Greg

Same on the 95 YJ, just tilt it just right to get it under bracket, and I
know what you mean Mike about the tensioner, we changed her belt a while
back, finally gave up on the tentioner and turned engine and rolled belt on.

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:439DF885.F43CA7A2@sympatico.ca...
>I have found that the pumps will slide sideways and twist out from under
> that bracket. The pump should have come stock with a paper gasket.
> This gives a little sliding room. Even more going back in after it's
> cleaned.
>
> When I take off the fan and pulley, this loosens off the fan belt. I
> gave up going after the tensioner unless I have to.
>
> Could be they have made the new ones so you get the privilege of paying
> the $tealership several more hours labor to change it though....
>
> Mike
>
> mohead@my-deja.com wrote:
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> I guess the 2.5L on the '97 TJ is different than what you and Greg have
>> worked on. On my waterpump, there are a total of 6 holes consisting of
>> 4 clearance holes (to bolt the pump to the engine block) and 2 tapped
>> holes (into which the power steering pump bracket bolts go). The power
>> steering pump bracket is also attached to a large casting (intake
>> manifold) with three long bolts that go thru the power steering pump.
>> The pump ends up being sandwiched between the bracket and the casting.
>>
>> This power steering pump bracket traps the water pump and there ain't
>> no way I can see that you could get that water pump out without
>> removing that bracket, or bending it like I did. I didn't actually
>> remove the pump though, I just unattached it from the bracket and the
>> casting and sat it over to the side of the engine compartment, with the
>> hoses still attached.
>>
>> For the record, to replace the water pump and both radiator hoses, I
>> had to remove the fan, the belt, the water pump pulley, power steering
>> pump (hoses still attached), I ended up removing the other idler pulley
>> too on the left to gain access to something (I can't remember now) and
>> I removed the air filter/manifold connector piece that runs across the
>> top of the engine so that I could access the heater core hose
>> connection to the water pump. The adjustment idler pulley on the right
>> is attached to the power steering bracket, so you have to get the belt
>> off to allow you to get that bracket out (or at least out of the way).
>>
>> thanks for the replies.
>>
>> -Trent

Greg

Same on the 95 YJ, just tilt it just right to get it under bracket, and I
know what you mean Mike about the tensioner, we changed her belt a while
back, finally gave up on the tentioner and turned engine and rolled belt on.

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:439DF885.F43CA7A2@sympatico.ca...
>I have found that the pumps will slide sideways and twist out from under
> that bracket. The pump should have come stock with a paper gasket.
> This gives a little sliding room. Even more going back in after it's
> cleaned.
>
> When I take off the fan and pulley, this loosens off the fan belt. I
> gave up going after the tensioner unless I have to.
>
> Could be they have made the new ones so you get the privilege of paying
> the $tealership several more hours labor to change it though....
>
> Mike
>
> mohead@my-deja.com wrote:
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> I guess the 2.5L on the '97 TJ is different than what you and Greg have
>> worked on. On my waterpump, there are a total of 6 holes consisting of
>> 4 clearance holes (to bolt the pump to the engine block) and 2 tapped
>> holes (into which the power steering pump bracket bolts go). The power
>> steering pump bracket is also attached to a large casting (intake
>> manifold) with three long bolts that go thru the power steering pump.
>> The pump ends up being sandwiched between the bracket and the casting.
>>
>> This power steering pump bracket traps the water pump and there ain't
>> no way I can see that you could get that water pump out without
>> removing that bracket, or bending it like I did. I didn't actually
>> remove the pump though, I just unattached it from the bracket and the
>> casting and sat it over to the side of the engine compartment, with the
>> hoses still attached.
>>
>> For the record, to replace the water pump and both radiator hoses, I
>> had to remove the fan, the belt, the water pump pulley, power steering
>> pump (hoses still attached), I ended up removing the other idler pulley
>> too on the left to gain access to something (I can't remember now) and
>> I removed the air filter/manifold connector piece that runs across the
>> top of the engine so that I could access the heater core hose
>> connection to the water pump. The adjustment idler pulley on the right
>> is attached to the power steering bracket, so you have to get the belt
>> off to allow you to get that bracket out (or at least out of the way).
>>
>> thanks for the replies.
>>
>> -Trent