replace bearing in front hub assy?
#31
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Does hub assembly have both bearings?
Looking at the pics on the web site Bill sent, I can't tell if the hub
assembly has both inner and outer bearings. This pics seem to show inner
bearing still part of the jeep even after the hub is pulled off. Will
replacing the hub replace both bearings?
Thanks!
Stephen Cowell wrote:
> I replaced the left front hub assembly on my '00 XJ;
> now the right one is going (silly dealer steam cleaned
> them too hard, all I can figger). I've got the core from
> the left... should be same part. I'd like to save some
> money... does anyone know if I can get a new bearing
> pressed into the old one, or am I stuck buying the
> assembly ($180)? It's got Command Trac, btw.
> __
> Steve
> .
assembly has both inner and outer bearings. This pics seem to show inner
bearing still part of the jeep even after the hub is pulled off. Will
replacing the hub replace both bearings?
Thanks!
Stephen Cowell wrote:
> I replaced the left front hub assembly on my '00 XJ;
> now the right one is going (silly dealer steam cleaned
> them too hard, all I can figger). I've got the core from
> the left... should be same part. I'd like to save some
> money... does anyone know if I can get a new bearing
> pressed into the old one, or am I stuck buying the
> assembly ($180)? It's got Command Trac, btw.
> __
> Steve
> .
#32
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Re: Does hub assembly have both bearings?
It's just one puny K-Car ball bearing:
http://www.jeeping.net/HowTo/Dana30W...g/DSCF0010.JPG Shouldn't
have been used on any four wheel drive, except for the rice burner
motorcycle sized cars. Of course, Real Jeeps use floating bearings
(plural) that can withstand any width or set back size rim with out
damage. A conversion kit:
http://www.usa4x4.com.au/4x4_bot/ima...rn/warnhub.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Football God wrote:
>
> Looking at the pics on the web site Bill sent, I can't tell if the hub
> assembly has both inner and outer bearings. This pics seem to show inner
> bearing still part of the jeep even after the hub is pulled off. Will
> replacing the hub replace both bearings?
>
> Thanks!
http://www.jeeping.net/HowTo/Dana30W...g/DSCF0010.JPG Shouldn't
have been used on any four wheel drive, except for the rice burner
motorcycle sized cars. Of course, Real Jeeps use floating bearings
(plural) that can withstand any width or set back size rim with out
damage. A conversion kit:
http://www.usa4x4.com.au/4x4_bot/ima...rn/warnhub.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Football God wrote:
>
> Looking at the pics on the web site Bill sent, I can't tell if the hub
> assembly has both inner and outer bearings. This pics seem to show inner
> bearing still part of the jeep even after the hub is pulled off. Will
> replacing the hub replace both bearings?
>
> Thanks!
#33
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Re: Does hub assembly have both bearings?
It's just one puny K-Car ball bearing:
http://www.jeeping.net/HowTo/Dana30W...g/DSCF0010.JPG Shouldn't
have been used on any four wheel drive, except for the rice burner
motorcycle sized cars. Of course, Real Jeeps use floating bearings
(plural) that can withstand any width or set back size rim with out
damage. A conversion kit:
http://www.usa4x4.com.au/4x4_bot/ima...rn/warnhub.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Football God wrote:
>
> Looking at the pics on the web site Bill sent, I can't tell if the hub
> assembly has both inner and outer bearings. This pics seem to show inner
> bearing still part of the jeep even after the hub is pulled off. Will
> replacing the hub replace both bearings?
>
> Thanks!
http://www.jeeping.net/HowTo/Dana30W...g/DSCF0010.JPG Shouldn't
have been used on any four wheel drive, except for the rice burner
motorcycle sized cars. Of course, Real Jeeps use floating bearings
(plural) that can withstand any width or set back size rim with out
damage. A conversion kit:
http://www.usa4x4.com.au/4x4_bot/ima...rn/warnhub.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Football God wrote:
>
> Looking at the pics on the web site Bill sent, I can't tell if the hub
> assembly has both inner and outer bearings. This pics seem to show inner
> bearing still part of the jeep even after the hub is pulled off. Will
> replacing the hub replace both bearings?
>
> Thanks!
#34
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Re: Does hub assembly have both bearings?
It's just one puny K-Car ball bearing:
http://www.jeeping.net/HowTo/Dana30W...g/DSCF0010.JPG Shouldn't
have been used on any four wheel drive, except for the rice burner
motorcycle sized cars. Of course, Real Jeeps use floating bearings
(plural) that can withstand any width or set back size rim with out
damage. A conversion kit:
http://www.usa4x4.com.au/4x4_bot/ima...rn/warnhub.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Football God wrote:
>
> Looking at the pics on the web site Bill sent, I can't tell if the hub
> assembly has both inner and outer bearings. This pics seem to show inner
> bearing still part of the jeep even after the hub is pulled off. Will
> replacing the hub replace both bearings?
>
> Thanks!
http://www.jeeping.net/HowTo/Dana30W...g/DSCF0010.JPG Shouldn't
have been used on any four wheel drive, except for the rice burner
motorcycle sized cars. Of course, Real Jeeps use floating bearings
(plural) that can withstand any width or set back size rim with out
damage. A conversion kit:
http://www.usa4x4.com.au/4x4_bot/ima...rn/warnhub.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Football God wrote:
>
> Looking at the pics on the web site Bill sent, I can't tell if the hub
> assembly has both inner and outer bearings. This pics seem to show inner
> bearing still part of the jeep even after the hub is pulled off. Will
> replacing the hub replace both bearings?
>
> Thanks!
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Re: Does hub assembly have both bearings?
The front hub assy is a one-piece pressed together ball bearing as I recall,
similar to those used on fwd cars. I read a web piece several years ago
where some guy had devised a way to just replace the bearing. However, best
to just toss the worn out POS and replace it with an all new assy. Easy as
pie to replace if you have the right tools. It helps if you give the splines
on the outer axle shaft a good soaking with Liquid Wrench, etc. the night
before. As I recall from one I did a while back, I broke the hub nut loose
with the wheels on the ground, used a slide hammer to pull the hub & axle
assy free from the knuckle, then used a hub puller to break the axle free
from the hub itself. Went back together very easily.
FWIW, considering all the stress we put on these things (offset wheels, big
tires, lockers, weight, etc.) they seem to hold up better than one would
imagine. Still, not as stout as the good old inner & outer standard hub.
Just another gift from the corporate cost-cutters.
"Football God" <footballgod@heaven.com> wrote in message
news:3F86D905.FDDA6B27@heaven.com...
> Looking at the pics on the web site Bill sent, I can't tell if the hub
> assembly has both inner and outer bearings. This pics seem to show inner
> bearing still part of the jeep even after the hub is pulled off. Will
> replacing the hub replace both bearings?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> > I replaced the left front hub assembly on my '00 XJ;
> > now the right one is going (silly dealer steam cleaned
> > them too hard, all I can figger). I've got the core from
> > the left... should be same part. I'd like to save some
> > money... does anyone know if I can get a new bearing
> > pressed into the old one, or am I stuck buying the
> > assembly ($180)? It's got Command Trac, btw.
> > __
> > Steve
> > .
>
similar to those used on fwd cars. I read a web piece several years ago
where some guy had devised a way to just replace the bearing. However, best
to just toss the worn out POS and replace it with an all new assy. Easy as
pie to replace if you have the right tools. It helps if you give the splines
on the outer axle shaft a good soaking with Liquid Wrench, etc. the night
before. As I recall from one I did a while back, I broke the hub nut loose
with the wheels on the ground, used a slide hammer to pull the hub & axle
assy free from the knuckle, then used a hub puller to break the axle free
from the hub itself. Went back together very easily.
FWIW, considering all the stress we put on these things (offset wheels, big
tires, lockers, weight, etc.) they seem to hold up better than one would
imagine. Still, not as stout as the good old inner & outer standard hub.
Just another gift from the corporate cost-cutters.
"Football God" <footballgod@heaven.com> wrote in message
news:3F86D905.FDDA6B27@heaven.com...
> Looking at the pics on the web site Bill sent, I can't tell if the hub
> assembly has both inner and outer bearings. This pics seem to show inner
> bearing still part of the jeep even after the hub is pulled off. Will
> replacing the hub replace both bearings?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> > I replaced the left front hub assembly on my '00 XJ;
> > now the right one is going (silly dealer steam cleaned
> > them too hard, all I can figger). I've got the core from
> > the left... should be same part. I'd like to save some
> > money... does anyone know if I can get a new bearing
> > pressed into the old one, or am I stuck buying the
> > assembly ($180)? It's got Command Trac, btw.
> > __
> > Steve
> > .
>
#36
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Re: Does hub assembly have both bearings?
The front hub assy is a one-piece pressed together ball bearing as I recall,
similar to those used on fwd cars. I read a web piece several years ago
where some guy had devised a way to just replace the bearing. However, best
to just toss the worn out POS and replace it with an all new assy. Easy as
pie to replace if you have the right tools. It helps if you give the splines
on the outer axle shaft a good soaking with Liquid Wrench, etc. the night
before. As I recall from one I did a while back, I broke the hub nut loose
with the wheels on the ground, used a slide hammer to pull the hub & axle
assy free from the knuckle, then used a hub puller to break the axle free
from the hub itself. Went back together very easily.
FWIW, considering all the stress we put on these things (offset wheels, big
tires, lockers, weight, etc.) they seem to hold up better than one would
imagine. Still, not as stout as the good old inner & outer standard hub.
Just another gift from the corporate cost-cutters.
"Football God" <footballgod@heaven.com> wrote in message
news:3F86D905.FDDA6B27@heaven.com...
> Looking at the pics on the web site Bill sent, I can't tell if the hub
> assembly has both inner and outer bearings. This pics seem to show inner
> bearing still part of the jeep even after the hub is pulled off. Will
> replacing the hub replace both bearings?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> > I replaced the left front hub assembly on my '00 XJ;
> > now the right one is going (silly dealer steam cleaned
> > them too hard, all I can figger). I've got the core from
> > the left... should be same part. I'd like to save some
> > money... does anyone know if I can get a new bearing
> > pressed into the old one, or am I stuck buying the
> > assembly ($180)? It's got Command Trac, btw.
> > __
> > Steve
> > .
>
similar to those used on fwd cars. I read a web piece several years ago
where some guy had devised a way to just replace the bearing. However, best
to just toss the worn out POS and replace it with an all new assy. Easy as
pie to replace if you have the right tools. It helps if you give the splines
on the outer axle shaft a good soaking with Liquid Wrench, etc. the night
before. As I recall from one I did a while back, I broke the hub nut loose
with the wheels on the ground, used a slide hammer to pull the hub & axle
assy free from the knuckle, then used a hub puller to break the axle free
from the hub itself. Went back together very easily.
FWIW, considering all the stress we put on these things (offset wheels, big
tires, lockers, weight, etc.) they seem to hold up better than one would
imagine. Still, not as stout as the good old inner & outer standard hub.
Just another gift from the corporate cost-cutters.
"Football God" <footballgod@heaven.com> wrote in message
news:3F86D905.FDDA6B27@heaven.com...
> Looking at the pics on the web site Bill sent, I can't tell if the hub
> assembly has both inner and outer bearings. This pics seem to show inner
> bearing still part of the jeep even after the hub is pulled off. Will
> replacing the hub replace both bearings?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> > I replaced the left front hub assembly on my '00 XJ;
> > now the right one is going (silly dealer steam cleaned
> > them too hard, all I can figger). I've got the core from
> > the left... should be same part. I'd like to save some
> > money... does anyone know if I can get a new bearing
> > pressed into the old one, or am I stuck buying the
> > assembly ($180)? It's got Command Trac, btw.
> > __
> > Steve
> > .
>
#37
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Re: Does hub assembly have both bearings?
The front hub assy is a one-piece pressed together ball bearing as I recall,
similar to those used on fwd cars. I read a web piece several years ago
where some guy had devised a way to just replace the bearing. However, best
to just toss the worn out POS and replace it with an all new assy. Easy as
pie to replace if you have the right tools. It helps if you give the splines
on the outer axle shaft a good soaking with Liquid Wrench, etc. the night
before. As I recall from one I did a while back, I broke the hub nut loose
with the wheels on the ground, used a slide hammer to pull the hub & axle
assy free from the knuckle, then used a hub puller to break the axle free
from the hub itself. Went back together very easily.
FWIW, considering all the stress we put on these things (offset wheels, big
tires, lockers, weight, etc.) they seem to hold up better than one would
imagine. Still, not as stout as the good old inner & outer standard hub.
Just another gift from the corporate cost-cutters.
"Football God" <footballgod@heaven.com> wrote in message
news:3F86D905.FDDA6B27@heaven.com...
> Looking at the pics on the web site Bill sent, I can't tell if the hub
> assembly has both inner and outer bearings. This pics seem to show inner
> bearing still part of the jeep even after the hub is pulled off. Will
> replacing the hub replace both bearings?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> > I replaced the left front hub assembly on my '00 XJ;
> > now the right one is going (silly dealer steam cleaned
> > them too hard, all I can figger). I've got the core from
> > the left... should be same part. I'd like to save some
> > money... does anyone know if I can get a new bearing
> > pressed into the old one, or am I stuck buying the
> > assembly ($180)? It's got Command Trac, btw.
> > __
> > Steve
> > .
>
similar to those used on fwd cars. I read a web piece several years ago
where some guy had devised a way to just replace the bearing. However, best
to just toss the worn out POS and replace it with an all new assy. Easy as
pie to replace if you have the right tools. It helps if you give the splines
on the outer axle shaft a good soaking with Liquid Wrench, etc. the night
before. As I recall from one I did a while back, I broke the hub nut loose
with the wheels on the ground, used a slide hammer to pull the hub & axle
assy free from the knuckle, then used a hub puller to break the axle free
from the hub itself. Went back together very easily.
FWIW, considering all the stress we put on these things (offset wheels, big
tires, lockers, weight, etc.) they seem to hold up better than one would
imagine. Still, not as stout as the good old inner & outer standard hub.
Just another gift from the corporate cost-cutters.
"Football God" <footballgod@heaven.com> wrote in message
news:3F86D905.FDDA6B27@heaven.com...
> Looking at the pics on the web site Bill sent, I can't tell if the hub
> assembly has both inner and outer bearings. This pics seem to show inner
> bearing still part of the jeep even after the hub is pulled off. Will
> replacing the hub replace both bearings?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> > I replaced the left front hub assembly on my '00 XJ;
> > now the right one is going (silly dealer steam cleaned
> > them too hard, all I can figger). I've got the core from
> > the left... should be same part. I'd like to save some
> > money... does anyone know if I can get a new bearing
> > pressed into the old one, or am I stuck buying the
> > assembly ($180)? It's got Command Trac, btw.
> > __
> > Steve
> > .
>
#38
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Re: Does hub assembly have both bearings?
L.W.(?ill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
> It's just one puny K-Car ball bearing:
Actually, in the picture Bill is referencing below, you can only see the outer
bearing. There are bearings on both sides of the mounting flange. You can
see the "space" for the other one here:
http://www.jeepaholics.com/tech/lrhubs/P9080484.JPG
> http://www.jeeping.net/HowTo/Dana30W...g/DSCF0010.JPG Shouldn't
> have been used on any four wheel drive, except for the rice burner
> motorcycle sized cars. Of course, Real Jeeps use floating bearings
> (plural) that can withstand any width or set back size rim with out
> damage.
<snip>
Funny, Timken doesn't mention the K-Car in this brochure:
http://www.timken.com/industries/aut...Brochure02.pdf
They mention that Jeep has been using their hub in the front wheel assembly
since 1990 -- long after the K-Car's _fortunate_ demise... They also mention
the fact that GM and Ford also use this technology on various vehicles.
Of course, I won't go into whether or not this assembly _should_ be used on
any "real Jeep"...
:)
-John
> It's just one puny K-Car ball bearing:
Actually, in the picture Bill is referencing below, you can only see the outer
bearing. There are bearings on both sides of the mounting flange. You can
see the "space" for the other one here:
http://www.jeepaholics.com/tech/lrhubs/P9080484.JPG
> http://www.jeeping.net/HowTo/Dana30W...g/DSCF0010.JPG Shouldn't
> have been used on any four wheel drive, except for the rice burner
> motorcycle sized cars. Of course, Real Jeeps use floating bearings
> (plural) that can withstand any width or set back size rim with out
> damage.
<snip>
Funny, Timken doesn't mention the K-Car in this brochure:
http://www.timken.com/industries/aut...Brochure02.pdf
They mention that Jeep has been using their hub in the front wheel assembly
since 1990 -- long after the K-Car's _fortunate_ demise... They also mention
the fact that GM and Ford also use this technology on various vehicles.
Of course, I won't go into whether or not this assembly _should_ be used on
any "real Jeep"...
:)
-John
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Re: Does hub assembly have both bearings?
L.W.(?ill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
> It's just one puny K-Car ball bearing:
Actually, in the picture Bill is referencing below, you can only see the outer
bearing. There are bearings on both sides of the mounting flange. You can
see the "space" for the other one here:
http://www.jeepaholics.com/tech/lrhubs/P9080484.JPG
> http://www.jeeping.net/HowTo/Dana30W...g/DSCF0010.JPG Shouldn't
> have been used on any four wheel drive, except for the rice burner
> motorcycle sized cars. Of course, Real Jeeps use floating bearings
> (plural) that can withstand any width or set back size rim with out
> damage.
<snip>
Funny, Timken doesn't mention the K-Car in this brochure:
http://www.timken.com/industries/aut...Brochure02.pdf
They mention that Jeep has been using their hub in the front wheel assembly
since 1990 -- long after the K-Car's _fortunate_ demise... They also mention
the fact that GM and Ford also use this technology on various vehicles.
Of course, I won't go into whether or not this assembly _should_ be used on
any "real Jeep"...
:)
-John
> It's just one puny K-Car ball bearing:
Actually, in the picture Bill is referencing below, you can only see the outer
bearing. There are bearings on both sides of the mounting flange. You can
see the "space" for the other one here:
http://www.jeepaholics.com/tech/lrhubs/P9080484.JPG
> http://www.jeeping.net/HowTo/Dana30W...g/DSCF0010.JPG Shouldn't
> have been used on any four wheel drive, except for the rice burner
> motorcycle sized cars. Of course, Real Jeeps use floating bearings
> (plural) that can withstand any width or set back size rim with out
> damage.
<snip>
Funny, Timken doesn't mention the K-Car in this brochure:
http://www.timken.com/industries/aut...Brochure02.pdf
They mention that Jeep has been using their hub in the front wheel assembly
since 1990 -- long after the K-Car's _fortunate_ demise... They also mention
the fact that GM and Ford also use this technology on various vehicles.
Of course, I won't go into whether or not this assembly _should_ be used on
any "real Jeep"...
:)
-John
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Re: Does hub assembly have both bearings?
L.W.(?ill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
> It's just one puny K-Car ball bearing:
Actually, in the picture Bill is referencing below, you can only see the outer
bearing. There are bearings on both sides of the mounting flange. You can
see the "space" for the other one here:
http://www.jeepaholics.com/tech/lrhubs/P9080484.JPG
> http://www.jeeping.net/HowTo/Dana30W...g/DSCF0010.JPG Shouldn't
> have been used on any four wheel drive, except for the rice burner
> motorcycle sized cars. Of course, Real Jeeps use floating bearings
> (plural) that can withstand any width or set back size rim with out
> damage.
<snip>
Funny, Timken doesn't mention the K-Car in this brochure:
http://www.timken.com/industries/aut...Brochure02.pdf
They mention that Jeep has been using their hub in the front wheel assembly
since 1990 -- long after the K-Car's _fortunate_ demise... They also mention
the fact that GM and Ford also use this technology on various vehicles.
Of course, I won't go into whether or not this assembly _should_ be used on
any "real Jeep"...
:)
-John
> It's just one puny K-Car ball bearing:
Actually, in the picture Bill is referencing below, you can only see the outer
bearing. There are bearings on both sides of the mounting flange. You can
see the "space" for the other one here:
http://www.jeepaholics.com/tech/lrhubs/P9080484.JPG
> http://www.jeeping.net/HowTo/Dana30W...g/DSCF0010.JPG Shouldn't
> have been used on any four wheel drive, except for the rice burner
> motorcycle sized cars. Of course, Real Jeeps use floating bearings
> (plural) that can withstand any width or set back size rim with out
> damage.
<snip>
Funny, Timken doesn't mention the K-Car in this brochure:
http://www.timken.com/industries/aut...Brochure02.pdf
They mention that Jeep has been using their hub in the front wheel assembly
since 1990 -- long after the K-Car's _fortunate_ demise... They also mention
the fact that GM and Ford also use this technology on various vehicles.
Of course, I won't go into whether or not this assembly _should_ be used on
any "real Jeep"...
:)
-John