Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
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Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:Hbgbc.861$Qe5.11878583@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > Hmm, that post wasn't well considered really. Sorry if it caused
offence.
> > I do think that calling cars after tribes is rather silly. I mean, would
> you
> > buy
> > a TJ Scot ?
> >
> > Dave
> >
>
> Well no, because it would be drunk all the time. Sheesh, how obvious is
> that?
no comment, you caught me with a 16 year old Lagavulin in my hand ...
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
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>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:Hbgbc.861$Qe5.11878583@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > Hmm, that post wasn't well considered really. Sorry if it caused
offence.
> > I do think that calling cars after tribes is rather silly. I mean, would
> you
> > buy
> > a TJ Scot ?
> >
> > Dave
> >
>
> Well no, because it would be drunk all the time. Sheesh, how obvious is
> that?
no comment, you caught me with a 16 year old Lagavulin in my hand ...
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
#82
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Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
Sorry, just had to share this with you:
A white house official has just announced that fingerprinting us when we
visit is " In keeping with the welcoming nature of America " Made me
laugh - I guess that was true up till 1780 !
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:GMgbc.4353$O%5.3358@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> No offense, Dave. I'm not American Indian, although I find what
> extremely little I know of them fascinating. Actually, I think using
> tribal names for certain things should be fine, even in this day of
> political correct behavior.
>
> On a related note:
>
> Here in the states the YMCA has a program that used to be called Indian
> Guides and Indian Princesses. During the 3 year period that my daughter
> and I were in the Indian Princesses, the YMCA, under pressure was forced
> to drop the name and they are now called Y Princesses. Idiotic, really.
> I mean why would you want your race associated with a wholesome program
> like that?
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>
> > Hmm, that post wasn't well considered really. Sorry if it caused
offence.
> > I do think that calling cars after tribes is rather silly. I mean, would
you
> > buy
> > a TJ Scot ?
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > news:LCdbc.4289$O%5.2488@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> >
> >>Dave Milne wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>What heritage ? The scrambler was just a longer pickup bed CJ. So
what's
> >>>wrong with
> >>>TJ Scramblers, XJ Scramblers (except they called it the Comanche) ?
> >>>
> >>>Frankly, its a lot better name than the "Cherokee", named after a
people
> >>>that genocide was attempted on.. probably why DC kept it...
> >>
> >>I think most people remember the Cherokee people for much more than
> >>that. Besides, it wasn't their fault. Maybe Jeep should pay them for
> >>using the name all these years.
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
A white house official has just announced that fingerprinting us when we
visit is " In keeping with the welcoming nature of America " Made me
laugh - I guess that was true up till 1780 !
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:GMgbc.4353$O%5.3358@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> No offense, Dave. I'm not American Indian, although I find what
> extremely little I know of them fascinating. Actually, I think using
> tribal names for certain things should be fine, even in this day of
> political correct behavior.
>
> On a related note:
>
> Here in the states the YMCA has a program that used to be called Indian
> Guides and Indian Princesses. During the 3 year period that my daughter
> and I were in the Indian Princesses, the YMCA, under pressure was forced
> to drop the name and they are now called Y Princesses. Idiotic, really.
> I mean why would you want your race associated with a wholesome program
> like that?
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>
> > Hmm, that post wasn't well considered really. Sorry if it caused
offence.
> > I do think that calling cars after tribes is rather silly. I mean, would
you
> > buy
> > a TJ Scot ?
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > news:LCdbc.4289$O%5.2488@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> >
> >>Dave Milne wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>What heritage ? The scrambler was just a longer pickup bed CJ. So
what's
> >>>wrong with
> >>>TJ Scramblers, XJ Scramblers (except they called it the Comanche) ?
> >>>
> >>>Frankly, its a lot better name than the "Cherokee", named after a
people
> >>>that genocide was attempted on.. probably why DC kept it...
> >>
> >>I think most people remember the Cherokee people for much more than
> >>that. Besides, it wasn't their fault. Maybe Jeep should pay them for
> >>using the name all these years.
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
#83
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Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
Sorry, just had to share this with you:
A white house official has just announced that fingerprinting us when we
visit is " In keeping with the welcoming nature of America " Made me
laugh - I guess that was true up till 1780 !
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:GMgbc.4353$O%5.3358@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> No offense, Dave. I'm not American Indian, although I find what
> extremely little I know of them fascinating. Actually, I think using
> tribal names for certain things should be fine, even in this day of
> political correct behavior.
>
> On a related note:
>
> Here in the states the YMCA has a program that used to be called Indian
> Guides and Indian Princesses. During the 3 year period that my daughter
> and I were in the Indian Princesses, the YMCA, under pressure was forced
> to drop the name and they are now called Y Princesses. Idiotic, really.
> I mean why would you want your race associated with a wholesome program
> like that?
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>
> > Hmm, that post wasn't well considered really. Sorry if it caused
offence.
> > I do think that calling cars after tribes is rather silly. I mean, would
you
> > buy
> > a TJ Scot ?
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > news:LCdbc.4289$O%5.2488@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> >
> >>Dave Milne wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>What heritage ? The scrambler was just a longer pickup bed CJ. So
what's
> >>>wrong with
> >>>TJ Scramblers, XJ Scramblers (except they called it the Comanche) ?
> >>>
> >>>Frankly, its a lot better name than the "Cherokee", named after a
people
> >>>that genocide was attempted on.. probably why DC kept it...
> >>
> >>I think most people remember the Cherokee people for much more than
> >>that. Besides, it wasn't their fault. Maybe Jeep should pay them for
> >>using the name all these years.
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
A white house official has just announced that fingerprinting us when we
visit is " In keeping with the welcoming nature of America " Made me
laugh - I guess that was true up till 1780 !
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:GMgbc.4353$O%5.3358@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> No offense, Dave. I'm not American Indian, although I find what
> extremely little I know of them fascinating. Actually, I think using
> tribal names for certain things should be fine, even in this day of
> political correct behavior.
>
> On a related note:
>
> Here in the states the YMCA has a program that used to be called Indian
> Guides and Indian Princesses. During the 3 year period that my daughter
> and I were in the Indian Princesses, the YMCA, under pressure was forced
> to drop the name and they are now called Y Princesses. Idiotic, really.
> I mean why would you want your race associated with a wholesome program
> like that?
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>
> > Hmm, that post wasn't well considered really. Sorry if it caused
offence.
> > I do think that calling cars after tribes is rather silly. I mean, would
you
> > buy
> > a TJ Scot ?
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > news:LCdbc.4289$O%5.2488@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> >
> >>Dave Milne wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>What heritage ? The scrambler was just a longer pickup bed CJ. So
what's
> >>>wrong with
> >>>TJ Scramblers, XJ Scramblers (except they called it the Comanche) ?
> >>>
> >>>Frankly, its a lot better name than the "Cherokee", named after a
people
> >>>that genocide was attempted on.. probably why DC kept it...
> >>
> >>I think most people remember the Cherokee people for much more than
> >>that. Besides, it wasn't their fault. Maybe Jeep should pay them for
> >>using the name all these years.
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
#84
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Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
Sorry, just had to share this with you:
A white house official has just announced that fingerprinting us when we
visit is " In keeping with the welcoming nature of America " Made me
laugh - I guess that was true up till 1780 !
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:GMgbc.4353$O%5.3358@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> No offense, Dave. I'm not American Indian, although I find what
> extremely little I know of them fascinating. Actually, I think using
> tribal names for certain things should be fine, even in this day of
> political correct behavior.
>
> On a related note:
>
> Here in the states the YMCA has a program that used to be called Indian
> Guides and Indian Princesses. During the 3 year period that my daughter
> and I were in the Indian Princesses, the YMCA, under pressure was forced
> to drop the name and they are now called Y Princesses. Idiotic, really.
> I mean why would you want your race associated with a wholesome program
> like that?
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>
> > Hmm, that post wasn't well considered really. Sorry if it caused
offence.
> > I do think that calling cars after tribes is rather silly. I mean, would
you
> > buy
> > a TJ Scot ?
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > news:LCdbc.4289$O%5.2488@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> >
> >>Dave Milne wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>What heritage ? The scrambler was just a longer pickup bed CJ. So
what's
> >>>wrong with
> >>>TJ Scramblers, XJ Scramblers (except they called it the Comanche) ?
> >>>
> >>>Frankly, its a lot better name than the "Cherokee", named after a
people
> >>>that genocide was attempted on.. probably why DC kept it...
> >>
> >>I think most people remember the Cherokee people for much more than
> >>that. Besides, it wasn't their fault. Maybe Jeep should pay them for
> >>using the name all these years.
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
A white house official has just announced that fingerprinting us when we
visit is " In keeping with the welcoming nature of America " Made me
laugh - I guess that was true up till 1780 !
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:GMgbc.4353$O%5.3358@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> No offense, Dave. I'm not American Indian, although I find what
> extremely little I know of them fascinating. Actually, I think using
> tribal names for certain things should be fine, even in this day of
> political correct behavior.
>
> On a related note:
>
> Here in the states the YMCA has a program that used to be called Indian
> Guides and Indian Princesses. During the 3 year period that my daughter
> and I were in the Indian Princesses, the YMCA, under pressure was forced
> to drop the name and they are now called Y Princesses. Idiotic, really.
> I mean why would you want your race associated with a wholesome program
> like that?
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>
> > Hmm, that post wasn't well considered really. Sorry if it caused
offence.
> > I do think that calling cars after tribes is rather silly. I mean, would
you
> > buy
> > a TJ Scot ?
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > news:LCdbc.4289$O%5.2488@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> >
> >>Dave Milne wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>What heritage ? The scrambler was just a longer pickup bed CJ. So
what's
> >>>wrong with
> >>>TJ Scramblers, XJ Scramblers (except they called it the Comanche) ?
> >>>
> >>>Frankly, its a lot better name than the "Cherokee", named after a
people
> >>>that genocide was attempted on.. probably why DC kept it...
> >>
> >>I think most people remember the Cherokee people for much more than
> >>that. Besides, it wasn't their fault. Maybe Jeep should pay them for
> >>using the name all these years.
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
#85
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
Sorry, just had to share this with you:
A white house official has just announced that fingerprinting us when we
visit is " In keeping with the welcoming nature of America " Made me
laugh - I guess that was true up till 1780 !
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:GMgbc.4353$O%5.3358@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> No offense, Dave. I'm not American Indian, although I find what
> extremely little I know of them fascinating. Actually, I think using
> tribal names for certain things should be fine, even in this day of
> political correct behavior.
>
> On a related note:
>
> Here in the states the YMCA has a program that used to be called Indian
> Guides and Indian Princesses. During the 3 year period that my daughter
> and I were in the Indian Princesses, the YMCA, under pressure was forced
> to drop the name and they are now called Y Princesses. Idiotic, really.
> I mean why would you want your race associated with a wholesome program
> like that?
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>
> > Hmm, that post wasn't well considered really. Sorry if it caused
offence.
> > I do think that calling cars after tribes is rather silly. I mean, would
you
> > buy
> > a TJ Scot ?
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > news:LCdbc.4289$O%5.2488@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> >
> >>Dave Milne wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>What heritage ? The scrambler was just a longer pickup bed CJ. So
what's
> >>>wrong with
> >>>TJ Scramblers, XJ Scramblers (except they called it the Comanche) ?
> >>>
> >>>Frankly, its a lot better name than the "Cherokee", named after a
people
> >>>that genocide was attempted on.. probably why DC kept it...
> >>
> >>I think most people remember the Cherokee people for much more than
> >>that. Besides, it wasn't their fault. Maybe Jeep should pay them for
> >>using the name all these years.
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
A white house official has just announced that fingerprinting us when we
visit is " In keeping with the welcoming nature of America " Made me
laugh - I guess that was true up till 1780 !
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:GMgbc.4353$O%5.3358@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> No offense, Dave. I'm not American Indian, although I find what
> extremely little I know of them fascinating. Actually, I think using
> tribal names for certain things should be fine, even in this day of
> political correct behavior.
>
> On a related note:
>
> Here in the states the YMCA has a program that used to be called Indian
> Guides and Indian Princesses. During the 3 year period that my daughter
> and I were in the Indian Princesses, the YMCA, under pressure was forced
> to drop the name and they are now called Y Princesses. Idiotic, really.
> I mean why would you want your race associated with a wholesome program
> like that?
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>
> > Hmm, that post wasn't well considered really. Sorry if it caused
offence.
> > I do think that calling cars after tribes is rather silly. I mean, would
you
> > buy
> > a TJ Scot ?
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > news:LCdbc.4289$O%5.2488@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> >
> >>Dave Milne wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>What heritage ? The scrambler was just a longer pickup bed CJ. So
what's
> >>>wrong with
> >>>TJ Scramblers, XJ Scramblers (except they called it the Comanche) ?
> >>>
> >>>Frankly, its a lot better name than the "Cherokee", named after a
people
> >>>that genocide was attempted on.. probably why DC kept it...
> >>
> >>I think most people remember the Cherokee people for much more than
> >>that. Besides, it wasn't their fault. Maybe Jeep should pay them for
> >>using the name all these years.
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
#86
Guest
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Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
> Now that I can understand - people called after people. Cars called after
people makes less sense to me. I'm probably one of the most politically
incorrect people you will ever meet btw :-)
Of course you are, you're Scottish, just like me!
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:106rdjmto9rva19@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > news:GMgbc.4353$O%5.3358@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> > > No offense, Dave. I'm not American Indian, although I find what
> > > extremely little I know of them fascinating. Actually, I think using
> > > tribal names for certain things should be fine, even in this day of
> > > political correct behavior.
> > >
> > > On a related note:
> > >
> > > Here in the states the YMCA has a program that used to be called
Indian
> > > Guides and Indian Princesses. During the 3 year period that my
daughter
> > > and I were in the Indian Princesses, the YMCA, under pressure was
forced
> > > to drop the name and they are now called Y Princesses. Idiotic,
really.
> > > I mean why would you want your race associated with a wholesome
program
> > > like that?
> > >
> >
> > I'm with you on that one. I think Indian Guides is a great name for a
> kid's
> > group. It honors Indians as explorers and innovators that spend a life
> time
> > making stuff from essentially nothing at all. "Nothing", of course, is
> from
> > the perspective of protected lives that have a universe that revolves
> around
> > the suburbs where everything has to come from a box. Indian Guides
teaches
> > kids that stuff comes from outside the box, or from where there are no
> > boxes.
> >
> > I think we should have school mascots named Warriors and Aztecs as well.
> > These are proud people with a strong heritage. It should be an honor
that
> a
> > school would want to emulate a warrior. It should not be considered a
> "dis"
> > to have your ancestors associated with school sports. On second thought,
> if
> > it is a dis then maybe we don't want to associate our kids with your
> > ancestors anyway, in which case we don't need to be using your name and
> > image as a mascot.
> >
> > Now I am all screwed up. I don't know if I am offended that we use the
> > mascot in an inapporpriate way, or that we use the mascot for all these
> > years. If we use it all these years as a sign of strength, and it turns
> out
> > that it upsets weaklings and crybabies, then we have used it
> > inappropriately. Crap.
> >
> >
>
>
people makes less sense to me. I'm probably one of the most politically
incorrect people you will ever meet btw :-)
Of course you are, you're Scottish, just like me!
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:106rdjmto9rva19@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > news:GMgbc.4353$O%5.3358@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> > > No offense, Dave. I'm not American Indian, although I find what
> > > extremely little I know of them fascinating. Actually, I think using
> > > tribal names for certain things should be fine, even in this day of
> > > political correct behavior.
> > >
> > > On a related note:
> > >
> > > Here in the states the YMCA has a program that used to be called
Indian
> > > Guides and Indian Princesses. During the 3 year period that my
daughter
> > > and I were in the Indian Princesses, the YMCA, under pressure was
forced
> > > to drop the name and they are now called Y Princesses. Idiotic,
really.
> > > I mean why would you want your race associated with a wholesome
program
> > > like that?
> > >
> >
> > I'm with you on that one. I think Indian Guides is a great name for a
> kid's
> > group. It honors Indians as explorers and innovators that spend a life
> time
> > making stuff from essentially nothing at all. "Nothing", of course, is
> from
> > the perspective of protected lives that have a universe that revolves
> around
> > the suburbs where everything has to come from a box. Indian Guides
teaches
> > kids that stuff comes from outside the box, or from where there are no
> > boxes.
> >
> > I think we should have school mascots named Warriors and Aztecs as well.
> > These are proud people with a strong heritage. It should be an honor
that
> a
> > school would want to emulate a warrior. It should not be considered a
> "dis"
> > to have your ancestors associated with school sports. On second thought,
> if
> > it is a dis then maybe we don't want to associate our kids with your
> > ancestors anyway, in which case we don't need to be using your name and
> > image as a mascot.
> >
> > Now I am all screwed up. I don't know if I am offended that we use the
> > mascot in an inapporpriate way, or that we use the mascot for all these
> > years. If we use it all these years as a sign of strength, and it turns
> out
> > that it upsets weaklings and crybabies, then we have used it
> > inappropriately. Crap.
> >
> >
>
>
#87
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
> Now that I can understand - people called after people. Cars called after
people makes less sense to me. I'm probably one of the most politically
incorrect people you will ever meet btw :-)
Of course you are, you're Scottish, just like me!
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:106rdjmto9rva19@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > news:GMgbc.4353$O%5.3358@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> > > No offense, Dave. I'm not American Indian, although I find what
> > > extremely little I know of them fascinating. Actually, I think using
> > > tribal names for certain things should be fine, even in this day of
> > > political correct behavior.
> > >
> > > On a related note:
> > >
> > > Here in the states the YMCA has a program that used to be called
Indian
> > > Guides and Indian Princesses. During the 3 year period that my
daughter
> > > and I were in the Indian Princesses, the YMCA, under pressure was
forced
> > > to drop the name and they are now called Y Princesses. Idiotic,
really.
> > > I mean why would you want your race associated with a wholesome
program
> > > like that?
> > >
> >
> > I'm with you on that one. I think Indian Guides is a great name for a
> kid's
> > group. It honors Indians as explorers and innovators that spend a life
> time
> > making stuff from essentially nothing at all. "Nothing", of course, is
> from
> > the perspective of protected lives that have a universe that revolves
> around
> > the suburbs where everything has to come from a box. Indian Guides
teaches
> > kids that stuff comes from outside the box, or from where there are no
> > boxes.
> >
> > I think we should have school mascots named Warriors and Aztecs as well.
> > These are proud people with a strong heritage. It should be an honor
that
> a
> > school would want to emulate a warrior. It should not be considered a
> "dis"
> > to have your ancestors associated with school sports. On second thought,
> if
> > it is a dis then maybe we don't want to associate our kids with your
> > ancestors anyway, in which case we don't need to be using your name and
> > image as a mascot.
> >
> > Now I am all screwed up. I don't know if I am offended that we use the
> > mascot in an inapporpriate way, or that we use the mascot for all these
> > years. If we use it all these years as a sign of strength, and it turns
> out
> > that it upsets weaklings and crybabies, then we have used it
> > inappropriately. Crap.
> >
> >
>
>
people makes less sense to me. I'm probably one of the most politically
incorrect people you will ever meet btw :-)
Of course you are, you're Scottish, just like me!
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:106rdjmto9rva19@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > news:GMgbc.4353$O%5.3358@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> > > No offense, Dave. I'm not American Indian, although I find what
> > > extremely little I know of them fascinating. Actually, I think using
> > > tribal names for certain things should be fine, even in this day of
> > > political correct behavior.
> > >
> > > On a related note:
> > >
> > > Here in the states the YMCA has a program that used to be called
Indian
> > > Guides and Indian Princesses. During the 3 year period that my
daughter
> > > and I were in the Indian Princesses, the YMCA, under pressure was
forced
> > > to drop the name and they are now called Y Princesses. Idiotic,
really.
> > > I mean why would you want your race associated with a wholesome
program
> > > like that?
> > >
> >
> > I'm with you on that one. I think Indian Guides is a great name for a
> kid's
> > group. It honors Indians as explorers and innovators that spend a life
> time
> > making stuff from essentially nothing at all. "Nothing", of course, is
> from
> > the perspective of protected lives that have a universe that revolves
> around
> > the suburbs where everything has to come from a box. Indian Guides
teaches
> > kids that stuff comes from outside the box, or from where there are no
> > boxes.
> >
> > I think we should have school mascots named Warriors and Aztecs as well.
> > These are proud people with a strong heritage. It should be an honor
that
> a
> > school would want to emulate a warrior. It should not be considered a
> "dis"
> > to have your ancestors associated with school sports. On second thought,
> if
> > it is a dis then maybe we don't want to associate our kids with your
> > ancestors anyway, in which case we don't need to be using your name and
> > image as a mascot.
> >
> > Now I am all screwed up. I don't know if I am offended that we use the
> > mascot in an inapporpriate way, or that we use the mascot for all these
> > years. If we use it all these years as a sign of strength, and it turns
> out
> > that it upsets weaklings and crybabies, then we have used it
> > inappropriately. Crap.
> >
> >
>
>
#88
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
> Now that I can understand - people called after people. Cars called after
people makes less sense to me. I'm probably one of the most politically
incorrect people you will ever meet btw :-)
Of course you are, you're Scottish, just like me!
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:106rdjmto9rva19@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > news:GMgbc.4353$O%5.3358@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> > > No offense, Dave. I'm not American Indian, although I find what
> > > extremely little I know of them fascinating. Actually, I think using
> > > tribal names for certain things should be fine, even in this day of
> > > political correct behavior.
> > >
> > > On a related note:
> > >
> > > Here in the states the YMCA has a program that used to be called
Indian
> > > Guides and Indian Princesses. During the 3 year period that my
daughter
> > > and I were in the Indian Princesses, the YMCA, under pressure was
forced
> > > to drop the name and they are now called Y Princesses. Idiotic,
really.
> > > I mean why would you want your race associated with a wholesome
program
> > > like that?
> > >
> >
> > I'm with you on that one. I think Indian Guides is a great name for a
> kid's
> > group. It honors Indians as explorers and innovators that spend a life
> time
> > making stuff from essentially nothing at all. "Nothing", of course, is
> from
> > the perspective of protected lives that have a universe that revolves
> around
> > the suburbs where everything has to come from a box. Indian Guides
teaches
> > kids that stuff comes from outside the box, or from where there are no
> > boxes.
> >
> > I think we should have school mascots named Warriors and Aztecs as well.
> > These are proud people with a strong heritage. It should be an honor
that
> a
> > school would want to emulate a warrior. It should not be considered a
> "dis"
> > to have your ancestors associated with school sports. On second thought,
> if
> > it is a dis then maybe we don't want to associate our kids with your
> > ancestors anyway, in which case we don't need to be using your name and
> > image as a mascot.
> >
> > Now I am all screwed up. I don't know if I am offended that we use the
> > mascot in an inapporpriate way, or that we use the mascot for all these
> > years. If we use it all these years as a sign of strength, and it turns
> out
> > that it upsets weaklings and crybabies, then we have used it
> > inappropriately. Crap.
> >
> >
>
>
people makes less sense to me. I'm probably one of the most politically
incorrect people you will ever meet btw :-)
Of course you are, you're Scottish, just like me!
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:106rdjmto9rva19@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > news:GMgbc.4353$O%5.3358@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> > > No offense, Dave. I'm not American Indian, although I find what
> > > extremely little I know of them fascinating. Actually, I think using
> > > tribal names for certain things should be fine, even in this day of
> > > political correct behavior.
> > >
> > > On a related note:
> > >
> > > Here in the states the YMCA has a program that used to be called
Indian
> > > Guides and Indian Princesses. During the 3 year period that my
daughter
> > > and I were in the Indian Princesses, the YMCA, under pressure was
forced
> > > to drop the name and they are now called Y Princesses. Idiotic,
really.
> > > I mean why would you want your race associated with a wholesome
program
> > > like that?
> > >
> >
> > I'm with you on that one. I think Indian Guides is a great name for a
> kid's
> > group. It honors Indians as explorers and innovators that spend a life
> time
> > making stuff from essentially nothing at all. "Nothing", of course, is
> from
> > the perspective of protected lives that have a universe that revolves
> around
> > the suburbs where everything has to come from a box. Indian Guides
teaches
> > kids that stuff comes from outside the box, or from where there are no
> > boxes.
> >
> > I think we should have school mascots named Warriors and Aztecs as well.
> > These are proud people with a strong heritage. It should be an honor
that
> a
> > school would want to emulate a warrior. It should not be considered a
> "dis"
> > to have your ancestors associated with school sports. On second thought,
> if
> > it is a dis then maybe we don't want to associate our kids with your
> > ancestors anyway, in which case we don't need to be using your name and
> > image as a mascot.
> >
> > Now I am all screwed up. I don't know if I am offended that we use the
> > mascot in an inapporpriate way, or that we use the mascot for all these
> > years. If we use it all these years as a sign of strength, and it turns
> out
> > that it upsets weaklings and crybabies, then we have used it
> > inappropriately. Crap.
> >
> >
>
>
#89
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
> Now that I can understand - people called after people. Cars called after
people makes less sense to me. I'm probably one of the most politically
incorrect people you will ever meet btw :-)
Of course you are, you're Scottish, just like me!
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:106rdjmto9rva19@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > news:GMgbc.4353$O%5.3358@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> > > No offense, Dave. I'm not American Indian, although I find what
> > > extremely little I know of them fascinating. Actually, I think using
> > > tribal names for certain things should be fine, even in this day of
> > > political correct behavior.
> > >
> > > On a related note:
> > >
> > > Here in the states the YMCA has a program that used to be called
Indian
> > > Guides and Indian Princesses. During the 3 year period that my
daughter
> > > and I were in the Indian Princesses, the YMCA, under pressure was
forced
> > > to drop the name and they are now called Y Princesses. Idiotic,
really.
> > > I mean why would you want your race associated with a wholesome
program
> > > like that?
> > >
> >
> > I'm with you on that one. I think Indian Guides is a great name for a
> kid's
> > group. It honors Indians as explorers and innovators that spend a life
> time
> > making stuff from essentially nothing at all. "Nothing", of course, is
> from
> > the perspective of protected lives that have a universe that revolves
> around
> > the suburbs where everything has to come from a box. Indian Guides
teaches
> > kids that stuff comes from outside the box, or from where there are no
> > boxes.
> >
> > I think we should have school mascots named Warriors and Aztecs as well.
> > These are proud people with a strong heritage. It should be an honor
that
> a
> > school would want to emulate a warrior. It should not be considered a
> "dis"
> > to have your ancestors associated with school sports. On second thought,
> if
> > it is a dis then maybe we don't want to associate our kids with your
> > ancestors anyway, in which case we don't need to be using your name and
> > image as a mascot.
> >
> > Now I am all screwed up. I don't know if I am offended that we use the
> > mascot in an inapporpriate way, or that we use the mascot for all these
> > years. If we use it all these years as a sign of strength, and it turns
> out
> > that it upsets weaklings and crybabies, then we have used it
> > inappropriately. Crap.
> >
> >
>
>
people makes less sense to me. I'm probably one of the most politically
incorrect people you will ever meet btw :-)
Of course you are, you're Scottish, just like me!
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:106rdjmto9rva19@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > news:GMgbc.4353$O%5.3358@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> > > No offense, Dave. I'm not American Indian, although I find what
> > > extremely little I know of them fascinating. Actually, I think using
> > > tribal names for certain things should be fine, even in this day of
> > > political correct behavior.
> > >
> > > On a related note:
> > >
> > > Here in the states the YMCA has a program that used to be called
Indian
> > > Guides and Indian Princesses. During the 3 year period that my
daughter
> > > and I were in the Indian Princesses, the YMCA, under pressure was
forced
> > > to drop the name and they are now called Y Princesses. Idiotic,
really.
> > > I mean why would you want your race associated with a wholesome
program
> > > like that?
> > >
> >
> > I'm with you on that one. I think Indian Guides is a great name for a
> kid's
> > group. It honors Indians as explorers and innovators that spend a life
> time
> > making stuff from essentially nothing at all. "Nothing", of course, is
> from
> > the perspective of protected lives that have a universe that revolves
> around
> > the suburbs where everything has to come from a box. Indian Guides
teaches
> > kids that stuff comes from outside the box, or from where there are no
> > boxes.
> >
> > I think we should have school mascots named Warriors and Aztecs as well.
> > These are proud people with a strong heritage. It should be an honor
that
> a
> > school would want to emulate a warrior. It should not be considered a
> "dis"
> > to have your ancestors associated with school sports. On second thought,
> if
> > it is a dis then maybe we don't want to associate our kids with your
> > ancestors anyway, in which case we don't need to be using your name and
> > image as a mascot.
> >
> > Now I am all screwed up. I don't know if I am offended that we use the
> > mascot in an inapporpriate way, or that we use the mascot for all these
> > years. If we use it all these years as a sign of strength, and it turns
> out
> > that it upsets weaklings and crybabies, then we have used it
> > inappropriately. Crap.
> >
> >
>
>
#90
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
Good! This PC stuff is off the charts!
Dave Milne wrote:
> Now that I can understand - people called after people.
> Cars called after people makes less sense to me. I'm probably one of the
> most politically incorrect people you will ever meet btw :-)
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
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01 XJ Sport
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Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
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Dave Milne wrote:
> Now that I can understand - people called after people.
> Cars called after people makes less sense to me. I'm probably one of the
> most politically incorrect people you will ever meet btw :-)
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
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