I
> have never even loosened off the fan belts.....
>
> Really. The pumps can wiggle out from under the steering bracket and
> the belt 'was' adjusted right before so why mess with it....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> mohead@my-deja.com wrote:
>>
>> I replaced a water pump in my '97 TJ 2.5L jeep last weekend at 128,600
>> miles. While I was at it, I replaced the upper and lower hoses as well.
>> I ordered the Jeep service manual from Daimler Chrysler just prior to
>> undertaking the task.
>>
>> Has anyone in this group ever replaced a water pump on this model? The
>> reason I ask is because of the Power Steering pump bracket and how much
>> of a pain it was.
>>
>> To those who aren't aware, the power steering pump bracket is attached
>> to the water pump, so you must unbolt the power steering pump, then
>> unbolt the power steering pump bracket to get the water pump out. The
>> manual says to completely remove the bracket altogether, but the
>> graphic that it shows isn't accurate. It shows the bracket attached
>> with three simple bolts. In reality, the two front bolts are simple,
>> but the third lower attachment is another story. There, a little flange
>> is sandwiched between the engine block and a major engine attachment
>> fitting, connecting the engine to the frame and this sandwiched flange
>> is further affixed with a funky stud/nut type fastener (a stud with a
>> nut fixed on it somehow). I took this funky fastener out, but there was
>> no way to get the bracket out because this little flange was smashed
>> between the motor mount and the engine. If I got it out, I knew I'd
>> never get it back in.
>>
>> I ended up replacing the nut/stud, removed the two front bolts, and
>> just bending the bracket out of the way so I could get the water pump
>> out.
>>
>> I replaced the pump, but then had MAJOR problems with the bracket
>> because I couldn't get the holes in the bracket to line up properly
>> with the holes in the pump. The pump is cast aluminum I believe. With
>> the bracket bolts not lining up perfectly, I began to cross thread the
>> bolts as I tried to screw them into the tapped holes on the pump. I
>> pulled and pushed and tugged that bracket for at least and hour trying
>> to get it back into its original shape. By screwing a bolt into the
>> back side of the upper hole, thereby reforming the theads, I finally
>> got one bolt back in, but the lower one I had to leave out. I looks
>> like it is running fine.
>>
>> I am interested in hearing about how others have handled replacing a
>> water pump on this engine.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -Trent
12-08-2005, 04:40 PM
#10
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Replace water pump myself - '97 TJ
On the 95 YJ 2.5, it is air box and hose, fan shroud, fan, belt, rad hose,
we did the thermostat too so heater hose also, as I say by the time we had
water pump out more then 1/2 the engine bay was empty, boy that's a small
engine compaired to my 258, felt like I could just lift it out and put it on
work bench to work on.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43989411.C732F474@sympatico.ca...
> Well, I haven't done 'that' engine, but on all the other Jeep waterpumps
> I have done I never unbolted anything except the the pump itself. I
> have never even loosened off the fan belts.....
>
> Really. The pumps can wiggle out from under the steering bracket and
> the belt 'was' adjusted right before so why mess with it....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> mohead@my-deja.com wrote:
>>
>> I replaced a water pump in my '97 TJ 2.5L jeep last weekend at 128,600
>> miles. While I was at it, I replaced the upper and lower hoses as well.
>> I ordered the Jeep service manual from Daimler Chrysler just prior to
>> undertaking the task.
>>
>> Has anyone in this group ever replaced a water pump on this model? The
>> reason I ask is because of the Power Steering pump bracket and how much
>> of a pain it was.
>>
>> To those who aren't aware, the power steering pump bracket is attached
>> to the water pump, so you must unbolt the power steering pump, then
>> unbolt the power steering pump bracket to get the water pump out. The
>> manual says to completely remove the bracket altogether, but the
>> graphic that it shows isn't accurate. It shows the bracket attached
>> with three simple bolts. In reality, the two front bolts are simple,
>> but the third lower attachment is another story. There, a little flange
>> is sandwiched between the engine block and a major engine attachment
>> fitting, connecting the engine to the frame and this sandwiched flange
>> is further affixed with a funky stud/nut type fastener (a stud with a
>> nut fixed on it somehow). I took this funky fastener out, but there was
>> no way to get the bracket out because this little flange was smashed
>> between the motor mount and the engine. If I got it out, I knew I'd
>> never get it back in.
>>
>> I ended up replacing the nut/stud, removed the two front bolts, and
>> just bending the bracket out of the way so I could get the water pump
>> out.
>>
>> I replaced the pump, but then had MAJOR problems with the bracket
>> because I couldn't get the holes in the bracket to line up properly
>> with the holes in the pump. The pump is cast aluminum I believe. With
>> the bracket bolts not lining up perfectly, I began to cross thread the
>> bolts as I tried to screw them into the tapped holes on the pump. I
>> pulled and pushed and tugged that bracket for at least and hour trying
>> to get it back into its original shape. By screwing a bolt into the
>> back side of the upper hole, thereby reforming the theads, I finally
>> got one bolt back in, but the lower one I had to leave out. I looks
>> like it is running fine.
>>
>> I am interested in hearing about how others have handled replacing a
>> water pump on this engine.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -Trent
we did the thermostat too so heater hose also, as I say by the time we had
water pump out more then 1/2 the engine bay was empty, boy that's a small
engine compaired to my 258, felt like I could just lift it out and put it on
work bench to work on.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43989411.C732F474@sympatico.ca...
> Well, I haven't done 'that' engine, but on all the other Jeep waterpumps
> I have done I never unbolted anything except the the pump itself. I
> have never even loosened off the fan belts.....
>
> Really. The pumps can wiggle out from under the steering bracket and
> the belt 'was' adjusted right before so why mess with it....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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> mohead@my-deja.com wrote:
>>
>> I replaced a water pump in my '97 TJ 2.5L jeep last weekend at 128,600
>> miles. While I was at it, I replaced the upper and lower hoses as well.
>> I ordered the Jeep service manual from Daimler Chrysler just prior to
>> undertaking the task.
>>
>> Has anyone in this group ever replaced a water pump on this model? The
>> reason I ask is because of the Power Steering pump bracket and how much
>> of a pain it was.
>>
>> To those who aren't aware, the power steering pump bracket is attached
>> to the water pump, so you must unbolt the power steering pump, then
>> unbolt the power steering pump bracket to get the water pump out. The
>> manual says to completely remove the bracket altogether, but the
>> graphic that it shows isn't accurate. It shows the bracket attached
>> with three simple bolts. In reality, the two front bolts are simple,
>> but the third lower attachment is another story. There, a little flange
>> is sandwiched between the engine block and a major engine attachment
>> fitting, connecting the engine to the frame and this sandwiched flange
>> is further affixed with a funky stud/nut type fastener (a stud with a
>> nut fixed on it somehow). I took this funky fastener out, but there was
>> no way to get the bracket out because this little flange was smashed
>> between the motor mount and the engine. If I got it out, I knew I'd
>> never get it back in.
>>
>> I ended up replacing the nut/stud, removed the two front bolts, and
>> just bending the bracket out of the way so I could get the water pump
>> out.
>>
>> I replaced the pump, but then had MAJOR problems with the bracket
>> because I couldn't get the holes in the bracket to line up properly
>> with the holes in the pump. The pump is cast aluminum I believe. With
>> the bracket bolts not lining up perfectly, I began to cross thread the
>> bolts as I tried to screw them into the tapped holes on the pump. I
>> pulled and pushed and tugged that bracket for at least and hour trying
>> to get it back into its original shape. By screwing a bolt into the
>> back side of the upper hole, thereby reforming the theads, I finally
>> got one bolt back in, but the lower one I had to leave out. I looks
>> like it is running fine.
>>
>> I am interested in hearing about how others have handled replacing a
>> water pump on this engine.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -Trent
