Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
04-02-2004, 03:03 PM
#71
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Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
The Cherokees **** me off, my wife's one quarter, we were supposed
to get money in the sixties from their Oklahoma oil.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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CRWLR wrote:
>
> Well no, because it would be drunk all the time. Sheesh, how obvious is
> that?
to get money in the sixties from their Oklahoma oil.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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CRWLR wrote:
>
> Well no, because it would be drunk all the time. Sheesh, how obvious is
> that?
04-02-2004, 03:03 PM
#72
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Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
The Cherokees **** me off, my wife's one quarter, we were supposed
to get money in the sixties from their Oklahoma oil.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
CRWLR wrote:
>
> Well no, because it would be drunk all the time. Sheesh, how obvious is
> that?
to get money in the sixties from their Oklahoma oil.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
CRWLR wrote:
>
> Well no, because it would be drunk all the time. Sheesh, how obvious is
> that?
04-02-2004, 03:03 PM
#73
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Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
The Cherokees **** me off, my wife's one quarter, we were supposed
to get money in the sixties from their Oklahoma oil.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
CRWLR wrote:
>
> Well no, because it would be drunk all the time. Sheesh, how obvious is
> that?
to get money in the sixties from their Oklahoma oil.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
CRWLR wrote:
>
> Well no, because it would be drunk all the time. Sheesh, how obvious is
> that?
04-02-2004, 03:13 PM
#74
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Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
Now that I can understand - people called after people.
Cars called after people makes less sense to me. I'm probably one of the
most politically incorrect people you will ever meet btw :-)
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:GMgbc.4353$O%5.3358@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> > No offense, Dave. I'm not American Indian, although I find what
> > extremely little I know of them fascinating. Actually, I think using
> > tribal names for certain things should be fine, even in this day of
> > political correct behavior.
> >
> > On a related note:
> >
> > Here in the states the YMCA has a program that used to be called Indian
> > Guides and Indian Princesses. During the 3 year period that my daughter
> > and I were in the Indian Princesses, the YMCA, under pressure was forced
> > to drop the name and they are now called Y Princesses. Idiotic, really.
> > I mean why would you want your race associated with a wholesome program
> > like that?
> >
>
> I'm with you on that one. I think Indian Guides is a great name for a
kid's
> group. It honors Indians as explorers and innovators that spend a life
time
> making stuff from essentially nothing at all. "Nothing", of course, is
from
> the perspective of protected lives that have a universe that revolves
around
> the suburbs where everything has to come from a box. Indian Guides teaches
> kids that stuff comes from outside the box, or from where there are no
> boxes.
>
> I think we should have school mascots named Warriors and Aztecs as well.
> These are proud people with a strong heritage. It should be an honor that
a
> school would want to emulate a warrior. It should not be considered a
"dis"
> to have your ancestors associated with school sports. On second thought,
if
> it is a dis then maybe we don't want to associate our kids with your
> ancestors anyway, in which case we don't need to be using your name and
> image as a mascot.
>
> Now I am all screwed up. I don't know if I am offended that we use the
> mascot in an inapporpriate way, or that we use the mascot for all these
> years. If we use it all these years as a sign of strength, and it turns
out
> that it upsets weaklings and crybabies, then we have used it
> inappropriately. Crap.
>
>
Cars called after people makes less sense to me. I'm probably one of the
most politically incorrect people you will ever meet btw :-)
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:106rdjmto9rva19@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:GMgbc.4353$O%5.3358@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> > No offense, Dave. I'm not American Indian, although I find what
> > extremely little I know of them fascinating. Actually, I think using
> > tribal names for certain things should be fine, even in this day of
> > political correct behavior.
> >
> > On a related note:
> >
> > Here in the states the YMCA has a program that used to be called Indian
> > Guides and Indian Princesses. During the 3 year period that my daughter
> > and I were in the Indian Princesses, the YMCA, under pressure was forced
> > to drop the name and they are now called Y Princesses. Idiotic, really.
> > I mean why would you want your race associated with a wholesome program
> > like that?
> >
>
> I'm with you on that one. I think Indian Guides is a great name for a
kid's
> group. It honors Indians as explorers and innovators that spend a life
time
> making stuff from essentially nothing at all. "Nothing", of course, is
from
> the perspective of protected lives that have a universe that revolves
around
> the suburbs where everything has to come from a box. Indian Guides teaches
> kids that stuff comes from outside the box, or from where there are no
> boxes.
>
> I think we should have school mascots named Warriors and Aztecs as well.
> These are proud people with a strong heritage. It should be an honor that
a
> school would want to emulate a warrior. It should not be considered a
"dis"
> to have your ancestors associated with school sports. On second thought,
if
> it is a dis then maybe we don't want to associate our kids with your
> ancestors anyway, in which case we don't need to be using your name and
> image as a mascot.
>
> Now I am all screwed up. I don't know if I am offended that we use the
> mascot in an inapporpriate way, or that we use the mascot for all these
> years. If we use it all these years as a sign of strength, and it turns
out
> that it upsets weaklings and crybabies, then we have used it
> inappropriately. Crap.
>
>
04-02-2004, 03:13 PM
#75
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Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
Now that I can understand - people called after people.
Cars called after people makes less sense to me. I'm probably one of the
most politically incorrect people you will ever meet btw :-)
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:106rdjmto9rva19@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:GMgbc.4353$O%5.3358@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> > No offense, Dave. I'm not American Indian, although I find what
> > extremely little I know of them fascinating. Actually, I think using
> > tribal names for certain things should be fine, even in this day of
> > political correct behavior.
> >
> > On a related note:
> >
> > Here in the states the YMCA has a program that used to be called Indian
> > Guides and Indian Princesses. During the 3 year period that my daughter
> > and I were in the Indian Princesses, the YMCA, under pressure was forced
> > to drop the name and they are now called Y Princesses. Idiotic, really.
> > I mean why would you want your race associated with a wholesome program
> > like that?
> >
>
> I'm with you on that one. I think Indian Guides is a great name for a
kid's
> group. It honors Indians as explorers and innovators that spend a life
time
> making stuff from essentially nothing at all. "Nothing", of course, is
from
> the perspective of protected lives that have a universe that revolves
around
> the suburbs where everything has to come from a box. Indian Guides teaches
> kids that stuff comes from outside the box, or from where there are no
> boxes.
>
> I think we should have school mascots named Warriors and Aztecs as well.
> These are proud people with a strong heritage. It should be an honor that
a
> school would want to emulate a warrior. It should not be considered a
"dis"
> to have your ancestors associated with school sports. On second thought,
if
> it is a dis then maybe we don't want to associate our kids with your
> ancestors anyway, in which case we don't need to be using your name and
> image as a mascot.
>
> Now I am all screwed up. I don't know if I am offended that we use the
> mascot in an inapporpriate way, or that we use the mascot for all these
> years. If we use it all these years as a sign of strength, and it turns
out
> that it upsets weaklings and crybabies, then we have used it
> inappropriately. Crap.
>
>
Cars called after people makes less sense to me. I'm probably one of the
most politically incorrect people you will ever meet btw :-)
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:106rdjmto9rva19@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:GMgbc.4353$O%5.3358@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> > No offense, Dave. I'm not American Indian, although I find what
> > extremely little I know of them fascinating. Actually, I think using
> > tribal names for certain things should be fine, even in this day of
> > political correct behavior.
> >
> > On a related note:
> >
> > Here in the states the YMCA has a program that used to be called Indian
> > Guides and Indian Princesses. During the 3 year period that my daughter
> > and I were in the Indian Princesses, the YMCA, under pressure was forced
> > to drop the name and they are now called Y Princesses. Idiotic, really.
> > I mean why would you want your race associated with a wholesome program
> > like that?
> >
>
> I'm with you on that one. I think Indian Guides is a great name for a
kid's
> group. It honors Indians as explorers and innovators that spend a life
time
> making stuff from essentially nothing at all. "Nothing", of course, is
from
> the perspective of protected lives that have a universe that revolves
around
> the suburbs where everything has to come from a box. Indian Guides teaches
> kids that stuff comes from outside the box, or from where there are no
> boxes.
>
> I think we should have school mascots named Warriors and Aztecs as well.
> These are proud people with a strong heritage. It should be an honor that
a
> school would want to emulate a warrior. It should not be considered a
"dis"
> to have your ancestors associated with school sports. On second thought,
if
> it is a dis then maybe we don't want to associate our kids with your
> ancestors anyway, in which case we don't need to be using your name and
> image as a mascot.
>
> Now I am all screwed up. I don't know if I am offended that we use the
> mascot in an inapporpriate way, or that we use the mascot for all these
> years. If we use it all these years as a sign of strength, and it turns
out
> that it upsets weaklings and crybabies, then we have used it
> inappropriately. Crap.
>
>
04-02-2004, 03:13 PM
#76
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Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
Now that I can understand - people called after people.
Cars called after people makes less sense to me. I'm probably one of the
most politically incorrect people you will ever meet btw :-)
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:106rdjmto9rva19@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:GMgbc.4353$O%5.3358@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> > No offense, Dave. I'm not American Indian, although I find what
> > extremely little I know of them fascinating. Actually, I think using
> > tribal names for certain things should be fine, even in this day of
> > political correct behavior.
> >
> > On a related note:
> >
> > Here in the states the YMCA has a program that used to be called Indian
> > Guides and Indian Princesses. During the 3 year period that my daughter
> > and I were in the Indian Princesses, the YMCA, under pressure was forced
> > to drop the name and they are now called Y Princesses. Idiotic, really.
> > I mean why would you want your race associated with a wholesome program
> > like that?
> >
>
> I'm with you on that one. I think Indian Guides is a great name for a
kid's
> group. It honors Indians as explorers and innovators that spend a life
time
> making stuff from essentially nothing at all. "Nothing", of course, is
from
> the perspective of protected lives that have a universe that revolves
around
> the suburbs where everything has to come from a box. Indian Guides teaches
> kids that stuff comes from outside the box, or from where there are no
> boxes.
>
> I think we should have school mascots named Warriors and Aztecs as well.
> These are proud people with a strong heritage. It should be an honor that
a
> school would want to emulate a warrior. It should not be considered a
"dis"
> to have your ancestors associated with school sports. On second thought,
if
> it is a dis then maybe we don't want to associate our kids with your
> ancestors anyway, in which case we don't need to be using your name and
> image as a mascot.
>
> Now I am all screwed up. I don't know if I am offended that we use the
> mascot in an inapporpriate way, or that we use the mascot for all these
> years. If we use it all these years as a sign of strength, and it turns
out
> that it upsets weaklings and crybabies, then we have used it
> inappropriately. Crap.
>
>
Cars called after people makes less sense to me. I'm probably one of the
most politically incorrect people you will ever meet btw :-)
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:106rdjmto9rva19@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:GMgbc.4353$O%5.3358@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> > No offense, Dave. I'm not American Indian, although I find what
> > extremely little I know of them fascinating. Actually, I think using
> > tribal names for certain things should be fine, even in this day of
> > political correct behavior.
> >
> > On a related note:
> >
> > Here in the states the YMCA has a program that used to be called Indian
> > Guides and Indian Princesses. During the 3 year period that my daughter
> > and I were in the Indian Princesses, the YMCA, under pressure was forced
> > to drop the name and they are now called Y Princesses. Idiotic, really.
> > I mean why would you want your race associated with a wholesome program
> > like that?
> >
>
> I'm with you on that one. I think Indian Guides is a great name for a
kid's
> group. It honors Indians as explorers and innovators that spend a life
time
> making stuff from essentially nothing at all. "Nothing", of course, is
from
> the perspective of protected lives that have a universe that revolves
around
> the suburbs where everything has to come from a box. Indian Guides teaches
> kids that stuff comes from outside the box, or from where there are no
> boxes.
>
> I think we should have school mascots named Warriors and Aztecs as well.
> These are proud people with a strong heritage. It should be an honor that
a
> school would want to emulate a warrior. It should not be considered a
"dis"
> to have your ancestors associated with school sports. On second thought,
if
> it is a dis then maybe we don't want to associate our kids with your
> ancestors anyway, in which case we don't need to be using your name and
> image as a mascot.
>
> Now I am all screwed up. I don't know if I am offended that we use the
> mascot in an inapporpriate way, or that we use the mascot for all these
> years. If we use it all these years as a sign of strength, and it turns
out
> that it upsets weaklings and crybabies, then we have used it
> inappropriately. Crap.
>
>
04-02-2004, 03:13 PM
#77
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Posts: n/a
Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
Now that I can understand - people called after people.
Cars called after people makes less sense to me. I'm probably one of the
most politically incorrect people you will ever meet btw :-)
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:106rdjmto9rva19@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:GMgbc.4353$O%5.3358@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> > No offense, Dave. I'm not American Indian, although I find what
> > extremely little I know of them fascinating. Actually, I think using
> > tribal names for certain things should be fine, even in this day of
> > political correct behavior.
> >
> > On a related note:
> >
> > Here in the states the YMCA has a program that used to be called Indian
> > Guides and Indian Princesses. During the 3 year period that my daughter
> > and I were in the Indian Princesses, the YMCA, under pressure was forced
> > to drop the name and they are now called Y Princesses. Idiotic, really.
> > I mean why would you want your race associated with a wholesome program
> > like that?
> >
>
> I'm with you on that one. I think Indian Guides is a great name for a
kid's
> group. It honors Indians as explorers and innovators that spend a life
time
> making stuff from essentially nothing at all. "Nothing", of course, is
from
> the perspective of protected lives that have a universe that revolves
around
> the suburbs where everything has to come from a box. Indian Guides teaches
> kids that stuff comes from outside the box, or from where there are no
> boxes.
>
> I think we should have school mascots named Warriors and Aztecs as well.
> These are proud people with a strong heritage. It should be an honor that
a
> school would want to emulate a warrior. It should not be considered a
"dis"
> to have your ancestors associated with school sports. On second thought,
if
> it is a dis then maybe we don't want to associate our kids with your
> ancestors anyway, in which case we don't need to be using your name and
> image as a mascot.
>
> Now I am all screwed up. I don't know if I am offended that we use the
> mascot in an inapporpriate way, or that we use the mascot for all these
> years. If we use it all these years as a sign of strength, and it turns
out
> that it upsets weaklings and crybabies, then we have used it
> inappropriately. Crap.
>
>
Cars called after people makes less sense to me. I'm probably one of the
most politically incorrect people you will ever meet btw :-)
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:106rdjmto9rva19@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:GMgbc.4353$O%5.3358@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> > No offense, Dave. I'm not American Indian, although I find what
> > extremely little I know of them fascinating. Actually, I think using
> > tribal names for certain things should be fine, even in this day of
> > political correct behavior.
> >
> > On a related note:
> >
> > Here in the states the YMCA has a program that used to be called Indian
> > Guides and Indian Princesses. During the 3 year period that my daughter
> > and I were in the Indian Princesses, the YMCA, under pressure was forced
> > to drop the name and they are now called Y Princesses. Idiotic, really.
> > I mean why would you want your race associated with a wholesome program
> > like that?
> >
>
> I'm with you on that one. I think Indian Guides is a great name for a
kid's
> group. It honors Indians as explorers and innovators that spend a life
time
> making stuff from essentially nothing at all. "Nothing", of course, is
from
> the perspective of protected lives that have a universe that revolves
around
> the suburbs where everything has to come from a box. Indian Guides teaches
> kids that stuff comes from outside the box, or from where there are no
> boxes.
>
> I think we should have school mascots named Warriors and Aztecs as well.
> These are proud people with a strong heritage. It should be an honor that
a
> school would want to emulate a warrior. It should not be considered a
"dis"
> to have your ancestors associated with school sports. On second thought,
if
> it is a dis then maybe we don't want to associate our kids with your
> ancestors anyway, in which case we don't need to be using your name and
> image as a mascot.
>
> Now I am all screwed up. I don't know if I am offended that we use the
> mascot in an inapporpriate way, or that we use the mascot for all these
> years. If we use it all these years as a sign of strength, and it turns
out
> that it upsets weaklings and crybabies, then we have used it
> inappropriately. Crap.
>
>
04-02-2004, 03:15 PM
#78
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Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:Hbgbc.861$Qe5.11878583@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > Hmm, that post wasn't well considered really. Sorry if it caused
offence.
> > I do think that calling cars after tribes is rather silly. I mean, would
> you
> > buy
> > a TJ Scot ?
> >
> > Dave
> >
>
> Well no, because it would be drunk all the time. Sheesh, how obvious is
> that?
no comment, you caught me with a 16 year old Lagavulin in my hand ...
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
news:106rcuo3e5vlsa3@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:Hbgbc.861$Qe5.11878583@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > Hmm, that post wasn't well considered really. Sorry if it caused
offence.
> > I do think that calling cars after tribes is rather silly. I mean, would
> you
> > buy
> > a TJ Scot ?
> >
> > Dave
> >
>
> Well no, because it would be drunk all the time. Sheesh, how obvious is
> that?
no comment, you caught me with a 16 year old Lagavulin in my hand ...
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
04-02-2004, 03:15 PM
#79
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Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:Hbgbc.861$Qe5.11878583@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > Hmm, that post wasn't well considered really. Sorry if it caused
offence.
> > I do think that calling cars after tribes is rather silly. I mean, would
> you
> > buy
> > a TJ Scot ?
> >
> > Dave
> >
>
> Well no, because it would be drunk all the time. Sheesh, how obvious is
> that?
no comment, you caught me with a 16 year old Lagavulin in my hand ...
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
news:106rcuo3e5vlsa3@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:Hbgbc.861$Qe5.11878583@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > Hmm, that post wasn't well considered really. Sorry if it caused
offence.
> > I do think that calling cars after tribes is rather silly. I mean, would
> you
> > buy
> > a TJ Scot ?
> >
> > Dave
> >
>
> Well no, because it would be drunk all the time. Sheesh, how obvious is
> that?
no comment, you caught me with a 16 year old Lagavulin in my hand ...
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
04-02-2004, 03:15 PM
#80
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Re: Wrangler Unlimited = very dumb name (if nothing else)
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:106rcuo3e5vlsa3@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:Hbgbc.861$Qe5.11878583@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > Hmm, that post wasn't well considered really. Sorry if it caused
offence.
> > I do think that calling cars after tribes is rather silly. I mean, would
> you
> > buy
> > a TJ Scot ?
> >
> > Dave
> >
>
> Well no, because it would be drunk all the time. Sheesh, how obvious is
> that?
no comment, you caught me with a 16 year old Lagavulin in my hand ...
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
news:106rcuo3e5vlsa3@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:Hbgbc.861$Qe5.11878583@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > Hmm, that post wasn't well considered really. Sorry if it caused
offence.
> > I do think that calling cars after tribes is rather silly. I mean, would
> you
> > buy
> > a TJ Scot ?
> >
> > Dave
> >
>
> Well no, because it would be drunk all the time. Sheesh, how obvious is
> that?
no comment, you caught me with a 16 year old Lagavulin in my hand ...
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ