replace bearing in front hub assy?
#111
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Re: Does hub assembly have both bearings?
Indeed, VW used them in the early A1 & B1 fwd cars (Rabbits & Dashers for
you non-VW types). Old Beetles had them until the dawn of ball jointed front
axles.
"Dave" <NO_vwdoc1_SPAM_@hotmail.com_PLEASE> wrote in message
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> I guess that I am used to seeing them on most of the VWs that I work on.
> ;-)
>
> later,
> dave
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3F88B3F7.C43D2699@***.net...
> > Thanks Dave, do you realize ball bearings haven't been use in passenger
> > cars since the early fifties?
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Dave wrote:
> > >
> > > here is what a front hub & bearing looks like disassembled on a 90 XJ
> > >
> > >
>
http://vwdoc1.tripod.com/personal/in..._Hub_Apart.JPG
> > >
> > > later,
> > > dave
>
>
you non-VW types). Old Beetles had them until the dawn of ball jointed front
axles.
"Dave" <NO_vwdoc1_SPAM_@hotmail.com_PLEASE> wrote in message
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> I guess that I am used to seeing them on most of the VWs that I work on.
> ;-)
>
> later,
> dave
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3F88B3F7.C43D2699@***.net...
> > Thanks Dave, do you realize ball bearings haven't been use in passenger
> > cars since the early fifties?
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Dave wrote:
> > >
> > > here is what a front hub & bearing looks like disassembled on a 90 XJ
> > >
> > >
>
http://vwdoc1.tripod.com/personal/in..._Hub_Apart.JPG
> > >
> > > later,
> > > dave
>
>
#112
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Re: Does hub assembly have both bearings?
Indeed, VW used them in the early A1 & B1 fwd cars (Rabbits & Dashers for
you non-VW types). Old Beetles had them until the dawn of ball jointed front
axles.
"Dave" <NO_vwdoc1_SPAM_@hotmail.com_PLEASE> wrote in message
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> I guess that I am used to seeing them on most of the VWs that I work on.
> ;-)
>
> later,
> dave
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3F88B3F7.C43D2699@***.net...
> > Thanks Dave, do you realize ball bearings haven't been use in passenger
> > cars since the early fifties?
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Dave wrote:
> > >
> > > here is what a front hub & bearing looks like disassembled on a 90 XJ
> > >
> > >
>
http://vwdoc1.tripod.com/personal/in..._Hub_Apart.JPG
> > >
> > > later,
> > > dave
>
>
you non-VW types). Old Beetles had them until the dawn of ball jointed front
axles.
"Dave" <NO_vwdoc1_SPAM_@hotmail.com_PLEASE> wrote in message
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> I guess that I am used to seeing them on most of the VWs that I work on.
> ;-)
>
> later,
> dave
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3F88B3F7.C43D2699@***.net...
> > Thanks Dave, do you realize ball bearings haven't been use in passenger
> > cars since the early fifties?
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Dave wrote:
> > >
> > > here is what a front hub & bearing looks like disassembled on a 90 XJ
> > >
> > >
>
http://vwdoc1.tripod.com/personal/in..._Hub_Apart.JPG
> > >
> > > later,
> > > dave
>
>
#113
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Re: replace bearing in front hub assy?
"Dave" <NO_vwdoc1_SPAM_@hotmail.com_PLEASE> wrote in message
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> You might be able to install it with a same year brake disc/rotor.
> IIRC You also might have to use different caliper bolts, the older styles
> might be too long.
>
> I put a '90 XJ front hub and rotor on my '88 XJ (4 wheel drive).
Definitely
> different brake rotors.
>
> I have seen new hubs for around $80 too!
> I got two used '90 hubs for $10, so I gave one a try. :-)
Well, I got my email back from 4wd.com... they're not sure
whether the part is different or not. I can call my trusty local
parts store, find that bit of info out, then burn them by buying
online... or not. Shipping will add some bux, and I like
having a decent relationship with parts counter guys.
The dealer wants $260, and other parts houses want
$200. Besides, then I'll have matching, made-in-Brazil
hubs!
__
Steve
..
#114
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Re: replace bearing in front hub assy?
"Dave" <NO_vwdoc1_SPAM_@hotmail.com_PLEASE> wrote in message
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> You might be able to install it with a same year brake disc/rotor.
> IIRC You also might have to use different caliper bolts, the older styles
> might be too long.
>
> I put a '90 XJ front hub and rotor on my '88 XJ (4 wheel drive).
Definitely
> different brake rotors.
>
> I have seen new hubs for around $80 too!
> I got two used '90 hubs for $10, so I gave one a try. :-)
Well, I got my email back from 4wd.com... they're not sure
whether the part is different or not. I can call my trusty local
parts store, find that bit of info out, then burn them by buying
online... or not. Shipping will add some bux, and I like
having a decent relationship with parts counter guys.
The dealer wants $260, and other parts houses want
$200. Besides, then I'll have matching, made-in-Brazil
hubs!
__
Steve
..
#115
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Re: replace bearing in front hub assy?
"Dave" <NO_vwdoc1_SPAM_@hotmail.com_PLEASE> wrote in message
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> You might be able to install it with a same year brake disc/rotor.
> IIRC You also might have to use different caliper bolts, the older styles
> might be too long.
>
> I put a '90 XJ front hub and rotor on my '88 XJ (4 wheel drive).
Definitely
> different brake rotors.
>
> I have seen new hubs for around $80 too!
> I got two used '90 hubs for $10, so I gave one a try. :-)
Well, I got my email back from 4wd.com... they're not sure
whether the part is different or not. I can call my trusty local
parts store, find that bit of info out, then burn them by buying
online... or not. Shipping will add some bux, and I like
having a decent relationship with parts counter guys.
The dealer wants $260, and other parts houses want
$200. Besides, then I'll have matching, made-in-Brazil
hubs!
__
Steve
..
#116
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Re: Does hub assembly have both bearings?
I'm with Bill on this one - every car I've had has had taper rollers. I
never had a problem with taper rollers either.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Old Crow" <walliscrow@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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: On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:52:55 -0700, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=)
: ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
:
: >Thanks Dave, do you realize ball bearings haven't been use in passenger
: >cars since the early fifties?
:
:
: I'd say the every front wheel drive car that I've ever had the hubs
: out of(and theres been a bunch of them)looked just like that.
: Also S-10 and full sized Chevy and GMC trucks use pretty much the same
: setup. The hubs on my S-10 had over 300,000 miles on them and were
: still OK when I totaled the truck.
: On a Geo Prizm(Toyota Corolla)you actually have to disassemble the
: thing and replace the bearings only.
: Seems it's a case of old technology replacing new technology...maybe
: the tapered roller bearings weren't such a good idea after all.
:
: --
: Old Crow
: '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
: '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
: ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
: TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM
never had a problem with taper rollers either.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Old Crow" <walliscrow@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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: On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:52:55 -0700, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=)
: ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
:
: >Thanks Dave, do you realize ball bearings haven't been use in passenger
: >cars since the early fifties?
:
:
: I'd say the every front wheel drive car that I've ever had the hubs
: out of(and theres been a bunch of them)looked just like that.
: Also S-10 and full sized Chevy and GMC trucks use pretty much the same
: setup. The hubs on my S-10 had over 300,000 miles on them and were
: still OK when I totaled the truck.
: On a Geo Prizm(Toyota Corolla)you actually have to disassemble the
: thing and replace the bearings only.
: Seems it's a case of old technology replacing new technology...maybe
: the tapered roller bearings weren't such a good idea after all.
:
: --
: Old Crow
: '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
: '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
: ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
: TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM
#117
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Re: Does hub assembly have both bearings?
I'm with Bill on this one - every car I've had has had taper rollers. I
never had a problem with taper rollers either.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Old Crow" <walliscrow@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3f8933f7.2041245@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
: On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:52:55 -0700, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=)
: ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
:
: >Thanks Dave, do you realize ball bearings haven't been use in passenger
: >cars since the early fifties?
:
:
: I'd say the every front wheel drive car that I've ever had the hubs
: out of(and theres been a bunch of them)looked just like that.
: Also S-10 and full sized Chevy and GMC trucks use pretty much the same
: setup. The hubs on my S-10 had over 300,000 miles on them and were
: still OK when I totaled the truck.
: On a Geo Prizm(Toyota Corolla)you actually have to disassemble the
: thing and replace the bearings only.
: Seems it's a case of old technology replacing new technology...maybe
: the tapered roller bearings weren't such a good idea after all.
:
: --
: Old Crow
: '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
: '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
: ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
: TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM
never had a problem with taper rollers either.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Old Crow" <walliscrow@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3f8933f7.2041245@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
: On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:52:55 -0700, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=)
: ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
:
: >Thanks Dave, do you realize ball bearings haven't been use in passenger
: >cars since the early fifties?
:
:
: I'd say the every front wheel drive car that I've ever had the hubs
: out of(and theres been a bunch of them)looked just like that.
: Also S-10 and full sized Chevy and GMC trucks use pretty much the same
: setup. The hubs on my S-10 had over 300,000 miles on them and were
: still OK when I totaled the truck.
: On a Geo Prizm(Toyota Corolla)you actually have to disassemble the
: thing and replace the bearings only.
: Seems it's a case of old technology replacing new technology...maybe
: the tapered roller bearings weren't such a good idea after all.
:
: --
: Old Crow
: '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
: '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
: ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
: TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM
#118
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Re: Does hub assembly have both bearings?
I'm with Bill on this one - every car I've had has had taper rollers. I
never had a problem with taper rollers either.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Old Crow" <walliscrow@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3f8933f7.2041245@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
: On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:52:55 -0700, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=)
: ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
:
: >Thanks Dave, do you realize ball bearings haven't been use in passenger
: >cars since the early fifties?
:
:
: I'd say the every front wheel drive car that I've ever had the hubs
: out of(and theres been a bunch of them)looked just like that.
: Also S-10 and full sized Chevy and GMC trucks use pretty much the same
: setup. The hubs on my S-10 had over 300,000 miles on them and were
: still OK when I totaled the truck.
: On a Geo Prizm(Toyota Corolla)you actually have to disassemble the
: thing and replace the bearings only.
: Seems it's a case of old technology replacing new technology...maybe
: the tapered roller bearings weren't such a good idea after all.
:
: --
: Old Crow
: '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
: '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
: ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
: TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM
never had a problem with taper rollers either.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Old Crow" <walliscrow@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3f8933f7.2041245@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
: On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:52:55 -0700, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=)
: ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
:
: >Thanks Dave, do you realize ball bearings haven't been use in passenger
: >cars since the early fifties?
:
:
: I'd say the every front wheel drive car that I've ever had the hubs
: out of(and theres been a bunch of them)looked just like that.
: Also S-10 and full sized Chevy and GMC trucks use pretty much the same
: setup. The hubs on my S-10 had over 300,000 miles on them and were
: still OK when I totaled the truck.
: On a Geo Prizm(Toyota Corolla)you actually have to disassemble the
: thing and replace the bearings only.
: Seems it's a case of old technology replacing new technology...maybe
: the tapered roller bearings weren't such a good idea after all.
:
: --
: Old Crow
: '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
: '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
: ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
: TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM
#119
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Re: replace bearing in front hub assy?
Remember that the rotors will have to match the hubs! And watch the caliper
bolts too!
later,
dave
" Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Dave" <NO_vwdoc1_SPAM_@hotmail.com_PLEASE> wrote in message
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> > You might be able to install it with a same year brake disc/rotor.
> > IIRC You also might have to use different caliper bolts, the older
styles
> > might be too long.
> >
> > I put a '90 XJ front hub and rotor on my '88 XJ (4 wheel drive).
> Definitely
> > different brake rotors.
> >
> > I have seen new hubs for around $80 too!
> > I got two used '90 hubs for $10, so I gave one a try. :-)
>
> Well, I got my email back from 4wd.com... they're not sure
> whether the part is different or not. I can call my trusty local
> parts store, find that bit of info out, then burn them by buying
> online... or not. Shipping will add some bux, and I like
> having a decent relationship with parts counter guys.
> The dealer wants $260, and other parts houses want
> $200. Besides, then I'll have matching, made-in-Brazil
> hubs!
> __
> Steve
> .
>
>
bolts too!
later,
dave
" Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Dave" <NO_vwdoc1_SPAM_@hotmail.com_PLEASE> wrote in message
> news:aVzib.1453$8x2.735890@newssrv26.news.prodigy. com...
> > You might be able to install it with a same year brake disc/rotor.
> > IIRC You also might have to use different caliper bolts, the older
styles
> > might be too long.
> >
> > I put a '90 XJ front hub and rotor on my '88 XJ (4 wheel drive).
> Definitely
> > different brake rotors.
> >
> > I have seen new hubs for around $80 too!
> > I got two used '90 hubs for $10, so I gave one a try. :-)
>
> Well, I got my email back from 4wd.com... they're not sure
> whether the part is different or not. I can call my trusty local
> parts store, find that bit of info out, then burn them by buying
> online... or not. Shipping will add some bux, and I like
> having a decent relationship with parts counter guys.
> The dealer wants $260, and other parts houses want
> $200. Besides, then I'll have matching, made-in-Brazil
> hubs!
> __
> Steve
> .
>
>
#120
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Re: replace bearing in front hub assy?
Remember that the rotors will have to match the hubs! And watch the caliper
bolts too!
later,
dave
" Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Dave" <NO_vwdoc1_SPAM_@hotmail.com_PLEASE> wrote in message
> news:aVzib.1453$8x2.735890@newssrv26.news.prodigy. com...
> > You might be able to install it with a same year brake disc/rotor.
> > IIRC You also might have to use different caliper bolts, the older
styles
> > might be too long.
> >
> > I put a '90 XJ front hub and rotor on my '88 XJ (4 wheel drive).
> Definitely
> > different brake rotors.
> >
> > I have seen new hubs for around $80 too!
> > I got two used '90 hubs for $10, so I gave one a try. :-)
>
> Well, I got my email back from 4wd.com... they're not sure
> whether the part is different or not. I can call my trusty local
> parts store, find that bit of info out, then burn them by buying
> online... or not. Shipping will add some bux, and I like
> having a decent relationship with parts counter guys.
> The dealer wants $260, and other parts houses want
> $200. Besides, then I'll have matching, made-in-Brazil
> hubs!
> __
> Steve
> .
>
>
bolts too!
later,
dave
" Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Dave" <NO_vwdoc1_SPAM_@hotmail.com_PLEASE> wrote in message
> news:aVzib.1453$8x2.735890@newssrv26.news.prodigy. com...
> > You might be able to install it with a same year brake disc/rotor.
> > IIRC You also might have to use different caliper bolts, the older
styles
> > might be too long.
> >
> > I put a '90 XJ front hub and rotor on my '88 XJ (4 wheel drive).
> Definitely
> > different brake rotors.
> >
> > I have seen new hubs for around $80 too!
> > I got two used '90 hubs for $10, so I gave one a try. :-)
>
> Well, I got my email back from 4wd.com... they're not sure
> whether the part is different or not. I can call my trusty local
> parts store, find that bit of info out, then burn them by buying
> online... or not. Shipping will add some bux, and I like
> having a decent relationship with parts counter guys.
> The dealer wants $260, and other parts houses want
> $200. Besides, then I'll have matching, made-in-Brazil
> hubs!
> __
> Steve
> .
>
>