Rear Seal / Oil Pan
#21
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Re: Rear Seal / Oil Pan
On the ones I do, I use the soap and oil on the seal and have had good
luck with them. The tabs or end wings on the seal also have to have RTV
on both sides of them. The cap needs it out at the edges on the angled
part
The trick is to get the pan and block super clean. Acetone works well
or brake cleaner for this. One fingerprint and the buggers will leak.
If using the cork, I use a thin skim of RTV silicone on both sides. I
think I even did that on my one piece I have in there now. No leaks
anyway. :-)
looking at your pan, I recommend RTV no matter what gasket. It fills in
the dents.
Then one big one a lot of folks forget is that RTV takes 24 hours to
cure. If you put oil in it or start it up before then, it likely will
leak.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jeepster wrote:
>
> I did the valve cover last week to rule out the easy fix....now I'm
> in new territory doing the real seal and oil pan. :)
>
> On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:09:59 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >If you follow the directions, you will get it.
> >
> >I prefer the one piece pan gasket.
> >
> >Then when you have it all back together and it still leaks out on the
> >ground, go up top and fix the leaky valve cover....
> >;-)
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >Jeepster wrote:
> >>
> >> (87 YJ 258)
> >> I got very tired of oil messing up my driveway and decided to tackle
> >> the oil pan gasket and half way through that I came to my senses and
> >> realized while I had the pan off why not do the rear seal.
> >>
> >> I have a few questions before I put it back together tomorrow.
> >>
> >> 1.) Haynes says to remove the bell housing inspection plate?
> >>
> >> I took out all the bolts I could find (including 2 that go thru from
> >> the rear) and it wouldn't budge. This didn't stop me from getting the
> >> pan off so I can assume it was an unnessesary step.
> >>
> >> 2.) Haynes says to apply RTV to the chamfered edges of the bearing
> >> retainer.
> >>
> >> Looking at this picture .....do I have the right spot?
> >> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/rear_seal.htm
> >> It seems to me if I apply RTV here it will play with the clearance
> >> between the bearing and the cap.
> >>
> >> 3.) Also should I plan to appy rtv to the cork gaskets but should I
> >> appy RTV to the rear oil pan seal when I reinstall?
> >>
> >> Oh.... I almost forgot they also state in the manual to apply liquid
> >> soap to the seal.... What would you folks recommend?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance.
luck with them. The tabs or end wings on the seal also have to have RTV
on both sides of them. The cap needs it out at the edges on the angled
part
The trick is to get the pan and block super clean. Acetone works well
or brake cleaner for this. One fingerprint and the buggers will leak.
If using the cork, I use a thin skim of RTV silicone on both sides. I
think I even did that on my one piece I have in there now. No leaks
anyway. :-)
looking at your pan, I recommend RTV no matter what gasket. It fills in
the dents.
Then one big one a lot of folks forget is that RTV takes 24 hours to
cure. If you put oil in it or start it up before then, it likely will
leak.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jeepster wrote:
>
> I did the valve cover last week to rule out the easy fix....now I'm
> in new territory doing the real seal and oil pan. :)
>
> On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:09:59 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >If you follow the directions, you will get it.
> >
> >I prefer the one piece pan gasket.
> >
> >Then when you have it all back together and it still leaks out on the
> >ground, go up top and fix the leaky valve cover....
> >;-)
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >Jeepster wrote:
> >>
> >> (87 YJ 258)
> >> I got very tired of oil messing up my driveway and decided to tackle
> >> the oil pan gasket and half way through that I came to my senses and
> >> realized while I had the pan off why not do the rear seal.
> >>
> >> I have a few questions before I put it back together tomorrow.
> >>
> >> 1.) Haynes says to remove the bell housing inspection plate?
> >>
> >> I took out all the bolts I could find (including 2 that go thru from
> >> the rear) and it wouldn't budge. This didn't stop me from getting the
> >> pan off so I can assume it was an unnessesary step.
> >>
> >> 2.) Haynes says to apply RTV to the chamfered edges of the bearing
> >> retainer.
> >>
> >> Looking at this picture .....do I have the right spot?
> >> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/rear_seal.htm
> >> It seems to me if I apply RTV here it will play with the clearance
> >> between the bearing and the cap.
> >>
> >> 3.) Also should I plan to appy rtv to the cork gaskets but should I
> >> appy RTV to the rear oil pan seal when I reinstall?
> >>
> >> Oh.... I almost forgot they also state in the manual to apply liquid
> >> soap to the seal.... What would you folks recommend?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance.
#22
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Re: Rear Seal / Oil Pan
I cleaned the pan and the block and used a brass brush to polish it
up, I ran out of blue RTV so I went with the black on the seal tabs
and both sides of the pan gaskets I also put some on the outer edge of
the bearing retainer. I was amazed when I lifted the pan in place and
every hole lined up perfectly, I tourqued it to 8 foot pounds 1/2 hour
ago and I will go back around it later and put it to 10 foot pounds. (
no oil will go in this vehicle until tomorrow ....thanks)
On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 14:20:34 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>On the ones I do, I use the soap and oil on the seal and have had good
>luck with them. The tabs or end wings on the seal also have to have RTV
>on both sides of them. The cap needs it out at the edges on the angled
>part
>
>The trick is to get the pan and block super clean. Acetone works well
>or brake cleaner for this. One fingerprint and the buggers will leak.
>
>If using the cork, I use a thin skim of RTV silicone on both sides. I
>think I even did that on my one piece I have in there now. No leaks
>anyway. :-)
>
>looking at your pan, I recommend RTV no matter what gasket. It fills in
>the dents.
>
>Then one big one a lot of folks forget is that RTV takes 24 hours to
>cure. If you put oil in it or start it up before then, it likely will
>leak.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>Jeepster wrote:
>>
>> I did the valve cover last week to rule out the easy fix....now I'm
>> in new territory doing the real seal and oil pan. :)
>>
>> On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:09:59 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >If you follow the directions, you will get it.
>> >
>> >I prefer the one piece pan gasket.
>> >
>> >Then when you have it all back together and it still leaks out on the
>> >ground, go up top and fix the leaky valve cover....
>> >;-)
>> >
>> >Mike
>> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> >Jeepster wrote:
>> >>
>> >> (87 YJ 258)
>> >> I got very tired of oil messing up my driveway and decided to tackle
>> >> the oil pan gasket and half way through that I came to my senses and
>> >> realized while I had the pan off why not do the rear seal.
>> >>
>> >> I have a few questions before I put it back together tomorrow.
>> >>
>> >> 1.) Haynes says to remove the bell housing inspection plate?
>> >>
>> >> I took out all the bolts I could find (including 2 that go thru from
>> >> the rear) and it wouldn't budge. This didn't stop me from getting the
>> >> pan off so I can assume it was an unnessesary step.
>> >>
>> >> 2.) Haynes says to apply RTV to the chamfered edges of the bearing
>> >> retainer.
>> >>
>> >> Looking at this picture .....do I have the right spot?
>> >> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/rear_seal.htm
>> >> It seems to me if I apply RTV here it will play with the clearance
>> >> between the bearing and the cap.
>> >>
>> >> 3.) Also should I plan to appy rtv to the cork gaskets but should I
>> >> appy RTV to the rear oil pan seal when I reinstall?
>> >>
>> >> Oh.... I almost forgot they also state in the manual to apply liquid
>> >> soap to the seal.... What would you folks recommend?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks in advance.
up, I ran out of blue RTV so I went with the black on the seal tabs
and both sides of the pan gaskets I also put some on the outer edge of
the bearing retainer. I was amazed when I lifted the pan in place and
every hole lined up perfectly, I tourqued it to 8 foot pounds 1/2 hour
ago and I will go back around it later and put it to 10 foot pounds. (
no oil will go in this vehicle until tomorrow ....thanks)
On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 14:20:34 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>On the ones I do, I use the soap and oil on the seal and have had good
>luck with them. The tabs or end wings on the seal also have to have RTV
>on both sides of them. The cap needs it out at the edges on the angled
>part
>
>The trick is to get the pan and block super clean. Acetone works well
>or brake cleaner for this. One fingerprint and the buggers will leak.
>
>If using the cork, I use a thin skim of RTV silicone on both sides. I
>think I even did that on my one piece I have in there now. No leaks
>anyway. :-)
>
>looking at your pan, I recommend RTV no matter what gasket. It fills in
>the dents.
>
>Then one big one a lot of folks forget is that RTV takes 24 hours to
>cure. If you put oil in it or start it up before then, it likely will
>leak.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>Jeepster wrote:
>>
>> I did the valve cover last week to rule out the easy fix....now I'm
>> in new territory doing the real seal and oil pan. :)
>>
>> On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:09:59 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >If you follow the directions, you will get it.
>> >
>> >I prefer the one piece pan gasket.
>> >
>> >Then when you have it all back together and it still leaks out on the
>> >ground, go up top and fix the leaky valve cover....
>> >;-)
>> >
>> >Mike
>> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> >Jeepster wrote:
>> >>
>> >> (87 YJ 258)
>> >> I got very tired of oil messing up my driveway and decided to tackle
>> >> the oil pan gasket and half way through that I came to my senses and
>> >> realized while I had the pan off why not do the rear seal.
>> >>
>> >> I have a few questions before I put it back together tomorrow.
>> >>
>> >> 1.) Haynes says to remove the bell housing inspection plate?
>> >>
>> >> I took out all the bolts I could find (including 2 that go thru from
>> >> the rear) and it wouldn't budge. This didn't stop me from getting the
>> >> pan off so I can assume it was an unnessesary step.
>> >>
>> >> 2.) Haynes says to apply RTV to the chamfered edges of the bearing
>> >> retainer.
>> >>
>> >> Looking at this picture .....do I have the right spot?
>> >> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/rear_seal.htm
>> >> It seems to me if I apply RTV here it will play with the clearance
>> >> between the bearing and the cap.
>> >>
>> >> 3.) Also should I plan to appy rtv to the cork gaskets but should I
>> >> appy RTV to the rear oil pan seal when I reinstall?
>> >>
>> >> Oh.... I almost forgot they also state in the manual to apply liquid
>> >> soap to the seal.... What would you folks recommend?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks in advance.
#23
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Re: Rear Seal / Oil Pan
I cleaned the pan and the block and used a brass brush to polish it
up, I ran out of blue RTV so I went with the black on the seal tabs
and both sides of the pan gaskets I also put some on the outer edge of
the bearing retainer. I was amazed when I lifted the pan in place and
every hole lined up perfectly, I tourqued it to 8 foot pounds 1/2 hour
ago and I will go back around it later and put it to 10 foot pounds. (
no oil will go in this vehicle until tomorrow ....thanks)
On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 14:20:34 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>On the ones I do, I use the soap and oil on the seal and have had good
>luck with them. The tabs or end wings on the seal also have to have RTV
>on both sides of them. The cap needs it out at the edges on the angled
>part
>
>The trick is to get the pan and block super clean. Acetone works well
>or brake cleaner for this. One fingerprint and the buggers will leak.
>
>If using the cork, I use a thin skim of RTV silicone on both sides. I
>think I even did that on my one piece I have in there now. No leaks
>anyway. :-)
>
>looking at your pan, I recommend RTV no matter what gasket. It fills in
>the dents.
>
>Then one big one a lot of folks forget is that RTV takes 24 hours to
>cure. If you put oil in it or start it up before then, it likely will
>leak.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>Jeepster wrote:
>>
>> I did the valve cover last week to rule out the easy fix....now I'm
>> in new territory doing the real seal and oil pan. :)
>>
>> On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:09:59 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >If you follow the directions, you will get it.
>> >
>> >I prefer the one piece pan gasket.
>> >
>> >Then when you have it all back together and it still leaks out on the
>> >ground, go up top and fix the leaky valve cover....
>> >;-)
>> >
>> >Mike
>> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> >Jeepster wrote:
>> >>
>> >> (87 YJ 258)
>> >> I got very tired of oil messing up my driveway and decided to tackle
>> >> the oil pan gasket and half way through that I came to my senses and
>> >> realized while I had the pan off why not do the rear seal.
>> >>
>> >> I have a few questions before I put it back together tomorrow.
>> >>
>> >> 1.) Haynes says to remove the bell housing inspection plate?
>> >>
>> >> I took out all the bolts I could find (including 2 that go thru from
>> >> the rear) and it wouldn't budge. This didn't stop me from getting the
>> >> pan off so I can assume it was an unnessesary step.
>> >>
>> >> 2.) Haynes says to apply RTV to the chamfered edges of the bearing
>> >> retainer.
>> >>
>> >> Looking at this picture .....do I have the right spot?
>> >> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/rear_seal.htm
>> >> It seems to me if I apply RTV here it will play with the clearance
>> >> between the bearing and the cap.
>> >>
>> >> 3.) Also should I plan to appy rtv to the cork gaskets but should I
>> >> appy RTV to the rear oil pan seal when I reinstall?
>> >>
>> >> Oh.... I almost forgot they also state in the manual to apply liquid
>> >> soap to the seal.... What would you folks recommend?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks in advance.
up, I ran out of blue RTV so I went with the black on the seal tabs
and both sides of the pan gaskets I also put some on the outer edge of
the bearing retainer. I was amazed when I lifted the pan in place and
every hole lined up perfectly, I tourqued it to 8 foot pounds 1/2 hour
ago and I will go back around it later and put it to 10 foot pounds. (
no oil will go in this vehicle until tomorrow ....thanks)
On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 14:20:34 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>On the ones I do, I use the soap and oil on the seal and have had good
>luck with them. The tabs or end wings on the seal also have to have RTV
>on both sides of them. The cap needs it out at the edges on the angled
>part
>
>The trick is to get the pan and block super clean. Acetone works well
>or brake cleaner for this. One fingerprint and the buggers will leak.
>
>If using the cork, I use a thin skim of RTV silicone on both sides. I
>think I even did that on my one piece I have in there now. No leaks
>anyway. :-)
>
>looking at your pan, I recommend RTV no matter what gasket. It fills in
>the dents.
>
>Then one big one a lot of folks forget is that RTV takes 24 hours to
>cure. If you put oil in it or start it up before then, it likely will
>leak.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>Jeepster wrote:
>>
>> I did the valve cover last week to rule out the easy fix....now I'm
>> in new territory doing the real seal and oil pan. :)
>>
>> On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:09:59 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >If you follow the directions, you will get it.
>> >
>> >I prefer the one piece pan gasket.
>> >
>> >Then when you have it all back together and it still leaks out on the
>> >ground, go up top and fix the leaky valve cover....
>> >;-)
>> >
>> >Mike
>> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> >Jeepster wrote:
>> >>
>> >> (87 YJ 258)
>> >> I got very tired of oil messing up my driveway and decided to tackle
>> >> the oil pan gasket and half way through that I came to my senses and
>> >> realized while I had the pan off why not do the rear seal.
>> >>
>> >> I have a few questions before I put it back together tomorrow.
>> >>
>> >> 1.) Haynes says to remove the bell housing inspection plate?
>> >>
>> >> I took out all the bolts I could find (including 2 that go thru from
>> >> the rear) and it wouldn't budge. This didn't stop me from getting the
>> >> pan off so I can assume it was an unnessesary step.
>> >>
>> >> 2.) Haynes says to apply RTV to the chamfered edges of the bearing
>> >> retainer.
>> >>
>> >> Looking at this picture .....do I have the right spot?
>> >> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/rear_seal.htm
>> >> It seems to me if I apply RTV here it will play with the clearance
>> >> between the bearing and the cap.
>> >>
>> >> 3.) Also should I plan to appy rtv to the cork gaskets but should I
>> >> appy RTV to the rear oil pan seal when I reinstall?
>> >>
>> >> Oh.... I almost forgot they also state in the manual to apply liquid
>> >> soap to the seal.... What would you folks recommend?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks in advance.
#24
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Rear Seal / Oil Pan
I cleaned the pan and the block and used a brass brush to polish it
up, I ran out of blue RTV so I went with the black on the seal tabs
and both sides of the pan gaskets I also put some on the outer edge of
the bearing retainer. I was amazed when I lifted the pan in place and
every hole lined up perfectly, I tourqued it to 8 foot pounds 1/2 hour
ago and I will go back around it later and put it to 10 foot pounds. (
no oil will go in this vehicle until tomorrow ....thanks)
On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 14:20:34 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>On the ones I do, I use the soap and oil on the seal and have had good
>luck with them. The tabs or end wings on the seal also have to have RTV
>on both sides of them. The cap needs it out at the edges on the angled
>part
>
>The trick is to get the pan and block super clean. Acetone works well
>or brake cleaner for this. One fingerprint and the buggers will leak.
>
>If using the cork, I use a thin skim of RTV silicone on both sides. I
>think I even did that on my one piece I have in there now. No leaks
>anyway. :-)
>
>looking at your pan, I recommend RTV no matter what gasket. It fills in
>the dents.
>
>Then one big one a lot of folks forget is that RTV takes 24 hours to
>cure. If you put oil in it or start it up before then, it likely will
>leak.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>Jeepster wrote:
>>
>> I did the valve cover last week to rule out the easy fix....now I'm
>> in new territory doing the real seal and oil pan. :)
>>
>> On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:09:59 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >If you follow the directions, you will get it.
>> >
>> >I prefer the one piece pan gasket.
>> >
>> >Then when you have it all back together and it still leaks out on the
>> >ground, go up top and fix the leaky valve cover....
>> >;-)
>> >
>> >Mike
>> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> >Jeepster wrote:
>> >>
>> >> (87 YJ 258)
>> >> I got very tired of oil messing up my driveway and decided to tackle
>> >> the oil pan gasket and half way through that I came to my senses and
>> >> realized while I had the pan off why not do the rear seal.
>> >>
>> >> I have a few questions before I put it back together tomorrow.
>> >>
>> >> 1.) Haynes says to remove the bell housing inspection plate?
>> >>
>> >> I took out all the bolts I could find (including 2 that go thru from
>> >> the rear) and it wouldn't budge. This didn't stop me from getting the
>> >> pan off so I can assume it was an unnessesary step.
>> >>
>> >> 2.) Haynes says to apply RTV to the chamfered edges of the bearing
>> >> retainer.
>> >>
>> >> Looking at this picture .....do I have the right spot?
>> >> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/rear_seal.htm
>> >> It seems to me if I apply RTV here it will play with the clearance
>> >> between the bearing and the cap.
>> >>
>> >> 3.) Also should I plan to appy rtv to the cork gaskets but should I
>> >> appy RTV to the rear oil pan seal when I reinstall?
>> >>
>> >> Oh.... I almost forgot they also state in the manual to apply liquid
>> >> soap to the seal.... What would you folks recommend?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks in advance.
up, I ran out of blue RTV so I went with the black on the seal tabs
and both sides of the pan gaskets I also put some on the outer edge of
the bearing retainer. I was amazed when I lifted the pan in place and
every hole lined up perfectly, I tourqued it to 8 foot pounds 1/2 hour
ago and I will go back around it later and put it to 10 foot pounds. (
no oil will go in this vehicle until tomorrow ....thanks)
On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 14:20:34 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>On the ones I do, I use the soap and oil on the seal and have had good
>luck with them. The tabs or end wings on the seal also have to have RTV
>on both sides of them. The cap needs it out at the edges on the angled
>part
>
>The trick is to get the pan and block super clean. Acetone works well
>or brake cleaner for this. One fingerprint and the buggers will leak.
>
>If using the cork, I use a thin skim of RTV silicone on both sides. I
>think I even did that on my one piece I have in there now. No leaks
>anyway. :-)
>
>looking at your pan, I recommend RTV no matter what gasket. It fills in
>the dents.
>
>Then one big one a lot of folks forget is that RTV takes 24 hours to
>cure. If you put oil in it or start it up before then, it likely will
>leak.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>Jeepster wrote:
>>
>> I did the valve cover last week to rule out the easy fix....now I'm
>> in new territory doing the real seal and oil pan. :)
>>
>> On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:09:59 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >If you follow the directions, you will get it.
>> >
>> >I prefer the one piece pan gasket.
>> >
>> >Then when you have it all back together and it still leaks out on the
>> >ground, go up top and fix the leaky valve cover....
>> >;-)
>> >
>> >Mike
>> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> >Jeepster wrote:
>> >>
>> >> (87 YJ 258)
>> >> I got very tired of oil messing up my driveway and decided to tackle
>> >> the oil pan gasket and half way through that I came to my senses and
>> >> realized while I had the pan off why not do the rear seal.
>> >>
>> >> I have a few questions before I put it back together tomorrow.
>> >>
>> >> 1.) Haynes says to remove the bell housing inspection plate?
>> >>
>> >> I took out all the bolts I could find (including 2 that go thru from
>> >> the rear) and it wouldn't budge. This didn't stop me from getting the
>> >> pan off so I can assume it was an unnessesary step.
>> >>
>> >> 2.) Haynes says to apply RTV to the chamfered edges of the bearing
>> >> retainer.
>> >>
>> >> Looking at this picture .....do I have the right spot?
>> >> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/rear_seal.htm
>> >> It seems to me if I apply RTV here it will play with the clearance
>> >> between the bearing and the cap.
>> >>
>> >> 3.) Also should I plan to appy rtv to the cork gaskets but should I
>> >> appy RTV to the rear oil pan seal when I reinstall?
>> >>
>> >> Oh.... I almost forgot they also state in the manual to apply liquid
>> >> soap to the seal.... What would you folks recommend?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks in advance.
#25
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Posts: n/a
Re: Rear Seal / Oil Pan
I cleaned the pan and the block and used a brass brush to polish it
up, I ran out of blue RTV so I went with the black on the seal tabs
and both sides of the pan gaskets I also put some on the outer edge of
the bearing retainer. I was amazed when I lifted the pan in place and
every hole lined up perfectly, I tourqued it to 8 foot pounds 1/2 hour
ago and I will go back around it later and put it to 10 foot pounds. (
no oil will go in this vehicle until tomorrow ....thanks)
On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 14:20:34 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>On the ones I do, I use the soap and oil on the seal and have had good
>luck with them. The tabs or end wings on the seal also have to have RTV
>on both sides of them. The cap needs it out at the edges on the angled
>part
>
>The trick is to get the pan and block super clean. Acetone works well
>or brake cleaner for this. One fingerprint and the buggers will leak.
>
>If using the cork, I use a thin skim of RTV silicone on both sides. I
>think I even did that on my one piece I have in there now. No leaks
>anyway. :-)
>
>looking at your pan, I recommend RTV no matter what gasket. It fills in
>the dents.
>
>Then one big one a lot of folks forget is that RTV takes 24 hours to
>cure. If you put oil in it or start it up before then, it likely will
>leak.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>Jeepster wrote:
>>
>> I did the valve cover last week to rule out the easy fix....now I'm
>> in new territory doing the real seal and oil pan. :)
>>
>> On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:09:59 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >If you follow the directions, you will get it.
>> >
>> >I prefer the one piece pan gasket.
>> >
>> >Then when you have it all back together and it still leaks out on the
>> >ground, go up top and fix the leaky valve cover....
>> >;-)
>> >
>> >Mike
>> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> >Jeepster wrote:
>> >>
>> >> (87 YJ 258)
>> >> I got very tired of oil messing up my driveway and decided to tackle
>> >> the oil pan gasket and half way through that I came to my senses and
>> >> realized while I had the pan off why not do the rear seal.
>> >>
>> >> I have a few questions before I put it back together tomorrow.
>> >>
>> >> 1.) Haynes says to remove the bell housing inspection plate?
>> >>
>> >> I took out all the bolts I could find (including 2 that go thru from
>> >> the rear) and it wouldn't budge. This didn't stop me from getting the
>> >> pan off so I can assume it was an unnessesary step.
>> >>
>> >> 2.) Haynes says to apply RTV to the chamfered edges of the bearing
>> >> retainer.
>> >>
>> >> Looking at this picture .....do I have the right spot?
>> >> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/rear_seal.htm
>> >> It seems to me if I apply RTV here it will play with the clearance
>> >> between the bearing and the cap.
>> >>
>> >> 3.) Also should I plan to appy rtv to the cork gaskets but should I
>> >> appy RTV to the rear oil pan seal when I reinstall?
>> >>
>> >> Oh.... I almost forgot they also state in the manual to apply liquid
>> >> soap to the seal.... What would you folks recommend?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks in advance.
up, I ran out of blue RTV so I went with the black on the seal tabs
and both sides of the pan gaskets I also put some on the outer edge of
the bearing retainer. I was amazed when I lifted the pan in place and
every hole lined up perfectly, I tourqued it to 8 foot pounds 1/2 hour
ago and I will go back around it later and put it to 10 foot pounds. (
no oil will go in this vehicle until tomorrow ....thanks)
On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 14:20:34 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>On the ones I do, I use the soap and oil on the seal and have had good
>luck with them. The tabs or end wings on the seal also have to have RTV
>on both sides of them. The cap needs it out at the edges on the angled
>part
>
>The trick is to get the pan and block super clean. Acetone works well
>or brake cleaner for this. One fingerprint and the buggers will leak.
>
>If using the cork, I use a thin skim of RTV silicone on both sides. I
>think I even did that on my one piece I have in there now. No leaks
>anyway. :-)
>
>looking at your pan, I recommend RTV no matter what gasket. It fills in
>the dents.
>
>Then one big one a lot of folks forget is that RTV takes 24 hours to
>cure. If you put oil in it or start it up before then, it likely will
>leak.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>Jeepster wrote:
>>
>> I did the valve cover last week to rule out the easy fix....now I'm
>> in new territory doing the real seal and oil pan. :)
>>
>> On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:09:59 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >If you follow the directions, you will get it.
>> >
>> >I prefer the one piece pan gasket.
>> >
>> >Then when you have it all back together and it still leaks out on the
>> >ground, go up top and fix the leaky valve cover....
>> >;-)
>> >
>> >Mike
>> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> >Jeepster wrote:
>> >>
>> >> (87 YJ 258)
>> >> I got very tired of oil messing up my driveway and decided to tackle
>> >> the oil pan gasket and half way through that I came to my senses and
>> >> realized while I had the pan off why not do the rear seal.
>> >>
>> >> I have a few questions before I put it back together tomorrow.
>> >>
>> >> 1.) Haynes says to remove the bell housing inspection plate?
>> >>
>> >> I took out all the bolts I could find (including 2 that go thru from
>> >> the rear) and it wouldn't budge. This didn't stop me from getting the
>> >> pan off so I can assume it was an unnessesary step.
>> >>
>> >> 2.) Haynes says to apply RTV to the chamfered edges of the bearing
>> >> retainer.
>> >>
>> >> Looking at this picture .....do I have the right spot?
>> >> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/rear_seal.htm
>> >> It seems to me if I apply RTV here it will play with the clearance
>> >> between the bearing and the cap.
>> >>
>> >> 3.) Also should I plan to appy rtv to the cork gaskets but should I
>> >> appy RTV to the rear oil pan seal when I reinstall?
>> >>
>> >> Oh.... I almost forgot they also state in the manual to apply liquid
>> >> soap to the seal.... What would you folks recommend?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks in advance.
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Re: Rear Seal / Oil Pan
The inspection plate is a small plate made of sheet metal that is between
the oil pan and the bottom portion of the bell housing. It should have 4
bolts to hold it on. It could be held by two bolts and two well-placed ears,
but I think they used four bolts. The CJs get four bolts, I assume the YJs
get treated the same.
"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:b85dc0dcdof6liq2ofl7v2tb9m2crvt6rm@4ax.com...
> (87 YJ 258)
> I got very tired of oil messing up my driveway and decided to tackle
> the oil pan gasket and half way through that I came to my senses and
> realized while I had the pan off why not do the rear seal.
>
> I have a few questions before I put it back together tomorrow.
>
> 1.) Haynes says to remove the bell housing inspection plate?
>
> I took out all the bolts I could find (including 2 that go thru from
> the rear) and it wouldn't budge. This didn't stop me from getting the
> pan off so I can assume it was an unnessesary step.
>
> 2.) Haynes says to apply RTV to the chamfered edges of the bearing
> retainer.
>
> Looking at this picture .....do I have the right spot?
> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/rear_seal.htm
> It seems to me if I apply RTV here it will play with the clearance
> between the bearing and the cap.
>
>
>
> 3.) Also should I plan to appy rtv to the cork gaskets but should I
> appy RTV to the rear oil pan seal when I reinstall?
>
> Oh.... I almost forgot they also state in the manual to apply liquid
> soap to the seal.... What would you folks recommend?
>
> Thanks in advance.
the oil pan and the bottom portion of the bell housing. It should have 4
bolts to hold it on. It could be held by two bolts and two well-placed ears,
but I think they used four bolts. The CJs get four bolts, I assume the YJs
get treated the same.
"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:b85dc0dcdof6liq2ofl7v2tb9m2crvt6rm@4ax.com...
> (87 YJ 258)
> I got very tired of oil messing up my driveway and decided to tackle
> the oil pan gasket and half way through that I came to my senses and
> realized while I had the pan off why not do the rear seal.
>
> I have a few questions before I put it back together tomorrow.
>
> 1.) Haynes says to remove the bell housing inspection plate?
>
> I took out all the bolts I could find (including 2 that go thru from
> the rear) and it wouldn't budge. This didn't stop me from getting the
> pan off so I can assume it was an unnessesary step.
>
> 2.) Haynes says to apply RTV to the chamfered edges of the bearing
> retainer.
>
> Looking at this picture .....do I have the right spot?
> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/rear_seal.htm
> It seems to me if I apply RTV here it will play with the clearance
> between the bearing and the cap.
>
>
>
> 3.) Also should I plan to appy rtv to the cork gaskets but should I
> appy RTV to the rear oil pan seal when I reinstall?
>
> Oh.... I almost forgot they also state in the manual to apply liquid
> soap to the seal.... What would you folks recommend?
>
> Thanks in advance.
#27
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Re: Rear Seal / Oil Pan
The inspection plate is a small plate made of sheet metal that is between
the oil pan and the bottom portion of the bell housing. It should have 4
bolts to hold it on. It could be held by two bolts and two well-placed ears,
but I think they used four bolts. The CJs get four bolts, I assume the YJs
get treated the same.
"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:b85dc0dcdof6liq2ofl7v2tb9m2crvt6rm@4ax.com...
> (87 YJ 258)
> I got very tired of oil messing up my driveway and decided to tackle
> the oil pan gasket and half way through that I came to my senses and
> realized while I had the pan off why not do the rear seal.
>
> I have a few questions before I put it back together tomorrow.
>
> 1.) Haynes says to remove the bell housing inspection plate?
>
> I took out all the bolts I could find (including 2 that go thru from
> the rear) and it wouldn't budge. This didn't stop me from getting the
> pan off so I can assume it was an unnessesary step.
>
> 2.) Haynes says to apply RTV to the chamfered edges of the bearing
> retainer.
>
> Looking at this picture .....do I have the right spot?
> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/rear_seal.htm
> It seems to me if I apply RTV here it will play with the clearance
> between the bearing and the cap.
>
>
>
> 3.) Also should I plan to appy rtv to the cork gaskets but should I
> appy RTV to the rear oil pan seal when I reinstall?
>
> Oh.... I almost forgot they also state in the manual to apply liquid
> soap to the seal.... What would you folks recommend?
>
> Thanks in advance.
the oil pan and the bottom portion of the bell housing. It should have 4
bolts to hold it on. It could be held by two bolts and two well-placed ears,
but I think they used four bolts. The CJs get four bolts, I assume the YJs
get treated the same.
"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:b85dc0dcdof6liq2ofl7v2tb9m2crvt6rm@4ax.com...
> (87 YJ 258)
> I got very tired of oil messing up my driveway and decided to tackle
> the oil pan gasket and half way through that I came to my senses and
> realized while I had the pan off why not do the rear seal.
>
> I have a few questions before I put it back together tomorrow.
>
> 1.) Haynes says to remove the bell housing inspection plate?
>
> I took out all the bolts I could find (including 2 that go thru from
> the rear) and it wouldn't budge. This didn't stop me from getting the
> pan off so I can assume it was an unnessesary step.
>
> 2.) Haynes says to apply RTV to the chamfered edges of the bearing
> retainer.
>
> Looking at this picture .....do I have the right spot?
> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/rear_seal.htm
> It seems to me if I apply RTV here it will play with the clearance
> between the bearing and the cap.
>
>
>
> 3.) Also should I plan to appy rtv to the cork gaskets but should I
> appy RTV to the rear oil pan seal when I reinstall?
>
> Oh.... I almost forgot they also state in the manual to apply liquid
> soap to the seal.... What would you folks recommend?
>
> Thanks in advance.
#28
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Posts: n/a
Re: Rear Seal / Oil Pan
The inspection plate is a small plate made of sheet metal that is between
the oil pan and the bottom portion of the bell housing. It should have 4
bolts to hold it on. It could be held by two bolts and two well-placed ears,
but I think they used four bolts. The CJs get four bolts, I assume the YJs
get treated the same.
"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:b85dc0dcdof6liq2ofl7v2tb9m2crvt6rm@4ax.com...
> (87 YJ 258)
> I got very tired of oil messing up my driveway and decided to tackle
> the oil pan gasket and half way through that I came to my senses and
> realized while I had the pan off why not do the rear seal.
>
> I have a few questions before I put it back together tomorrow.
>
> 1.) Haynes says to remove the bell housing inspection plate?
>
> I took out all the bolts I could find (including 2 that go thru from
> the rear) and it wouldn't budge. This didn't stop me from getting the
> pan off so I can assume it was an unnessesary step.
>
> 2.) Haynes says to apply RTV to the chamfered edges of the bearing
> retainer.
>
> Looking at this picture .....do I have the right spot?
> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/rear_seal.htm
> It seems to me if I apply RTV here it will play with the clearance
> between the bearing and the cap.
>
>
>
> 3.) Also should I plan to appy rtv to the cork gaskets but should I
> appy RTV to the rear oil pan seal when I reinstall?
>
> Oh.... I almost forgot they also state in the manual to apply liquid
> soap to the seal.... What would you folks recommend?
>
> Thanks in advance.
the oil pan and the bottom portion of the bell housing. It should have 4
bolts to hold it on. It could be held by two bolts and two well-placed ears,
but I think they used four bolts. The CJs get four bolts, I assume the YJs
get treated the same.
"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:b85dc0dcdof6liq2ofl7v2tb9m2crvt6rm@4ax.com...
> (87 YJ 258)
> I got very tired of oil messing up my driveway and decided to tackle
> the oil pan gasket and half way through that I came to my senses and
> realized while I had the pan off why not do the rear seal.
>
> I have a few questions before I put it back together tomorrow.
>
> 1.) Haynes says to remove the bell housing inspection plate?
>
> I took out all the bolts I could find (including 2 that go thru from
> the rear) and it wouldn't budge. This didn't stop me from getting the
> pan off so I can assume it was an unnessesary step.
>
> 2.) Haynes says to apply RTV to the chamfered edges of the bearing
> retainer.
>
> Looking at this picture .....do I have the right spot?
> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/rear_seal.htm
> It seems to me if I apply RTV here it will play with the clearance
> between the bearing and the cap.
>
>
>
> 3.) Also should I plan to appy rtv to the cork gaskets but should I
> appy RTV to the rear oil pan seal when I reinstall?
>
> Oh.... I almost forgot they also state in the manual to apply liquid
> soap to the seal.... What would you folks recommend?
>
> Thanks in advance.
#29
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Posts: n/a
Re: Rear Seal / Oil Pan
The inspection plate is a small plate made of sheet metal that is between
the oil pan and the bottom portion of the bell housing. It should have 4
bolts to hold it on. It could be held by two bolts and two well-placed ears,
but I think they used four bolts. The CJs get four bolts, I assume the YJs
get treated the same.
"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:b85dc0dcdof6liq2ofl7v2tb9m2crvt6rm@4ax.com...
> (87 YJ 258)
> I got very tired of oil messing up my driveway and decided to tackle
> the oil pan gasket and half way through that I came to my senses and
> realized while I had the pan off why not do the rear seal.
>
> I have a few questions before I put it back together tomorrow.
>
> 1.) Haynes says to remove the bell housing inspection plate?
>
> I took out all the bolts I could find (including 2 that go thru from
> the rear) and it wouldn't budge. This didn't stop me from getting the
> pan off so I can assume it was an unnessesary step.
>
> 2.) Haynes says to apply RTV to the chamfered edges of the bearing
> retainer.
>
> Looking at this picture .....do I have the right spot?
> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/rear_seal.htm
> It seems to me if I apply RTV here it will play with the clearance
> between the bearing and the cap.
>
>
>
> 3.) Also should I plan to appy rtv to the cork gaskets but should I
> appy RTV to the rear oil pan seal when I reinstall?
>
> Oh.... I almost forgot they also state in the manual to apply liquid
> soap to the seal.... What would you folks recommend?
>
> Thanks in advance.
the oil pan and the bottom portion of the bell housing. It should have 4
bolts to hold it on. It could be held by two bolts and two well-placed ears,
but I think they used four bolts. The CJs get four bolts, I assume the YJs
get treated the same.
"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:b85dc0dcdof6liq2ofl7v2tb9m2crvt6rm@4ax.com...
> (87 YJ 258)
> I got very tired of oil messing up my driveway and decided to tackle
> the oil pan gasket and half way through that I came to my senses and
> realized while I had the pan off why not do the rear seal.
>
> I have a few questions before I put it back together tomorrow.
>
> 1.) Haynes says to remove the bell housing inspection plate?
>
> I took out all the bolts I could find (including 2 that go thru from
> the rear) and it wouldn't budge. This didn't stop me from getting the
> pan off so I can assume it was an unnessesary step.
>
> 2.) Haynes says to apply RTV to the chamfered edges of the bearing
> retainer.
>
> Looking at this picture .....do I have the right spot?
> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/rear_seal.htm
> It seems to me if I apply RTV here it will play with the clearance
> between the bearing and the cap.
>
>
>
> 3.) Also should I plan to appy rtv to the cork gaskets but should I
> appy RTV to the rear oil pan seal when I reinstall?
>
> Oh.... I almost forgot they also state in the manual to apply liquid
> soap to the seal.... What would you folks recommend?
>
> Thanks in advance.
#30
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Posts: n/a
Re: Rear Seal / Oil Pan
I'm sure the brass brush worked well to polish it up, but Mike's right, oily
finger prints will ruin all your hard work. I spray the pan, block, and
main cap with brake cleaner and wipe/blow it off really well. Then don't
touch it again. Your RTV will not stick or seal if it's not clean and
dry. If you follow this simple part any one of the gasket types willl work
fine.
Steve G.
"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:rg7fc050tib7ts5k06mm6it7p5r5he3gj4@4ax.com...
> I cleaned the pan and the block and used a brass brush to polish it
> up, I ran out of blue RTV so I went with the black on the seal tabs
> and both sides of the pan gaskets I also put some on the outer edge of
> the bearing retainer. I was amazed when I lifted the pan in place and
> every hole lined up perfectly, I tourqued it to 8 foot pounds 1/2 hour
> ago and I will go back around it later and put it to 10 foot pounds. (
> no oil will go in this vehicle until tomorrow ....thanks)
>
> On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 14:20:34 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >On the ones I do, I use the soap and oil on the seal and have had good
> >luck with them. The tabs or end wings on the seal also have to have RTV
> >on both sides of them. The cap needs it out at the edges on the angled
> >part
> >
> >The trick is to get the pan and block super clean. Acetone works well
> >or brake cleaner for this. One fingerprint and the buggers will leak.
> >
> >If using the cork, I use a thin skim of RTV silicone on both sides. I
> >think I even did that on my one piece I have in there now. No leaks
> >anyway. :-)
> >
> >looking at your pan, I recommend RTV no matter what gasket. It fills in
> >the dents.
> >
> >Then one big one a lot of folks forget is that RTV takes 24 hours to
> >cure. If you put oil in it or start it up before then, it likely will
> >leak.
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >Jeepster wrote:
> >>
> >> I did the valve cover last week to rule out the easy fix....now I'm
> >> in new territory doing the real seal and oil pan. :)
> >>
> >> On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:09:59 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >If you follow the directions, you will get it.
> >> >
> >> >I prefer the one piece pan gasket.
> >> >
> >> >Then when you have it all back together and it still leaks out on the
> >> >ground, go up top and fix the leaky valve cover....
> >> >;-)
> >> >
> >> >Mike
> >> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> >Jeepster wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> (87 YJ 258)
> >> >> I got very tired of oil messing up my driveway and decided to tackle
> >> >> the oil pan gasket and half way through that I came to my senses and
> >> >> realized while I had the pan off why not do the rear seal.
> >> >>
> >> >> I have a few questions before I put it back together tomorrow.
> >> >>
> >> >> 1.) Haynes says to remove the bell housing inspection plate?
> >> >>
> >> >> I took out all the bolts I could find (including 2 that go thru from
> >> >> the rear) and it wouldn't budge. This didn't stop me from getting
the
> >> >> pan off so I can assume it was an unnessesary step.
> >> >>
> >> >> 2.) Haynes says to apply RTV to the chamfered edges of the bearing
> >> >> retainer.
> >> >>
> >> >> Looking at this picture .....do I have the right spot?
> >> >> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/rear_seal.htm
> >> >> It seems to me if I apply RTV here it will play with the clearance
> >> >> between the bearing and the cap.
> >> >>
> >> >> 3.) Also should I plan to appy rtv to the cork gaskets but should I
> >> >> appy RTV to the rear oil pan seal when I reinstall?
> >> >>
> >> >> Oh.... I almost forgot they also state in the manual to apply liquid
> >> >> soap to the seal.... What would you folks recommend?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks in advance.
>
finger prints will ruin all your hard work. I spray the pan, block, and
main cap with brake cleaner and wipe/blow it off really well. Then don't
touch it again. Your RTV will not stick or seal if it's not clean and
dry. If you follow this simple part any one of the gasket types willl work
fine.
Steve G.
"Jeepster" <yj_driver@NOSPAM___.com> wrote in message
news:rg7fc050tib7ts5k06mm6it7p5r5he3gj4@4ax.com...
> I cleaned the pan and the block and used a brass brush to polish it
> up, I ran out of blue RTV so I went with the black on the seal tabs
> and both sides of the pan gaskets I also put some on the outer edge of
> the bearing retainer. I was amazed when I lifted the pan in place and
> every hole lined up perfectly, I tourqued it to 8 foot pounds 1/2 hour
> ago and I will go back around it later and put it to 10 foot pounds. (
> no oil will go in this vehicle until tomorrow ....thanks)
>
> On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 14:20:34 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >On the ones I do, I use the soap and oil on the seal and have had good
> >luck with them. The tabs or end wings on the seal also have to have RTV
> >on both sides of them. The cap needs it out at the edges on the angled
> >part
> >
> >The trick is to get the pan and block super clean. Acetone works well
> >or brake cleaner for this. One fingerprint and the buggers will leak.
> >
> >If using the cork, I use a thin skim of RTV silicone on both sides. I
> >think I even did that on my one piece I have in there now. No leaks
> >anyway. :-)
> >
> >looking at your pan, I recommend RTV no matter what gasket. It fills in
> >the dents.
> >
> >Then one big one a lot of folks forget is that RTV takes 24 hours to
> >cure. If you put oil in it or start it up before then, it likely will
> >leak.
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >Jeepster wrote:
> >>
> >> I did the valve cover last week to rule out the easy fix....now I'm
> >> in new territory doing the real seal and oil pan. :)
> >>
> >> On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:09:59 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >If you follow the directions, you will get it.
> >> >
> >> >I prefer the one piece pan gasket.
> >> >
> >> >Then when you have it all back together and it still leaks out on the
> >> >ground, go up top and fix the leaky valve cover....
> >> >;-)
> >> >
> >> >Mike
> >> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> >Jeepster wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> (87 YJ 258)
> >> >> I got very tired of oil messing up my driveway and decided to tackle
> >> >> the oil pan gasket and half way through that I came to my senses and
> >> >> realized while I had the pan off why not do the rear seal.
> >> >>
> >> >> I have a few questions before I put it back together tomorrow.
> >> >>
> >> >> 1.) Haynes says to remove the bell housing inspection plate?
> >> >>
> >> >> I took out all the bolts I could find (including 2 that go thru from
> >> >> the rear) and it wouldn't budge. This didn't stop me from getting
the
> >> >> pan off so I can assume it was an unnessesary step.
> >> >>
> >> >> 2.) Haynes says to apply RTV to the chamfered edges of the bearing
> >> >> retainer.
> >> >>
> >> >> Looking at this picture .....do I have the right spot?
> >> >> http://clubweb.interbaun.com/kb57/rear_seal.htm
> >> >> It seems to me if I apply RTV here it will play with the clearance
> >> >> between the bearing and the cap.
> >> >>
> >> >> 3.) Also should I plan to appy rtv to the cork gaskets but should I
> >> >> appy RTV to the rear oil pan seal when I reinstall?
> >> >>
> >> >> Oh.... I almost forgot they also state in the manual to apply liquid
> >> >> soap to the seal.... What would you folks recommend?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks in advance.
>