Remote Keyless EntryTransmitter?/2002Grand Cherroke
12-03-2007, 10:36 PM
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Re: Remote Keyless EntryTransmitter?/2002Grand Cherroke
reboot <reboot@nothere.com> wrote:
> he got around 14 MPG w/ almost exclusively freeway driving and it
> required premium gas.
That's a killer for me, it's a very big increase in the cost of running
the critter. I noticed the 4.7 V8 has a high performance version that
requires premium and I'd sure be avoiding that model. I'd like the
extra performance but I'm too cheap to pay for it. ;-)
> that jeep launched hard ... but not as hard as the SRT8 he
> upgraded to last year. but neither one of them ever saw a mile
> off-road
Makes sense to me, the SRT8 is WAY too expensive for me to ever
think of taking it off road unless I can borrow your friend's SRT8!
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> he got around 14 MPG w/ almost exclusively freeway driving and it
> required premium gas.
That's a killer for me, it's a very big increase in the cost of running
the critter. I noticed the 4.7 V8 has a high performance version that
requires premium and I'd sure be avoiding that model. I'd like the
extra performance but I'm too cheap to pay for it. ;-)
> that jeep launched hard ... but not as hard as the SRT8 he
> upgraded to last year. but neither one of them ever saw a mile
> off-road
Makes sense to me, the SRT8 is WAY too expensive for me to ever
think of taking it off road unless I can borrow your friend's SRT8!
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12-03-2007, 10:47 PM
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Re: Remote Keyless EntryTransmitter?/2002Grand Cherroke
Lon Stowell <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
> XS11E wrote:
>> But in this case the EPA says it does cut gas mileage.
> The EPA's mileage ratings are fair only in that they are equally
> irrelevant for real world driving conditions.
You don't mind if I completely ignore your rant, do you? I've had
quite a few vehicles since the feds began issuing mileage figures and
every single one of them has matched or slightly bettered the figures
given. So, for me, their figures are completely revelant for real
world driving conditions.
I should point out that, unlike most, I really do know my gas mileage
for each vehicle. I keep a log and record gallons, miles used and mpg
for every tankful and I figure the year's average mpg for each vehicle
every January.
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> XS11E wrote:
>> But in this case the EPA says it does cut gas mileage.
> The EPA's mileage ratings are fair only in that they are equally
> irrelevant for real world driving conditions.
You don't mind if I completely ignore your rant, do you? I've had
quite a few vehicles since the feds began issuing mileage figures and
every single one of them has matched or slightly bettered the figures
given. So, for me, their figures are completely revelant for real
world driving conditions.
I should point out that, unlike most, I really do know my gas mileage
for each vehicle. I keep a log and record gallons, miles used and mpg
for every tankful and I figure the year's average mpg for each vehicle
every January.
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12-03-2007, 10:47 PM
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Re: Remote Keyless EntryTransmitter?/2002Grand Cherroke
Lon Stowell <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
> XS11E wrote:
>> But in this case the EPA says it does cut gas mileage.
> The EPA's mileage ratings are fair only in that they are equally
> irrelevant for real world driving conditions.
You don't mind if I completely ignore your rant, do you? I've had
quite a few vehicles since the feds began issuing mileage figures and
every single one of them has matched or slightly bettered the figures
given. So, for me, their figures are completely revelant for real
world driving conditions.
I should point out that, unlike most, I really do know my gas mileage
for each vehicle. I keep a log and record gallons, miles used and mpg
for every tankful and I figure the year's average mpg for each vehicle
every January.
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> XS11E wrote:
>> But in this case the EPA says it does cut gas mileage.
> The EPA's mileage ratings are fair only in that they are equally
> irrelevant for real world driving conditions.
You don't mind if I completely ignore your rant, do you? I've had
quite a few vehicles since the feds began issuing mileage figures and
every single one of them has matched or slightly bettered the figures
given. So, for me, their figures are completely revelant for real
world driving conditions.
I should point out that, unlike most, I really do know my gas mileage
for each vehicle. I keep a log and record gallons, miles used and mpg
for every tankful and I figure the year's average mpg for each vehicle
every January.
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12-04-2007, 12:36 AM
#44
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Re: Remote Keyless EntryTransmitter?/2002Grand Cherroke
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 09:11:31 -0700, XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com>
wrote:
>"DougW" <I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote:
>
>> The only thing I was tempted to do was to swap out for a 95 with the
>> rear flipper glass and 4 wheel disc brakes. That and the 5.9 V8 :)
>> Every once in a while you can find them for a reasonable price.
>
>I've never had the urge for the 5.9, I always thought it would hurt gas
>mileage. Wonder if it would and if so, how much? What's the mileage
>rating below "abysmal"?
>
>The 4 wheel disks are nice, I'm not sure the flipper glass would be
>used much. I would like the later seats, I think the '95 has the
>lumbar adjustment and, if so, that would be very nice.
>
>However, all in all, I think my best move is to keep my '93 until it
>hits 100,000 miles and that's years away since I don't drive it much
>now.
*Only* 100K miles? ;-)
I bought a used 95 XJ 2 years ago.
It had just under THREE HUNDRED K then, with a rebuilt engine that
supposedly had "only" about 50K on it.
No major problems so far (knocking on wood as I type this).
....
wrote:
>"DougW" <I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote:
>
>> The only thing I was tempted to do was to swap out for a 95 with the
>> rear flipper glass and 4 wheel disc brakes. That and the 5.9 V8 :)
>> Every once in a while you can find them for a reasonable price.
>
>I've never had the urge for the 5.9, I always thought it would hurt gas
>mileage. Wonder if it would and if so, how much? What's the mileage
>rating below "abysmal"?
>
>The 4 wheel disks are nice, I'm not sure the flipper glass would be
>used much. I would like the later seats, I think the '95 has the
>lumbar adjustment and, if so, that would be very nice.
>
>However, all in all, I think my best move is to keep my '93 until it
>hits 100,000 miles and that's years away since I don't drive it much
>now.
*Only* 100K miles? ;-)
I bought a used 95 XJ 2 years ago.
It had just under THREE HUNDRED K then, with a rebuilt engine that
supposedly had "only" about 50K on it.
No major problems so far (knocking on wood as I type this).
....
12-04-2007, 12:36 AM
#45
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Re: Remote Keyless EntryTransmitter?/2002Grand Cherroke
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 09:11:31 -0700, XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com>
wrote:
>"DougW" <I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote:
>
>> The only thing I was tempted to do was to swap out for a 95 with the
>> rear flipper glass and 4 wheel disc brakes. That and the 5.9 V8 :)
>> Every once in a while you can find them for a reasonable price.
>
>I've never had the urge for the 5.9, I always thought it would hurt gas
>mileage. Wonder if it would and if so, how much? What's the mileage
>rating below "abysmal"?
>
>The 4 wheel disks are nice, I'm not sure the flipper glass would be
>used much. I would like the later seats, I think the '95 has the
>lumbar adjustment and, if so, that would be very nice.
>
>However, all in all, I think my best move is to keep my '93 until it
>hits 100,000 miles and that's years away since I don't drive it much
>now.
*Only* 100K miles? ;-)
I bought a used 95 XJ 2 years ago.
It had just under THREE HUNDRED K then, with a rebuilt engine that
supposedly had "only" about 50K on it.
No major problems so far (knocking on wood as I type this).
....
wrote:
>"DougW" <I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote:
>
>> The only thing I was tempted to do was to swap out for a 95 with the
>> rear flipper glass and 4 wheel disc brakes. That and the 5.9 V8 :)
>> Every once in a while you can find them for a reasonable price.
>
>I've never had the urge for the 5.9, I always thought it would hurt gas
>mileage. Wonder if it would and if so, how much? What's the mileage
>rating below "abysmal"?
>
>The 4 wheel disks are nice, I'm not sure the flipper glass would be
>used much. I would like the later seats, I think the '95 has the
>lumbar adjustment and, if so, that would be very nice.
>
>However, all in all, I think my best move is to keep my '93 until it
>hits 100,000 miles and that's years away since I don't drive it much
>now.
*Only* 100K miles? ;-)
I bought a used 95 XJ 2 years ago.
It had just under THREE HUNDRED K then, with a rebuilt engine that
supposedly had "only" about 50K on it.
No major problems so far (knocking on wood as I type this).
....
12-04-2007, 12:52 AM
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Re: Remote Keyless EntryTransmitter?/2002Grand Cherroke
In article <Xns99F8B3AD3C86Bxs11emailinatorcom@85.214.90.236> ,
XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote:
#herb@urusei.net (Herb Leong) wrote:
#
#> In article <Xns99F89001A12DBxs11emailinatorcom@85.214.90.236> ,
#> XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote:
#>
#> #You're kidding? My '93 GC remote keyless entry transmitter
#> programmed
#
#> Nope. Not kidding. Your '93 is a ZJ, the OP's '02 is
#> a WJ.
#
#Some time back I was at my local dealer and was offered a pretty good
#deal on a really beautiful '02 GC ltd. I passed but I really liked the
#critter. Later I kept thinking about it and even looked at ads, etc.
#and asked here for information and comments and I finally decided no,
#I'd keep the '93.
#
#I'm VERY glad I did. I believe it will be my last Jeep vehicle...
If I had to pick the best model year for a WJ, it would have to be
the '04. It had the longest production run (started in 1/03) and
much of the crap that kept breaking on the WJs was removed. I would
also pick the i6 over the v8 (for repairability/reliability reasons
only--the v8 is much more fun if you are a lead foot).
/herb
XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote:
#herb@urusei.net (Herb Leong) wrote:
#
#> In article <Xns99F89001A12DBxs11emailinatorcom@85.214.90.236> ,
#> XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote:
#>
#> #You're kidding? My '93 GC remote keyless entry transmitter
#> programmed
#
#> Nope. Not kidding. Your '93 is a ZJ, the OP's '02 is
#> a WJ.
#
#Some time back I was at my local dealer and was offered a pretty good
#deal on a really beautiful '02 GC ltd. I passed but I really liked the
#critter. Later I kept thinking about it and even looked at ads, etc.
#and asked here for information and comments and I finally decided no,
#I'd keep the '93.
#
#I'm VERY glad I did. I believe it will be my last Jeep vehicle...
If I had to pick the best model year for a WJ, it would have to be
the '04. It had the longest production run (started in 1/03) and
much of the crap that kept breaking on the WJs was removed. I would
also pick the i6 over the v8 (for repairability/reliability reasons
only--the v8 is much more fun if you are a lead foot).
/herb
12-04-2007, 12:52 AM
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Re: Remote Keyless EntryTransmitter?/2002Grand Cherroke
In article <Xns99F8B3AD3C86Bxs11emailinatorcom@85.214.90.236> ,
XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote:
#herb@urusei.net (Herb Leong) wrote:
#
#> In article <Xns99F89001A12DBxs11emailinatorcom@85.214.90.236> ,
#> XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote:
#>
#> #You're kidding? My '93 GC remote keyless entry transmitter
#> programmed
#
#> Nope. Not kidding. Your '93 is a ZJ, the OP's '02 is
#> a WJ.
#
#Some time back I was at my local dealer and was offered a pretty good
#deal on a really beautiful '02 GC ltd. I passed but I really liked the
#critter. Later I kept thinking about it and even looked at ads, etc.
#and asked here for information and comments and I finally decided no,
#I'd keep the '93.
#
#I'm VERY glad I did. I believe it will be my last Jeep vehicle...
If I had to pick the best model year for a WJ, it would have to be
the '04. It had the longest production run (started in 1/03) and
much of the crap that kept breaking on the WJs was removed. I would
also pick the i6 over the v8 (for repairability/reliability reasons
only--the v8 is much more fun if you are a lead foot).
/herb
XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote:
#herb@urusei.net (Herb Leong) wrote:
#
#> In article <Xns99F89001A12DBxs11emailinatorcom@85.214.90.236> ,
#> XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote:
#>
#> #You're kidding? My '93 GC remote keyless entry transmitter
#> programmed
#
#> Nope. Not kidding. Your '93 is a ZJ, the OP's '02 is
#> a WJ.
#
#Some time back I was at my local dealer and was offered a pretty good
#deal on a really beautiful '02 GC ltd. I passed but I really liked the
#critter. Later I kept thinking about it and even looked at ads, etc.
#and asked here for information and comments and I finally decided no,
#I'd keep the '93.
#
#I'm VERY glad I did. I believe it will be my last Jeep vehicle...
If I had to pick the best model year for a WJ, it would have to be
the '04. It had the longest production run (started in 1/03) and
much of the crap that kept breaking on the WJs was removed. I would
also pick the i6 over the v8 (for repairability/reliability reasons
only--the v8 is much more fun if you are a lead foot).
/herb
12-04-2007, 02:04 AM
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Re: Remote Keyless EntryTransmitter?/2002Grand Cherroke
I guess you've never read the disclaimer "actual mileage may vary" apart
of the unreal EPA MPG estimates that are listed on the new car window
stickers.
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>
> You don't mind if I completely ignore your rant, do you? I've had
> quite a few vehicles since the feds began issuing mileage figures and
> every single one of them has matched or slightly bettered the figures
> given. So, for me, their figures are completely revelant for real
> world driving conditions.
>
> I should point out that, unlike most, I really do know my gas mileage
> for each vehicle. I keep a log and record gallons, miles used and mpg
> for every tankful and I figure the year's average mpg for each vehicle
> every January.
>
>
>
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of the unreal EPA MPG estimates that are listed on the new car window
stickers.
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>
> You don't mind if I completely ignore your rant, do you? I've had
> quite a few vehicles since the feds began issuing mileage figures and
> every single one of them has matched or slightly bettered the figures
> given. So, for me, their figures are completely revelant for real
> world driving conditions.
>
> I should point out that, unlike most, I really do know my gas mileage
> for each vehicle. I keep a log and record gallons, miles used and mpg
> for every tankful and I figure the year's average mpg for each vehicle
> every January.
>
>
>
> --
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12-04-2007, 02:04 AM
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Re: Remote Keyless EntryTransmitter?/2002Grand Cherroke
I guess you've never read the disclaimer "actual mileage may vary" apart
of the unreal EPA MPG estimates that are listed on the new car window
stickers.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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"XS11E" <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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>
> You don't mind if I completely ignore your rant, do you? I've had
> quite a few vehicles since the feds began issuing mileage figures and
> every single one of them has matched or slightly bettered the figures
> given. So, for me, their figures are completely revelant for real
> world driving conditions.
>
> I should point out that, unlike most, I really do know my gas mileage
> for each vehicle. I keep a log and record gallons, miles used and mpg
> for every tankful and I figure the year's average mpg for each vehicle
> every January.
>
>
>
> --
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of the unreal EPA MPG estimates that are listed on the new car window
stickers.
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>
> You don't mind if I completely ignore your rant, do you? I've had
> quite a few vehicles since the feds began issuing mileage figures and
> every single one of them has matched or slightly bettered the figures
> given. So, for me, their figures are completely revelant for real
> world driving conditions.
>
> I should point out that, unlike most, I really do know my gas mileage
> for each vehicle. I keep a log and record gallons, miles used and mpg
> for every tankful and I figure the year's average mpg for each vehicle
> every January.
>
>
>
> --
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12-05-2007, 05:43 AM
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Re: Remote Keyless EntryTransmitter?/2002Grand Cherroke
In article <Xns99FBD1A9B8932xs11emailinatorcom@85.214.90.236> ,
XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote:
#reboot <reboot@nothere.com> wrote:
#
#> he got around 14 MPG w/ almost exclusively freeway driving and it
#> required premium gas.
#
#That's a killer for me, it's a very big increase in the cost of running
#the critter. I noticed the 4.7 V8 has a high performance version that
#requires premium and I'd sure be avoiding that model. I'd like the
#extra performance but I'm too cheap to pay for it. ;-)
The 4.7HO is listed as being able to run on the cheap stuff as well as
on premium. The engine changes the way it burns the fuel to compensate
for the higher or lower octane.
/herb
XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote:
#reboot <reboot@nothere.com> wrote:
#
#> he got around 14 MPG w/ almost exclusively freeway driving and it
#> required premium gas.
#
#That's a killer for me, it's a very big increase in the cost of running
#the critter. I noticed the 4.7 V8 has a high performance version that
#requires premium and I'd sure be avoiding that model. I'd like the
#extra performance but I'm too cheap to pay for it. ;-)
The 4.7HO is listed as being able to run on the cheap stuff as well as
on premium. The engine changes the way it burns the fuel to compensate
for the higher or lower octane.
/herb